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Nvidia Shuts Down Its GeForce Partner Program, Citing Misinformation (theregister.co.uk)

In a blog post on Friday, Nvidia announced it is "pulling the plug" on the GeForce Partner Program (GPP) due to the company's unwillingness to combat "rumors" and "mistruths" about the platform. The GPP has only been active for a couple of months. It was launched as a way for gamers to know exactly what they're buying when shopping for a new gaming PC. "With this program, partners would provide full transparency regarding the installed hardware and software in their products," reports Digital Trends. From the report: Shortly after the launch, unnamed sources from add-in card and desktop/laptop manufacturers came forward to reveal that the program will likely hurt consumer choice. Even more, they worried that some of the agreement language may actually be illegal while the program itself could disrupt the current business they have with AMD and Intel. They also revealed one major requirement: The resulting product sports the label "[gaming brand] Aligned Exclusively with GeForce." As an example, if Asus wanted to add its Republic of Gamers (RoG) line to Nvidia's program, it wouldn't be allowed to sell RoG products with AMD-based graphics. Of course, manufacturers can choose whether or not to join Nvidia's program, but membership supposedly had its "perks" including access to early technology, sales rebate programs, game bundling, and more.

According to Nvidia, all it asked of its partners was to "brand their products in a way that would be crystal clear." The company says it didn't want "substitute GPUs hidden behind a pile of techno-jargon." Specifications for desktops and laptops tend to list their graphics components and PC gamers are generally intelligent shoppers that don't need any clarification. Regardless, Nvidia is pulling the controversial program because the "rumors, conjecture, and mistruths go far beyond" the program's intent.

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  1. How you know Nvidia is lying by mwvdlee · · Score: 4, Funny

    PC gamers are generally intelligent shoppers that don't need any clarification

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    1. Re:How you know Nvidia is lying by thegarbz · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Nvidia didn't say that. Digitaltrends did.

      Mind you it doesn't make the program any less questionable, especially if the techno jargon you're hiding is the performance features.

      Hey come buy the new Ford Mustang by Ford, because Ford Ford. It has some seats, and all the horsepowers. It has the things you expect, supports all kinds of drivers, and comes in red and black, wheels included in price.
      God I miss car analogies.

    2. Re:How you know Nvidia is lying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't find a single Nvidia graphics card from the 9xx and 1xxx series that doesn't have "Geforce" in the product name. The same goes for Radeon with 4xx & 5xx & Vega AMD cards. I can't believe there even exists graphics card buyers that dim, who will mistakenly pick the wrong one.

    3. Re:How you know Nvidia is lying by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      lmao, me too cause that was a good one.

    4. Re: How you know Nvidia is lying by liefer · · Score: 1

      My experience with gamers in overwatch and dota suggests otherwise :p

    5. Re:How you know Nvidia is lying by Type44Q · · Score: 4, Funny

      God I miss car analogies.

      Relied on those for years but for having to explain the necessity of 'Windows Reinstallations' to my clients, my mainstay was the following:

      Microsoft products are toilet paper grade... which is perfectly fine for some tasks... but when your toilet paper gets dirty, do you try to scrub out the shit-stains? No; you get a fresh roll.

    6. Re:How you know Nvidia is lying by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Nice catch!

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    7. Re:How you know Nvidia is lying by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      but when your toilet paper gets dirty, do you try to scrub out the shit-stains? No; you get a fresh roll.

      Careful there's been a huge resurgence in reusable diapers as of late :)

    8. Re:How you know Nvidia is lying by Excelcia · · Score: 1

      What's the difference between a car marketing phrase writer and a computer marketing phrase writer? The car marketing phrase write knows when he's lying.

    9. Re:How you know Nvidia is lying by yorgasor · · Score: 1

      but when your toilet paper gets dirty, do you try to scrub out the shit-stains? No; you get a fresh roll.

      Careful there's been a huge resurgence in reusable diapers as of late :)

      Make sure you google "family cloth", you'll be glad you did :)

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    10. Re:How you know Nvidia is lying by mwvdlee · · Score: 1

      They're marketeers; they are ALWAYS lying.
      The computer marketeer is just lying to himself as well.

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    11. Re:How you know Nvidia is lying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      but when your toilet paper gets dirty, do you try to scrub out the shit-stains? No; you get a fresh roll.

