100 US Mayors Sign Pledge To Defend Net Neutrality Against Crooked ISPs (gizmodo.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Gizmodo: More than 100 U.S. mayors have signed a pledge to hold internet service providers accountable for net neutrality violations, despite the FCC's vote to repeal the regulations late last year. The pledge, initiated by Mayors Bill de Blasio of New York City, Steve Adler of Austin, and Ted Wheeler of Portland, promises that cities will refuse to do business with ISPs that violate net neutrality standards. The mayors, brought together by a coalition of open internet advocates, including Free Press, Demand Progress, and Daily Kos, have accused FCC Chairman Ajit Pai of caving to corporate interests by giving companies such as AT&T and Verizon the power to "block, throttle and slow access to sites and services at will." A complete list of the cities taking the pledge is available on the campaign's website. At time of writing, nearly 80,000 letters have been sent urging mayors across the country to participate.
Has pledged to open up their jurisdiction to unlimited local competition. They'll grant the franchises and then "hold them accountable" instead of giving the people a chance to vote with their feet and easily switch to a competitor.
More political grandstanding. DeBlasio and the others know the FCC regulations and Federal law in general supersedes any and all State and local laws. As soon as some local or State court rules against some ISP on local/State "NN" laws or regs, the first Federal court they appeal it to will dismiss it rule the laws/regs in question as not within State or local powers.
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Progressivism (aka US 'Liberalism'): Ideas so good they need a police/surveillance-state to enforce.
So I take it itâ(TM)s not ok to ban conservatives anymore? Great!
The ISPs will just set up partner relationship with local companies that will preferred for govt bussiness, such as the carve outs for supporting local, small, minority or women owned bussness many cogt have. Those shell companies will not violate net neutrality but their only customers will be the local govt. They will only have one peer and that will be verizon or whomever.
problem soved for ISP, and govt' gets to claim success too.
Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
Honestly telecomm infrastructure is a near textbook ideal example of a "natural monopoly", i.e., something where it is totally essential to have unfettered access for all and benefits most from having a single standard implementation.
If "the people" owned all the pipes and they were used in a fair manner to provide service to all, then we could sidestep all these concerns. The gov't could charge for access based on usage to everyone to make it self-supporting.
and NOBODY obeys it, not even the armed forces, then all it is going to be is a handfull of crony fascist politicians in washington trying to brow beat the nation with paperwork,
this needs to happen more often and to more unjust laws and policies the federal government impose on the nation
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What happens if the only ISP in town is one of the duopoly which violates the net neutrality pledge? Will city government just go completely dark and off the internet? No, that probably won't happen. So this is just symbolic, at best. At worst, it's a waste of time and the mayors should probably go back to doing real work to help better their constituents.
Well here is the thing. By ending NN, what is happening is exactly what I though would happen. By ending a relatively simple and uniform set of rules. That can be applied across the country, it we now have a set of rules and laws all slightly different and ever changing, across different states, and communities in the states. In essence making it difficult and expensive to follow a policy, and be compliment in all customer bases.
So we have 100 mayors, so they are two cities/towns for each state (on average) that are demanding different sets of rules. If you are running an ISP, you want to run your organization the same across all your customers. An ISP will often cover multiple towns, My ISP covers nearly a 50 mile radius, spanning dozens of towns. Having that one town who plays by a different set of rules is tough, if they are multiple towns demanding NN they may want a slightly different version of what they think NN is.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
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You have the best government that money can buy.
That a straw man argument.... pure posturing for political points.
* Being net neutrally is dead, there are no laws, rules or regulations that bind any ISP to any standard. Thus there's no rule to enforce or law broken. Municipalities can not enforce non-existent regulations.
* So they "promise" not do business with ISP's who violate non existent standards... who's left to do business with? nobody. every single ISP does it. All the big ones anyway, and they are ultimately the ones who supply all up stream connectivity. This stupid "municipal broadband" nonsense fails to understand where the data comes from. Municipalities don't just pull it from the air, it comes from an upstream ISP, that ultimately is one of the cabal who is blocking, throttling, and deprioritizing data to businesses and end accounts that are not part of their pay to play group.
* Most ISP cross state lines which is out of the jurisdiction and thus regulation of any municipality. Interstate commerce by law is regulated at the Federal lever.
Lastly - Funny how the author wrote "Pai caved to corporate interests"... Pai was a lawyer and lobbyist for the communications cabal prior to his appointment by Humpty-Trumpty. This was NOT a 'cave', it was THE GOAL - deliberate and premeditated. .
these 2 faced Mayors and City Councils. These are the same individuals who sold monopoly rights to the same companies for campaign contributions.
