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GitHub, Medium Remove Public ICE Employee Data Repository (obsceneworks.com)

owenferguson shares a report from Obscene Works: Medium.com and GitHub have today quashed the release of a set of data comprising of all the ICE employees who openly list themselves on LinkedIn.com. All the data released was gathered from publicly listed LinkedIn profiles. The data was assembled by Sam Lavigne of http://lav.io/ and was published as a repository on GitHub, and announced via an article on Medium.com.

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  1. ICE employees? by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 5, Informative

    Okay, I'll bite. The "article" doesn't even answer the question. What the heck is an ICE employee? A gas-powered employee?

    Answer via Google: U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

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  2. I'm as lefty as they get by rsilvergun · · Score: 5, Interesting

    and I'll grant the story, touching on Github as it does, has some potential validity. But what the hell is up with that headline? "Willfully Destroyed"? They didn't destroy anything. They took it off their servers. Probably because there's a lot of emotions running high and they're rightfully worried some nutjob is going to go off half cocked and hurt somebody.

    I'm grateful to Github for nipping this in the bud. Crap like this is exactly the sort of response that our countries current extreme immigration policies are meant to solicit. We're being trolled; probably as a point of distraction from economic issues that otherwise would dominate the mid-term elections (the economy's doing crap with poor wage growth despite full employment). Now is the time to calm the heck down and apply appropriate and legal pressure. Not dox a bunch of poorly paid gov't employees who most likely took the job out of desperation (and yes, I know folks who work in some of the less upstanding law enforcement jobs and believe me, it's not by choice).

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    1. Re:I'm as lefty as they get by whoever57 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They may have taken the jobs out of desperation, but they didn't have to announce the fact on LinkedIn.

      They made the information about themselves public.

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    2. Re:I'm as lefty as they get by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Publishing a LinkedIn search may or may not be moral, but it's not "doxxing." Doxxing would be linking it to non public info like phone number, address, ssn, etc for the purposes of encouraging harassment.

    3. Re: I'm as lefty as they get by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Euthanasia is a choice made by rational adults about their own end.

      Abortion does not result of the loss of a thinking being that can feel distress.

      What is going on now is involuntary confinement of children who can and who have committed no crime.

    4. Re: I'm as lefty as they get by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Informative

      In this case, mom and dad committed a crime and have to be detained until they can be adjudicated.

      Nobody in the US loses their kids over a misdemeanor. If you run a red light, you don't have your kids put in a "Tender Age" prison.

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    5. Re:I'm as lefty as they get by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      The monkey who managed to double our countries debt in 8 fu*king years!!

      Sadly, you have no understanding of how the US government works. Spending is controlled by congress, not the president, and congress was controlled by Republicans for 6 out of those 8 years. In fact, despite all their ranting about "tax and spend Democrats", Republicans have controlled congress, and therefore controlled spending, for 20 out of the last 26 years.

    6. Re: I'm as lefty as they get by rworne · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Sure. This is why my kid had on their history final that Reagan ran up the national debt and turned the US from the #1 creditor to a debtor nation.

      The difference from Obama was the political parties running congress and the executive were swapped. So - the blame got swapped too.

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    7. Re: I'm as lefty as they get by fafalone · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Unless you live in one of the few places that eliminated cash bail for misdemeanors, then you're wrong. You could challenge being held on bail because of childcare obligations, but scheduling that hearing takes a while, first appearance judges don't want to hear it. There's no law that sets misdemeanor bail to zero for parents, nor for people who can't post.

    8. Re:I'm as lefty as they get by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Doxing often involves just collecting publicly available information. Most people don't realize how various little bits here and there can be collated and cross-referenced to build up a profile of them, kinda like what Facebook does.

      Just because something is public doesn't mean it can't be used for doxing. Merely collecting it for the purposes of harassment or shaming is enough.

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    9. Re: I'm as lefty as they get by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why throw the parents in one cage and the children in a different cage? Why not keep them together?

      Even if you ignore the humanitarian grounds, it surely costs more to provide free childcare that the parents would otherwise have given.

      Let's drop the pretence. This is being done to put pressure on the Democrats and to discourage migrants. It's not a legal requirement or procedural issue, it's a deliberate decision to separate children from their parents for political reasons.

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    10. Re: I'm as lefty as they get by Curunir_wolf · · Score: 4, Informative

      Why throw the parents in one cage and the children in a different cage? Why not keep them together?

