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Apple CEO Says He Has Urged Trump To Address Legal Status of Immigrants; Also Told Him That Tariffs Are Wrong Approach To China (bloomberg.com)
Apple chief executive Tim Cook told Bloomberg Television that he has criticized Donald Trump's approach to trade with China in a recent White House meeting, while also urging the president to address the legal status of immigrants known as Dreamers. From the interview: Cook said his message to Trump focused on the importance of trade and how cooperation between two countries can boost the economy more than nations acting alone. Cook met with Trump in the Oval Office in late April amid a brewing trade war between the U.S. and China. The Trump administration instituted 25 percent tariffs on at least $50 billion worth of products from China, sparking retaliation. In the interview on "The David Rubenstein Show: Peer-to-Peer Conversations," Cook acknowledged that previous trade policies were flawed but said Trump's move is also problematic. "It's true, undoubtedly true, that not everyone has been advantaged from that -- in either country -- and we've got to work on that," Cook said. "But I felt that tariffs were not the right approach there, and I showed him some more analytical kinds of things to demonstrate why."
I voted for Tim Cook for president and am glad his policies will now be implemented. /sarcasm
WTF? Why would I give a crap about what Cook thinks needs to be done? I voted Trump in because Trump was going to do things I wanted. If Tim wanted his policies to be put into place, perhaps he should have run instead. What is it with liberals that don't run, or can't win elections thinking their ideas should be put into place even if the majority of citizens showed they disagree with them. You all like to say the GOP needs to stay out of my bedroom, well the DNC needs to stay out of my government until they can win an election without having the FBI/CIA/NSA all spying on opposition campaigns attempting to throw the election their way illegally.
a) they think they can explain something to Donald Trump
b) they tell you they explained something to Donald Trump
c) they are Donald Trump
If you have any of the above symptoms, seek medical help immediately (even if you're a stable genius)
Tim Cook, like so many others, does not seem to understand that Trump's not actually implementing most tariffs, he is just using them as a tool - asking fir China to reduce import fees or else he'll implement the tariffs. Because Trump is kind of crazy, the Chinese can't tell if he will or not so they actually back off.
Trump's use of tariffs as a threat is working.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Trump doesn't give a shit about any of that. As long as his ravenous fans/base think that way, that's what he will go for.
So the CEO of a company that relies on low tariffs to justify outsourcing their products to be manufactured by forced child laborers has advised against raising tariffs on their products coming back into the country. Imagine that....
When political opponents say that whatever their political rival is doing is the "wrong approach" but neglect to offer a realistic alternative, my ass begins to twitch.
Who cares about Apple? I didn't vote for them. I voted for Trump. I don't agree with Apple's policies and dislike their products immensely. They are not elected officials and should stop pretending they have any authority granted to them.
Also told him, buy iPhones!
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Exactly. Trump isn't a republican he is an opportunist.
Did you forget Trump was a major Democrat donor for 35 years?
Did you forget that time Obama said homosexuality was wrong, and that marriage was between a man and a woman?
Did you forget that time Hillary said homosexuality was wrong, and that marriage was between a man and a woman?
Do you remember that time when they all pivoted when it became convenient for polling?
I remember. Quit being a tribalistic cult member, you fucking imbecile.
I resent that. ;)
He's mostly a populist. He'll tell you whatever you want to hear.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Well, that's lovely. Nobody voted for Tim Cook to implement his ideas on these things, so his political power to do so is zero.
Unless Dems think that Cook should have lots of political power, because he sold lots of stuff and capitalism is great so that's kinda like people voting.
If so, I await their heads exploding, like a 1960s sci fi robot caught in a contradiction ...
How about because he is the CEO of one of America's largest and most successful companies? I suppose you'd rather take economic advice from a senile reality-show host and real estate con-man who had to declare bankruptcy multiple times.
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It seems that currently the issue that prevents Dreamers from applying for legal immigration is the question on the immigration forms that requires people to declare if they came to the US illegally in the past and spent time in the US illegally and are subject to 3 or 10 year bans ... Seems the simplest solution is to just update the form and regulations to specify that it only applies to time you were in the US illegally when you were over 18 years old. If you came before you were 18 then you were a child and not legally responsible as an adult and shouldn't be penalized...
