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Apple CEO Says He Has Urged Trump To Address Legal Status of Immigrants; Also Told Him That Tariffs Are Wrong Approach To China (bloomberg.com)
Apple chief executive Tim Cook told Bloomberg Television that he has criticized Donald Trump's approach to trade with China in a recent White House meeting, while also urging the president to address the legal status of immigrants known as Dreamers. From the interview: Cook said his message to Trump focused on the importance of trade and how cooperation between two countries can boost the economy more than nations acting alone. Cook met with Trump in the Oval Office in late April amid a brewing trade war between the U.S. and China. The Trump administration instituted 25 percent tariffs on at least $50 billion worth of products from China, sparking retaliation. In the interview on "The David Rubenstein Show: Peer-to-Peer Conversations," Cook acknowledged that previous trade policies were flawed but said Trump's move is also problematic. "It's true, undoubtedly true, that not everyone has been advantaged from that -- in either country -- and we've got to work on that," Cook said. "But I felt that tariffs were not the right approach there, and I showed him some more analytical kinds of things to demonstrate why."
He will not consider the opinion of someone who's sexual orientation is an abomination to God and nature.
I voted for Tim Cook for president and am glad his policies will now be implemented. /sarcasm
WTF? Why would I give a crap about what Cook thinks needs to be done? I voted Trump in because Trump was going to do things I wanted. If Tim wanted his policies to be put into place, perhaps he should have run instead. What is it with liberals that don't run, or can't win elections thinking their ideas should be put into place even if the majority of citizens showed they disagree with them. You all like to say the GOP needs to stay out of my bedroom, well the DNC needs to stay out of my government until they can win an election without having the FBI/CIA/NSA all spying on opposition campaigns attempting to throw the election their way illegally.
a) they think they can explain something to Donald Trump
b) they tell you they explained something to Donald Trump
c) they are Donald Trump
If you have any of the above symptoms, seek medical help immediately (even if you're a stable genius)
Tim Cook, like so many others, does not seem to understand that Trump's not actually implementing most tariffs, he is just using them as a tool - asking fir China to reduce import fees or else he'll implement the tariffs. Because Trump is kind of crazy, the Chinese can't tell if he will or not so they actually back off.
Trump's use of tariffs as a threat is working.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
So the CEO of a company that relies on low tariffs to justify outsourcing their products to be manufactured by forced child laborers has advised against raising tariffs on their products coming back into the country. Imagine that....
They took our jobs
American companies executives should be heavily taxed for outsourcing. Let them hire who they want manufacture where they want but tax them where it matters. The executives
When political opponents say that whatever their political rival is doing is the "wrong approach" but neglect to offer a realistic alternative, my ass begins to twitch.
Who cares about Apple? I didn't vote for them. I voted for Trump. I don't agree with Apple's policies and dislike their products immensely. They are not elected officials and should stop pretending they have any authority granted to them.
Trump's brain is sufficiently ossified that he is completely refractory to any input that is even a bit different from what he already 'knows'. No matter how many times it is repeated or elaborated upon.
Also told him, buy iPhones!
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He has made a lot of sycophants very rich and has philanthropically used Elizabeth Trumps fortune to feather a lot of lawyers nests. He has even used the family name to rack up spurious international debts to make even more people around him rich. He is a very clever (stable) genius.
Apple chief executive Tim Cook told Bloomberg Television ...
You need to say it on Fox News and/or Hannity if you want a chance for Trump to hear you. Apparently, that's all he watches. (Google it)
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
Well, that's lovely. Nobody voted for Tim Cook to implement his ideas on these things, so his political power to do so is zero.
Unless Dems think that Cook should have lots of political power, because he sold lots of stuff and capitalism is great so that's kinda like people voting.
If so, I await their heads exploding, like a 1960s sci fi robot caught in a contradiction ...
How about because he is the CEO of one of America's largest and most successful companies? I suppose you'd rather take economic advice from a senile reality-show host and real estate con-man who had to declare bankruptcy multiple times.
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It seems that currently the issue that prevents Dreamers from applying for legal immigration is the question on the immigration forms that requires people to declare if they came to the US illegally in the past and spent time in the US illegally and are subject to 3 or 10 year bans ... Seems the simplest solution is to just update the form and regulations to specify that it only applies to time you were in the US illegally when you were over 18 years old. If you came before you were 18 then you were a child and not legally responsible as an adult and shouldn't be penalized...