      They tried that, but the courts have ruled they cannot house children in the same facilities with adult detainees.

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    11. Re:I'm as lefty as they get by aquacrayfish · · Score: 4, Informative

      Okay, we got *a* shutdown, not shutdowns, under Obama because Ted Cruz and the Tea Party wing pushed for one. The rationale was they wanted to tie the budget to the debt ceiling and they wanted, again, to muck with the ACA. They bragged about getting what they wanted afterwards because of the resulting unilateral cuts.

      So, surprise, Obama didn't want to sign that. I'm not aware of a rational argument on why he would want to. You can argue about whether you like(d) the ACA, whether budget cuts were a good idea, the fallout of our loss on credit rating or furloughed jobs was worth it, or whatever all you like. Obama had no interest in gutting his own health care bill. Duh. I'd also like to think we agree that the concept of the debt ceiling isn't relevant right now how much Congress spends (regardless of where they spend).

    12. Re: I'm as lefty as they get by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Informative

      In Europe we have detention facilities for families. They are secure but also provide conditions suitable for families, at least in theory.

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    13. Re:I'm as lefty as they get by Altus · · Score: 4, Informative

      collecting? Its on a god damn list on linked in and they all put themselves on that list.

      https://www.linkedin.com/searc...

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    14. Re: I'm as lefty as they get by rworne · · Score: 4, Informative

      Seriously?

      The game of nuclear brinksmanship pretty much ended. The iron curtain fell as Eastern Bloc puppet states broke away from Soviet control. Millions of people gained freedom. The Berlin Wall fell. The Solidarity Union in Poland. Relations between the US and Russia improved considerably - yeah, relations with Russia now are not all that good, but it is far better than it was in the 1950's - 1980's.

      If people want to lay the blame on Reagan for the debt he rang up bankrupting the USSR, it was worth it.

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    15. Re: I'm as lefty as they get by Gr8Apes · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Compared to our return on the 8 Trillion in increased debt from the Obama years with no real benefit to be shown for it - yeah, totally a bargain.

      Let's see - roughly 6T of that was directly related to saving our economy from the crash of 2008, and whose fault was that again? Oh yeah, the Republican led rollback of Democratic originated regulations on the banking industry allowed that to develop. Hmm. The remainder of the deficits were the result of Republican majority Congress, so what, exactly, did Obama do to the debt? What did we get? Obamacare. A half-assed form of universal coverage, but at least they tried, which the Republicans apparently find so abhorrent they're doing everything in their power to sabotage it so it "fails". Why? Because they're incapable of replacing it, as their concept of "healthcare", short version: pay or suffer and die (restated as it's god's will)

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    16. Re: I'm as lefty as they get by Gr8Apes · · Score: 3, Insightful
      You are incorrect on that as well:

      the five largest investment banks at the core of the crisis (including Bear Stearns and Lehman Brothers) were not subject to the CRA or other depository banking regulations, and they did not originate mortgages

      (From wikipedia, because it was easiest)

      Thus, the CRA wasn't in play for these investment banks, nor were they regulated. Yet they were the root cause of the recession.

      You can read more about it - yes, there was a housing bubble, it wasn't caused by government policy, and the GSEs (Fannie and Freddie) weren't drivers with their directives. When you can offload your risk for cash to loan more, there's no incentive to strengthen your requirements, because your base risk is still low. Someone else took the risk off your hands that you had. If you recall, several of those investment banks wound up being guilty of repackaging low-quality mortgage loans as high quality investments. All of that lead to an environment where lower quality loans being less costly and risky to originators and thus more and more were written and passed into the system. That increase in demand caused, you guessed it, increased prices. Thus the bubble grew and grew and finally popped at the slightest poke.

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  3. And if it were an ANTIFA supporter database ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Lets create a database of all people on facebook who made a post supportive of the pro-violence wing of antifa. Would there be a different reaction to its deletion?

    1. Re:And if it were an ANTIFA supporter database ? by x0ra · · Score: 3, Funny

      No need to look them up on Facebook, just list all the student in gender studies, heck, just list all the student in any liberal arts curriculum...

    2. Re:And if it were an ANTIFA supporter database ? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It would be just as bad. As is the list of "SJWs".

      Lists of people you dislike are almost always a bad idea.

