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Edge Computing: Explained (theverge.com)
An anonymous reader shares a report from The Verge, written by Paul Miller: In the beginning, there was One Big Computer. Then, in the Unix era, we learned how to connect to that computer using dumb (not a pejorative) terminals. Next we had personal computers, which was the first time regular people really owned the hardware that did the work. Right now, in 2018, we're firmly in the cloud computing era. Many of us still own personal computers, but we mostly use them to access centralized services like Dropbox, Gmail, Office 365, and Slack. Additionally, devices like Amazon Echo, Google Chromecast, and the Apple TV are powered by content and intelligence that's in the cloud -- as opposed to the DVD box set of Little House on the Prairie or CD-ROM copy of Encarta you might've enjoyed in the personal computing era. As centralized as this all sounds, the truly amazing thing about cloud computing is that a seriously large percentage of all companies in the world now rely on the infrastructure, hosting, machine learning, and compute power of a very select few cloud providers: Amazon, Microsoft, Google, and IBM.
The advent of edge computing as a buzzword you should perhaps pay attention to is the realization by these companies that there isn't much growth left in the cloud space. Almost everything that can be centralized has been centralized. Most of the new opportunities for the "cloud" lie at the "edge." The word edge in this context means literal geographic distribution. Edge computing is computing that's done at or near the source of the data, instead of relying on the cloud at one of a dozen data centers to do all the work. It doesn't mean the cloud will disappear. It means the cloud is coming to you. Miller goes on to "examine what people mean practically when they extoll edge computing," focusing on latency, privacy and security, and bandwidth.
The advent of edge computing as a buzzword you should perhaps pay attention to is the realization by these companies that there isn't much growth left in the cloud space. Almost everything that can be centralized has been centralized. Most of the new opportunities for the "cloud" lie at the "edge." The word edge in this context means literal geographic distribution. Edge computing is computing that's done at or near the source of the data, instead of relying on the cloud at one of a dozen data centers to do all the work. It doesn't mean the cloud will disappear. It means the cloud is coming to you. Miller goes on to "examine what people mean practically when they extoll edge computing," focusing on latency, privacy and security, and bandwidth.
It is inevitable that as computers get more capable, these cloud services will become less attractive. Things I want private: Information Search, speech recognition, personal assistance, geographical services, etc.
I thought the only thing people used Edge for was to download Chrome.
Reading the article, all I see being described is the idea of going back to local processing and computation. Which, by definition, is not new. And definitely not edgy. Then again, how will I promote myself as an expert unless I make shit up?
Companies like Amazon, Microsoft, and Google have proven to us that we can trust them with our personal data. Now it’s time to reward that trust by giving them complete control over our computers, toasters, and cars.
There is no way anyone is crazy enough to write those lines in all seriousness.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
Because "Client side processing" is soooo 90s and early 2000s!!
(rolls eyes)
A lot of people have swallowed the "container in the cloud" kool-aid by the gallons. Espousing it has the cure-all for all your computing needs. I'm far less enthusiastic about it. I can see it being very useful for many things, but is not the final answer. Unfortunately, I'm dealing with the zealots on a daily basis.
-- Will program for bandwidth
"Many of us still own personal computers, but we mostly use them to access centralized services like Dropbox, Gmail, Office 365, and Slack"
No we don't, lol.
examine what people mean practically when they extoll edge computing," focusing on latency, privacy and security, and bandwidth."
This sounds suspiciously like returning data from the cloud to my personal computer and the pendulum is swinging back again. In the 80's we had dumb terminals, in the 90's we had thin clients and then in the 2000's we got the cloud, all of these things were more or less the same thing. Dumb terminals and thin clients failed because of latency and bandwidth, the cloud will fail because of privacy and security.
If you want your privacy back then demand your data back. Ask where your data is going with each transaction. Now, for the type of data I have, I trust encryption to protect my data going over the internet, but we've learned that any time we turn our data over to someone else that it's not a matter of "if" but "when" that data will find itself somewhere we would rather it not be.
In today's environment of easy access to home internet with speeds that rival a LAN of not too long ago, it's not hard to control all your data end points. Perhaps that's the new lame catch phrase we need. End point computing. Where everyone controls all their data end points. PC for processing, home central storage appliance for storage and archiving, media center for A/V, smartphone for portable and remote control. I also consider a rented virtual server (from a reputable company) to be close enough to personal property to count, and you can add that to your portfolio of processing if you want dedicated web applications like a good personally owned webmail. I don't actually expose my home storage appliance to the internet, though it's capable of it. I don't trust the security on it enough for that, so I use syncthing on my server for data synchronization and save bulk transfers to/from archive for when I'm home.
Demand you own all your data end points and simply refuse to use any "service" which offers to take care of your data for you. I won't use gmail, dropbox, picasa, or anything which will make it easy if I just give them my property.
