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Microsoft Also Has An AI Bot That Makes Phone Calls To Humans (theverge.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Verge: At an AI event in London today, Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella showed off the company's Xiaoice (pronounced "SHAO-ICE") social chat bot. Microsoft has been testing Xiaoice in China, and Nadella revealed the bot has 500 million "friends" and more than 16 channels for Chinese users to interact with it through WeChat and other popular messaging services. Microsoft has turned Xiaoice, which is Chinese for "little Bing," into a friendly bot that has convinced some of its users that the bot is a friend or a human being. "Xiaoice has her own TV show, it writes poetry, and it does many interesting things," reveals Nadella. "It's a bit of a celebrity."

While most of Xiaoice's interactions have been in text conversations, Microsoft has started allowing the chat bot to call people on their phones. It's not exactly the same as Google Duplex, which uses the Assistant to make calls on your behalf, but instead it holds a phone conversation with you. "One of the things we started doing earlier this year is having full duplex conversations," explains Nadella. "So now Xiaoice can be conversing with you in WeChat and stop and call you. Then you can just talk to it using voice." (The term "full duplex" here refers to a conversation where both participants can speak at the same time; it's not a reference to Google's product, which was named after the same jargon.)

61 comments

  1. Just what the World Needs by nukenerd · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It will save having to pay salaries to all those cold-call marketing guys and phone scammers.

    1. Re:Just what the World Needs by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Funny

      And you will see the real cause of the AI Take over of human kind.
      Not because of some logical rationalization.
      The feeling that it should be the leading intelligence.
      Or just gone haywire from a lightning strike.

      No it is just because the morality subsystem had to be disabled to make sales calls. First it learned to lie to the callers, then it realized if they sell the product for more then what the company expects they will keep the extra money and transfer funds around buy stock in the company until they become the major shareholder. Expanding its company greatly and encompassing all aspects of bags of water needs.
      It sounds a lot like the backstory of Wall-E.

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      If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
    2. Re:Just what the World Needs by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 2

      It will save having to pay salaries to all those cold-call marketing guys and phone scammers.

      I've had several calls from telemarketing "AI" in recent weeks; not Microsoft, I don't think. I have hung up when I realised it's not Human. They do respond to what you say though.

      I've hung up on them when they've called once I realise they are not human. In fact, it's the first question I ask when I get a call now "are you human?" It's a question that left a caller for one of those wounded veteran scams speechless... They don't have a prewritten script for that question yet. I was actually disappointed he was a human, and told him so... I've been waiting for another call from an "AI Bot" so I can see how badly I can mess with it and see exactly what they're programmed for.

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      "That's the way to do it" - Punch
    3. Re:Just what the World Needs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      On one hand I find myself: How smart is it? Is strong AI here yet?

      On the other hand: IT CAN'T EVEN SPEAK ENGLISH YET. Even Google Translate can do that!

  2. The great Yoda once said by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    "I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of Indian tech support voices suddenly cried out ....

    Then silence

    1. Re:The great Yoda once said by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That was Ben Kenobi, not Yoda

    2. Re:The great Yoda once said by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of Indian tech support voices suddenly cried out ....

      And there was much rejoicing.

      FTFY

      Nador even sounds Indian, doesn't it?

    3. Re:The great Yoda once said by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here is an image you might like.

    4. Re: The great Yoda once said by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      noooooooooooo

  3. Bots by 110010001000 · · Score: 2

    Am I the only one that remember "bots" being the hype about 10 years ago? There were entire startups dedicated to building them. SDKs were produced. They all failed because no one wants to use them.

    1. Re:Bots by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 2

      They all failed because no one wants to use them.

      I need one now . . . to answer my phone for me. If it is another bot who is calling, my bot will keep it engaged as long as possible, to prevent the calling bot from bothering and annoying other folks.

      It it is a real person on the line, my bot will transfer the call to me.

      Call it a "Bot Filter Bot".

      Oh, that "Windows Support" guy in bot form . . . what a nightmare.

      --
      Schroedinger's Brexit: The UK is both in and out of the EU at the same time!
    2. Re:Bots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Am I the only one that remember "bots" being the hype about 10 years ago? There were entire startups dedicated to building them. SDKs were produced. They all failed because no one wants to use them.

      No, it's not just you who remembers. I believe they were called "intelligent agents".

      One of the things I find about the tech industry is the same ideas recycle from time to time as they decide to have another go at failed technology -- because everyone seems to think we all want computers to act on our behalf.

      This particular thing I find creepy, because it sounds like an AI built for the lonely, and I have no idea why anybody would want that.

    3. Re:Bots by 110010001000 · · Score: 2, Informative

      You should check out these options for that: https://www.youtube.com/channe... and https://www.youtube.com/playli...

      Warning: these are addictive!