      Careful there's been a huge resurgence in reusable diapers as of late :)

      Make sure you google "family cloth", you'll be glad you did :)

      Google poop-knife.

  2. Nvidia is a Lie algebra by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A Lie algebra is a vector space together with a non-associative, alternating bilinear map , called the Lie bracket, satisfying the Jacobi identity.

    1. Re:Nvidia is a Lie algebra by bistromath007 · · Score: 1

      "Hmm. How can I improve this clever and understated mathematical pun? Oh, I know, I'll apply the subtlety of a political cartoon where a big bag of money is labelled 'money' to it!"

    2. Re:Nvidia is a Lie algebra by TheRealQuestor · · Score: 2

      Not to be confused with a Trump algebra, which also generally involves lies.

      And you had to bring politics into a conversation/thread that had nothing, and I mean NOTHING to with it. WHY? Does it somehow make you feel better? I guess I am just getting old because it makes no sense to me what so ever why peeps here do this. It's not funny, It doesn't make one look or sound smarter. Adds NOTHING to the conversation. To me it sounds like this. We love cars, cars are great. cars can go fast. Trump. The yellow ones are better.

    3. Re: Nvidia is a Lie algebra by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks Obama!

    4. Re:Nvidia is a Lie algebra by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No free ride scum. When SJW scum open their slut-bitch mouth uninvited they get a smashface slam breaking their teeth. Kinda fun too breaking their neekaps when they are down and groveling. Feel the bleed Bosco? Kinda like watching pink-Bernie have a heart attack! Anything hurt SJW scum ?

    5. Re: Nvidia is a Lie algebra by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is what we evolved into? We should have never left the trees!

    6. Re:Nvidia is a Lie algebra by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's called an "analogy". Kind of like NVidia spec sheets, it's not a perfect match and may not even apply in any meaningful way except to give a false impression of reality.

      See, that was another analogy! When will they stop coming?

    7. Re: Nvidia is a Lie algebra by Alypius · · Score: 1

      "...even the trees had been a bad move, and that no-one should ever have left the oceans." --Douglas Adams

    8. Re:Nvidia is a Lie algebra by TheRealQuestor · · Score: 0

      Look I think Trump is a moron and is VERY much deserving of most of the shit he gets BUT is a thread about NVidia the place to discuss it. No.No it is not. It's just a waste of everyone's time and energy and both are better spent on actually doing something productive. The only thing worse than all this off topic BS is allowing SJWs to spout venom and hate. THEY are hurting humanity as a whole and are as annoying as vegans. But at least many vegans actually are doing something by doing something with their belief systems instead of sitting in the basement bitching on the internet about how the world is so unfair.

    9. Re:Nvidia is a Lie algebra by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Both do it. Neither has any moral ground whatsoever.

      captcha: sedition - go figure

    10. Re:Nvidia is a Lie algebra by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry Nazi faggot, when we string you bitches up we're going to set fire to your corpses just to make sure your faggot genes stop right there. You bring it on yourselves, just like Trump.

    11. Re: Nvidia is a Lie algebra by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Interesting. The guy whining about how someone else whines.

    12. Re: Nvidia is a Lie algebra by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Its called ANAL ORGY

  3. are you serious? by slashmydots · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I heard the entire document was leaked absolutely word for word verbatim. But no, guys, it's misinformation and misinterpretations. I am not misinformed about bullying your competition out of top product line names. That is what that was, the end.

    1. Re:are you serious? by sheramil · · Score: 2

      I heard the entire document was leaked absolutely word for word verbatim.

      Who did you hear that from?

    2. Re:are you serious? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Nice try Nvidia.

    3. Re:are you serious? by Mashiki · · Score: 0

      https://www.hardocp.com/news/2... read the other links. Nvidia has also apparently blacklisted HardOCP for posting all of this information to the public.

      Seriously, every single gamer out there should look hard at what nvidia did, say "fuck you" buy a AMD card on their next upgrade/new rig, send them a picture and tell them that this is the result of the GPP program.

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    4. Re: are you serious? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. Now, this isn't a particularly interesting claim, but "Kyle says he saw it" isn't proof of any sort.

    5. Re: are you serious? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kyle has an incredibly solid reputation for telling the truth. I agree in your statement, but Kyle's record is extraordinary.