You shouldn't be given special benefit over people that followed US immigration law, but kids under 18 shouldn't be penalized for their parents mistakes. That means when you turn 18 you would have a few months to apply for a legal immigration status before the penalties kick in. For current dreamers I would think that there should be some discretion for people to initiate some legal immigration process if you have complied with the dreamer program requirements up until now.
Apple chief executive Tim Cook told Bloomberg Television ...
You need to say it on Fox News and/or Hannity if you want a chance for Trump to hear you. Apparently, that's all he watches. (Google it)
Or to put it another way, Cook is speaking to his comforting echo chamber.
Using logic and math on Trump is like buying Nike gift certificates for fish.
Table-ized A.I.
A company whose business model is to build products with cheap overseas labor and then sell them for inflated prices in the US does not want any tariffs imposed to cut into their profit. Imagine that. Obviously they have all of our best interests at heart.
I mean, c'mon. There are apple fanboys but their numbers are not enough to catapult this idiot into anything or anyone who would have a say-so about how the country is administered or how the economy runs. He has a grandeur vision of himself. May be has one of those funny mirrors in his office making him look like much bigger than he is and he started believing it.
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Of course Cook is going to say these things as they both serve his own interests.
His taxes are very low because he has access to the many tax shelters and loopholes only available to the rich and so he is not going to pay for the welfare and other giveaways that criminal aliens enjoy
He also will never live next to them in his lily white bread, walled estate in California.
That is to say he can afford his point of view.
He'd have stayed focussed on creating new interesting products at Apple.
And he definitely wouldn't have used wishy-washy terms like "problematic."
Trump does not have the authority to address the legal status of "Dreamers". Only Congress can do that....something which Trump has asked them to do.
The truth is that all men having power ought to be mistrusted. James Madison
And Trump is back-pedaling on his stance against Chinese company ZTE
It's not called back-pedaling you moron, it's carrot and stick. He used the stick and him "generously" helping ZTE is the carrot, only now the new ZTE will behave - and be grateful to Trump for having been punished!
Do you seriously not see how this works???
right after the Chinese government agreed to back half the costs of a Indonesia project that will have a Trump branded golf course and hotels
Isn't it refreshing to have a president who gets kickbacks out in the open instead of through shell companies?
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Actually, he could do a lot with executive orders, Obama acted like a king with them.
God damn. Well done.
Apple can't even make a goddamn keyboard properly these days. I trust them even less w/ politics.
" and I showed him some more analytical kinds of things to demonstrate why." And I'm sure Donald was able to comprehend none of what Mr. Cook tried to explain to him.
However China doesn't think that tariffs are the wrong approach to the U.S. Nor do they think intellectual property theft is a problem. In fact the tariffs Trump has levied are still tiny in comparison to the ones China has on us, they just seem bigger (an in raw, no percentages taken into account it does mean more money) due to the huge trade imbalance.
As a libertarian I'm against tariffs.
I'm also against slavery, and to one degree or another China engages in it. I would argue the income tax system is slavery to, so the U.S. engages in it, but it's a matter of degree, many non-libertarians would argue by their measuring sticks that the U.S. does not engage in slavery through income tax but China still enslaves their people by the same measure.
I don't think tariffs are the right approach, but we are playing a game where China has established the way they're playing that game. It's up to us to play with the rules they have established in mind, and our president has chosen to answer in kind, in percentages that are smaller than the ones they've presented against us. I can't fully fault Trump for his approach. My general approach to someone not playing by a rule set I agree with is to take my ball and go home, and I agree that probably isn't the right approach in this case.
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Trump's been saying stuff a LOT of people don't want to hear
Only his most unhinged comments go against what his friends at Fox want to hear.
He's getting rather old, but he's a good mouse.
Can we stop with this nonsense?
Obama issued fewer executive orders on average than any president since Cleveland:
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/01/23/obama-executive-orders/
Trump so far is on course to sign far more.
"But I felt that tariffs were not the right approach there, and I showed him some more analytical kinds of things to demonstrate why."
Yeah and Trump is just all about being analytical instead of shoot from the hip reactionary. The guy has the attention span shorter than my puppy and has to have pretty pictures in his presentations to hold his attention. Analytical isn't going to convince him of anything. Flattery might...