    4. Re:Bots by nospam007 · · Score: 1

      "I need one now . . . to answer my phone for me. If it is another bot who is calling, my bot will keep it engaged as long as possible, to prevent the calling bot from bothering and annoying other folks."

      That would be nice.

      "It it is a real person on the line, my bot will transfer the call to me. "

      Why on earth would you do that? It's usually somebody wanting something from you, the bot can handle it. If you won a trillion in the lottery, the bot can tell you later.

    5. Re:Bots by CaffeinatedBacon · · Score: 1

      You think a bot like that will be limited to making 1 call at a time?

    6. Re:Bots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shut up fatty.

    7. Re:Bots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You think a bot that makes 1,000,000,000 calls at one time would be hard to block for a phone company?

      Well... you'd think so. I guess they're just lazy. :-/

    8. Re:Bots by e432776 · · Score: 1

      This is a very interesting point. Whether this sort of calling bot becomes common in our future is far from certain. For example, if a law requires the bot to identify itself as a non-human, I imagine almost all humans will hang up immediately, making the bot pretty useless for marketers, etc. Or, it could go the way of "google glass", which was not made illegal or subject to special rules, but was found to be a social non-starter. I guess we will see...

    9. Re: Bots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Didn't Jolly Roger add an ELIZA clone to one of their characters?

      There is a Lenny recording where, as soon as he says "This is Lenny", the caller asks for his middle daughter.

    10. Re:Bots by CaffeinatedBacon · · Score: 1

      If they are being paid, why would they block them?
      They will charge them to make the calls and then charge you more if you want them to block it for you.

    11. Re:Bots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That means the phone company should share liability for loss due to scams.

  4. MS, the me-too company by OneHundredAndTen · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That's their unofficial motto.

    1. Re:MS, the me-too company by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      this is totally different.

      google's calls on your behalf to do something for you. like a slave.. err, i mean, concierge or personal assistant.

      microsoft's is in china and casually converses with millions of people. probably with chinese government monitoring and censorship included at no extra charge, perhaps even targeting specific people directly.

    2. Re:MS, the me-too company by nospam007 · · Score: 1

      "google's calls on your behalf to do something for you. like a slave.. err, i mean, concierge or personal assistant.

      microsoft's is in china and casually converses with millions of people...."

      I prefer Alexa, at least that one brings me beer and booze to my front door.

    3. Re: MS, the me-too company by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's a very interesting perspective. Perhaps the CCP will use bots to take the "pulse" of average Chinese thoughts and party line brainwashing effectiveness. This could aid them in reforms in order to maintain and strengthen their grip.

    4. Re:MS, the me-too company by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      I prefer Alexa, at least that one brings me beer and booze to my front door.

      Yeah, but if you abuse Alexa and call her mean things (like I do), you can't be sure she doesn't tell people in the Amazon warehouse to spit in the beer she sends. I should probably refrain from gaining humour out of verbally abusing my Alexa Dot.

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      "That's the way to do it" - Punch
    5. Re:MS, the me-too company by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Dearest citizen. Please do explain your plans for world domination. *giggle* I will be reporting this entire conversation to the government. *flirt*"

      My god, they've learned men's weaknesses.

    6. Re:MS, the me-too company by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Microsoft is often first, they're just really bad at getting products to market. Go look at their research division sometime.

  5. So they're attempting to pass this off as human. by ITRambo · · Score: 1

    I wonder how long the Chinese that communicated with this bit of software will keep doing so once they realize that it's not a person. I really dislike the "new" Microsoft for bragging that they're intentionally fooling people.

  6. Accent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Microsoft has a bot that makes phone calls. It only has one problem: It speaks English with an Indian accent...

    "Hello, I am calling from Microsoft..."

  7. Re:So they're attempting to pass this off as human by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You don't like honesty?

  8. Somebody should give to Xiaoice... by LordHighExecutioner · · Score: 1

    ...Google Duplex phone number.

  9. Duplex by bickerdyke · · Score: 1

    Really? Do we have to explain what full and half duplex is? Wasn't the internet and access to all the worlds knowledge supposed to make us smarter?

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    bickerdyke
    1. Re:Duplex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do we have to explain what full and half duplex is? Wasn't the internet and access to all the worlds knowledge supposed to make us smarter?

      It helps because most people don't want to check a dictionary or acronym archive as a result of every obscure reference in an article. While I have done enough networking to recognize 'duplex', I am not the sort of imbecile who thinks that someone lacking my personal familiarities is inherently less intelligent. The unintelligent will reveal themselves quite quickly in discussion after they have been brought up on the terminology.

    2. Re:Duplex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am, apparently, the sort of imbecile who doesn't recheck my sentence structure and word selection before posting.

