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Silicon Valley Execs Will Meet on Wednesday To Discuss Privacy (axios.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report: Privacy and government affairs officers from a number of the largest tech companies plan to convene in San Francisco on Wednesday to discuss how to tackle growing questions and concerns about consumer privacy online. The Information Technology Industry Council, a Washington trade group that represents major tech companies, organized an all-day meeting to jump-start the conversations. Members include Facebook, Google, Apple, Salesforce, IBM, Microsoft, Intel, Qualcomm, Samsung, Dropbox, and others. ITI expects the meeting to be attended by companies across the industry's sectors, including hardware, software and device makers -- but declined to say which companies would be there.

52 comments

  1. Private meeting by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

    By invitation only.

    1. Re:Private meeting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hopefully an audio recording of the full meeting will leak. If for no other reason than irony.

    2. Re:Private meeting by CanHasDIY · · Score: 1

      Silicon Valley Execs like their privacy; it's yours they have a problem with.

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      An enigma, wrapped in a riddle, shrouded in bacon and cheese
  2. In private? How meta. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Will the meeting be held in private? Because holding a public meeting on privacy would defeat the point. A meeting regarding privacy should be held behind closed doors for privacy.

  3. Hahahahahahaha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hahahahahaha!

    aaaaaaaa, deep breath...

    Hahahahahaha!

    OMG, please stop, my side hurts.....

    The thieves of my personal information meeting to discuss stealing my personal information.....

    Ahahahahahahaha!

    The Modern Day Hole in the Wall Gang.

  4. Such delicious paradoxes by marcle · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A meeting of the foxes to discuss henhouse security.

    1. Re:Such delicious paradoxes by IMightB · · Score: 1

      Very good description of the issue.

    2. Re:Such delicious paradoxes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...And from the guy who perverted web standards in order to kill privacy: ...THE PRIVACY

    3. Re:Such delicious paradoxes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not YOUR privacy, dummy. They are worried about their privacy. GDPR could happen anywhere.

    4. Re:Such delicious paradoxes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A meeting of the foxes to discuss henhouse security.

      More like a meeting of the foxes to discuss how to carve up the chicken carcasses.

      Because they've already killed the hens.

    5. Re:Such delicious paradoxes by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1
      I'm thinking more along the lines of:

      People are upset about how much their privacy is being violated by us and companies like ours. Let's discuss what we can do to calm them down and distract them so they'll forget all about their silly little 'privacy rights' again, so we can continue to collect and monetize their data. After all our business model depends on being able to sell those data products!

    6. Re:Such delicious paradoxes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Similarly, I immediately pictured the Brethren Court from Pirates of the Carribean.

  5. Foxes guarding the henhouse by geschbacher79 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    For most of the companies listed, their entire business model is predicated on watching and recording every click and pageview online, and converting that into advertising (or selling that activity to other advertisers).

    These companies can't possibly be trusted to guard our privacy, as our private behavior is their business.

  6. BULL FUCKING SHIT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They are going to discus how to invade our privacy while APPEARING like they are not...

  7. Did anyone by AHuxley · · Score: 1

    meet to talk about PRISM?

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    Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
    1. Re:Did anyone by phantomfive · · Score: 2

      Yeah, every few years, a group of representatives meet and vote to continue it. So far, it hasn't gotten anyone voted out of office, so they see no reason to stop. Some polls show more Americans support surveillance than oppose it, so this is a losing battle.

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      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
  8. Here's how you respect privacy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    By giving me control.

    That is the opposite of the entire business model of Google Fuckbook Twitland Fruitcorp..

    It is the opposite of where most people gravitate: it is easier for someone else to do everything for me!

    There has been a war on personal computing. A wholesale transfer of control from end users to megacorps. That will always be inconsistent with privacy. $BIGGOV $BIGCORP will always always want to strip mine your life.

    To have privacy I must have control, myself. I must be able to store my photos on my own device, not in your data center. I must be able to send them E2E encrypted to my friend, without you in the middle. I must control the entire mechanisms of personal computing from the ground up on my own devices and hardware.

    That is the opposite of the world most have pushed hard to get. Because it's soooooo easy to let Google have all my mail and Fuckbook have all my pictures...