Trump does not have the authority to address the legal status of "Dreamers". Only Congress can do that....something which Trump has asked them to do.
This is quite true, but surely you know the reason why he's doing this. And it's not because it's the right thing to do or he loves the US Constitution or he respects separation of powers or whatever. He knows that Congress is so dysfunctional that it will simply never reach a deal and that Republican members of the House are running for re-election locally on racially charged anti-immigration platforms that play well in the small towns that Republican districts mostly contain and they'll quite simply never approve a deal. This enables Trump to claim it's not his problem to solve, and he is technically correct, but it's also so he can pin the blame on Congress if it becomes convenient for him to do so. He's definitely not doing this because he wants a solution.
I've been pointing this out forever:nobody with any sense voted for either one of these losers; they merely voted against the other loser... and although I couldn't decide whether a swift kick in the balls or a chewy bite of shit sandwich sounded better, I concluded that 'stupid and angry' might be a safer bet than 'articulate but evil.'
Removal of healthcare
Only for people who can't afford it.
tax breaks for the better off
It's going to cost DJT a fortune. He said so.
banging porn starts and paying them off
You're supposed to pay porn stars after banging them.
making it so anything negative is fake news
With so much negative DJT coverage, what other explanation is there but it being fake?
the wall
Mexico's paying for it; I don't see what the problem is.
MAGA!
He's getting rather old, but he's a good mouse.
banging porn stars
Banging skanky pornstars, no less. "Unimpressed!"
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Steve Jobs himself said they were 90 days from bankruptcy.
Only the State obtains its revenue by coercion. - Murray Rothbard
The destruction of America???? Are you fucking retarded? Or are you just a dishonest Trump-hating piece of shit? America is running just the same as it always has... so your point is just plain wrong.
You are exactly like those anti-brexiters... crying about the destruction brexit will cause... you know what happened??? FUCK ALL!!!!
Go jerk off to HIllary you SJW cuck.
Put some data against all that.
Withdrawal from TPP = It'll cost to get back in, the pacific nations moved on without us.
Withdrawal from Paris = We'll be paying EU for carbon credits in future when we come crawling back. Can't fake basic physics, the earth is warming and we are to blame.
Ending the Korean war = Not yet it isn't. We don't yet know what North Korea is asking. Just wait for the bait a switch to China at the end of this.
Kickstarting the economy = LOL! Take a look at the "post obama" stock market, it's all over the place since exactly 1 year after Trump inherited it. It's been the WORST quarter in 5 years.
Bringing jobs back = Carrier has moved, Harley has moved. What are you on about?
Lowest unemployment ever = Greatest inequity ever
But, as proved by the fact that the issue has come up, he cannot actually resolve their legal status. Obama tried resolving their legal status by executive order (after stating repeatedly that he did not have the authority to do so), yet here we are.
The truth is that all men having power ought to be mistrusted. James Madison
It seems to me that an awful lot of folks in the Middle East just want to keep killing each other and will use any excuse to justify it. Trumps move (which actually is a negative move, in that he simply chose to not renew a waiver to the 1995 law requiring the US embassy to be in Jerusalem, thereby letting the law and its consequences play out) is just today's excuse. ISIS making Genghis Khan seem tame...Sunnis and Shias are trading suicide bombings in mosques...Taliban lashing out all over...
"Militants from the Pakistani Taliban have attacked an army-run school in Peshawar, killing 141 people, 132 of them children, the military say.
"In Kabul, a suicide bomber killed at least 39 people and injured 45 more when he detonated his explosives among some 100 worshippers in a Shia mosque in the western part of the capital, according to the interior ministry. Some of the victims were reportedly shot after the blast on Friday evening.
"In central Ghor province, a suicide bomber killed 33 worshippers in a Sunni mosque, purportedly targeting a local commander from the anti-Taliban Jamiat party, said police spokesman Mohammad Iqbal Nizami.