    6. Re:are you serious? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Everyone should go AMD because Nvidia drivers now come with tons of telemetry. For the slashdot crowd, they should go AMD because Nvidia uses Node/JS to collect this telemetry.

    7. Re:are you serious? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The problem is that amd's drivers just don't work that well except for the few games a particular release was 'optimized' for.

    8. Re: are you serious? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      he also has a rep for being cunty when he doesn't get his way or when someone challenges his assumptions.

    9. Re: are you serious? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Citation needed.

    10. Re: are you serious? by darkain · · Score: 2

      For one example, it literally took six months for AMD to fix a critical crash flaw in their drivers effecting Blizzard's Overwatch. Information is documented by Blizzard staff themselves: https://eu.battle.net/forums/e...

    11. Re:are you serious? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nah, I think I'll stick with nVidia and tell AMD to fuck off until they release hardware and drivers that live up to the hype.

    12. Re: are you serious? by Mashiki · · Score: 0

      People actually play overwatch? The community that progressives claim is so toxic, that blizzard is looking over your shoulder and digging through your social media posts so they can ban you.

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    13. Re: are you serious? by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. Now, this isn't a particularly interesting claim, but "Kyle says he saw it" isn't proof of any sort.

      Did you read the links? Apparently not. Go and do that now, you'll get there eventually kiddo.

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    14. Re:are you serious? by slashmydots · · Score: 1

      Linus Tech Tips and if I recall, Slashdot

  4. Didn't intel try this once? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  5. The Damage is Already Done by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ahhh, so is Nvidia now going to give out refunds for the re-branding costs? Or just sit back and laugh as they got what they wanted without having to give anything in return? Companies made new brands and now Nvidia doesn't have to give them the cherry picked GPUs. Disgusting.

  6. The Damage is Already Done by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now that Nvidia is giving out refunds for the re-branding costs ... wait, that won't ever happen. So now Nvidia is laughing because they don't have to fulfill their end of the deal but get dedicated branding anyway! Disgusting.

  7. Oh, so that was the reason by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There seems to be a big problem with "substitute GPUs hidden behind techno-jargon" these days, whatever that is.

  8. Isn't this what Intel was fined for? by Solandri · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Convincing PC makers like Dell and HP to join a program where they got special access and prices to Intel CPUs, in exchange for an exclusivity contract which prohibited the PC maker from selling AMD computers?

    1. Re:Isn't this what Intel was fined for? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No man, they didn't get special access or prices. Just got special "support".... with happy endings

    2. Re:Isn't this what Intel was fined for? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bing bing ding dong.

  9. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 4, Insightful

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  10. Translation by Gaygirlie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A lot has been said recently about our GeForce Partner Program. The rumors, conjecture and mistruths go far beyond its intent. Rather than battling misinformation, we have decided to cancel the program.

    What they actually meant: "You were all right about the GPP and what we were trying to do with it, we got caught red-handed and it backfired spectacularly, and now we'll just try to sweep it all under the rug as quickly and unceremoniously as possible."

    1. Re:Translation by Cytotoxic · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I actually think Nvidia has a bit of a point here, even if their "program" has some serious problems.

      If I build a brand of graphics cards based on Nvidia chips... let's call it BlazeX... and I spend years building brand loyalty to BlazeX as the fastest cards available, Nvidia is hidden behind that brand. They'd like for people to associate BlazeX only with Nvidia chips, so when the BlazeX Value comes out, it has an Nvidia chipset and not an AMD or Intel chipset. In that scenario, the Nvidia-built reputation is selling AMD and Intel chips. Of course Nvidia finds that annoying.

      This program would also provide Nvidia some room to breath if AMD happened to leapfrog them in one of the chipset cycles and come out with a much faster product. BlazeX would still have the cache of being the fastest and they'd still sell a lot of Nvidia chips while they played catchup.

      Which of course explains why the manufacturers don't want to do things this way. They want people to associate their brand with "the best", not the chipset. That way you will always buy from them, even if they switch to Intel chips at a later date.

    2. Re: Translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Eh, you got it EXACTLY in reverse!
      Card manufacturers had gaming lines using top chips from both manufacturers and spend money promoting them.
      Nvidia came and told them you will have to kick out AMD of the lines YOU paid for to promote, otherwise you might not get a good supply of Nvidia chips.