  9. On the agenda by phantomfive · · Score: 2

    There is one item on the agenda:
    "How do we get government to stop bothering us about privacy?"

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    "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    1. Re:On the agenda by Kulahan · · Score: 1

      This implies, of course, that the government isn't one of the main customers.

    2. Re:On the agenda by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Their meeting topic is worded to "How to get rid of concerns about privacy" not "How do we improve privacy"

      Reading comprehension is important.

    3. Re:On the agenda by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Very this!

  10. Yes sir, we are all strongly opposed to privacy! by brainchill · · Score: 2

    How many people does it take to sit around a board room and say "yes, we are all for privacy as long as you aren't keeping things private from us" ... then a round of "harrumph harrumph" .... Then they agree to make the data available between the members of their group and in all outward facing meetings appear adversarial about sharing information with anyone ;)

  11. Re:The policy of Donald J Trump in prison by brainchill · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's funny, because all of the people making all of our data available to the government and to all of their internal processes and partners also oppose Donald trump ...

  12. One request by Murdoch5 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Push encrypted email support across all tech companies.

    1. Re:One request by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Gov't fully supports encrypted email but only if they are given a "back door"....... solely to check for criminal activities, of course.

  13. Beating Your Wife by sycodon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is kind of like a bunch of men getting together to discuss wife beating issues.

    The solution is obvious...stop doing it.

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    When Fascism comes to America, it will call itself Anti-Fascism, and tell you to give up your guns.
    1. Re:Beating Your Wife by Kulahan · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "How can we keep doing this without pissing people off?"

      The only thing that will be discussed.

    2. Re:Beating Your Wife by datavirtue · · Score: 1

      This is the fox identifying the principles of hen house security.

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      I object to power without constructive purpose. --Spock
    3. Re:Beating Your Wife by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      Ehh, it's more-complex than that. Today's dialogue includes a lot of freaking out about people just giving Facebook all their information; it seems obvious we all enjoy the great benefits from this whole "you know everything about all of us and can bring us together and recommend new and exciting news we like" thing. The privacy problems are sort of the trade-off.

      All technology is about investing less in production. Privacy is a cost--if it didn't create difficulties, it wouldn't matter--and so it stands to reason we want those nice things without losing control of our privacy. We don't want the risk of identity theft. We don't want people to find us on Spoke-o and Instant Checkmate and damage our reputations because of some private indiscretions. We don't want our personal lives torn apart because certain things which are irrelevant to certain parties are nonetheless uncomfortable and drive those parties to reject us (seriously? You donated to Planned Parenthood once? Now half your friends don't want to be friends anymore, and the other half are trying to drag you to political rallies you support but don't really want to attend).

      Dealing with all those things is a lot of work.

      So people want Facebook and Google to still be Facebook and Google, but also to keep their information private. Somehow. They also don't want Facebook and Google to independently discover new information about them by intuiting from their friends, unless that would actually be helpful to them.

      See the trouble?

      You also have the basic information problem: if someone can put all this information together to discover things about you, then those things are out in the open; the fact that nobody has added it to their secret file doesn't mean those who could do such discovery don't have a secret file, but rather that they need to wait slightly longer for their clerks to assemble the relevant dossiers.

    4. Re:Beating Your Wife by VeryFluffyBunny · · Score: 1

      This is kind of like a bunch of men getting together to discuss wife beating issues.

      The solution is obvious...stop doing it.

      Yes, this. Wish I had mod points. Isn't it more like a bunch of wife-beating men getting together to discuss wife beating issues?

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      Debate is a form of harassment. Do not question my truth.
    5. Re:Beating Your Wife by Waccoon · · Score: 1

      Business ethics in a nutshell.

      Seriously. It's all about pissing off the fewest people.

    6. Re:Beating Your Wife by dromgodis · · Score: 1

      It's all about pissing off the fewest people.

      Or rather, the people that are in the position to harm their income. It's ok for them to piss off the users (as long as they still come back), but they don't want the legislators on the wrong foot.

  14. Re:Yes sir, we are all strongly opposed to privacy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why the wink? That's probably exactly how it works.

