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Why No One Answers Their Phone Anymore (theatlantic.com)

An anonymous reader shares an excerpt from a report via The Atlantic, written by Alexis C. Madrigal: No one picks up the phone anymore. Even many businesses do everything they can to avoid picking up the phone. Of the 50 or so calls I received in the last month, I might have picked up four or five times. The reflex of answering -- built so deeply into people who grew up in 20th-century telephonic culture -- is gone. There are many reasons for the slow erosion of this commons. The most important aspect is structural: There are simply more communication options. Text messaging and its associated multimedia variations are rich and wonderful: words mixed with emoji, Bitmoji, reaction gifs, regular old photos, video, links. Texting is fun, lightly asynchronous, and possible to do with many people simultaneously. It's almost as immediate as a phone call, but not quite. You've got your Twitter, your Facebook, your work Slack, your email, FaceTimes incoming from family members. So many little dings have begun to make the rings obsolete.

But in the last couple years, there is a more specific reason for eyeing my phone's ring warily. Perhaps 80 or even 90 percent of the calls coming into my phone are spam of one kind or another. [...] There are unsolicited telemarketing calls. There are straight-up robocalls that merely deliver recorded messages. There are the cyborg telemarketers, who sit in call centers playing prerecorded bits of audio to simulate a conversation. There are the spam phone calls, whose sole purpose seems to be verifying that your phone number is real and working.

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  1. I don't understand why you tolerate it by VMaN · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I just don't understand how you can have spam calls like that and be ok with it. Is it an american thing?
    Do people think that proper laws to outlaw that behaviour is some sort of free speech issue?

    1. Re:I don't understand why you tolerate it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I just don't understand how you can have spam calls like that and be ok with it.

      We DO have laws against these sorts of spam calls in the US. We also have laws against people sending email spam too. Actually managing to enforce these laws is a different matter entirely.

      Is it an american thing? Do people think that proper laws to outlaw that behaviour is some sort of free speech issue?

      Umm, what? Criminals are going to break the law...that's what criminals do. The problem is enforcement of the laws that already exist.

    2. Re:I don't understand why you tolerate it by VMaN · · Score: 5, Insightful

      > We DO have laws against these sorts of spam calls in the US. We also have laws against people sending email spam too. Actually managing to enforce these laws is a different matter entirely.

      No, it's really easy when it comes to phone calls - Got an illegal spam call? Report and person gets a hefty fine. Can't identify caller? Move punishment to the company that provides the call. Done.
      There is no reason for someone dialling YOU to be anonymous to your telcom provider.
      And no, there is no reason to make exceptions for any category of calls, be it political or non-profit.

    3. Re:I don't understand why you tolerate it by Type44Q · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I just don't understand how you can have spam calls like that and be ok with it.

      I try to make the most of it: I ask them all about the area that their number shows them to be calling from ("Bruce" with an Indian accent apparently resides in Idaho).

      I'll string them along for as long as I possibly can, giving them ever-varying versions of my "social security number" as I "struggle to remember it," etc, etc, until they give up in frustration.

      The skies the limit, here; this is a sport with few rules.

    4. Re:I don't understand why you tolerate it by arth1 · · Score: 2

      We have laws against rape and murder and all kind of other things but they do no good. Understand?

      I don't get raped twice a night, five times on weekends.
      By and large, rape is under control - when it happens, it's terrible, but it is not a great risk and worry for most people. Most of us don't go home and think "I hope I don't get raped or murdered today".

      It's not like there are rare occurrences of unsolicited phone calls coming through, hitting people once in a lifetime. It's prevalent, and enough so that, as TFA says, people don't pick up their phone anymore. Each occurrence isn't a terrible experience for most people (except shift workers or those waiting for a call from a hospital), but the sheer amount is what makes it a serious problem, cumulatively.

      Add that most of them are illegal scams too, or politicians who have exempted themselves from do-not-call lists. I.e. crooks in both cases.