You shouldn't be given special benefit over people that followed US immigration law, but kids under 18 shouldn't be penalized for their parents mistakes. That means when you turn 18 you would have a few months to apply for a legal immigration status before the penalties kick in. For current dreamers I would think that there should be some discretion for people to initiate some legal immigration process if you have complied with the dreamer program requirements up until now.
"...I showed him some more analytical kinds of things to demonstrate why."
Heh.
Same idiot, 2 years ago...
Using logic and math on Trump is like buying Nike gift certificates for fish.
Table-ized A.I.
A company whose business model is to build products with cheap overseas labor and then sell them for inflated prices in the US does not want any tariffs imposed to cut into their profit. Imagine that. Obviously they have all of our best interests at heart.
I mean, c'mon. There are apple fanboys but their numbers are not enough to catapult this idiot into anything or anyone who would have a say-so about how the country is administered or how the economy runs. He has a grandeur vision of himself. May be has one of those funny mirrors in his office making him look like much bigger than he is and he started believing it.
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Of course Cook is going to say these things as they both serve his own interests.
His taxes are very low because he has access to the many tax shelters and loopholes only available to the rich and so he is not going to pay for the welfare and other giveaways that criminal aliens enjoy
He also will never live next to them in his lily white bread, walled estate in California.
That is to say he can afford his point of view.
Any criticism of Trump is is instant press these days.
That's because he's the president and also because 99% of what he says is flat out fucking stupid.
While that may be true, you can't argue with results.
(And no, the world isn't losing respect for the US because of Trump. If anything the world is treating us with *more* respect because they see that we no longer back down and take whatever shitty deals they give us.)
He'd have stayed focussed on creating new interesting products at Apple.
And he definitely wouldn't have used wishy-washy terms like "problematic."
Trump does not have the authority to address the legal status of "Dreamers". Only Congress can do that....something which Trump has asked them to do.
The truth is that all men having power ought to be mistrusted. James Madison
And Trump is back-pedaling on his stance against Chinese company ZTE
It's not called back-pedaling you moron, it's carrot and stick. He used the stick and him "generously" helping ZTE is the carrot, only now the new ZTE will behave - and be grateful to Trump for having been punished!
Do you seriously not see how this works???
right after the Chinese government agreed to back half the costs of a Indonesia project that will have a Trump branded golf course and hotels
Isn't it refreshing to have a president who gets kickbacks out in the open instead of through shell companies?
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Actually, he could do a lot with executive orders, Obama acted like a king with them.
Executive orders are a power granted to the POTUS by an act of Congress. Get over it. All of you.
Apple can't even make a goddamn keyboard properly these days. I trust them even less w/ politics.
Yeah, but that was deemed to be a prickish thing to do.
Funny that, Obama went through more executive order forms than rolls of toilet paper...
Trump is a more successful businessman then this Apple CEO, why would he take advice from him? Trump knows what he is doing, just sit back and know that Trump is a winner.
Hay Apple. Hire Americans!
" and I showed him some more analytical kinds of things to demonstrate why." And I'm sure Donald was able to comprehend none of what Mr. Cook tried to explain to him.
However China doesn't think that tariffs are the wrong approach to the U.S. Nor do they think intellectual property theft is a problem. In fact the tariffs Trump has levied are still tiny in comparison to the ones China has on us, they just seem bigger (an in raw, no percentages taken into account it does mean more money) due to the huge trade imbalance.
As a libertarian I'm against tariffs.
I'm also against slavery, and to one degree or another China engages in it. I would argue the income tax system is slavery to, so the U.S. engages in it, but it's a matter of degree, many non-libertarians would argue by their measuring sticks that the U.S. does not engage in slavery through income tax but China still enslaves their people by the same measure.
I don't think tariffs are the right approach, but we are playing a game where China has established the way they're playing that game. It's up to us to play with the rules they have established in mind, and our president has chosen to answer in kind, in percentages that are smaller than the ones they've presented against us. I can't fully fault Trump for his approach. My general approach to someone not playing by a rule set I agree with is to take my ball and go home, and I agree that probably isn't the right approach in this case.