"The most horrific incident was over the weekend in Baghdad where an ISIS suicide car bomb targeted the Karrada shopping area, killing over 175 people including numerous children. One moment Muslim families were shopping and socializing after breaking the Ramadan fast at sundown. The next, entire families were gone in a blink of an ISIS bomb. The blast targeted a primarily, but not exclusively, Shia neighborhood. But if you think ISIS hesitates at slaughtering Sunni Muslims, you simply don’t know what ISIS has been up to the past few years. The group has brutally murdered countless Sunni Muslims, including three women who reportedly refused to treat ISIS fighters and others who refused to pledge allegiance to ISIS. ISIS even reportedly killed three imams “for failing to praise ISIL in their sermons.”
"Four suicide bombers hit a pair of crowded mosques in Yemen's capital of Sanaa on Friday, killing at least 137 people and injuring more than 300 others, officials told NBC News. The ISIS affiliate in war-torn Yemen claimed responsibility for the attacks, according to Flashpoint Intelligence, a global security firm and NBC News consultant. It was the first large-scale attack claimed by the Sunni militants in Yemen, which has been in a state of chaos since Shiite Houthi rebels launched a violent power grab.
"I 'member."
Except for accelerating destruction of environmental protections, rolling back consumer protections, increasing corporate welfare (and thereby wealth disparity) in the form of the repugnican tax scam, breaking of promises (Iran nuclear agreement) to our allies and others, etc. Yeah, things are going same as always... Really though?
Only I can judge you.
Is there really any other kind?
Did you forget it was ok to change your mind on many things, even fundamental things? I used to think nuclear energy was goid, then I thought it was bad and at this moment good again.
I know people who sworn to love each other till dead would part them. They changed their minds.
So I do not care if a politician changes his mind. It is better than others who never do, no matter how wrong they are proven to be.
Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
MAGA pun
As somebodyfrom Europe: thanks more make me snort my coffee all over my keyboard. I needed that lauch.
Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
If Tim Cook understands all this why didn't he run for president?
And if he did, why didn't anyone vote for him?
I'm not sure why Tim Cook thinks he should lecture the guy the electorate picked.
I don't like tariffs any better, but there's a sketchy premise murking through this article.
> He will not consider the opinion of someone who's sexual orientation is an abomination to God and nature.
You don't even need to go that far when someone intentionally confuses illegal alien with "immigrant". Although I am not sure what stake the guy really has here beyond "virtue signaling". Silicon Valley is the domain of H1Bs, not people that wade across the Rio Grand.
I personally know guys that have been here (legally) for 20 years that I wouldn't necessarily consider "immigrants".
A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
There's a distinct difference.
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Trump does not have the authority to address the legal status of "Dreamers". Only Congress can do that....something which Trump has asked them to do.
Maybe. The courts hadn't ruled on whether DACA was legal or not. I tend to agree that it wasn't legal. But I also think that penalizing people for actions that their parents took while they were under 18 isn't something the courts should uphold either.
If you were an illegal immigrant before you turned 18 then that time spent in the US illegally shouldn't be held against you for the purposes of denying you an opportunity to apply for things like student or other visas like any other immigrant. I don't think it should bring you to the front of the line either, but at the very least Trump could probably say that going forward when illegal immigrants turn 18 they can still apply for one of the legally sanctioned Visa programs and go from there. Or when DACA ends that people that were on DACA are not penalized by being forced from the country for 3 or 10 years before they are eligible to apply to come back.
given that humanity is approaching a star trek based economy, will billionaires be so open minded?
... I don't know where to start.
Defeating ISIS? Like the organization responsible for new attacks every week? Withdrawing from TPP and from the Paris accord as an unilateral move that results in more pollution and less global respect? Ending the Korean war by tweeting that he will destroy it (let's forget the role the North and South Korean leaders had)? The economy was running red-hot before Trump was ever elected, he just inherited it - what he did do is give a big tax breaks to companies who are now buying shares back, further distributing wealth to capital owners (and yes, while that's you and me, it's a lot more the 1% that are friends with Trump)?
trump's tax cut is another example of corporate welfare, I know there are others, I went with the one that was uppermost on my mind at the time. I am pretty lazy but definitely not a partisan sheep and I do give a damn. Thanks for attempting to judge me though, perhaps you didn't notice my signature...
Only I can judge you.
See, you've demonstrated some level of ignorance at the same time.
Most Democrats want gun control - training in the proper care and use for one. It's not a toy, but you see people use it as such (see the rampant YouTube videos).