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  4. Re:I don't get it. by whargoul · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why would anyone want this information?

    The only reason for a list like this is to encourage harassment of these individuals just for working somewhere that asshole doesn't agree with.

  5. Re:I don't get it. by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Without enforcers, the policy makers would be powerless. Without foot soldiers, there would be no war.

  6. What a creep by piojo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What a creep.

    I find it helpful to remember that as much as internet companies use data to spy on and exploit their users, we can at times reverse the story, and leverage those very same online platforms as a means to investigate or even undermine entrenched power structures.

    This is some serious confusion, or just a severe "us against the world" mindset. Yes, internet companies sometimes spy on their customers. No, the people in his stalker notebook do not spy on ISP customers. No, the spying ISPs engage in is not the same as encouraging stalking.

    I've seen a certain (few) progressives justify bad behavior as "sticking it to the man", "speaking truth to power", or "punching up". Invariably, this was an excuse to be rude or make accusations about a person who wasn't in a position to defend themselves. This data dump goes beyond rudeness.

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    1. Re: What a creep by c6gunner · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Absolutely. Can't wait for some Christian fundie to publish a comprehensive list of abortion doctors. With a wink and a "now I'm not telling you what to do with your guns" preface.

    2. Re: What a creep by evil_aaronm · · Score: 4, Informative
      Isn't that pretty much what Trump did during the campaign with this:

      “Hillary wants to abolish, essentially abolish the Second Amendment,” Trump said to boos from the crowd.
      “By the way, if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do folks,” he then added.
      “Though the Second Amendment people, maybe there is, I don't know.”

    3. Re: What a creep by GrimSavant · · Score: 4, Informative

      Uh, you do realize that the "Christian fundies" have been tracking abortion doctors already, right? Here's a story about them using license plate tracking. And there have already been multiple assassination attempts (and successful assassinations) on abortion doctors previously, so the violent innuendo has already been breached.

      I'm not going to speak to the efficacy or wisdom of doxxing ICE agents, but you seem to be behind the times on the willingness and capability of the radical right wing to resort to political violence. It's going to get extremely ugly very quickly if both sides start regularly using violence for political ends.

  7. They also probably weren't expecting threats by rsilvergun · · Score: 5, Insightful

    for doing a job. I don't think there's many that would argue that we don't want and need some level of border security (there's a few extreme libertarians who do). If we're going to have that then _somebody_ is going to enforce that security.

    We can argue that they should quit their jobs if they're asked to do something immoral, but a lot of them _aren't_ doing anything immoral. I'm going to Godwin this thread right now, not every German helped kill jews. There's boarder patrol agents who help people they find in the desert.

    I understand wanting to do something to help Mexican and South American immigrants. But if that's our goal then there's a _lot_ more to do than immigration. We can start by legalizing drugs. The drug war fuels their violence. We can also stop meddling in their politics. "Banana Republic" has a sinister meaning and our CIA has helped run death squads in South America. Start voting for the kinds of politicians who oppose torture and unnecessary military build up. Drop food instead of Bombs, it's cheaper and more humane.

    There's a lot we can do to stem the tide of illegal immigrants. But that said, we don't necessarily _want_ to do that. We're addicted to their cheap, cheap labor. Always have been.

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    1. Re:They also probably weren't expecting threats by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I agree that we should end the drug war.

      It has gone worse than Prohibition.

      If we want to stop immigration, we simply need a national employment database and fine the hell out of any employer employing people not approved to work.

      But many of the people losing their children are not coming here simply for work. They are facing being murdered in their home country.

      And Sessions is quoting the bible while ignoring Jesus and all the tales relating to being a good samaritan, kind to strangers, etc. And he's using the same verse used to justify slavery and many other heinous crimes.

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    2. Re:They also probably weren't expecting threats by monkease · · Score: 4, Informative

      Funny you should mention Godwin...

      He weighed in.

    3. Re:They also probably weren't expecting threats by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I was born within walking distance to a concentration camp in which people were raped and tortured to death, those people had received training from the US, and that dictatorship was supported by the US.

      The US has had a hand in a lot of the world's problems, doing a little to make up for the millions that have suffered and died under US imperialism is not too much to ask.

      I pay more taxes than most americans, too. But it's not about money, it's about being decent human beings.