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Can we stop with this nonsense?
Obama issued fewer executive orders on average than any president since Cleveland:
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/01/23/obama-executive-orders/
Trump so far is on course to sign far more.
"But I felt that tariffs were not the right approach there, and I showed him some more analytical kinds of things to demonstrate why."
Yeah and Trump is just all about being analytical instead of shoot from the hip reactionary. The guy has the attention span shorter than my puppy and has to have pretty pictures in his presentations to hold his attention. Analytical isn't going to convince him of anything. Flattery might...
Trump does not have the authority to address the legal status of "Dreamers". Only Congress can do that....something which Trump has asked them to do.
This is quite true, but surely you know the reason why he's doing this. And it's not because it's the right thing to do or he loves the US Constitution or he respects separation of powers or whatever. He knows that Congress is so dysfunctional that it will simply never reach a deal and that Republican members of the House are running for re-election locally on racially charged anti-immigration platforms that play well in the small towns that Republican districts mostly contain and they'll quite simply never approve a deal. This enables Trump to claim it's not his problem to solve, and he is technically correct, but it's also so he can pin the blame on Congress if it becomes convenient for him to do so. He's definitely not doing this because he wants a solution.
What results? Removal of healthcare, tax breaks for the better off, banging porn starts and paying them off, making it so anything negative is fake news, the wall? No mate, the rest of the world IS losing respect for you because they see you don't give a fuck about anyone else anymore. When did the US accept whatever shitty deals were given to them? All deals are a meeting of compromise and America has shown she is no longer willing. When you start slinging its our way or the highway about you'll be surprised how many people will let you go. You might be able to get a good deal out of the UK though because we've fucked ourselves so hard that we'll probably literally be begging for it, but that isn't out of respect.
Don't forget:
Defeating ISIS
Withdrawing from TPP
Withdrawing from Paris accord
Ending the Korean war
Kickstarting the economy
Bringing jobs back
Lowest unemployment ever
I think Apple has an angle with this advice, but I can't put my finger on it...
https://thenextweb.com/apple/2...
Steve Jobs himself said they were 90 days from bankruptcy.
Only the State obtains its revenue by coercion. - Murray Rothbard
1. Apple doesn't need you... they've survived despite your leadership ... no none wants it... new iPhone sales... disappointing... New MacBooks disappointing.
2. Every new project under you is a failure... touchbar - no one wants it... soldered components
3. There's a class action lawsuit against Apple over keyboards.... seriously???? Apple can't make a proper fucking keyboard under your leadership.
Instead of talking about Trump how about you get your shit in order.... and probably quit Apple before you destroy it you incompetent twat.
Very few people in party leadership, or elected officials, or even activists, are Christian conservatives. And Trump certainly isn't a Christian conservative. The values voter went out the window after George W. Bush.
Those are the only two sides.
The State, including its perpetual bureaucracy, contractors, lobbyists, politicians, major donors from connected crony corporations, and influencers who seek to wield state power against their personal enemies
The People, including those who work normal jobs, keep to themselves, own businesses that just try to sell an honest product/service without government cronyism, and otherwise just want to be left alone to pursue their goals and live peacefully
Trump does not have the authority to address the legal status of "Dreamers". Only Congress can do that....something which Trump has asked them to do.
This is quite true, but surely you know the reason why he's doing this. And it's not because it's the right thing to do or he loves the US Constitution or he respects separation of powers or whatever. He knows that Congress is so dysfunctional that it will simply never reach a deal and that Republican members of the House are running for re-election locally on racially charged anti-immigration platforms that play well in the small towns that Republican districts mostly contain and they'll quite simply never approve a deal. This enables Trump to claim it's not his problem to solve, and he is technically correct, but it's also so he can pin the blame on Congress if it becomes convenient for him to do so. He's definitely not doing this because he wants a solution.
Since you're psychic, can you tell me what the weather will be like tomorrow?
But, as proved by the fact that the issue has come up, he cannot actually resolve their legal status. Obama tried resolving their legal status by executive order (after stating repeatedly that he did not have the authority to do so), yet here we are.