    5. Re:I don't understand why you tolerate it by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      > We DO have laws against these sorts of spam calls in the US. We also have laws against people sending email spam too. Actually managing to enforce these laws is a different matter entirely.

      No, it's really easy when it comes to phone calls - Got an illegal spam call? Report and person gets a hefty fine. Can't identify caller? Move punishment to the company that provides the call. Done. There is no reason for someone dialling YOU to be anonymous to your telcom provider. And no, there is no reason to make exceptions for any category of calls, be it political or non-profit.

      That would work real well when it is sone off shore call center using VOIP and spoofing phone numbers. Spammers / scammers seem to like to use the same area code and first 3 digits to make calls appear local. My solution is to simply let al calls go to voicemail unless I recognize the caller. I get very few spam voicemails.

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    6. Re:I don't understand why you tolerate it by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yup, the only real issue is the reluctance to hold the telecoms accountable.

      Ya, but I'm sure Ajit Pai will get right on that. :-)

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    7. Re:I don't understand why you tolerate it by MoarSauce123 · · Score: 2

      Laws are in place, but enforcing them is close to impossible. There are so many robocallers who operate VoIP calls from outside the US. With nationwide unlimited plans common making 10,000 calls a day is no extra cost. Phone number spoofing makes things even more difficult, because folks think it is a local call and the robocallers can easily disguise their origin. This has nothing to do with free speech. It all has to do with the fact that it is dirt cheap to annoy thousand people and have a a few dozen of them fall for the scam. Rinse and repeat. The fix for this is rather unpopular: start charging for each connection made. Once it will cost 5 cents or so for making the phone on the other end ring (no charge for reaching a busy line) the issue of robocalls goes away.

      Another aspect is that people like asynchronous communications. That is why email is still widely popular and messaging services retain messages until they are read. We typically have other things to do than jump on a conversation that someone else wants to have right now. Being more and more in less than private environments can also play a role. Does anyone really want to discuss medical issues or financial plans in an open office setting?

    8. Re:I don't understand why you tolerate it by hawguy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      > We DO have laws against these sorts of spam calls in the US. We also have laws against people sending email spam too. Actually managing to enforce these laws is a different matter entirely.

      No, it's really easy when it comes to phone calls - Got an illegal spam call? Report and person gets a hefty fine. Can't identify caller? Move punishment to the company that provides the call. Done.
      There is no reason for someone dialling YOU to be anonymous to your telcom provider.
      And no, there is no reason to make exceptions for any category of calls, be it political or non-profit.

      Aside from the political and charity calls, the vast majority of the remainder are from call center operations outside of US jurisdiction. The operate from Canada, India, etc .. any where with good internet connectivity ( VoIP service ) and simple pick currently unassigned phone numbers to spoof (some of the really evil ones
      will use the number they are calling for the caller id).

      So what you have is a situation with many, many technical workarounds and very little legal recourse. There isn't an international treaty that bans unsolicited phone calls , just like their isn't on that bans unsolicited email. Its all local or national which is simply avoided by working from outside the jurisdiction.

      If the telcos were on the hook for unidentified spam callers, they'd wouldn't allow it to be so easy to spoof caller iD.

    9. Re: I don't understand why you tolerate it by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Insightful

      As others have pointed out how would you punish a company overseas? They are beyond jurisdiction of your country's laws.

      Solution: Don't allow non-conforming companies to connect to the American telecom network.

      Why should MY phone company (T-Mobile) be allowed to let a foreign company connect to their network and spoof a LOCAL number?

      If T-Mobile pays a fine every time that happens, they will find a technical solution really quickly.

    10. Re:I don't understand why you tolerate it by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 2

      The biggest thing we need to do about rape is fund processing rape kits. Those are rapists (and murderers) who would be taken off the streets if we would just process the kits. About a hundred million would clear every kit in every city in the united stated and prevent a lot of further crimes.