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Now they distract and confuse everything, saying oh we will fight for you, Right!
How do you know you should not trust a government bureaucrat or politician? Their lips are moving.
Just my 2 cents
Just like you have the best healthcare system that money can buy. If only more Americans could afford it!
Debate is a form of harassment. Do not question my truth.
Such an ISP would stand to lose its franchise with the city come renewal time, and the city would instead switch to a competitor that agrees to refrain from abusive routing.
At least we have the option of buying, unlike a certain set of parents in the UK.
There was nothing worth buying, nobody could offer any effective treatment or cure.
It's one thing to pull on your jackboots and goosestep in front of providing care because MUH MATH. It's another thing entirely to forbid people from seeking care outside your fucked up little shithole of a country.
It's one thing to want the best for your children, it's another thing to go into debt providing useless treatment that only prolongs an agonizing death, and then being unable to pay for it, induce the rest of us to compensate those individuals who took advantage of you by providing an ineffective service that is simply exploiting your own naivete.
Frankly, the Vatican should be billed for the excess costs and burden to the UK legal system that their stunt imposed.
It's amazing, the excuses people can find for slavery.
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If you aren't restricted by government zoning regulations or property owners association rules, you can put up a solar array or a windmill. Or a diesel generator.
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Penalize bandwidth hogs for hogging bandwidth, not for accessing servers that happen not to have signed a zero-rating agreement with a particular ISP, and not for using dispreferred application protocols. An all-encompassing monthly cap that covers all traffic, as commonly implemented by satellite ISPs, is net neutral.
The pledge really bears commenting on, point by point:
> Net Neutrality
> I will support legislation and measures that ensure the protection of net neutrality principles and that remove any registration or other restrictive
> requirements on the provisioning of Internet content or services.
Now, this is a fine-sounding statement, and it's something that even the top execs at the biggest ISPs could support sincerely, without so much as a twinge of conscience, or concern for the next stockholder's meeting. It is also meaningless without a concrete definition. The FCC attempt in 2015 to define net neutrality was less about ensuring competition and free access than entrenching monopolies, mediating corporate turf wars, advancing censorship, and establishing a new bureaucracy for the new era upon us wherein everything, including POTS, is digital. If that's really what anyone wants, get Congress to have the balls to make it law instead of passing the buck. It could, of course, be that this pledge is intended to filter up to that level and provide our selfless, noble legislators with the cover they need to regulate content, ie. speech, or to import concepts like "social credit" to promote political hygiene, but it still doesn't define anything in any way that anyone could be held to.
> Ethical Campaign Donations
> I will never accept campaign contributions from any company or individual that has lobbied for the removal of net neutrality regulations or for
> restrictions on municipalities to create broadband networks.
Oh, this is choice. Conflating ethics with politics. Why not add "I will never pander to a constituency" while you're at it. By the way, do you really think Big Telecom, Big Cable, or Big Content, were any of them actually AGAINST "Net Neutrality". Well, think again. At most, their bases are covered both ways.
> Municipal Broadband
> I will support legislation and measures to create publicly-owned and managed municipal fiber networks, built to serve the residents and businesses
> of my community.
Why, who could be against serving residents and businesses of the community? That is the main excuse...er, reason, for our municipal charter, to begin with. Why, we could even support legislation and measures to eventually ensure that all housing and all food production is publicly owned and managed too, while we're at it.
Look, if you really want socialism, please just do a Bernie and come out and say it. On the other hand, you want the city to be a business, why not be honest, issue voting shares, and be done with the pretense of government as opposed to management of a corporate monopoly. It might be easier to follow the money at least, and maybe get dividends from all the tax-farming.
> Government Transparency
> I will support legislation and measures that promote the availability of government data to residents, as well as the usage of open formats and open
> standards in government.
This sounds good, and it should be common sense, but realize that the same manager or purchasing agent that owes his or her job to industry trade councils behind the municipal government associations and suchlike that provide template ordinances for such things, recommended bidding practices, IT guidance, etc. is not particularly likely to go beyond them, and especially not against them, if it impedes getting their job done, whatever the high-sounding, but essentially meaningless platitudes that are espoused. And like all politicians, mayors and council members are past masters at saying one thing but doing another.
Or is this a setup for the template providers to circulate an official approved policy on this matter, that otherwise might be a hard sell, like the model zoning ordinances that expand city rights on private property? I really do wonder.
> Open Access To Knowledge
> I will advocate for freedom of communication and access to knowledge, and I will support initiatives to ensure that publicl