The truth is that all men having power ought to be mistrusted. James Madison
It seems to me that an awful lot of folks in the Middle East just want to keep killing each other and will use any excuse to justify it. Trumps move (which actually is a negative move, in that he simply chose to not renew a waiver to the 1995 law requiring the US embassy to be in Jerusalem, thereby letting the law and its consequences play out) is just today's excuse. ISIS making Genghis Khan seem tame...Sunnis and Shias are trading suicide bombings in mosques...Taliban lashing out all over...
"Militants from the Pakistani Taliban have attacked an army-run school in Peshawar, killing 141 people, 132 of them children, the military say.
"In Kabul, a suicide bomber killed at least 39 people and injured 45 more when he detonated his explosives among some 100 worshippers in a Shia mosque in the western part of the capital, according to the interior ministry. Some of the victims were reportedly shot after the blast on Friday evening.
"In central Ghor province, a suicide bomber killed 33 worshippers in a Sunni mosque, purportedly targeting a local commander from the anti-Taliban Jamiat party, said police spokesman Mohammad Iqbal Nizami.
"The most horrific incident was over the weekend in Baghdad where an ISIS suicide car bomb targeted the Karrada shopping area, killing over 175 people including numerous children. One moment Muslim families were shopping and socializing after breaking the Ramadan fast at sundown. The next, entire families were gone in a blink of an ISIS bomb. The blast targeted a primarily, but not exclusively, Shia neighborhood. But if you think ISIS hesitates at slaughtering Sunni Muslims, you simply don’t know what ISIS has been up to the past few years. The group has brutally murdered countless Sunni Muslims, including three women who reportedly refused to treat ISIS fighters and others who refused to pledge allegiance to ISIS. ISIS even reportedly killed three imams “for failing to praise ISIL in their sermons.”
"Four suicide bombers hit a pair of crowded mosques in Yemen's capital of Sanaa on Friday, killing at least 137 people and injuring more than 300 others, officials told NBC News. The ISIS affiliate in war-torn Yemen claimed responsibility for the attacks, according to Flashpoint Intelligence, a global security firm and NBC News consultant. It was the first large-scale attack claimed by the Sunni militants in Yemen, which has been in a state of chaos since Shiite Houthi rebels launched a violent power grab.
"I 'member."
I am not going to bother debating someone who has drunk that much of the Democratic Part koolaid, but I will point out that it is not an "anti-immigration" platform. It is an anti-illegal immigration policy.
I will also point out that illegal immigration harms those whom the Democratic Party claims to work on behalf of. Illegal immigration harms those at the bottom of the economic pile, those who are better off benefit from illegal immigration (which explains why Democrats so vociferously fight for illegal immigration).
The truth is that all men having power ought to be mistrusted. James Madison
NY Times:
The headline on the website Pravda trumpeted President Vladimir V. Putin’s latest coup, its nationalistic fervor recalling an era when its precursor served as the official mouthpiece of the Kremlin: “Russian Nuclear Energy Conquers the World.”
The article, in January 2013, detailed how the Russian atomic energy agency, Rosatom, had taken over a Canadian company with uranium-mining stakes stretching from Central Asia to the American West. The deal made Rosatom one of the world’s largest uranium producers and brought Mr. Putin closer to his goal of controlling much of the global uranium supply chain.
But the untold story behind that story is one that involves not just the Russian president, but also a former American president and a woman who would like to be the next one.
At the heart of the tale are several men, leaders of the Canadian mining industry, who have been major donors to the charitable endeavors of former President Bill Clinton and his family. Members of that group built, financed and eventually sold off to the Russians a company that would become known as Uranium One.
As the Russians gradually assumed control of Uranium One in three separate transactions from 2009 to 2013, Canadian records show, a flow of cash made its way to the Clinton Foundation. Uranium One’s chairman used his family foundation to make four donations totaling $2.35 million. Those contributions were not publicly disclosed by the Clintons, despite an agreement Mrs. Clinton had struck with the Obama White House to publicly identify all donors. Other people with ties to the company made donations as well.
And shortly after the Russians announced their intention to acquire a majority stake in Uranium One, Mr. Clinton received $500,000 for a Moscow speech from a Russian investment bank with links to the Kremlin that was promoting Uranium One stock.
At the time, both Rosatom and the United States government made promises intended to ease concerns about ceding control of the company’s assets to the Russians. Those promises have been repeatedly broken, records show.
