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Microsoft Works To Port Ubuntu To Windows ARM (neowin.net)
Billly Gates shares a report: It was this time last year that Microsoft announced that it was bringing Ubuntu to the Windows Store (now the Microsoft Store), along with other Linux distributions. If you check out the app in the Store now though, you'll find that it only works on x64 devices, meaning that you can't run it on any of the new Windows 10 on ARM PCs. That's all about to change though. In a session at Microsoft's Build 2018 developer conference today called Windows 10 on ARM for Developers, the company showed off Ubuntu running on an ARM PC, with the app coming from the Microsoft Store. It will finally support ARM64 PCs, although x86 devices are still out of luck.
Just out of curiosity, what are the model names/numbers of currently shipping ARM PC's from MS? Or are all ARM PC's either older models or manufactured by someone else?
How about working on enabling 64-bit Windows apps to run on ARM?
Is it difficult?
They have $250 billion in cash sitting in their bank account.
Come on they could blow $100 billion on it and still have $150 billion left over. They could hire the top 1000 programmers in the world for $10 million a year for a decade to get it done.
Very soon you will see that first Windows server will be built on top of a linux kernel, and then future versions of Windows Home/Pro will be as well. Open source is FREE R&D for Microsoft. Why wouldn't they take advantage of it?
It's not "running Linux" by definition, because Linux is only a kernel and it is completely absent. Instead, MS is providing an emulation of the Linux syscall interface enabling unaltered Linux applications to run.
(That said, this will probably prove to be the simplest way of running "Linux" on an ARM laptop, thanks to the joys of ARM SoC vendors not providing sane drivers..)
...and why would you buy an x86 desktop or laptop to run Linux under Windows Subsystem for Linux? If you're talking about low power embedded hardware then that's got to be a VERY niche use case.
Embrace, extend, and extinguish -- United States v. Microsoft Corp., 2001
Microsoft's long history makes them untrustworthy. I think we should be very skeptical of relying on any technology out of Redmond, and view it as a potential trap.
It seems obvious that MS would like every Linux computer to have a copy of Windows installed. And for people to run their favorite Linux application along side Office 365 or whatever. I can't really blame them, it's a reasonable business strategy. But once MS has power over a market they aren't likely to act in their customer's best interests. Ultimately us consumers need to be cautious of what bargains we strike.
“Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
Who's using Microsoft Works to port an operating system? It could barely do simple word processing! Maybe one of the bajillion wizards or templates is for porting.
"...is worse than cancer."
-- Steve Ballmer
... do they run Linu
Oh, I see what you did there!
Who in there right mind is saying . . . FINALY!!! Can I get this as a UWP app so Linux will run on my Windows 10 in S mode? lolololol. How about just getting Windows 10 updates not to bork a grub loader so we can dual boot. HUH Microsoft.
"...is worse than AIDS"
-- Linus Torvald
Wonderful!!!
So finally Ubuntu will get a port of Microsoft Works !!!!!
I realize some of you have not yet switched to linux. I believe that the time is now, the microsoft and apple operating systems are simply unfit for most actual use cases due to spying, corporate shenannigans and general untrustworthyness.
Linux will not spy on you, has a low overhead, an extremely high uptime, better security, and tends to keep their applications small and useful.
The benefits stretch far into the horizon beyond the points I have brought up. It really is time to just get rid of the spyware and start using a machine properly to get work done. We all want to make money and having issues with updates, instability, lack of control, spying etc etc etc just keep costing more and more money while delivering fewer results.
If you are a business, a private institution or an individual the reasons to have windows are running out rapidly.
Linux is easy to install, has wide driver and printer support (at present wider support than microsoft, though not apple as apple is now based off the linux kernal), and by default assumes you are in control of your own machine which you purchased vs your machine simply being a physical dongle to connect to a corporations walled services.
If games are eliminated as well as specialty applications (which should have been web based and not installed applications to begin with) then what reason is left to run such an abusive thing upon your hardware?
And creepy... There must be a carcinogen in the code.
What's M$ business model to spent shareholders money on this?
4wdloop
So Wine has come along quite a bit in the past two years. Honestly they should drop there time there, MS seems determined to exit the OS business, patch up WINE more and be done with porting.
That's exactly what Microsoft does. They have a guaranteed revenue stream, and they've been trying to convert that into dominant positions in various other related industries. They've had success with the console market after burning an insane amount of money, they've failed repeatedly in the phone market after burning even more money, and it seems like they're achieving a pretty comfortable position in the tablet market. Microsoft can certainly afford to hire all of the talent that they want, and they actually do not want for qualified engineers. Also, this is not exactly novel ground here, it's the exact same type of work that was done to create WSL. Money may not solve every problem in the world, but it's actually a pretty effective way to get things done, and there's no reason to believe that this would be an exception.
Those who advocate genocide deserve every protection afforded by law, and none afforded by common human decency.
I have the Ubuntu logo tattooed on my arm.
So... if they're posting this in the Windows store... and the Microsoft Surface 1, which has been a dead-end device for years, has access to the Microsoft store... *checks Tegra 3 architecture* ...goddamnit.
I might actually consider a Windows shell that runs on Ubuntu, but an Ubuntu shell running on Windows, yeah, no thanks. The broken bits are still non-optional.
Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws-Plato
on 32 bit *and* on 64 bit ARM. So what's that fuss about?
C'mon, Microsoft. Shrivel up and die already. Do us that favor.
I would be very careful with this woman you are dating. Does she use tabs or spaces?
FreeCAD, LibreCAD, OpenSCAD, QCAD, brlCAD, there are at least a half dozen cad programs available, maybe more, with varying levels of features and styles of operation. But saying there are no professional quality open source CAD tools for at least the past 5+ years is bogus. FreeCAD via OpenCascade includes a whole suite of simulation tools, as well specific workspace modules designed for the workflow of boat design, housing/interior design, mechanical part design, electronic board design and even certain aspects of civil engineering. brlCAD has had many of those features even longer, although it is often difficult to build from source if a package for your operating system isn't available. Maybe they are not up to solidworks caliber, or Autodesk tools, but they are much closer than in the past and certainly useful enough for many workflows not involving cutting edge materials and technology which is only available in specific apps due to collusion between manufacturers.