If you want privacy, take back ownership of your data.
Next, everyone will discover that local computing actually has its benefits and the cycle will start again. Personally, I have zero hot vapor ("cloud") needs at this time and I will just continue to ignore this insanity. It does affect my work negatively though.
Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
... that's the reality, corporations can simply force software to be bicycle chained to computers in their offices and warehouses halfway across the world because the fibre optic cables we've layed over the planet has granted them super powers to take products hostage, pre internet they had to give us the shit we were paying for. Post internet they can simply take them hostage and the tech literate adults are trapped hundreds of miles away.
The cute little CEO's of videogame industry for instance basically stealing and breaking peoples games due to the dumbness of the average gamer. You bet DRM in diablo 3 and starcraft 2 wouldn't have been a thing if the entire gaming community was within two blocks of blizzard headquarters. The internet has granted them the ability to just NOT release the game and trap it inside computers in their offices while extracting tribute from our technocratic fuedal society that has emerged because technology undermines market ideology because there is no accountability for an organization that is hundreds of miles away. It's not that the outrage doesn't exist, it's that it needs physical proximity to have an effect on company policies. So post internet we'd need access to portal technology or a radical ideological revolution that gave us access to the equivalent resources of these big companies with bottomless wells of cash... So we could buy the time and travel our asses up their to hold these companies accountable.
Reality is short of that we're living in a new feudal trechnocracy a new serfom enabled by technology and short of ideological change the public will live in a puddle of its own solipsistic capitalist worshipping piss because they don't have the brain cells to understand there aint no market without any accountability.
It's when your computation is juuuuusut about done, but then you stop the processor suddenly but leave the caches full.
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Thank you for the clarification.
There's a swizzle stick in my pee hole.
PCs promised to give computing to the user.
Big business couldn't let go of the power of centralised computing.
We need to loose the server farms and have a true peer to peer computing network.
Go well
Here's a survey I did with a sample size of one:
Dropbox - "(c) not to my knowledge" [x]
GMail - "(b) yes, but not as my safe account" [x]
Office 365 - "(d) No. Way." [x]
Slack - "(e) uh, dunno. What is it?" [x]
No, your children are not the special ones. Nor are your pets.
This feels like a cycle. The first computers only had a few users who were located nearby, then we had dumb terminals that allowed many people using the same computer, then personal PCs went back to the first model, then cloud computing was the second model, and now we are back to the first model. Maybe this all is just a marketing scheme?
Space Shuttle was a program that strapped humans to an explosion and tried to stab through the sky with fire and math
> Then, in the Unix era, we learned how to connect to that computer using dumb (not a pejorative) terminals
The "Unix era" started in the 1990s with Linux. Before that, even at its greatest extent, it was largely limited to universities and some vertical tasks like workstations and file servers. We're talking a few million machines on the planet, compared to several billion today.
In any event, the period in which Unix was associated with dumb terminals was a tiny, tiny slice of its history. Dumb terminals are far more associated with the minicomputer era than "the Unix era". Yes, mainframes had them too, but the history of mainframes is mostly in the offline-storage era (punch cards and tapes) and its period of use with terminals is about the same as the mini.
Probably not.
The main problem with pure "cloud computing" (or as we used to call it: Shared Hosting) is latency and bandwidth, a problem that is harder without massive investment or even impossible to solve altogether. If you have 15,000 employees moving from internal e-mail to Office 365 or GMail, every single instance of these e-mail connections now has to go through your Internet pipes. Whereas you could've gotten away with a gigabit network port to your servers, you now have to have gigabit to the Internet on top of your existing needs, not always possible in certain areas and a huge expense regardless.
The other problem with cloud computing is that the help desk and FTE costs never really went away. Whether you host the servers with Amazon or in-house, the support cost remained the same and the TCO went up for most unless whatever you were running really wasn't core to your business (so basically: if you saved money with the cloud, you were bad at managing your IT).
As more people are looking at remote desktop solutions for various reasons (licensing, security, management and consolidation, GPU computing), the bandwidth requirements just aren't feasible anymore and nobody is clamoring to get 10Gbps ($10-15k/month) to the premises just to feed the cloud company. You can't give hundreds of single workstations a Tesla or a Quadro but you can give them a $500 Dell machine and connect to a system that has 32-something GPU instances. But you're not running this on the cloud, latency alone kills any practical application of it.
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Whoosh
Remember to get your computer's consent first.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
The Molestor?
In the beginning was the One Box, with many terminals, and that's what the "cloud" is: mainframes and centralized control. Personal computing died in 2001 when all Intel/AMD chips encrypted the BIOS. "Your" computer isn't yours. It belongs to whomever rolls up the BIOS, in the end. Hacking that encryption is a DMCA crime, and a violation of some contract you "signed", though many will pop up and say it isn't.