    4. Re: They also probably weren't expecting threats by Teun · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You don't seem to appreciate the difference between a common criminal and someone who attempts to give his children a better life by going to the USofA.
      The first tries to make a life at the expense of others, the latter tries to find a paying job and a safe place to live.

      Trump's administration can, awaiting their deportation, keep the families together, absolutely no need to separate them at this difficult time.

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    5. Re: They also probably weren't expecting threats by dwillden · · Score: 3, Insightful

      They both have broken the Law. Even someone who is innocent but is accused of and arrested for breaking a law will be separated from their children for at least a short time while their case is being processed.

      The difference is that in the normal operation of the criminal justice system, the system isn't overwhelmed on a daily basis with a never ending flood and criminal cases process quicker, The arrestee is booked, sits a few hours (maybe a weekend) and then is arraigned and usually a bail amount is set and they can be bailed out to a future court date.

      If the border crosser has just crossed illegally it should be nearly that quick assuming we have enough judges to handle all the cases. But when the crosser claims asylum that throws a big wrench into the situation. Now there are a series of interviews and investigations of their claims that have to be processed and this takes time. Meanwhile thousands more enter the system every day.

      It's a matter of logistics and scale. Not even our biggest cities have to handle this size of load every single day, seven days a week.

      So what do we now do with the children. the 9th circuit ruled years ago they couldn't go to jail with their parents. Not even special family detention centers that were designed to be as non-jail like as possible and still do the job. So the parents are separated from their children. The parents go to jail for either criminal processing and deportation or asylum claim review. Meanwhile the children are handed over to HHS by the thousands, they have 20 days to find and place the children with relatives or other trusted responsible adults known to the parents or into foster care.

      No it's not pleasant, no it's not ideal. But the courts have prevented keeping the families together. The Obama Catch and release program is a failure with over 80% of those caught and released failing to show up for their court dates. (Catch and release was they were caught, briefly processed and released into the US with a court date). It's a viable system to deal with the logistics of such large scale detention and arrests.

      And ICE is required by law to separate the children from their parents, the courts blocked an attempt to do otherwise.

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    6. Re: They also probably weren't expecting threats by AmiMoJo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Also, asylum seekers are not illegal immigrants. They are following the legal process of claiming asylum from danger. Even if their case is not accepted, they are not breaking the law.

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    7. Re: They also probably weren't expecting threats by radarskiy · · Score: 5, Informative

      You can't apply for asylum in your country of origin. You first have to enter US territory, which may be an embassy in a third country or the US proper. Valid immigration status is not a prerequisite for applying for asylum. You may apply for asylum to an immigration judge during removal proceedings.

    8. Re: They also probably weren't expecting threats by danbert8 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Do they have an asylum case? Do they know what the classifications and definitions of asylum are? Or were they told "just say asylum when you get there"? These asylum seekers not only don't have a case or evidence, they are often illiterate. They come across the border, not at a designated crossing, don't voluntarily seek legal officials, and have no prepared case for asylum. They just either know when they come in that asylum claims will allow them to stay longer or they get legal council that tells them asylum is their only option for legally staying.

      Did they flee a country that sucks? Yes. Is their case special and meeting the three criteria for asylum (from Wikipedia)? First, an asylum applicant must establish that he or she fears persecution in their home country.[3] Second, the applicant must prove that he or she would be persecuted on account of one of five protected grounds: race, religion, nationality, political opinion, or particular social group. Third, an applicant must establish that the government is either involved in the persecution, or unable to control the conduct of private actors.

      If someone comes across the border illegally, doesn't immediately seek legal means of declaring asylum, and doesn't have a prepared case for the three criteria, then how are they asylum seekers? Sounds to me like they are using legal language to ride the legal bureaucracy as long as they can because the USA has a reputation for a broken immigration system that is overwhelmed with people. Throwing children into the mix adds to the complication and the difficulty in caring for the people caught.

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    9. Re: They also probably weren't expecting threats by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 4, Informative

      They are breaking the law if they enter the US before obtaining asylum.

      As far as I understand the situation, that statement is false thanks to certain international treaties the US is a signatory to.

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    10. Re: They also probably weren't expecting threats by Smidge204 · · Score: 4, Informative

      > They both have broken the Law.

      Seeking asylum is not against the law. And yet, if you come to the US-Mexico boarder seeking asylum, you will be arrested and your children, if any, will be confiscated.

      And I say "confiscated" because there is a nonzero chance that separation will be permanent.

