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Apple CEO Says He Has Urged Trump To Address Legal Status of Immigrants; Also Told Him That Tariffs Are Wrong Approach To China (bloomberg.com)

Apple chief executive Tim Cook told Bloomberg Television that he has criticized Donald Trump's approach to trade with China in a recent White House meeting, while also urging the president to address the legal status of immigrants known as Dreamers. From the interview: Cook said his message to Trump focused on the importance of trade and how cooperation between two countries can boost the economy more than nations acting alone. Cook met with Trump in the Oval Office in late April amid a brewing trade war between the U.S. and China. The Trump administration instituted 25 percent tariffs on at least $50 billion worth of products from China, sparking retaliation. In the interview on "The David Rubenstein Show: Peer-to-Peer Conversations," Cook acknowledged that previous trade policies were flawed but said Trump's move is also problematic. "It's true, undoubtedly true, that not everyone has been advantaged from that -- in either country -- and we've got to work on that," Cook said. "But I felt that tariffs were not the right approach there, and I showed him some more analytical kinds of things to demonstrate why."

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  1. Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I voted for Tim Cook for president and am glad his policies will now be implemented. /sarcasm

    WTF? Why would I give a crap about what Cook thinks needs to be done? I voted Trump in because Trump was going to do things I wanted. If Tim wanted his policies to be put into place, perhaps he should have run instead. What is it with liberals that don't run, or can't win elections thinking their ideas should be put into place even if the majority of citizens showed they disagree with them. You all like to say the GOP needs to stay out of my bedroom, well the DNC needs to stay out of my government until they can win an election without having the FBI/CIA/NSA all spying on opposition campaigns attempting to throw the election their way illegally.

    1. Re:Good by Opportunist · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What world do you live in? In ours it doesn't matter who you vote for but how much money you stuff in his ass.

      Whores don't suck you for nice words or cheering for them, they suck you for greenbacks.

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    2. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The fact you believe there are actually "sides" and that those "two sides" need to cooperate says you've been snowed. It's all one big hodge-podge of power-hungry knob-slobbers that will do anything and everything to retain power. The less outward cooperation they show, the more likely the plebes will stay too riled up to notice we're all being bent over and fucked by those in power.

    3. Re:Good by HornWumpus · · Score: 3, Funny

      I'm not concerned about the last _100_years_ of proven Russian interference in our political process.

      Because Russia is, economically, about as big as New York City.

      I might be concerned if we had a president who took his wife to Lenin's tomb for their honeymoon. But that was Sanders, so no worries.

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  2. Tariffs have been a tool that works by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Tim Cook, like so many others, does not seem to understand that Trump's not actually implementing most tariffs, he is just using them as a tool - asking fir China to reduce import fees or else he'll implement the tariffs. Because Trump is kind of crazy, the Chinese can't tell if he will or not so they actually back off.

    Trump's use of tariffs as a threat is working.

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    1. Re:Tariffs have been a tool that works by drik00 · · Score: 2

      Exactly! People don't understand the idea of negotiating through strength...

      As far as DACA goes, it's never reported ANYWHERE that Trump has repeatedly said he wants Congress to pass a law to address the DACA recipients because Obama's creation of DACA via Executive Order was unconstitutional. He didn't rescind DACA out of malice or hate, he did it because it was essentially an illegal action by his predecessor.

      On a side note, it's the Democrats that have blocked any legislative solution on DACA recipients because they want to use it as a tool in the upcoming elections.

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  3. Re:Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Trump doesn't give a shit about any of that. As long as his ravenous fans/base think that way, that's what he will go for.

  4. Apple Doesn't Want China Tariffs to Increase? by cogeek · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So the CEO of a company that relies on low tariffs to justify outsourcing their products to be manufactured by forced child laborers has advised against raising tariffs on their products coming back into the country. Imagine that....

  5. So what IS the right approach? by RogueWarrior65 · · Score: 2

    When political opponents say that whatever their political rival is doing is the "wrong approach" but neglect to offer a realistic alternative, my ass begins to twitch.

    1. Re:So what IS the right approach? by King_TJ · · Score: 4, Informative

      Tim Cook probably has self-serving reasons to give this advice ... but still? I'd say the libertarian-minded stance would be the same; don't implement tariffs.

      The best alternative isn't a "quick fix" like most politicians are seeking. The long-term, best solution, involves encouraging U.S. based startups and small businesses to develop, and to perhaps a lesser extent, to provide some aid for mid-sized businesses too.

      If you impose fees on imported goods but your country doesn't offer enough comparable alternatives of its own that people want to buy instead, you wind up either A) punishing U.S. citizens by cutting off goods they want to buy, or B) causing the country doing the importing to mark up the prices of what they're selling to compensate for the higher taxes on bringing it in, while again ultimately making the American people cover that cost.

  6. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Did you forget Trump was a major Democrat donor for 35 years?

    Did you forget that time Obama said homosexuality was wrong, and that marriage was between a man and a woman?

    Did you forget that time Hillary said homosexuality was wrong, and that marriage was between a man and a woman?

    Do you remember that time when they all pivoted when it became convenient for polling?

    I remember. Quit being a tribalistic cult member, you fucking imbecile.

  7. Why indeed. by Comboman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why would I give a crap about what Cook thinks needs to be done?