Hillary's deplorable comment said half of Trump's followers were deplorable. My question is, why did they put themselves into the deplorable half? She's obviously talking about the kkk and skinheads that were openly pro dt. Sounds like they would have voted against Hillary even if she didn't say any of those things (or said it in a clearer manner).
Note: I'm not saying Hillary would have been better :p
The POTUS ENFORCES the law. Congress makes the laws. (Well supposedly). It's up to Congress to fix immigration laws, not the presidency.
You are correct. So is the left wing astroturfing.
As AC pointed out earlier in the thread, the number is irrelevant, the effect should be the focus. The desire to frame the argument to a simple number rather than the obvious implicit meaning of "number of EO's that matter to me" is a absolute tip off that a left wing shill is operating the keyboard.
Sadly, the tug of war between the two parties is facilitated by this idiocy, rather than moving on to wondering how we get this two-winged-one-asshole shitbird off our backs.
Coal miners don't design iPhones or own Apple TVs.
Immigrant status HAS been addressed already.
a) you get approval to come to the USA, to immigrate, then come. You are a "LEGAL Immigrant"
b) you do not get approval to come to the USA, to immigrate, then come. You might overstay a tourist visa or swim over a river or hide in the back of some vehicle or get in some other way, but without prior written, approval. You are an "ILLEGAL Immigrant"
What's hard about that?
There are lots of people in the USA legally without citizenship or even a Permanent Resident card (green card). Many were allowed in for "Temporary" reasons due to weather in their home countries 5, 10, 15+ years ago. As of February 2018, these temporary visitors can apply for permanent residency. If they don't, they should prepare to leave when the program they are under ends.
Just because some people don't like the answers, doesn't mean it isn't addressed. There is a legal process for people. There are immigration lawyers to take their side of the case. If it works out, welcome. If not, so long.
It is unfortunate that Dreamer's parents chose to break US laws. We should never split up a family, so when the parents are deported, the kids should go as well. I moved 11 times as a child. They'd get over it. Almost every military brat with US military parents has moved 6+ times. We all got over it. 2 of my sisters moved DURING their Senior year in High School. Both became very popular at their new HS and attended well-regarded Universities (Rice, Cornell). For children born in the USA from parents illegally here, it would be cruel to break the family up. All of them should go back. Doesn't matter if "back" is Mexico, Ecuador, France, Canada, UK, Japan, China, Germany, Bolivia, Chile, Nepal, India, .... wherever. I don't care. When the kids become adults, they can choose to return to the USA, if they like. Welcome. If 1 parent is a US citizen or legal permanent resident, US citizenship can be passed to the child.
Perhaps it is time the USA amends the constitution to remove the born-here loophole? If both parents are in the USA illegally, then the child doesn't gain US citizenship. I looked up citizenship by parentage - almost every country in the world accepts this as a "right." They would not be born without a country. Very few countries give citizenship just based on the location of birth. It was a smart thing prior to 100 years ago for the USA, but times have changed and undesirable consequences are occurring due to this outdated law-of-the-land. Time to fix it.
He could say it, but it only means anything if Congress passes it into law.
The truth is that all men having power ought to be mistrusted. James Madison
You really should change where you're getting your news. It's deranging you.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
Allen asked Trump to address the legal status of illegal aliens. Immigrants have a legal status, illegal aliens do not.
There is no "-1 offended" or "-1 you don't agree with me" mod options for a reason.
You trust someone because you consider him trustworthy.
And not because of his opinion.
Who cares who is marrying whom? It does not affect your life at the slightest.
Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
So in 2024, when Trump is on his way out, I hope you will also support the wiretapping and surveillance of the Democratic electoral campaign, because Iâ(TM)m pretty sure foreign powers (not just Russia) will be âoeinterferingâ in that election as well. Shitting your pants yet? Youâ(TM)ve made your bed, now sleep in it.
I agree with him about the illegals and H1Bs.