Whether the donations played any role in the approval of the uranium deal is unknown. But the episode underscores the special ethical challenges presented by the Clinton Foundation, headed by a former president who relied heavily on foreign cash to accumulate $250 million in assets even as his wife helped steer American foreign policy as secretary of state, presiding over decisions with the potential to benefit the foundation’s donors.
September 2005
Frank Giustra, a Canadian mining financier, wins a major uranium deal in Kazakhstan for his company, UrAsia, days after visiting the country with former President Bill Clinton.
2006
Mr. Giustra donates $31.3 million to the Clinton Foundation.
February 2007
UrAsia merges with a South African mining company and assumes the name Uranium One. In the next two months, the company expands into the United States.
June 2008
Negotations begin for an investment in Uranium One by the Russian atomic energy agency, Rosatom.
2008-2010
Uranium One and former UrAsia investors make $8.65 million in donations to the Clinton Foundation. Uranium One investors stand to profit on a Rosatom deal.
June 2009
Rosatom subsidiary ARMZ takes a 17 percent ownership stake in Uranium One.
2010-2011
Investors give millions more in donations to the Clinton Foundation.
June 2010
Rosatom seeks majority ownership of Uranium One, pending approval by the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States, of which the State Department is a member.
Rosatom says it does not plan to increase its stake in Uranium One or to take the company private.
June 29, 2010
Bill Clinton is paid $500,000 for a speech in Moscow by a Russian investment bank with ties to the Kremlin that assigned a buy rating to Uranium One stock.
October 2010
Rosatom’s majority ownership approved by Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States.
January 2013
Rosatom takes full control of Uranium One and takes it private.
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If Tim Cook understands all this why didn't he run for president?
And if he did, why didn't anyone vote for him?
I'm not sure why Tim Cook thinks he should lecture the guy the electorate picked.
I don't like tariffs any better, but there's a sketchy premise murking through this article.
There's a distinct difference.
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And Trump wrote more in his first year than Obama, and continues to write more than him
Man the right wing astroturfing on /. is SO obvious
Trump does not have the authority to address the legal status of "Dreamers". Only Congress can do that....something which Trump has asked them to do.
Maybe. The courts hadn't ruled on whether DACA was legal or not. I tend to agree that it wasn't legal. But I also think that penalizing people for actions that their parents took while they were under 18 isn't something the courts should uphold either.
If you were an illegal immigrant before you turned 18 then that time spent in the US illegally shouldn't be held against you for the purposes of denying you an opportunity to apply for things like student or other visas like any other immigrant. I don't think it should bring you to the front of the line either, but at the very least Trump could probably say that going forward when illegal immigrants turn 18 they can still apply for one of the legally sanctioned Visa programs and go from there. Or when DACA ends that people that were on DACA are not penalized by being forced from the country for 3 or 10 years before they are eligible to apply to come back.
Trump can as well, but chooses not to. Congress can overturn an executive order, but it requires them to get their act together.
Since you're psychic, can you tell me what the weather will be like tomorrow?
It will be within a few standard deviations of average.
He said he was willing to make a deal on the Dreamers, but they refuse to hand him a win, they'd rather use Dreamers as leverage than to fix the problem.
Think about that for a minute. They could just fund some border fencing at a cost of a few million dollars and help those people, but instead, they'd rather they were around to use as a political wedge.
The POTUS ENFORCES the law. Congress makes the laws. (Well supposedly). It's up to Congress to fix immigration laws, not the presidency.
You're leaving out the other 644 that he disguised as "memoranda."
Number is irrelevant to scope. The attempted end run around Congress to import cheap labor has a significant effect on citizens quality of life.
Most EO's do not.
Your point is invalid.
You are correct. So is the left wing astroturfing.
As AC pointed out earlier in the thread, the number is irrelevant, the effect should be the focus. The desire to frame the argument to a simple number rather than the obvious implicit meaning of "number of EO's that matter to me" is a absolute tip off that a left wing shill is operating the keyboard.
Sadly, the tug of war between the two parties is facilitated by this idiocy, rather than moving on to wondering how we get this two-winged-one-asshole shitbird off our backs.
Coal miners don't design iPhones or own Apple TVs.