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    11. Re: I don't understand why you tolerate it by orlanz · · Score: 3, Informative

      We do punish the companies and many times the individuals behind them. The fines are ridiculously high compared to the income. This is why there is very little domestic spamming. But there is an idiot born every minute who will be the fall guy for the off shore party.

      The underlying problem is the lucrativity of the US market and the slow pace the human part of the system moves to catch these offenders. How do you catch an off shore company that springs up, makes a few million calls, and then closes shop; all in less than a month? They are only around till they get paid or start showing up in the complaint registry. Plus they don't need to maintain contact with the sucker; just offload the verbal contact at pennies on the dollar to legal businesses such as timeshares/travel agencies/money laundering scammer/etc.

      If only a few receipants respond, they made their investment. By the time the user complains and enough do and the investigation starts, the originator has moved on leaving fall guys behind.

      Look at the Florida case. 100 million calls over just 3 months. That's how long it took the legal system to pin him. BTW, that is ridiculously fast! Less than 2% of the calls were even interacted with. 98% weren't even picked up; yet the guy minted. He now has a $120 million fine! Many times more than his revenue. Identity tarnished for life.

      But he was just the domestic forwarding agent, using simple off the shelf free software. He accounted for less than 3% of all robocalls! And none of the off shore companies who actually scammed the recipiants were traced nor held accountable. They moved onto another sucker.

      I think the way to stop this is to pollute the system. Pick up, give false information, and move on. Eventually their DBs will have such pointless information that they will be worthless. A few suckers' info that is valid won't help if you can't tell who they are in the table.

    12. Re:I don't understand why you tolerate it by l0n3s0m3phr34k · · Score: 2

      It's trivial to spoof "call from" info. I get calls all the time from numbers that are very close to mine. Same prefix, just switching around the last four numbers, etc. The few time I've answered they are some vacation scam, requests for money from various "law enforcement societies", credit card "offers", etc. One CC call actually told me they "got my info from Experian", IMHO they are admitting they are probably using info from their data leak.

      If I knew Tom King's "private info" (the CISO of Experian), I would pretend to be him and try to get him as many credit cards as possible because it's his fault I'm getting many of these calls.

      I can do fake-ID calls easily with my homebrewed FreePBX / free SIP trunk setup. So just "reporting a number" is the same as "attacking an IP", there is a good chance that the number is fake. And why bother staying on a call to get contact info, when it's a call center in India or such, it's not like anything will happen to the scammers. They are using multiple way of getting these calls through, there is no real "single point of failure" to attack.

    13. Re:I don't understand why you tolerate it by Notabadguy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The skies the limit, here; this is a sport with few rules.

      It is a sport that most of us don't want to play.

    14. Re: I don't understand why you tolerate it by l0n3s0m3phr34k · · Score: 2

      I think the way to stop this is to pollute the system. Pick up, give false information, and move on. If I had it, I'd give them Tom King's info. He's the CISO of Experian, who is one of the companies selling my info to the scammers (they actually told me this...not Tom specifically, but Experian). Or Randall Stephenson, the CEO of AT&T.

    15. Re:I don't understand why you tolerate it by Ryn · · Score: 2

      And this is our problem how exactly? Should we participate in this scam just b/c we feel guilty for the poor 3rd world people?

    16. Re: I don't understand why you tolerate it by c6gunner · · Score: 2

      Absolutely no legitimate international business needs to randomly call tens of thousands of people every day with a faked caller ID from the receiver's area. None.

      Google voice does, for starters. If you use their "one number" feature they wouldn't be able to show you the incoming caller ID without being able to spoof it.

      Just because you don't know about it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

    17. Re:I don't understand why you tolerate it by dcw3 · · Score: 2

      And no, there is no reason to make exceptions for any category of calls, be it political or non-profit.