      > No it's not pleasant, no it's not ideal.

      It's un-American, it's illegal, it's racist, and it's completely unnecessary. It's throwing gasoline on what is already a dumpster fire of a humanitarian crisis.
      =Smidge=

    11. Re:They also probably weren't expecting threats by TFloore · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I agree that we should end the drug war. It has gone worse than Prohibition.

      Prohibition was, at least nominally, a moral stance that alcohol was bad and should be totally banned. The War on Drugs (also called "The War on (Some) Drugs" if you are trying to smear the pharmaceutical industry) was a law enforcement and social control program, really. You can make the argument that it, like criminalization of maurijuana, was to allow the government to lock up black people easier. There's a great conspiracy theory that maurijuana is illegal because FBI Director Hoover wanted to lock up the Black Panthers, and they weren't otherwise actually breaking laws that he could pin on them (not to say they were innocent, just the drug dealing was a lot easier to prove and convict). There's also a great conspiracy theory that maurijuana is illegal because Dow Chemical's new miracle nylon ropes couldn't compete against hemp ropes, so they got maurijuana (and hemp) made illegal.

      If we want to stop immigration, we simply need a national employment database and fine the hell out of any employer employing people not approved to work.

      Look up the E-Verify system. Employers can already verify citizenship/immigration status, but it is not currently required, and businesses don't want to do it, because it loses them access to cheap labor. It will especially impact small farms, and lots of agricultural and meat processing facilities. Also lawn services, construction, and plenty of other businesses where people work hard physical labor, usually outside. You know, the kind of jobs that most Americans want their kids to get good educations so they won't have to do, but that still need to be done.

      But many of the people losing their children are not coming here simply for work. They are facing being murdered in their home country.

      This is where I show I don't fit well into either Democrat or Republican columns. Coming to America for a better life, or a life where you can live the way you want with less government control, is a big part of how this country grew over the last 200 years. I'm a big believer in that. And that's what we have our normal legal immigration laws to cover. We also have the asylum immigration laws, and I don't know as much about that as I feel I should, but I've never agreed that "There is a high violent crime rate in my home country" is a good enough reason for an asylum claim. Government persecution, yes, organized crime, maybe, my spouse beats me, no, I don't think that should qualify. Bear in mind, I've always considered "asylum" to really be more about "political asylum" which is obvious in my thinking there, isn't it? Can you tell I don't acutally know the law there?

      And Sessions is quoting the bible while ignoring Jesus and all the tales relating to being a good samaritan, kind to strangers, etc. And he's using the same verse used to justify slavery and many other heinous crimes.

      If you look at the history for Paul's letters to the Romans, he wrote several of them while IN JAIL. You know, being imprisoned for breaking the law. He was a big believer in obeying a government's laws that represented the will of God, but not so much a government that did not represent God's will.

      There's a saying that goes with this... "The Devil quotes scripture too". Simply finding a line in the Bible that seems to support your position is not enough to claim the moral high ground. You still have to make the case that what you are doing is right, and I don't think they've done that successfully yet. Half the Trump administration isn't even trying to do that, because they don't think what they are doing *is* right. They *may* believe it is the least bad of several very bad options, but that is not at all the same statement as "is good and right".

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    12. Re:They also probably weren't expecting threats by king+neckbeard · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Cry me a fucking river over spending money helping immigrants. We back 3/4 of the world's dictactors, we're bombing 8 countries (I think, I've lost count at this point). We spend more money on a military than many of the world's other major powers combined.

      If it's about the money, we've got a lot more high priorities to cut.

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  8. I've been hre longer than you by OrangeTide · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Slashdot, you are better than this.

    No, we're not. This site is about weird racist memes, goatse and penis bird. There may nothing beneath us.

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  9. Re: Didn't take MS to start fucking up github by Reverend+Green · · Score: 5, Informative

    GitHub's decline started long before the Microsoft acquisition. When they forced out the founder and declared meritocracy, and by extension merit, unwelcome.

    Venture capital turns everything it touches into evil shit. Not just evil, not just shitty - evil & shitty.