Immigrant status HAS been addressed already.
a) you get approval to come to the USA, to immigrate, then come. You are a "LEGAL Immigrant"
b) you do not get approval to come to the USA, to immigrate, then come. You might overstay a tourist visa or swim over a river or hide in the back of some vehicle or get in some other way, but without prior written, approval. You are an "ILLEGAL Immigrant"
What's hard about that?
There are lots of people in the USA legally without citizenship or even a Permanent Resident card (green card). Many were allowed in for "Temporary" reasons due to weather in their home countries 5, 10, 15+ years ago. As of February 2018, these temporary visitors can apply for permanent residency. If they don't, they should prepare to leave when the program they are under ends.
Just because some people don't like the answers, doesn't mean it isn't addressed. There is a legal process for people. There are immigration lawyers to take their side of the case. If it works out, welcome. If not, so long.
It is unfortunate that Dreamer's parents chose to break US laws. We should never split up a family, so when the parents are deported, the kids should go as well. I moved 11 times as a child. They'd get over it. Almost every military brat with US military parents has moved 6+ times. We all got over it. 2 of my sisters moved DURING their Senior year in High School. Both became very popular at their new HS and attended well-regarded Universities (Rice, Cornell). For children born in the USA from parents illegally here, it would be cruel to break the family up. All of them should go back. Doesn't matter if "back" is Mexico, Ecuador, France, Canada, UK, Japan, China, Germany, Bolivia, Chile, Nepal, India, .... wherever. I don't care. When the kids become adults, they can choose to return to the USA, if they like. Welcome. If 1 parent is a US citizen or legal permanent resident, US citizenship can be passed to the child.
Perhaps it is time the USA amends the constitution to remove the born-here loophole? If both parents are in the USA illegally, then the child doesn't gain US citizenship. I looked up citizenship by parentage - almost every country in the world accepts this as a "right." They would not be born without a country. Very few countries give citizenship just based on the location of birth. It was a smart thing prior to 100 years ago for the USA, but times have changed and undesirable consequences are occurring due to this outdated law-of-the-land. Time to fix it.
He could say it, but it only means anything if Congress passes it into law.
The truth is that all men having power ought to be mistrusted. James Madison
Who is Tim Cook to tell someone what's the right thing to do? He's so fucking arrogant with ignoring the Macintosh for so long and now the fucking keyboard debacle.
It's time for Tim to stop worrying about his illegal immigrant employees and start worrying about keeping his job.
Allen asked Trump to address the legal status of illegal aliens. Immigrants have a legal status, illegal aliens do not.
There is no "-1 offended" or "-1 you don't agree with me" mod options for a reason.
So in 2024, when Trump is on his way out, I hope you will also support the wiretapping and surveillance of the Democratic electoral campaign, because Iâ(TM)m pretty sure foreign powers (not just Russia) will be âoeinterferingâ in that election as well. Shitting your pants yet? Youâ(TM)ve made your bed, now sleep in it.
I agree with him about the illegals and H1Bs.
But seriously, he is dead wrong about tariffs. China not only manipulates their money against the dollar, but has loads of tariffs against imports, esp. against the west. It is best that we raise tariffs on similar areas. For example, they have LARGE tariffs against cars from the west. We need to raise tariffs on cars and car parts from CHina. And it should ramped up monthly over several years, not just simply be slapped out like he is doing. This way, either CHina can decide to be honest and work for true free trade (i.e. keep their agreements that they are breaking), or let car makers know that their imported parts are about to become EXPENSIVE. i.e. move the manufacturing out of china.
If Trump takes that approach, China can then decide what to do.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
He said he was willing to make a deal on the Dreamers, but they refuse to hand him a win, they'd rather use Dreamers as leverage than to fix the problem.
God help us. You mean one of the sides of the debate wants to actually FIX the problem?! How DARE they?!
The previous attempts didn't work. Let's see where Trump's plan takes us. I don't like tariffs either. But it's better than doing nothing and watching our economy tank to China.
"A plan fiendishly clever in its intricacies"- Homer Simpson
A guy that runs a company with billions in the bank from selling music, cellphone apps, tablets and cellphones wouldn't be my go-to source for opinions on immigration and tarrifs.
Tim Cook got his job when Steve Jobs passed - Tim is an executive (a suit, in /. parlance), yet some how he is held up as some sort of 'Gandalf-like' character, his every utterance worthy of being carved in stone.