    3. Re:Translation by Gaygirlie · · Score: 3, Informative

      If I build a brand of graphics cards based on Nvidia chips... let's call it BlazeX... and I spend years building brand loyalty to BlazeX as the fastest cards available, Nvidia is hidden behind that brand. They'd like for people to associate BlazeX only with Nvidia chips, so when the BlazeX Value comes out, it has an Nvidia chipset and not an AMD or Intel chipset. In that scenario, the Nvidia-built reputation is selling AMD and Intel chips.

      But that's not what happened. NVIDIA just came with GPP and said "We want you to move AMD's (and others', if any) offerings under a different brand and dedicate your already-existing, top gaming-brand only for our stuff" -- completely reverse of the scenario you painted! The move was wholly designed to hurt AMD and to let NVIDIA ride on these existing brands' reputations. No one would've batted an eye if NVIDIA asked manufacturers to create a new branding just for NVIDIA's offerings, but that's not what they did.

    4. Re:Translation by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Exactly this. They may also have discovered what kinds of penalties can actually be imposed for doing something like this.

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    5. Re: Translation by Type44Q · · Score: 1

      Indeed. Sounds like Kyle Bennett and HardOCP might as well accept their backtracking as an apology because although they're too arrogant to ever admit they were wrong... they're apparently too stupid to realize that they just did.

    6. Re:Translation by Ramze · · Score: 3, Interesting

      That's not my understanding of what happened. NVIDIA said that NVIDIA products needed their own brand that was separate from the AMD brand. Suppliers did have the option of creating a separate brand just for NVIDIA, but none did. Instead, they kept the gaming brand they already had and made it exclusively for NVIDIA while some created a second brand for AMD.

      For instance, ASUS kept the ROG (Republic of Gamers) for NVIDIA, but created AREZ for AMD for graphics cards. There was nothing in the deal requiring that to happen. They could have kept ROG for AMD and made a separate brand for NVIDIA.

      In practice, though -- everyone knows NVIDIA's cards are better for the most part on the high end, so of course the trusted high-end gaming brand goes to NVIDIA.

      You know ASUS is likely unhappy about having to carry a second brand just for AMD. They have ROG motherboards and graphics cards and would like to just keep ROG for everything high-end and high-quality regardless of what's powering it. They will probably end the AREZ line soon now that the program is cancelled.

    7. Re:Translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I build a brand of graphics cards based on Nvidia chips... let's call it BlazeX... and I spend years building brand loyalty to BlazeX as
      the fastest cards available, Nvidia is hidden behind that brand.

      So? That's generally how it works. When Ford came out with the SHO (super-high-output) version of the Taurus, how many people do you think knew (or cared) that the engines in those vehicles were made by Yamaha? How many Fords have you seen with Yamaha plastered all over them?

      Exactly.

      They'd like for people to associate BlazeX only with Nvidia chips, so when the BlazeX Value comes out, it has an Nvidia chipset and not an AMD or Intel chipset.

      Yep, so the brand equity that BlazeX has built gets transeferred to Nvidia, for free. I'm sure they'd like that a whole lot.

      In that scenario, the Nvidia-built reputation is selling AMD and Intel chips.

      Horseshit. The BlazeX-built reputation for high performance and high quality video cards is selling BlazeX video cards, and they're free to use whatever chipset allows them to keep that reputation. Nvidia tried to to steal the brand equity in those situations for themselves, but they were called on it. Tough nuts.

      BlazeX would still have the cache of being the fastest...

      The word is cachet. When you're telling someone they're wrong, you probably shouldn't commit simple vocabulary errors while doing it. Kinda undermines the whole "I know better than you" thing.

    8. Re:Translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Excellent choice to go AC on that post. Never go full tard without going AC.

    9. Re:Translation by Megol · · Score: 1

      https://www.asus.com/Laptops/R...

      ROG - Republic Of Gamers
      Ryzen 5 or 7 processor
      Radeon RX580

    10. Re:Translation by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      But that's not what happened. NVIDIA just came with GPP and said "We want you to move AMD's (and others', if any) offerings under a different brand and dedicate your already-existing, top gaming-brand only for our stuff" -- completely reverse of the scenario you painted! The move was wholly designed to hurt AMD and to let NVIDIA ride on these existing brands' reputations. No one would've batted an eye if NVIDIA asked manufacturers to create a new branding just for NVIDIA's offerings, but that's not what they did.