      Unfortunately, there are exceptions for both.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
      Placing one's number on the National Do Not Call Registry will stop some, but not all, unsolicited calls. The following are exceptions granted by existing laws and regulations—and these types of organizations can register with donotcall.gov and can purchase telephone lists from the Do Not Call Registry[7]

      The registry only applies to personal calls, not to business lines or business to business calls.[8]
      A person may still receive calls from political organizations.
      The organization Citizens for Civil Discourse has lobbied Congress to close this exception by developing a National Political Do Not Call Registry where voters can register their phone numbers and ask politicians to take the "Do Not Contact Pledge". Its database is not backed by the force of law and as of November 2008, only 3 politicians running for office signed the pledge.[9]
      A person may still receive calls from not-for-profit organizations.[10]
      A person may still receive calls from those conducting surveys.
      A person may still receive calls from a company up to 31 days[11] after submitting an application or inquiry to that company, unless the company is specifically asked not to call.
      A person may still receive calls from bill collectors (either primary creditors or collection agencies). These callers are, however, regulated by other laws, such as the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, which limits them to calling during "reasonable hours". Some creditors may not call debtors who file for bankruptcy protection.

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    18. Re:I don't understand why you tolerate it by dcw3 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yup, the only real issue is the reluctance to hold the telecoms accountable.

      Ya, but I'm sure Ajit Pai will get right on that. :-)

      As much as I'd like to string up that jackass, the FTC, not the FCC is who runs the national do not call list.

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    19. Re:I don't understand why you tolerate it by Cederic · · Score: 2

      If the telecoms lost that revenue, they'd need to make it up elsewhere, meaning your monthly phone bill would go up.

      Then why does the UK have far fewer spam calls and also far lower mobile phone tariffs?

      I pay £16/month and get unlimited SMS, unlimited data and 2500 included minutes of voice calls. I have to send MMS messages or make international calls to get additional charges these days.

  2. Generational differences by satsuke · · Score: 2

    Can also be because gen-x and millenial generations are becoming dominant in the workplace.

    My anecdote is my mother who worked as a receptionist and secretary for decades. It's ingrained in her culture not to hang up and to always answer the phone, even though she retired 20 years ago. This includes the obvious scammers from out of country that ask questions about her computer. "My computer is running fine, no I don't think I need to give you that, no thank you, no thank you, no thank you".

    Anymore, 85% ((FTA) of calls are garbage, and with caller ID spoofing running rampant, you really don't know whom to answer that's outside your whitelist / phone book.

  3. The phone companies could fix this! by MikeDataLink · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I never answer calls anymore. 95% of the calls I get are scammers and spammers. And the caller ID is always spoofed to something that looks similar to my own number.

    I've even had people call me claiming my number is spamming them!

    The phone companies should be held liable for not fixing caller ID spoofing. There are numerous ways to do this. Caller ID spoofing is needed for corporate main numbers and the like. Those could be registered just like SSL certs. There is no reason a random device should be allowed to spoof.

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    1. Re:The phone companies could fix this! by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      When looking for a new job I always put on my CV/profile not to call me during office hours. It's a great way to filter crappy recruiters who don't read beyond keyword matches.

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  4. I get the causes, but the results are corrosive by swb · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm 51 and definitely from the generation that always answered the phone.

    I notice as my fellow employees get younger there is much less use of voice calls, with instant messaging and emails being preferred instead. The problem is that these communication methods often seem really inefficient and are as easy to ignore or under-respond to as a phone with a ringer on silent.

    We've had problems crop up with clients and you'd never know what the nature and magnitude of them is when you get short texts like "Do you know about the issue at MZR?"

    Does either response provide any value? I can answer "Yes" without actually knowing because the dumb text made it seem like there was one. I can answer no and what value does that add to the person asking?

    Had they just fucking called we both would have been able to quickly sort out who knew what and who was going to do anything about it.

    1. Re:I get the causes, but the results are corrosive by Jahta · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I'm 51 and definitely from the generation that always answered the phone.

