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First Cuba, Now China? A Worker In US Embassy In China Experienced 'Abnormal' Sounds, Brain Damage (reuters.com)
amxcoder writes: An American citizen working at a U.S. consulate located in the Chinese city of Guangzhou has reported experiencing "abnormal" sounds (and pressures) for the past several months, starting in late 2017 until April of 2018. Upon medical evaluation, the worker has been diagnosed with mild traumatic brain injury symptoms. The U.S. embassy is conducting an investigation into the issue, and is issuing warnings to all U.S. citizens in China. The symptoms and several other similarities has drawn comparison to a similar event last year in a different U.S. embassy in Cuba. Officials can not link the two events together at this point, but the U.S. State Department is working with Chinese authorities to investigate the issue further. As a result of the Cuba acoustic "attacks," the U.S. government in October expelled 15 Cuban diplomats from the U.S. for what it said was Cuba's failure to protect staff at the U.S. embassy in Havana. Staff there reported symptoms including hearing loss, dizziness, fatigue, and cognitive issues. Canadian personnel also reported similar health symptoms.
The embassy in Cuba was renovated in the '70's and has ultrasonic alarms of that vintage. The sound of more than one of them intermodulating with each other (a harmless effect) would be exactly as reported.
The problem with these reports is that the U.S. has been intensively monitoring for various forms of sound, radio waves, radiation, etc. since the Great Seal Bug. And you've got to be skeptical about anything that all of the intelligence and military agencies of the great and powerful USA can't detect.
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why u racist?
Clearly US embassies are haunted. ;)
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Damn, son! You didn't even post as an AC!
You're messin' with my Zen Thing, man.....
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I posted that to another story...
It seems to me that the common factor is that they work at a US Embassy. Presumably, these are stocked with a variety of high tech equipment both to enable and prevent spying. Is it possible that there is some undesirable interaction of this equipment? The alternative, that someone is targetting US officials in disparate parts of the world with a bizarre ultrasonic non-lethal weapon seems somewhat less likely in the absence of any evidence for either scenario.
The case of Cuba is a bull shit invented by Trumps friends in order to break relations with cuba!
At first I thought it was poisoning or an illness or at the most high tech, a microwave beam (but surely there are detectors for that in an embassy building, right?)
Now I am beginning to suspect mass hysteria instead.
Captcha: alcohol (tinnitus from too much loud music and alcohol at entertainment venues?)
Wow, you are quite the racist.
Russia did not pull the trigger - they gave a powerful weapon to untrained rebels who did pull the trigger. The distinction is minor - but relevant.
If Russia was operating the AA missiles MH17 would probably be intact. The Russian military is well trained and would verify the identity of a plane before firing. The rebels - not so much. Giving AA missiles to the rebels is like giving a BB gun to a 10 year old --- do not be surprised when you find a pile of dead birds with BB shaped holes in them.
After MH17 was brought down, the AA missiles were withdrawn back to Russia. This is a sign that Russia is embarrassed by what happened and was taking steps to prevent it from happening again. Too little too late... After this there was an increase in Russian military activity - probably due to the fact they could not trust the rebels to do the job for them.
So Russia is to blame but they did not pull the trigger. Giving the AA missiles to the rebels was probably a political decision that had nothing to do with the military. I imagine that, at the time, the Russian generals did not approve of the decision and were probably not surprised by the result.
And a note regarding Russians looting the victims --- it did not happen. The looting was from the local rebels. Basically gangs of undisciplined assholes tasked with driving out anyone who did not speak Russian. Once again, the Russians facilitated this behavior and are partially responsible, but they did not do it.
Officials can not link the two events together at this point
Of course they can. The obvious link is US itself!
Project much?
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ok then, Adolf.
Takes one to know one. Russonazi.
There's a lot of talk of explanations, but I've yet to hear anyone blame this on anything supernatural. Yeah, yeah, it's 2018, but it's good to think that science is pervasive enough that nobody blames it on witches or demons or ghosts or something. From a historic standpoint it wasn't too long ago they'd be calling a priest in.
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I wonder if any of the affected people have any metal tooth fillings.
Nullius in verba
microwave auditory effect
Staff there reported symptoms including hearing loss, dizziness, fatigue, and cognitive issues
So lawyers, poli-sci grads, international studies grads :
- Are noticed to be misinterpreting everything they hear in a way that seems like they are suffering hearing loss
- Are dizzy after lunch and dinner... maybe having a little bit of trouble walking a straight line, can't touch their noses, etc...
- Appear to be lazy as shit and are hoping people will believe they have fatigue?
- Have cognitive issues... I mean beyond the aforementioned being a lawyer, poli-sci/international studies grad...
I seriously don't see how this isn't a bigger problem in all embassies around the world.
Is it possible this has always been the case but now, they're in a communist country and want to blame it on that?
Audio attack? This has supposedly been happening for months (in Cuba). The very first thing any competent investigator would do is put microphones on the 'targets', to confirm the hypothesis of audio attack, to start understanding where and how the attacks are taking place, and to have evidence to present to the world that the attacks are real. I've seen no claims of there being such evidence. (I'm not perfect, so if I've missed something in the news, I'm happy to be corrected.)
On the other hand, the mass hysteria hypothesis explains the known facts very well - except that we have to also assume US State Department incompetence, given that they expelled diplomats over this.
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Do conspirators trying to get a candidate elected normally release information deleterious to their preferred candidate right before the vote?
Considering that it's quite easy to record (even high frequency) sound, this is just plain silly.
Either there was 'sound' and they recorded it or there wasn't.
We know its high gain masers...