      Actually, the move was to hurt Intel. GPP was incidentally targeting AMD, but more specifically, designed to go against Kaby Lake+G chips. These are the Intel CPUs with on-package AMD GPUs instead of Intel GPUs. Intel positions these processors above their "pro" graphics line (so you have basic Intel graphics, Intel Iris Pro graphics, and now Intel+AMD graphics)..

      It was targeted at OEMs specifically - to not produce a laptop or desktop PC with Kaby Lake+G chips. nVidia is worried - OEMs would choose this to simply have a single-source simple graphics solution that's decent. This is especially so for say, Apple, who has yet to forgive nVidia over their premature release back in the Steve Jobs days, but who may be very interested in selling high end MacBook Pros with AMD graphics on chip to save engineering effort.

  11. Nvidia should accept some blame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Its one reason I gave up on PC gaming. Lot of shady graphic card makers calling crappy cards good enough for gaming. Even PC makers try to sell a load of crap about a cheap barely better then Intel card. Frankly I can't believe what is sold out there claiming latest games capable. Kudo's to Nvidia for trying, but all I can say is buyer beware.

    1. Re:Nvidia should accept some blame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, I am sure Nvidia has nothing but the consumers' best interests in mind when they draft corporate policy.

    2. Re:Nvidia should accept some blame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      AMD's cards have gotten surprisingly better over the years. They're actually considered the best choice for Linux gaming. The official drivers are good, but the open source drivers are even better.

      It used to always be the case that no self-respecting Linux user used ATI/AMD cards. You'd buy an NVIDIA because they're the only cards that had any decent driver support. You'd also run the official drivers because nv sucks all the dicks and nouveau is only barely tolerable for non-gaming purposes.

      We truly are living in a backwards, bizzare world right now, aren't we? In less than 10 years, the Linux gaming community has gone from running NVIDIA cards with official drivers to running AMD cards with open source drivers. What the hell did NVIDIA do to slump so far, and so fast?

    3. Re:Nvidia should accept some blame by Immerman · · Score: 1

      There certainly are a lot of crappy cards out there claiming to be good enough for modern gaming. Where your tirade breaks down is that nVidia is no less guilty of it than anyone else. It's called having a product line, and a low-end nVidia card falls far behind a high end Radeon card.

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  12. It was stupid to begin with by Pinky's+Brain · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The card manufacturer brands simply aren't that strong, all the publicity about about brand splitting was just giving AMD free advertising with no benefit to NVIDIA. Worse, if they force ASUS to create new brands for AMD they might just launch Freesync only high end monitors ,,, which is not at all to NVIDIA's benefit.

    Some manager thought he was clever and tried to turn third party hardware partnership into just as effective an anti-competitive tool as software support, but they just don't work the same. Not so clever.

    1. Re:It was stupid to begin with by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, it wouldn't have been that stupid if no-one knew. They went to great lengths to keep it a secret.

    2. Re: It was stupid to begin with by JohnNemesh · · Score: 2

      Newsflash for you. Freesync is already dominant in monitors...and Sansungs new Q series TVs support it too. As does the Xbox OneX. AND when HDMI 2.1 is finished, so is the proprietary and nvidia taxed Gsync. Open beats closed EVERY SINGLE TIME!

    3. Re: It was stupid to begin with by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Too bad it's inferior.

    4. Re: It was stupid to begin with by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ya that's why everyone has a Linux desktop...

      Newsflash, most people don't care about open or not, or even this tin foil hat drama with nvidia. Most people want what works best for them. And this can be a wide variety of things, easy to use, good looking, cheap, expensive, fast, et cetera.

    5. Re: It was stupid to begin with by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, Freesync dominance in sheer number of available models is widespread but has serious downsides. When you buy a GSync monitor, for all the proce and proprietary hardware concerns, you do know what you get and pay for. When buying a Freesync monitor, you do not. The important characteristics of variable refresh rate are the range and what happens if you get out of that range (drop lower is the bigger concern). GSync has had that handled from day one. Freesync added LFC later which is not a requirement and is actually a working feature on suprisingly low amount of Freesync monitors.