I don't care about Tim Cook's opinions on immigration, has Cook ever found himself competing against an illegal immigrant for a job? When your monthly paycheck has two commas in it, you have almost certainly lost touch with the hourly worker whose paychecks don't even have one comma.
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Company that has its super expensive stuff all made in China says tariffs are the wrong approach.
I'm sure he just thinks is bad, not that he is afraid of a 25% tariff on his products.
From the guy who told the EU after the EU told Apple they underpaid taxes to Ireland: you can have taxes or jobs not both.
Fuck Off Tim Cook, you tax cheat.
and a swine whos margins depend on slave level wages in countries like China. The United States has the most open market in the world, and China has one of the most closed. China imposes high tariffs on imports, requires foreign firms to transfer technology/ownership to entities owned by the government, and provides massive subsidies to its manufacturers in the form of export financing, land grants, machinery supplies, and labor subsidies. If tariffs are what it takes to bludgeon the Chinese into acting on par with us, then so be it.
The Courts have already ruled that DAPA, which was an identical program to DACA, but for adults, was unconstitutional - back in 2014.
The only reason any judge has upheld DACA is because of the magic of Trumplaw - the discovery that all laws are different if Trump is involved.
The FBI et al might have been investigating the links between the Trump campaign and Russia, but the only campaign intentionally attacked was Clinton's. Did you forget that?
You know who is more credible that the collective whole of the DNC, the Clinton campaign, and their sympathizers in the intelligence agencies? It's NSA whistleblower William Benny and his associates at the Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity, when they say there's no proof the DNC was hacked.
But sure, pretend the DNC is the problem.
They are the driving force behind this misinformation campaign, and even their namesake is a lie.
Tim Cook didn't declare bankruptcy multiple times.
Tim Cook has an IQ higher than room temperature.
Tim Cook has an opinion many people respect.
Unlike 45 and his Trumpkins.
"Oh my God. This is terrible. This is the end of my Presidency. I'm fucked."; ~ Donald J. Trump
Disingenuous headlines don't bode well for the content of the article.
Why leave out that very important adjective?
Republican Trump got elected and Democrats like Cook are freaked because the nasty Republican radical is going to deprive them of access to slave labor.
Tim Cook is running one of the richest companies on planet Earth, yet claims he would not be profitable if he used American workers to build his products. Well if that's true then how can ANY smaller company afford American workers?
This is all about Cook making himself and his shareholders artificially richer by selling products into the free markets of democratic societies while escaping the burdens of such societies to use the oppressed workers of a communist superstate. The man advocates for all sorts of liberal policies but is unwilling to pay the taxes to support those policies or live within the liberal rules associated with such policies.
He's a political hypocrit and fraud.
He's an incompetent businessman (since he apparently cannot be successful playing by the rules).
Yes I agree, thus DACA
Wow!! Hook, line and sinker!! I bet it tasted like shit, too.
Hope you choke on it.
So voters only matter when they pick the guy you like?
The shoe will be on the other foot.
Republicans say, "Elections have consequences", but Democrats say, "It doesn't matter. My opponent is brain dead !!"
If democrats and progressives have more to offer than juvenile recess taunts it doesn't make a practical difference because they carry out their agenda as if that's all they had going for them.
Your response reinforces this perception.
He did address dreamers and Democrats didn't want to cut a deal on the budget so it expired. Blame them.
You are forgetting the Chinese car market is bigger than the US, not to mention all the countries that aren't the US. Your car makers are trying to get into the Chinese market and you want to stop them? Why? Don't you like money?
Again with the currency manipulation? Didn't you learn from all the other times you claimed this nonsense? Show even some slightly credible information to suggest that is in the slightest way relevant.
In number of cars, yes. They sold 24 Million cars. But the cars average price is less than $20K. In 2016, china bought 409 B in new cars.
OTOH, in America, our average price was 35k, and we sold over $570B
China sold more new cars than second hand. America sells more second hand cars than new. China's car market is growing faster. China sold more electric cars, China's growth of Electric cars is faster.
https://seekingalpha.com/article/4174607-fastest-growing-car-market-world-today
After years of growth, car sales in China increased just 3 percent in 2017. Meanwhile, in the U.S. they fell by 1.8 percent.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/apr/09/donald-trump/donald-trump-right-china-slaps-25-percent-tariff-a/
Some experts suggested Trump had cherry-picked the facts by singling out "cars" instead of a broader category of automobiles or car parts.