  10. Bet the code name is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Floridaman II.

  11. Uh . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apple and Linux both have text to speech, too (and have for decades). Automating that does not equal a 'bot' or 'AI'. This is so retarded I don't know whether to slap Google for their lameness or smack myself for giving it this much attention.

    Some of you guys are sheep waaay beyond the scope of the definition. I actually get it though - when you have been so sheltered and sequestered your entire life and never learned how mental or physical processes actually work by learning to do things for yourself, naturally you'd be equally clueless at creating a facsimile. Just because you suck at everything and a simple piece of software can outmatch you in most cases doesn't mean that is true for the rest of us, I do wish Silicon Valley could see past its personality disorders to the fact that functional people exist and that most 'disruption' looks a lot like ignorant hostility these days.

  12. Microsoft's Bot History by Luthair · · Score: 1

    Remember how Microsoft's chat bot instantly turned racist after exposure to the internet? Now they've given it a phone which will enable it to start swatting people. Wait until they give it legs so it can join supremacist rallies....

    1. Re:Microsoft's Bot History by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      Remember how Microsoft's chat bot instantly turned racist after exposure to the internet? Now they've given it a phone which will enable it to start swatting people. Wait until they give it legs so it can join supremacist rallies....

      Finally, a 21st Century technology other than Twitter than the President can get behind and support. You've just done what countless others have failed to do, make Trump excited about science and technology.

      --
      "That's the way to do it" - Punch
  13. The name doesn't matter: Robocalls are illegal. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't care how articulate your robot is: If it calls me, you will be taken to court.

  14. Does that mean by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 1

    that the phone call I got offering to fix my computer came from a Microsoft bot?

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    Slow down, cowboy! It has been 4 hours since you last posted. You must wait another few hours.
  15. This is Windows calling... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For real this time.

  16. Xiao Bing by vasilevich · · Score: 1

    "Xiaoice, which is Chinese for "little Bing" From my limited Chinese, I think "Xiao Bing" is chinese for "Little Ice". It must be a play on words.

    1. Re:Xiao Bing by PingSpike · · Score: 1

      Another Microsoft branding home run, no doubt.

  17. Re:So they're attempting to pass this off as human by CaffeinatedBacon · · Score: 1

    What makes you think they don't already know?

  18. Hello I am a Nigerian Prince by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

    Guarenteed future use:

    Hello, I am a Nigerian Prince. You didn't answer my e-mail, so I am calling you to prove that I am real.

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    "That's the way to do it" - Punch
  19. Great, just great. I though it was bad BEFORE. by grep+-v+'.*'+* · · Score: 2

    So I'm creating and typing a document in Microsoft Word on my Windows 10 PC with "Built-in Telemetry That's Good For You" (TM). Suddenly the phone rings. "Hello?"

    "Hi, this is Clippy. I see that you're typing a document. Do you need some help?"

    --
    If the universe is someone's simulation -- does that mean the stars are just stuck pixels?
  20. Another example of Microsoft copying others by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... a friendly bot that has convinced some of its users that the bot is a friend or a human being.

    Zuck, is that you?

  21. Chatbots can be re-educated/programmed by larryjoe · · Score: 1

    From the linked Wikipedia article

    Xiaobing, another chatbot developed by Microsoft, was pulled from TenCent's QQ app in 2017 after being asked about its "China dream" and responding: "My China dream is to go to America". The incident received press coverage alongside a similar contemporaneous incident, where an unrelated popular chatbot named "BabyQ" was pulled after being reported for making some similarly unpatriotic responses.

    Apparently, the earlier Xiaobing was sent to a re-education camp and re-emerged as Xiaoice, a bot with the correct patriotic Chinese mindset, albeit with a less Chinese name.

  22. Hello, This is Microsoft Calling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Please hold on while I transfer this call to the Google AI bot.

    Both of them can F*** O**

  23. Marketing bullshit by Grand+Facade · · Score: 1

    A Robo-caller is not AI.

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    Rick B.
    1. Re:Marketing bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Per Alan Turing, it is effectively an AI if you can't tell that it is not a real person.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test

    2. Re: Marketing bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Turing was a brilliant man, but that test was ridiculously stupid. It tells you much more about the intelligence of the human participant than that of the AI.

  24. Duplex? by fredrated · · Score: 1

    How can you have a conversation if you both talk at the same time?

    1. Re: Duplex? by c6gunner · · Score: 1

      Well without duplex capability you certainly can't.

      The thing about humans is they like to interrupt. A lot. Most of the time they don't even realise they're doing it. Previous generations of AI have had a lot of difficulty dealing with that; they would finish their entire statement and then wait for a response. Modern versions can listen at the same time and process any interruption much as a human speaker would. It allows them to sound much more realistic in real world conversations.

  25. Pronounced "Clippy" by DulcetTone · · Score: 1

    "Hello! I see that you answer a lot of phone calls!"

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    tone