      I notice as my fellow employees get younger there is much less use of voice calls, with instant messaging and emails being preferred instead. The problem is that these communication methods often seem really inefficient and are as easy to ignore or under-respond to as a phone with a ringer on silent.

      We've had problems crop up with clients and you'd never know what the nature and magnitude of them is when you get short texts like "Do you know about the issue at MZR?"

      Does either response provide any value? I can answer "Yes" without actually knowing because the dumb text made it seem like there was one. I can answer no and what value does that add to the person asking?

      Had they just fucking called we both would have been able to quickly sort out who knew what and who was going to do anything about it.

      Well my solution is that I only answer if I recognise the incoming number (family, friends, co-workers and the office). If I don't recognise the number, I let it go to voicemail; if it's important the caller will leave a message and I'll call them back promptly. This way I talk to the people that are important and filter out the rest.

    2. Re:I get the causes, but the results are corrosive by neilo_1701D · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Well my solution is that I only answer if I recognise the incoming number (family, friends, co-workers and the office). If I don't recognise the number, I let it go to voicemail; if it's important the caller will leave a message and I'll call them back promptly. This way I talk to the people that are important and filter out the rest.

      This. 100% this. If you're in my phone's contact list and your name appears on the screen, I'll answer if I can.

      If you leave voicemail, I'll listen.

      If neither of these are true and I have time enough to be curious, the number goes into google to see if it's a hit on any of the "who called me" sites. Otherwise, I use the "block caller" function and I never hear from that number again.

    3. Re:I get the causes, but the results are corrosive by swb · · Score: 2

      A longer text with some description of the nature of the problem would be enormously helpful.

      This kind of passive-aggressive short chatting may work for figuring out if you want to have pizza or drinks later, but it's a massive time sink for business communication.

      And part of the reason a phone call is so much more efficient is that, especially with technical issues, texts get long and cumbersome.

      Telling me about a problem that I may be needed to help with isn't intrusive, it's my job. Short texts actually communicates an assumed level of unimportance to the problem and will likely get shoved further to the back burner.

    4. Re:I get the causes, but the results are corrosive by 0111+1110 · · Score: 2

      Well my solution is that I only answer if I recognise the incoming number (family, friends, co-workers and the office)

      I am the opposite. I only answer the phone if I don't recognize the number because it could be an emergency of some kind. For me that is what voice comms have become: a form of urgent/emergency communication. That loud ringer is like an alarm bell indicating that something is very wrong. Otherwise they would have just texted me. I get very annoyed with friends and family who habitually call me. It is like constantly shouting in my ear. It just makes me want to ignore them. When I pick up I ask, "What happened? What's the emergency? Did someone die? Is someone in the hospital?"

      Before mobiles became ubiquitous and I only had a landline I tried using a cool service my telco had that let me make a whitelist of 10 phone numbers. The phone would only ring if it was from one of those numbers. I thought that was so cool at the time, but it caused problems when I missed important outside calls.

      I don't understand why receiving voice calls is so much more annoying to me now than it was 20 years ago. Now it seems like they are inherently annoying and must have always been so. Maybe it's Pavlovian. Before we were all conditioned that when we hear a phone ringing we pick it up without question. Stimulus-Response. Now that has changed. When I hear my phone ringing I just get steaming mad and wonder what a-hole thinks his time is so valuable that he can't be bothered to send a short text. I only call people after I have texted them. I wouldn't disturb them with a phone call any more than I would just show up at their door unannounced. It seems impolite to me.

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    5. Re:I get the causes, but the results are corrosive by Solandri · · Score: 2

      Otherwise, I use the "block caller" function and I never hear from that number again.

      The problem with the current Caller ID system is that this step doesn't do what you think it does. The number you see the spam call as coming from isn't their real number. It's some random number they've put into their calling device (in many cases spoofed to appear as a local call to you). Blocking it doesn't block the telemarketer, it just blocks some random person who happened to have the number the telemarketers chose to spoof that day.

