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Silicon Valley Execs Will Meet on Wednesday To Discuss Privacy (axios.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report: Privacy and government affairs officers from a number of the largest tech companies plan to convene in San Francisco on Wednesday to discuss how to tackle growing questions and concerns about consumer privacy online. The Information Technology Industry Council, a Washington trade group that represents major tech companies, organized an all-day meeting to jump-start the conversations. Members include Facebook, Google, Apple, Salesforce, IBM, Microsoft, Intel, Qualcomm, Samsung, Dropbox, and others. ITI expects the meeting to be attended by companies across the industry's sectors, including hardware, software and device makers -- but declined to say which companies would be there.

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  1. Private meeting by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

    By invitation only.

    1. Re:Private meeting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hopefully an audio recording of the full meeting will leak. If for no other reason than irony.

    2. Re:Private meeting by CanHasDIY · · Score: 1

      Silicon Valley Execs like their privacy; it's yours they have a problem with.

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  2. Such delicious paradoxes by marcle · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A meeting of the foxes to discuss henhouse security.

    1. Re:Such delicious paradoxes by IMightB · · Score: 1

      Very good description of the issue.

    2. Re:Such delicious paradoxes by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1
      I'm thinking more along the lines of:

      People are upset about how much their privacy is being violated by us and companies like ours. Let's discuss what we can do to calm them down and distract them so they'll forget all about their silly little 'privacy rights' again, so we can continue to collect and monetize their data. After all our business model depends on being able to sell those data products!

  3. Foxes guarding the henhouse by geschbacher79 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    For most of the companies listed, their entire business model is predicated on watching and recording every click and pageview online, and converting that into advertising (or selling that activity to other advertisers).

    These companies can't possibly be trusted to guard our privacy, as our private behavior is their business.

  4. Did anyone by AHuxley · · Score: 1

    meet to talk about PRISM?

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    1. Re:Did anyone by phantomfive · · Score: 2

      Yeah, every few years, a group of representatives meet and vote to continue it. So far, it hasn't gotten anyone voted out of office, so they see no reason to stop. Some polls show more Americans support surveillance than oppose it, so this is a losing battle.

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  5. On the agenda by phantomfive · · Score: 2

    There is one item on the agenda:
    "How do we get government to stop bothering us about privacy?"

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    1. Re:On the agenda by Kulahan · · Score: 1

      This implies, of course, that the government isn't one of the main customers.

  6. Yes sir, we are all strongly opposed to privacy! by brainchill · · Score: 2

    How many people does it take to sit around a board room and say "yes, we are all for privacy as long as you aren't keeping things private from us" ... then a round of "harrumph harrumph" .... Then they agree to make the data available between the members of their group and in all outward facing meetings appear adversarial about sharing information with anyone ;)

  7. Re:The policy of Donald J Trump in prison by brainchill · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's funny, because all of the people making all of our data available to the government and to all of their internal processes and partners also oppose Donald trump ...

  8. One request by Murdoch5 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Push encrypted email support across all tech companies.

  9. Beating Your Wife by sycodon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is kind of like a bunch of men getting together to discuss wife beating issues.

    The solution is obvious...stop doing it.

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    1. Re:Beating Your Wife by Kulahan · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "How can we keep doing this without pissing people off?"

      The only thing that will be discussed.

    2. Re:Beating Your Wife by datavirtue · · Score: 1

      This is the fox identifying the principles of hen house security.

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    3. Re:Beating Your Wife by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      Ehh, it's more-complex than that. Today's dialogue includes a lot of freaking out about people just giving Facebook all their information; it seems obvious we all enjoy the great benefits from this whole "you know everything about all of us and can bring us together and recommend new and exciting news we like" thing. The privacy problems are sort of the trade-off.

      All technology is about investing less in production. Privacy is a cost--if it didn't create difficulties, it wouldn't matter--and so it stands to reason we want those nice things without losing control of our privacy. We don't want the risk of identity theft. We don't want people to find us on Spoke-o and Instant Checkmate and damage our reputations because of some private indiscretions. We don't want our personal lives torn apart because certain things which are irrelevant to certain parties are nonetheless uncomfortable and drive those parties to reject us (seriously? You donated to Planned Parenthood once? Now half your friends don't want to be friends anymore, and the other half are trying to drag you to political rallies you support but don't really want to attend).

      Dealing with all those things is a lot of work.

      So people want Facebook and Google to still be Facebook and Google, but also to keep their information private. Somehow. They also don't want Facebook and Google to independently discover new information about them by intuiting from their friends, unless that would actually be helpful to them.

      See the trouble?

      You also have the basic information problem: if someone can put all this information together to discover things about you, then those things are out in the open; the fact that nobody has added it to their secret file doesn't mean those who could do such discovery don't have a secret file, but rather that they need to wait slightly longer for their clerks to assemble the relevant dossiers.

    4. Re:Beating Your Wife by VeryFluffyBunny · · Score: 1

      This is kind of like a bunch of men getting together to discuss wife beating issues.

      The solution is obvious...stop doing it.

      Yes, this. Wish I had mod points. Isn't it more like a bunch of wife-beating men getting together to discuss wife beating issues?

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    5. Re:Beating Your Wife by Waccoon · · Score: 1

      Business ethics in a nutshell.

      Seriously. It's all about pissing off the fewest people.

    6. Re:Beating Your Wife by dromgodis · · Score: 1

      It's all about pissing off the fewest people.

      Or rather, the people that are in the position to harm their income. It's ok for them to piss off the users (as long as they still come back), but they don't want the legislators on the wrong foot.

  10. Moar lobbyists by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 1

    >> Privacy and government affairs officers from a number of the largest tech companies plan to convene in San Francisco on Wednesday to discuss how to tackle growing questions and concerns about consumer privacy online.

    Read that carefully: "government affairs officers" - this is lobbyists saying the only way to suppress the voice of the people (and avoid new regulation and ongoing enforcement) regarding privacy is to hire MOAR lobbyists.

  11. Apparently some people still have some. They will be working diligently to rectify that.

  12. A few people still demand to be given privacy by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2

    "How can we get them to stop?"

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  13. We are the product, not the customer by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    Don't forget, to them, we are the product they sell to corporations, not the customer.

    It's only in the Western US, Canada, and the EU/UK that governments are willing to insist on privacy rights.

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  14. AT&T by manu0601 · · Score: 1

    The news is sitting next to Another one about AT&T. Perhaps they should invite AT&T executives?

  15. what is there to discuss? by sad_ · · Score: 1

    have they lost all common sense, that they need to discuss this? they can't figure it out on their own?

    i think the real reason for this meeting is something very, very different (in their advantage).

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