  10. Re:Github? Really? by Cinnamon+Beige · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yeah, to me its deletion from GitHub is pretty obvious--it's not a program or data for a program, of course it ought to go--and I'm a bit disgusted by the double-standards of a lot of the people here. Would the people here be as offended if the list deleted was, say, "LGBT employees of Google"? How about "Non-White Health Care Workers in Random City"? These kinds of lists are a problem because they invite harassment of the people on the list--and it's disturbing to see people thinking it's somehow okay to do this when it's the 'right' people getting harassed, because that basically means that you will have to be careful about expressing any ideas which might risk you at some point (now or in the future) finding yourself on one of those lists...and that won't protect you against being included by accident or because somebody wanting revenge or a petty power play.

  11. Re:Manufactured outrage by redmid17 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Most of those are actually false (1,4,6) or at best distorted. This is not surprising as Breitbart is an awful source of any news and Steve Bannon basically helped dictate this immigration policy.

    1. He's enforcing the most draconian option. They claim the kids are unaccompanied but by prosecuting the adults criminally instead of civilly -- they obviously have that right -- they can isolate both the parents and the kids. This is even happening to people trying to claim asylum at ports of entry.
    2. Many do. The vast majority arrive with an adult. The trafickers posing as a family account for .61% of kids.
    3. Many, if not all, of these children have been apart from their parents for more than 20 days. Even a cursory google shows this is heinously out of context.
    4. This is just unmitigated bullshit. It's child abuse (per pediatricians AND psychiatrists) and nothing DHS says has been independently verified. Either way being separated from family and put in a detention center is certainly not GOOD treatment
    5. People are generally not jailed for misdemeanors. Children certainly aren't seized and they get preference in their bail hearing if they are the sole caregiver.
    6. This is just unmitigated bullshit. He kept families together.
    7. Ignoring the fact that DHS has started turning people away from ports of entry, yes they are actively being turned away and sometimes seized. This is, once again, easily findable via basic google. Some actual sources WITH SOURCES!
    https://www.texasmonthly.com/p...
    https://www.npr.org/2018/06/19...
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/0...
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/0...

    Even if you don't like NYT or NPR, there are other outlets that report it as well, even websites like Snopes and politifact. Basically that was a shit post for covering an awful practice and an even bigger shit post because it was so laughably bad and fake,.

  12. So, scraping is supposed to be OK by jtara · · Score: 3, Interesting

    They scraped content from LinkedIn (or used an API?) to compile a directory, almost certainly in violation of TOS.

    How was that OK?

    Microsoft owns LinkedIn. Microsoft owns Github. Put two and two together. They are enforcing their TOS, and happen to have the ability to do so in this case without having to convince another site to take down the illegally-obtained material.

  13. Re:Didn't take MS to start fucking up github by The+Cynical+Critic · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If you've been paying attention to what's been going on over there since they decided their "In Meritocracy We Trust" parody of the oval office carpet in the CEO's office was offensive and had to be removed you'd know the place has let the lunatics run the asylum for years already. The only surprise here is that they decided to remove this particular doxxing case as it conforms really well to their particular bent so some semblance sanity may actually be returning to the madhouse.

    The far left lunatics they've let run the company have removed projects and banned people on purely political grounds, made it very easy to add extremely broad codes of conduct with a focus on "If someone claims they've felt slighted the guilty one must be punished reality and plain sense be damned" types and implemented loads of asinine "diversity" policies like restricting certain positions based on race and putting an end to mentoring new hires because of how their diversity drive has lead to to many cases of minorities and women being mentored by white men.

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    "Why should I want to make anything up? Life's bad enough as it is without wanting to invent any more of it."
  14. Re: I don't get it. by GrimSavant · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The big one Sessions referenced was Romans 13:1-7, which is a New Testament Pauline epistle. It argues for submitting to governing authorities.

    Generally, if government officials are using that passage to defend themselves or justify their actions they tend to be in a bad way. It was used as one of the scriptural bases for the Divine Right of Kings, opposition to the American Revolution, and by pro-slavery forces to justify adherence to the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850. More recently it has been used as a support by the apartheid government of South Africa.

    When Romans 13:1-7 is cited while ignoring the next couple of passages (Romans 13:8-10) it's pretty obvious that it is being used for dubious ends, as that goes:

    8 Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for whoever loves others has fulfilled the law. 9 The commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not covet,”and whatever other command there may be, are summed up in this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” 10 Love does no harm to a neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.

    I'm not a biblical scholar, nor am I a well-versed adherent to the Pauline epistles, but I do have a hard time seeing any love in this.