  5. So it is not only me by irp · · Score: 2

    For me it is more like 95% that is spam. In the rare event I take the call, the caller either just close the connection (probably expecting me to call again at to number that costs money?) or is the Indian "Microsoft Technical Support" (I must have a lot of virus). It can also be a legitimate insurance companies, or callers from red cross etc.

    If I take my phone, I generally just answer with the following line. "No! I am not interested. You may not call this number. Take me off you list". And then I close the line. I do feel it actually started to lower the amount of spam calls after I started saying that.

    But mostly I do NOT answer my phone if I don't know the number, or expects a call. I check my email once a day. At most. Same with SMS. I generally leave my phone at my desk when walking around the office. Same at home.

    It is fascinating to realize that I am more difficult than ever to get a hold on.

  6. Phone spam is the reason by bobstreo · · Score: 3

    My solution?

    If you're not in my contact list, I'm not answering.

    If it's important, leave a message.

    If you call me more than twice and don't leave a message, your number is blocked...

  7. It's because we have a choice by ErichTheRed · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm older (43) and still tend to answer the phone. But, one thing I do see is that people who don't like talking to people feel they don't have to anymore. There's other non-voice options.

    This is especially true in workplaces, where the younger crowd is finally starting to reach the supervisory levels. In tech shops it's all Slack, Teams, IM of one form or another, texting, etc. I actually find myself preferring this, even though I know it's not normal.

    I'm not an antisocial nerd, but I'm also not a type-A salesy extrovert either. Talking to people on the phone means uncomfortable small talk, having to manage the conversation, etc. Sending a to-the-point message is much more useful to me. I know extroverts probably love the small talk aspect, but it's something I can live without if I can get my information without it.

    1. Re:It's because we have a choice by larryjoe · · Score: 2

      I'm older (43) and still tend to answer the phone. But, one thing I do see is that people who don't like talking to people feel they don't have to anymore. There's other non-voice options.

      This is especially true in workplaces, where the younger crowd is finally starting to reach the supervisory levels.

      Yes, this. The concerns about spam are sort of an issue, but it's not the dominant issue. It's largely a generational thing. I ignore unknown numbers calling me, but I answer every single known number calling me because I feel it's impolite unless I'm really busy. Then I return the call later.

      My pre-teen daughter refuses to call her friends, instead insisting to message them instead. In my generation, there is a feeling that voice conversations, in person visits, and hand-written notes are more personal, but the younger generation doesn't have that same sensibility. For me, I text people I care less about, but I call my wife and family, but Millennials seem to have a different mindset.

  8. SIP Killed the phone by DMJC · · Score: 2

    SIP is the reason why phones are now completely stuffed. By dropping the price of international calls to literally $0.00 (simply an international SIP trunk.) It meant that all spammers have to do is control a computer in the country they wish to dial into and all calls are free or as near to free as needed to justify the expense of making the calls. This could be fixed with carrier/vendor cooperation. But it won't happen.

  9. Texting? by jenningsthecat · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Texting is fun, lightly asynchronous, and possible to do with many people simultaneously.

    I find texting to be a distracting pain in the ass, and if a text thread goes beyond a few messaged in the space of an hour, I'm either placing a call or dropping the thread. Texting is a thoroughly inefficient way of communicating when compared with two-way speech, even if you don't consider that it's WAY harder to text and do something else than it is to talk and do something else.

    ... words mixed with emoji, Bitmoji, reaction gifs ...

    I hate those damned things - they're un-subtle, annoying, tacky, and cheesy. Fortunately, I only get stuck with Emoji - I had to look up the other two for this comment. And if THEY start showing up, I'm going back to a flip phone.