  15. Moar lobbyists by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 1

    >> Privacy and government affairs officers from a number of the largest tech companies plan to convene in San Francisco on Wednesday to discuss how to tackle growing questions and concerns about consumer privacy online.

    Read that carefully: "government affairs officers" - this is lobbyists saying the only way to suppress the voice of the people (and avoid new regulation and ongoing enforcement) regarding privacy is to hire MOAR lobbyists.

  16. Apparently some people still have some. They will be working diligently to rectify that.

  17. Privacy Is Very Important by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Privacy is very important to these forms. The data they collect on you is private, and should not be shared with you.

    The data they collect on your friends is private, and should not be shared by them or you.

    The data collect from your files, emails, photos is private, and should not be known to you.

    The people they share your data with is private, and should not be known to you.

    Your files and data however, are fully public, and can be shared to anyone, everyone.

    Privacy matters, it's just not your privacy that matters to them.

  18. They will collude on how to make the most money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nothing new here, if its private its all about self interests in growing their bonuses. Plain and simple...

  19. A few people still demand to be given privacy by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2

    "How can we get them to stop?"

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    #DeleteChrome
  20. Quick! Close the barn door! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Before all the plebs wake up that we 1%ers sold all the horses to China for pennies on the dollar..

  21. We are the product, not the customer by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    Don't forget, to them, we are the product they sell to corporations, not the customer.

    It's only in the Western US, Canada, and the EU/UK that governments are willing to insist on privacy rights.

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    -- Tigger warning: This post may contain tiggers! --
  22. How the meeting will take place: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Let's see... We care about our privacy (especially of the money we make), and not one bit about our data mines, I mean the consumers. Agreed?"

    "Agreed."

    "Meeting adjourned."

    Captcha: mugging

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    * ONLY 1 of its kind in GUI on Linux!

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    APK

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    1. Re:Those STOOGES = why I made this... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I told you before to stop spamming.

  24. Registered /.ers review of the Win64 model by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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    his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant August 10 2015

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    APK

    P.S.=> Enjoy a faster/safer/more reliable internet... apk

  25. San Francisco is a giant toilet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The streets smell like feces and piss. There's literal shit everywhere. Much of the homeless population is violent and aggressive. The traffic is some of the worst in the country.

    San Francisco is the worst city in America. I don't envy anyone who has to go to this meeting.

  26. Trump Derangement Syndrome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    These people have a severe mental illness. They actually believe the Russiagate BS and think Trump is going to be arrested any day. It is a severe psychiatric disorder.

  27. Khyber the JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie" & stalker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject Khyber: I know it's you staking me endlessly all over this forums now & nobody cares what a loser like you "thinks" https://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12266978&cid=56843354/

    * NOTHING BUT FACT/TRUTH ABOUT HIM FROM REPUTABLE LEGAL SOURCES (& disreputable from HIS mouth too) after HE started w/ me 1st of course there too using his "registered 'luser'" FAKE NAME for his FAKE LIE of a HELL OF A FUCKED UP so-called JAILBIRD PRISON "LIFE"...

    (Serious - To anyone reading that link - put your mental seatbelts on - Khyber/Alex McCLOWN is a disgusting reprehensible creature - One I am SURE now has been STALKING ME by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts all over /. for not days, not weeks, not even months BUT YEARS now just as he has NOW too...))

    APK

    P.S.=> See subject lastly - PITIFUL Khyber - you TRULY DO have some "serious" issues you CAUSED (nobody else) & your post history shows how HATE filled you are - when you see others, like me, doing what you COULD have done IF you didn't F up your life, you "hate" on them too (but the REAL TRUTH of it is you HATE yourself & after seeing what you are really about? I don't blame you for hating yourself (blame yourself, YOU wrecked your life, NOT I))... apk

  28. Cheap Rent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Perhaps they can get a good deal on renting on of the facilities above for their meeting ;o

  29. AT&T by manu0601 · · Score: 1

    The news is sitting next to Another one about AT&T. Perhaps they should invite AT&T executives?

  30. what is there to discuss? by sad_ · · Score: 1

    have they lost all common sense, that they need to discuss this? they can't figure it out on their own?

    i think the real reason for this meeting is something very, very different (in their advantage).

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