      Gsync has fixed range (that does have its limits due to scaler). Lower bound is 30Hz, higher is 1920x1080@240hz, 2560x1440@144hz, 3440x1440@100hz, 3840x2160@60hz. GSync HDR or whatever the name of the new generation is apparently has a new and more powerful scaler that is going to UHD and higher resolution monitors now.

      Freesync does not have a mandated range. 45-75Hz is pretty common. 45-60Hz do exist and are frankly laughable. LFC initially required 2.5x difference between lower and higher bound of the range, it was soon after corrected to 2.0x because not enough monitors ended up having support. Monitors near 2.0x are often glitchy about LFC.

      And about Freesync being free and open. It really is not. It is an AMD's proprietary implementation of hardware plus software partially built on Displayport's standard Adaptive-Sync feature. Partially, especially because HDMI does not have variable refresh rate support as standard yet and Freesync does have HDMI support.

    6. Re: It was stupid to begin with by Mr3vil · · Score: 1

      Not inferior enough to justify NIVIDIA's price premium for G-sync. At least not to my eyes.

  13. More like caught with their hand in the cookie-jar by gweihir · · Score: 2

    And now they claim that their probably quite illegal act has just been "misunderstood" and is hence somebody else's fault. I think they pretty much panicked when they talked to some actually competent lawyers about what they had done. May also gave gotten some friendly warnings and an ultimatum from the competition.

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  14. Are we clear? Crystal. by JBMcB · · Score: 1

    According to Nvidia, all it asked of its partners was to "brand their products in a way that would be crystal clear."

    My laptop has a sticker on it that says "Powered by nVidia Quadro" How much more clear do they need to be?

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  15. Re:More like caught with their hand in the cookie- by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 1

    Telling people that they "misunderstood" when they understood perfectly well is gaslighting. If that's really what's happening then it's really sad that they stoop to that level.

  16. Yeah right... by XSportSeeker · · Score: 1

    "Misinformation".
    Caught trying to bully people for exclusivity, products already came out to prove the dirty tactic was working, and refused to reply to questions made by costumers, people covering the subject, and whatnot.
    More likely caught red handed with shady tactics to corner the market and wanted to avoid a lawsuit.
    See guys, it wasn't only that nVidia was trying to put nVidia products into a separate brand than the competition, it's that they wanted exclusivity, they were shutting down access for bloggers and YouTubers for covering the subject, and the whole thing was done under threats against manufacturers and brands not being able to have access to all the benefits of a partner program if they didn't follow suit.
    The very basic strategy of "do you know who we are? If you don't do this you will never work with us again".
    Branding doesn't come cheap, which means most smaller manufacturers and even bigger ones didn't really want to create an entire new brand just to differentiate something that every freaking gamer worth their money already knew about. Most of the branding they've created for gamers was exactly that - to different products that were for gaming. Not to differentiate products that used x brand of graphics card.
    So what it effectively does is putting an extra barrier for smaller manufacturers to offer a line with AMD cards.
    And why the f*ck should nVidia be allowed to mandate desktop and laptop manufacturers to create a separate brand for their cards alone?
    Should manufacturers now also create a new brand only for Intel Wi-fi chips? For y brand of Ram memory? etc etc... see, of course the specs have to be clear, but there is no reason to force manufacturers to create separate branding for each and every component on a gaming rig.
    Can you imagine anyone in this particular market category being confused about desktops and laptops coming with an nVidia graphics card and an AMD one? With all the labeling and all the front page specs ads that we have?

  17. Re:More like caught with their hand in the cookie- by gweihir · · Score: 1

    I agree. Unfortunately also quite non-surprising. Just a standard technique to avoid responsibility and put a "spin" on things.

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  18. Re:I AM FARTICUS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    everyone feels sad for you. you, and everyone like you. we used to make fun of people like you, but now the sjw's make these words so not politically correct to use. just know, we still laugh at you behind your back,and for god sake wipe your nose. a long trail of snots leaking down your face is not a good look. if there weren't protections against people like you, i might be bothered to give you a wedgie and kick your ass.

  19. Re:More like caught with their hand in the cookie- by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Telling people that they "misunderstood" when they understood perfectly well is gaslighting. If that's really what's happening then it's really sad that they stoop to that level.

    sjw monitor just beeped..... (gaslighting) fuck off.