For instance, the U.S. tariff on light trucks from China is 25 percent. That import duty is a legacy tariff that dates back to a trade dispute in the 1960s between the United States and several European countries, according to Gary Burtless, a senior fellow with the Brookings Institution.
"So by choosing ‘cars" but not ‘trucks’ in his Twitter example, Trump is cherry-picking products and not telling the entire story," said Bown, of the Peterson Institute.
Gary Hufbauer, a fellow at the Peterson Institute, noted that Chinese tariffs on American auto parts sent to China are well below 25 percent. For example, China places a 10 percent tariff on automobile engines.
Hicks, of Ball State University, noted that the trade disparity stems in part from Trump’s decision to pull out of the Trans-Pacific Partnership, an Obama-era deal to lower trade barriers among a dozen countries.
"So, had he not killed the TPP, whatever tariff distortions which now exist would have been reduced," Hicks said
sure, but it does no good for tesla when the average price / car is around 20K. They want to sell them at 40-50K like its competitors, such as BMW, MB, Lexus, etc., do.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
oh yeah. Your posting is right on. I think that Trump needs to go further than what he did. Right now, I get the funny sense that he is trying to pull a fast one, rather than stop CHina from doing their garbage to America.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
China remains the biggest single market for all three of the German premium brands, as well as for mass-market producers like Volkswagen's namesake marque.
All German luxury cars sell higher volumes in China than the US.
There is clearly a market for luxury cars in China. Even Tesla expects China to be it's biggest market in the future.
So you agree with me that America having a 25% import tax on SUV's, light trucks etc in America, is worse than China's much smaller 10% tax on parts like engines? And he tried to pull a fast one by not mentioning it to his gullible supporters. German companies seem to have no problem selling cars in China. Maybe America just design cars Chinese people don't like.
Sure, Trump is working from some kind of Master Plan, one with strategy, direction, purpose, clarity and intent. You keep telling yourself that!
The rest of us believe that Trump is an egotistical blowhard, thin-skinned and reactive. He has the attention span of a gnat. His knowledge of the world is so great, he keeps telling us that "most people don't know that (fill in anything that most people do actually know)".
Trump has also created an echo-chamber of pathetic boot-lickers around him. And that flushing sound is the sound of "adults reigning in Trump's worst excesses".
To explain why virtue is a bad thing.
This coming from the idiot MBA that's currently running Apple into the ground.
heh did you even read it?
A term used by the descendants of European invaders to refer to the descendants of native inhabitants. Inhabitants to whom the USG should pay trillions in restitution for hundreds of years of ethnic cleansing, aparthied, and the Monroe Doctrine.
So you want to enjoy a steady income made possible by living in a first world society, without having to pay for it (civilization isn't free). Just visit the libertarian paradise to see how well you can do without it.
And I'll point out that the US should pay trillions in restitution for centuries of the Monroe Doctrine, and extradite pretty much every high level State Department and CIA official to stand trial. Aside from overthrowing pretty much every country in latin america, you also bankrupted millions of Mexican farmers with NAFTA and turned their country into a violent hell hole with your War on Poor Drug Users.
Of course that's not going to happen, so in the meantime you could STFU and let Miguel sneak across the border to work at a gas station, after a CIA-backed death squad killed his parents.
However you want to rationalize blatant wingnut hypocrisy. You don't have to be as bad as the Democrats that now want a sitting president to resign over a sex scandal.
I suspect that you do not even know what the Monroe Doctrine is,, because I doubt you think that Latin America would be better off if the U.S. had allowed European countries to do the things you claim the U.S. has done in Latin America (which it more or less has).
I would like to point out that the current U.S. government is striving to get rid of NAFTA, while the current Mexican government is fighting to keep it.
The truth is that all men having power ought to be mistrusted. James Madison
Job's quote doesn't change the fact Apple already had ten times as much liquid assets as the $150 million investment from Microsoft:
Aside from that pile of money, Apple could have sold some of their real estate or their vast patent portfolio if they had to. They didn't have to.