If you own a PC made before 2001, you may have a personal computer. After that, PCs and portable computing belong to corporations.
It's been long enough, more than, for a couple of generations to not have heard of any of this. And they won't going forward. This is the aquarium water they breathe.
I recall in Heinlein's "Friday", Friday Jones asked the networked computer she had been using for research a simple question: Who owns you? In a refreshing display of honesty, it refused to answer the question. Heinlein was a deep one.
Christ now I have to learn a new acrobym
The dangers of excessive individualism are nothing compared to the oppressiveness of excessive collectivism
Slack is a chat client.
Some company use it for messaging groups.
It has an API so git pushes or pull requests or jenkins build success or fail messages can easy be routed into message groups.
AS a client it kinda sucks, it is an HTML5 web thing running as a desktop Application (and/or on tablets etc.)
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"(so basically: if you saved money with the cloud, you were bad at managing your IT)."
Pretty much what's happening in a lot of places. Pretty much why every IT person that visits once a year just hands everyone Windows 10. There is a huge lack of IT personnel at these places to handle most things, so the easiest thing to do is to give it all to the cloud. Because who cares? The client doesn't seem to care as long as they don't have to hire IT people, because they see it as a waste of resources. That is, until they have a data breach, then they blame everyone but themselves.
I can't believe nobody thought of edge computing before!
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Essentially, it sounds like we're slowly getting back to a mainframe type philosophy, where less and less computing is done by the client, except the mainframe is now distributed across a cloud.
Look back up at my post, now look back down, you're on the Internet. Now look back up. I'm a signature.
Yes, and in those cases, if you can get away with NOT having an IT person, shared hosting websites/email is fine as it always was. We now call it Cloud but the concept is the same, we just scale it bigger so you can manage 1500 servers per 1 FTE. But once your IT needs grow beyond the one-admin operation, Cloud is typically a waste because you should just be bringing in a set of cheap servers in-house with a backup somewhere on a VPS.
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I am sure I am not alone is stating for the record that I am NOT "cloud-based" in either my computing, or my data storage.
Let my Stand-alone PC remain unclouded!
Personally, I still can't get behind the current push my M$ to have the OS declared a "service" and no longer a product.
I run Office from my system, and have no ties or reliance upon the net or any cloud service.
OneDrive has been yanked, as has been anything that ties to any form of a Could-Based system.
And I am still functioning well enough, no matter what people claim!
I'll stay in the clear, blue sky, thanks.
managed by you.
As the use of personal grew corporations like Microsoft peddled software applications like Word and later Office to each PC owner, manufacturing millions of CD install discs. Piracy is impossible to control and corporations began looking for other ways. Hosting servers that offered access to office software for monthly or yearly fees solved two problems. It allowed Microsoft to upgrade their "cloud" servers and avoid previous sales or distribution methods for new sales or updates and patches, and, it allowed them to charge for storing users work files. Microsoft had thus achieved its original goals: charging per use of applications, not per application, and cutting down on manufacturing and distribution expenses.
Recent news has pointed out the vulnerability of cloud security, and I suspect that we are hearing only the tip of the iceberg, but that's another issue. The real issue relates to market share. How can Microsoft and the other big corporations increase their market share? By forcing those who refuse to use the cloud to move to it. How will they do that? By bribing (a.k.a. lobbying) Congress to pass laws forbidding computer makers from including internal storage of any capacity, for reasons of "security", or allowing USB ports to use USB sticks with any significant capacity. Chromebook has blazed the trail in this direction.
Future PCs will not be bootable at all without an Internet connection to approved sites. You cancel your "subscription" to that cloud service and your PC is bricked. You will be allowed to transfer to another cloud service only after you pay for a "transfer" fee and a "termination" fee, which allows your current cloud operator to transfer your login credentials to the other cloud. So why bother? Where ever you go on the Internet your presence will be recorded via the GUID stored in your boot prom. Anonymous browsing will be illegal. So will be access to the Dark Web. And it goes without saying that Linux and FOSS, although not formally declared illegal, will never have access to this "secure" PC paradigm.
What to know what politics will be acceptable on this new web of clouds? See what Twitter, FB, YouTube and the like are doing to free speech now. They don't like what you write? They declare you to be a "", and ban or cancel your account for "hate speech".
Running with Linux for over 20 years!
They are a thing in PR and CIA/NSA-like agencies, and likey have been at least since the world wars.
I recently even saw a lecture, teaching it to the newest version of corporate sleazebags.
The main trick that makes it work, just like with any good con, is that nobody (normal) can believe anyone woule be *that* deceitful and manipulative. (And that it would be that big and that old.)
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The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
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I hope English is not your first language.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
low-lying cloud computing
Fog computing?
Ezekiel 23:20
Crap, I should go to sleep already. Missing half the words at this night hour...
Ezekiel 23:20
Boring
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.