    How about because he is the CEO of one of America's largest and most successful companies? I suppose you'd rather take economic advice from a senile reality-show host and real estate con-man who had to declare bankruptcy multiple times.

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    1. Re:Why indeed. by BronsCon · · Score: 5, Insightful

      How about we take what he wants re: China with a grain of salt because the company he's the CEO of does a lot of manufacturing there and, of course, he doesn't want tariffs as those affect his bottom line?

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    2. Re:Why indeed. by Daemonik · · Score: 4, Insightful

      How about no,exactly because he IS a CEO? He could give two squirts what happens to the rest of the US, as long as Apple's shareholders (including himself) continue to warm their asses with the giant pile of offshored cash Apple has, and the trade policies he wants are what will help Apple, not you.

    3. Re:Why indeed. by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 3, Informative

      You forget that Apple was on the verge of bankruptcy some years ago and only survived because M$ bailed them out?

      How long will this meme kick around the internet?

      It is ENTIRELY incorrect.

      Here's the REAL story:

      https://www.zdnet.com/article/...

    4. Re: Why indeed. by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 2

      Oh shit! He capitalized some words, so he's gotta be right. Fucking annoying.

      Indeed you are.

      Why not address the merits of my argument, rather than how closely I have adhered to your personal style manual?

  8. I wish Steve Jobs was still alive by shm · · Score: 2

    He'd have stayed focussed on creating new interesting products at Apple.

    And he definitely wouldn't have used wishy-washy terms like "problematic."

  9. Trump does not have authority to address legal s by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 5, Informative

    Trump does not have the authority to address the legal status of "Dreamers". Only Congress can do that....something which Trump has asked them to do.

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  10. Re:Trump does not have authority to address legal by thunderclees · · Score: 2

    Actually, he could do a lot with executive orders, Obama acted like a king with them.

  11. fsck that by TimMD909 · · Score: 2

    Apple can't even make a goddamn keyboard properly these days. I trust them even less w/ politics.

  12. I agree, tariffs are the wrong approach to China. by pecosdave · · Score: 3, Interesting

    However China doesn't think that tariffs are the wrong approach to the U.S. Nor do they think intellectual property theft is a problem. In fact the tariffs Trump has levied are still tiny in comparison to the ones China has on us, they just seem bigger (an in raw, no percentages taken into account it does mean more money) due to the huge trade imbalance.

    As a libertarian I'm against tariffs.

    I'm also against slavery, and to one degree or another China engages in it. I would argue the income tax system is slavery to, so the U.S. engages in it, but it's a matter of degree, many non-libertarians would argue by their measuring sticks that the U.S. does not engage in slavery through income tax but China still enslaves their people by the same measure.

    I don't think tariffs are the right approach, but we are playing a game where China has established the way they're playing that game. It's up to us to play with the rules they have established in mind, and our president has chosen to answer in kind, in percentages that are smaller than the ones they've presented against us. I can't fully fault Trump for his approach. My general approach to someone not playing by a rule set I agree with is to take my ball and go home, and I agree that probably isn't the right approach in this case.

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  13. Analytical? by sjbe · · Score: 2

    "But I felt that tariffs were not the right approach there, and I showed him some more analytical kinds of things to demonstrate why."

    Yeah and Trump is just all about being analytical instead of shoot from the hip reactionary. The guy has the attention span shorter than my puppy and has to have pretty pictures in his presentations to hold his attention. Analytical isn't going to convince him of anything. Flattery might...

  14. Re:Results by gnick · · Score: 4, Funny

    Removal of healthcare

    Only for people who can't afford it.

    tax breaks for the better off

    It's going to cost DJT a fortune. He said so.

    banging porn starts and paying them off

    You're supposed to pay porn stars after banging them.

    making it so anything negative is fake news

    With so much negative DJT coverage, what other explanation is there but it being fake?

    the wall

    Mexico's paying for it; I don't see what the problem is.

    MAGA!

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  15. Wrong by ArchieBunker · · Score: 4, Informative

    https://thenextweb.com/apple/2...

    Steve Jobs himself said they were 90 days from bankruptcy.

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  16. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The destruction of America???? Are you fucking retarded? Or are you just a dishonest Trump-hating piece of shit? America is running just the same as it always has... so your point is just plain wrong.

    You are exactly like those anti-brexiters... crying about the destruction brexit will cause... you know what happened??? FUCK ALL!!!!

    Go jerk off to HIllary you SJW cuck.

  17. Re: Did Cook forget Trump is Republican? by losfromla · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Except for accelerating destruction of environmental protections, rolling back consumer protections, increasing corporate welfare (and thereby wealth disparity) in the form of the repugnican tax scam, breaking of promises (Iran nuclear agreement) to our allies and others, etc. Yeah, things are going same as always... Really though?

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  18. Re:Hello, did you read nothing??? by hackingbear · · Score: 2

    He used the stick and him "generously" helping ZTE is the carrot, only now the new ZTE will behave - and be grateful to Trump for having been punished!

    That's your biased wishful thinking perhaps. He may well backdown because China imposed tariff on American agriculture products, hurting his and Republican's support base.

  19. Immigrants? Or illegal aliens? by Chas · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There's a distinct difference.

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