But seriously, he is dead wrong about tariffs. China not only manipulates their money against the dollar, but has loads of tariffs against imports, esp. against the west. It is best that we raise tariffs on similar areas. For example, they have LARGE tariffs against cars from the west. We need to raise tariffs on cars and car parts from CHina. And it should ramped up monthly over several years, not just simply be slapped out like he is doing. This way, either CHina can decide to be honest and work for true free trade (i.e. keep their agreements that they are breaking), or let car makers know that their imported parts are about to become EXPENSIVE. i.e. move the manufacturing out of china.
If Trump takes that approach, China can then decide what to do.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
Nah. We learned from you guys. Anything good that comes we will credit Trump and anything bad well blame on what he inherited from the previous administration.
Heck, this strategy worked for 8 YEARS for Obama
The previous attempts didn't work. Let's see where Trump's plan takes us. I don't like tariffs either. But it's better than doing nothing and watching our economy tank to China.
"A plan fiendishly clever in its intricacies"- Homer Simpson
Sound like fake news commie propaganda to me.
Citation needed.
Obama said he believed it wasn't a RIGHT.
Nice strawmen tho. Seriously a +4? 75% of the shit he said is taken out of context.
This is why we can't trust the news anymore. Everything is taken out of context to fit your agenda.
A guy that runs a company with billions in the bank from selling music, cellphone apps, tablets and cellphones wouldn't be my go-to source for opinions on immigration and tarrifs.
Tim Cook got his job when Steve Jobs passed - Tim is an executive (a suit, in /. parlance), yet some how he is held up as some sort of 'Gandalf-like' character, his every utterance worthy of being carved in stone.
I don't care about Tim Cook's opinions on immigration, has Cook ever found himself competing against an illegal immigrant for a job? When your monthly paycheck has two commas in it, you have almost certainly lost touch with the hourly worker whose paychecks don't even have one comma.
Ken
But his alternative facts are just as good as your real facts!
Company that has its super expensive stuff all made in China says tariffs are the wrong approach.
I'm sure he just thinks is bad, not that he is afraid of a 25% tariff on his products.
From the guy who told the EU after the EU told Apple they underpaid taxes to Ireland: you can have taxes or jobs not both.
Fuck Off Tim Cook, you tax cheat.
Only his most unhinged comments go against what his friends at Fox want to hear.
Or in the case of Fox and Freinds, his incessant rambling was what they didn't want to hear. They almost had to cut him off.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
The FBI et al might have been investigating the links between the Trump campaign and Russia, but the only campaign intentionally attacked was Clinton's. Did you forget that?
You know who is more credible that the collective whole of the DNC, the Clinton campaign, and their sympathizers in the intelligence agencies? It's NSA whistleblower William Benny and his associates at the Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity, when they say there's no proof the DNC was hacked.
But sure, pretend the DNC is the problem.
They are the driving force behind this misinformation campaign, and even their namesake is a lie.
Tim Cook didn't declare bankruptcy multiple times.
Tim Cook has an IQ higher than room temperature.
Tim Cook has an opinion many people respect.
Unlike 45 and his Trumpkins.
"Oh my God. This is terrible. This is the end of my Presidency. I'm fucked."; ~ Donald J. Trump
Naa, he listens to people who will earn him and his kids more money.
I hate fat people.
i know it sounds funny, but with more and more automation occurring, and as it occurs people lose jobs. with white collar rule followers losing their jobs to software that runs on rules. and people lose more jobs that support both the blue and white collar folks. So when humanity passes a threshold of machines doing a large percentage of jobs; people will just not be working any more, because the machines are doing them. so while we are all laughing, something is going to have to change. nobody is going to kill the geese that lay the golden eggs, but will the billionaires elite be allowed to adjust our feeding troffs?
Remember -
If you want a leader who thinks you're a deplorable redneck rapist whose job is never coming back - vote Democrat!
If you want a leader who thinks you're a decent normal human being, and is working hard to bring back good jobs for the average worker - vote TRUMP.
True communism can only work with the new kind of human: The kind that prefers working over making money.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Yes I agree, thus DACA
"The war president."
All he did was war.
I object to power without constructive purpose. --Spock
People stopped sending troops home a hundred years ago. Standing armies are so normal and accepted that we do not even debate it. We debate gay marriage though. Progress.
I object to power without constructive purpose. --Spock
So voters only matter when they pick the guy you like?
The shoe will be on the other foot.