Putin and his fascist bum buddies
Those are maybe fewer than 100 people among 144 million other Russians. Saying that is racist is much like saying Clinton opponents are sexist because they refer her as a 'woman'.
No doubt, Stalin did win the war in Europe. If you want to use a hyperbole here you could say that he had more disposable soldiers than the enemy had bullets. Without Stalin's push into Germany the war would probably have raged on for some time, costing claiming the lives of more people in combat. But the Nazis would have been defeated eventually.
But with Stalin in central Europe it required the presence of another super power - the US - to keep him at bay. Otherwise Stalin would have turned all of Europe into the Soviet Union and raped the crap out of everything. Stalin certainly wasn't stupid when he started his counter offense against Germany. When the Nazis turned against Russia he knew that this wasn't Hitler's act of triumph, like he wished for in 'Mein Kampf', but rather an act of desperation. He was aware that the rest of Europe was ravaged by the war and ready for taking by a force that was large enough to occupy everything. You think the UK would have been able to hold Stalin back? Or their peace treaty with Finland would have stopped him? You can ask Poland how well their Treaty of Riga played out.
Maybe Stalin was better to suffer under than Hitler, because the former only wanted to have more slaves instead of exterminating you, but neither of them were exactly good for Europe. It's a bit like if you were a black guy that's held hostage by the KKK and then ISIS comes along and beats the KKK. Sure, ISIS is not going to kill you just because of your skin colour, but they're still going to kill you if you do convert to their religion.
This is starting to look a lot like something that America is doing in its embassies, at least in "non-allied" countries. Maybe some leakage from something aimed at the host country's infrastructure
Without Stalin's push into Germany the war would probably have raged on for some time
Not sure I agree with you, there.
While I do agree that it would have gone on for some time without an eastern front, by the time the Soviets pushed into Germany, the writing was on the wall for the Germans, and it was simply a race between which front would slam into Berlin first.
The Soviet push did cost Nazi Germany a lot. I can imagine that it would have lasted until the completion of the first atom bombs which might have been dropped over some larger cities in Germany. Which is a likely scenario if the Russians hadn't already made it into Berlin and other parts of the country. Of course that would also make the progress of the war in Asia a lot more interesting.
My general point being that Hitler would have lost anyway. If it wasn't for the Soviets, Europe would not speak German and probably a lot fewer people would speak Russian. Stalin did not come to save Europe from the Nazis and give people freedom, he wanted it for himself.
If Germans forces wouldn't get tied up on eastern front they would be able to make any sort of allied landing in Europe an impossibility. Thus the war would end in stalemate, since German actions against Britain on its home island weren't very successful either and they were so mostly due to situation in air and sea, something that early soviet defeat would do little to change.
Germany had lots of restrictions regarding their army due to WWI, Staling made pact with Hitler and supported him military and let German troupes be trained in Russia, then together they partitioned Poland. Hitler and Stalin were cooperating till 1941, so I would be quite resistant to give Stalin any credit.
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Some of the affected people say the sound resembles "Yanny", while other swear it sounds more like "Laurel".
Sounds like you have your own Xenophobia liberal.
Definitely not an impossibility. Just would have taken longer.
The western allies had air superiority, and the number of German cities that still had functioning war production was dropping every day. In the end, it was an economic fight that they could not win. I'm not banging the 'Murica drum here- the fact is simply that we had more money and people and production. We weren't going to lose the war of attrition, they were.
We could inflict losses on them faster than they could replace them, they could not do the same. Not even close.
The eastern front sped things up, but it didn't save us from a stalemate.
Ultimately, though, I said the eastern front is what helped- not the push into Germany. By the time the Soviets pushed into Germany, the Germans were well and fully fucked and their military capacity was collapsing at an irreversible rate.
Sounds like we don't actually disagree, I was just adding nuance.
I maintain the Germans were already done, even if the Soviets had never gone west of Poland. The fight in the USSR/Poland combined with overwhelming allied air superiority and carpet bombing in Germany proper completely depleted their war machine's production capacity.
And of course the world's biggest aircraft carrier stationed right off of Europe- Britain
Well, allied landing only happened when Germany's defeat was imminent. This pretty much means that if things worked out the other way they would never land. Instead they'd be content to let axis have entire Eurasia while keeping Africa and rest of world for themselves. Attrition works both ways and they wouldn't risk fighting Germany in Europe considering that there's little to gain by this.
Multiple whitenoise generators / ultrasound generators - Wasnt that the verdict discovered a while back? I'm sure I read that somewhere.
Wasnt that being used in Cuba? Two different teams setting up protection equipment in the same office sending off inaudible sounds. Since there were two they created worse interference that was undetectable to the ear.
Sounds like the same two idiots.
I suspect that these symptoms are not the result of something external, such as ultrasound, subsonic sound, RF, etc., but rather some kind of poisoning due to what they have ingested. For example, some crappy embassy coffee, or crappy embassy liquor, or crappy embassy ibuprofen pills. Or even bad air due to crappy materials used in remodeling.
According to Tom Clancy's spy books, even 30 years ago embassies were allegedly wrapped in all sorts of physical and electronic shielding in order to block eavesdropping attempts.
I agree with other posters that it seems more likely that the U.S. has done this too themselves, either deliberately or accidentally. They're just too arrogant to be able to admit it, possibly even to themselves.
Erm... it was chem trails, no, ermm... brainwashing, no, ermm... those weather stations near the North Pole, ermm... no, it was an acoustic attack! Have Massive Attack actually ever done an MTV Unplugged performance?
Another "sonic" microwave radiation story.
Obama is a race now?