    Texting definitely has its uses, and I appreciate what it brought to the party; but it is in NO WAY a substitute for talking, and any graphic elements beyond specific and personal pictures and videos are the ugly garden trolls and velvet paintings of the smartphone world. Now get off of my lawn, dammit!

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  11. yes free speech is the feeble justification by goombah99 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Our DO Not Call law inserted two exceptions beyond emergency calls
    1. Politicians and polling people can call you unsolicited
    2. Anyone you had a previous bussiness relationship or contact with can call.

    The last one is really abused. Say you start to buy an electric fur lined shaving mug on etsy but then change your mind at the "confirm this purchase" step. You just had a bussiness relationship where you provided contact info.

    Next they sell your info to some broker who sells it to 1000 other people who are now considered "affiliates" of the original transaction. SO they have standing to call on the do-not-call list.

    The final problem is that phone companies all want to monetize their role in preventing you from dreading the phone ringing. Just as Ring tones were not free but were costless to provide, they want to charge you for allowing you to benefit from their curated blacklists. And they want to sell free passes one the blacklists (whitelisting) to people who pay them. They could do this for free as it's nearly costless.

    SO basically the phone companies are working hard to make you hate your phone.

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  12. Re:Phone spam is the reason by Ksevio · · Score: 2

    I rarely see a spammer reuse a number so I don't see blocking to be effective. If someone calls me twice in a row, I'll probably pickup.

  13. Re:This has got to be a Planet USA shit. by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    In Europe caller pays, always. Also, in Europe we (usually, but depends on the country) have a no-spam-call list service, and whoever calls a number on that list gets fiercely fined.

    I’m guessing the caller pays is a bigger deterent as it woukd be tough to find, let alone fine, some non-EU soammer in a third world call center. OTOH, getting billed for thousands of calls would greatly impact or wipe out any profit; or EU telcos simply do not connect calls because they can’t get needed payment data. Alternatively, I’d imagine language to be another barrier as there is no assurance the person called speaks the caller’s language, whereas in the US you are pretty certain of getting an English speaker most of the time.

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  14. commentsubject by Falos · · Score: 2

    Answer your phone with a muted microphone.

    Human callers will issue their confused "Hello?" calls into the void, identifying themselves as authentic.

    Software could easily note speech on the other end, note an unexpected mid-call termination (you hung up) marking your number as a legitimate (and more importantly, active) data point. This is valuable information internally, maybe even enough to sell.

    Even a voice synth "Hello." isn't that hard to identify. Answer muted, put the phone away, let the robot rant until it hangs up.

  15. I still answer my phone, most of the time .... by King_TJ · · Score: 2

    I'm 46 and so also from the generation that was conditioned to pick up a ringing phone. But the reason I still do it today is because of what "swb" says here. There are too many situations where a real time voice conversation gets something resolved efficiently, where the other methods just don't.

    With IM and texting, the parties aren't a "captive audience". They can carry on the conversation at their leisure, while doing and thinking about other things. I can't get a quick resolution if it's not a simple yes or no type question.

    Just last week, I needed to get some changes made to my Sirius/XM subscription. Tried the online chat but it was too slow and frustrating. It was resolved quickly by calling and and just explaining what I wanted to do. Same with updating my car insurance. The original quote I requested prompted me to ask about several other things on the policy, and everything was sorted out in a single phone call. I tried to text message my agent initially, but he only paid attention to the first item I asked about and didn't answer my other questions.

    I hear younger people constantly saying they just don't talk on the phone anymore, and would often get rid of the phone number and voice portion of their cellphone if they could do it and save money on the bill. That saddens me, because they don't realize what they're giving up. The telephone was a great invention because it allowed vocal communication between distant parties. Everything else you can do on a cellphone today is just "pocket computer" stuff. And throughout the history of the computer, a telephone has still been a useful device to have along-side of one. Videoconferencing tools like Skype and Zoom do blur the lines. But still, a telephone call is a more simple, direct way to establish the communications link.