Republicans say, "Elections have consequences", but Democrats say, "It doesn't matter. My opponent is brain dead !!"
If democrats and progressives have more to offer than juvenile recess taunts it doesn't make a practical difference because they carry out their agenda as if that's all they had going for them.
Your response reinforces this perception.
and Stalin was a communist. Come on, I'm a Marxist from long back, and even I recognize the issues as issues.
Fidel was at least as murderous as Stalin, he just had a better place to dump the bodies. Stalin only had Siberia, Fidel could dump into the ocean to feed the sharks.
SJW: a person who perceives an injustice, and while correcting it, commits a greater injustice.
In other words, autistics.
SJW: a person who perceives an injustice, and while correcting it, commits a greater injustice.
She started in 2000, not the 90's. Bill also never fucked Lewinsky, he couldn't get it up. You are truly patheticpathetic.
I'm pretty sure Tim Cook would win over Trump in an election.
Again with the currency manipulation? Didn't you learn from all the other times you claimed this nonsense? Show even some slightly credible information to suggest that is in the slightest way relevant.
sure, but it does no good for tesla when the average price / car is around 20K. They want to sell them at 40-50K like its competitors, such as BMW, MB, Lexus, etc., do.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
oh yeah. Your posting is right on. I think that Trump needs to go further than what he did. Right now, I get the funny sense that he is trying to pull a fast one, rather than stop CHina from doing their garbage to America.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
China remains the biggest single market for all three of the German premium brands, as well as for mass-market producers like Volkswagen's namesake marque.
All German luxury cars sell higher volumes in China than the US.
There is clearly a market for luxury cars in China. Even Tesla expects China to be it's biggest market in the future.
So you agree with me that America having a 25% import tax on SUV's, light trucks etc in America, is worse than China's much smaller 10% tax on parts like engines? And he tried to pull a fast one by not mentioning it to his gullible supporters. German companies seem to have no problem selling cars in China. Maybe America just design cars Chinese people don't like.
Be fair, I'm a Vermin Supreme voter.
He promised me a pony if he won.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
A term used by the descendants of European invaders to refer to the descendants of native inhabitants. Inhabitants to whom the USG should pay trillions in restitution for hundreds of years of ethnic cleansing, aparthied, and the Monroe Doctrine.
So you want to enjoy a steady income made possible by living in a first world society, without having to pay for it (civilization isn't free). Just visit the libertarian paradise to see how well you can do without it.
And I'll point out that the US should pay trillions in restitution for centuries of the Monroe Doctrine, and extradite pretty much every high level State Department and CIA official to stand trial. Aside from overthrowing pretty much every country in latin america, you also bankrupted millions of Mexican farmers with NAFTA and turned their country into a violent hell hole with your War on Poor Drug Users.
Of course that's not going to happen, so in the meantime you could STFU and let Miguel sneak across the border to work at a gas station, after a CIA-backed death squad killed his parents.
However you want to rationalize blatant wingnut hypocrisy. You don't have to be as bad as the Democrats that now want a sitting president to resign over a sex scandal.
I suspect that you do not even know what the Monroe Doctrine is,, because I doubt you think that Latin America would be better off if the U.S. had allowed European countries to do the things you claim the U.S. has done in Latin America (which it more or less has).
I would like to point out that the current U.S. government is striving to get rid of NAFTA, while the current Mexican government is fighting to keep it.
The truth is that all men having power ought to be mistrusted. James Madison
That is not a star trek universe. In the trek everyone does whatever they want because resources are unlimited. We dont have that.
The future is seemingly more along the lines of Larry Niven (a short story IIRC) where machines do all the work.... but to keep the economy going people have to consume more and more. So much so that to be 'rich' is to live frugally where ever you want, but the poor have to live (s)lavishly always consuming more and more to keep up with the robots output.
Job's quote doesn't change the fact Apple already had ten times as much liquid assets as the $150 million investment from Microsoft:
Aside from that pile of money, Apple could have sold some of their real estate or their vast patent portfolio if they had to. They didn't have to.
until resources are consumed. Or unless someone invents Star Trek's Replicator technology. Then robots will be firmly obsolete. which has me humming the melody sung by Belinda Carlisle's "Heaven Is A Place On Earth" My apologies to the Black Mirror.