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The BBC Is Heading To Court To Hunt Down a Doctor Who Leaker (gizmodo.com)
After someone leaked an incomplete scene featuring Jodie Whittaker's Thirteenth Doctor, the BBC headed to court to track down the perpetrator. Gizmodo reports: In fact, the corporation has filed an application in a California court this week in an effort to expose the person who put the leaked footage online -- hoping California's Federal Court would put pressure on Tapatalk, whose messaging service was used to upload and disseminate a non-final, 53-second clip of Whittaker's Doctor in action. The BBC isn't accusing Tapatalk of any wrongdoing; rather, it just wants details on the user that uploaded the clip, so it can attempt to isolate just where in Doctor Who's long line of production the clip got leaked.
In a statement provided to, well, itself sort of, the BBC said that it was taking court action so that fans could "enjoy the final and fully completed version of the episode when it premieres," but it's about more than the integrity of the fan experience here, given that the clip was allegedly pretty clearly unfinished. And while the BBC would prefer that no sneaky footage of one of the most highly anticipated seasons of Doctor Who in a while is out there before it says so, it especially doesn't want it out there if it's footage that's not been edited into the version fans will eventually see on TV.
In a statement provided to, well, itself sort of, the BBC said that it was taking court action so that fans could "enjoy the final and fully completed version of the episode when it premieres," but it's about more than the integrity of the fan experience here, given that the clip was allegedly pretty clearly unfinished. And while the BBC would prefer that no sneaky footage of one of the most highly anticipated seasons of Doctor Who in a while is out there before it says so, it especially doesn't want it out there if it's footage that's not been edited into the version fans will eventually see on TV.
The leaker was a Dalek.
They leaked Sherlock early last year, no reason to think they wouldnâ(TM)t do it again.
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No wonder we cant have nice things, this is just a waste of resources.
Could always ask the GCHQ as it is in the nation interest. On the grounds of national security.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
At least you're not a cow. Dr. Moo!
nice try but i still have zero interest in your show
Woman can be doctors and men can be nurses. They're not gender specific jobs.
But you're right, how dare a TV show adjust its stories to align with their target demographic!
The Doctor died after that last episode. This idiocy confirmed it. Their stunt is a failure and they're trying to compensate.
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The BBC has long since addressed this error. Quit wasting your time--or at least quit wasting ours.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
And your problem is...? Other than that you seem to think women can only be nurses, but not doctors?
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
The Doctor, at one point, was given a choice about the body he would regenerate with. At the end of The War Games, the Timelords punished Patrick Troughton's Doctor and forced him to regenerate. They offered him several possible appearances, all of which he declined. After that, the Timelords chose for him.
Doctor Who has a much bigger problem than a female Doctor, which I'm not sure is a problem at all. The real issue is that the stories just haven't been that interesting the past few series. The format of the show doesn't help here. Classic Doctor Who told longer stories, allowing for more complex and more interesting plots. That was part of the appeal of the show, at least for me. The stories were simpler under Davies due to the shorter length, but were at least still interesting and compelling. When Moffat took over, the writing seemed to decline and the plots became increasingly confusing and less interesting. I don't have a whole lot of confidence that the new showrunner will improve things, and that's unfortunate. I don't care that the Doctor is a woman. I do care that the writing sucks.
You assholes erased many hours of old video already, and now you care about a 53 second clip somebody shared online.
Fuck.
You.
Did they ever explain why The Doctor who, as I am given to understand, has never had any control over the body he regenerates, into, nor any idea what it will look like, somehow regenerated like ... a dozen or so times as men, man after man after man, then inexplicably, right around the time of the so-called year of the woman, he magically comes back as a woman? Other, of course, than cynical opportunism, cashing-in on the mood, as it were, and demographic shifts of the audience?
Maybe he realized he was gay and wanted to try being on the receiving end without taking the Hershey highway. If not, can you imagine the shock waking up one day and your junk is gone, you got tits, and you have to squat to pee? Could be worse, I suppose. Could wake up black.
I haven't seen a Dr. Who episode since Tom Baker was in it. The show was so cheesy and bad, I was embarrassed for the BBC. It was like final season Lost in Space bad. It looked like the budget was whatever they could fish out of the sofa cushions. How it became a cult hit in the UK, I will never understand.
Now this is a reason for bothering courts, unleashing lawyers and inquisite online activities: finding out who dared to desecrate a few unfinished seconds of a silly show.
When I first read the title this is what I thought it says: "The BBC is heading to court to hunt down a doctor who leaker". A doctor who what? When I read the summary the correct interpretation turned out to be: "The BBC is heading to court to hunt down a Doctor Who leaker". This is a nice illustration of why I dislike the habit of capitalizing almost every word in a title. The information normally conveyed through correct use of capitals is lost.
became increasingly confusing and less interesting
But this is consistent with being a woman.
The show jumped the shark when it became all about Clara. Especially the episode where Matt Smith spent a thousand years at the Christmas planet? What the fuck?
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"Your name" did well internationally, so capture some of that lightning.
Also, boobs.
Still no official explanation. ae911truth org
Does it really have to be spelled out for you?
Okay, fine: who do you know who lives in the UK, is frequently seen on the BBC, and has the ability to send information backwards through time?
I don't care if it's 90,000 hectares. That lake was not my doing.
The only people who give a fuck to mess with a 53 second clip.
Why does my foot hurt?
I thought the real jump the shark moment was when 20th Century Fox and Universal Studios got involved. Is there really any Matt Smith moment which made you say that it was bad enough to redeem the 8th Doctor as no longer being the worst thing in Dr Who history?
Dr. Who, as it is in demand worldwide, makes the BBC, and effectively the UK tax payer, a profit. So defending it is defending that revenue stream. However, I am not sure a 53 second clip makes much odds to that revenue stream.
I do not really care, one way or another
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The show jumped the shark when it became all about the Doctor.
The show was at its best when he was a clever resourceful time-traveller who landed unexpectedly in interesting situations and helped people. Then Moffat retconned him into an omniscient god who was literally the reason for the existence of the Universe.
And by "doctors", you mean "alien expats with a narcissistic moniker they gave to themselves"? I'm sure they can.
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"The BBC Is Heading To Court To Hunt Down a Doctor Who Leaker" directly above "Chinese AI Beats 15 Doctors In Tumor Diagnosis Competition ". How many doctors have there even been yet?
After that, the Timelords chose for him.
The Doctor and The Master are the last of their kind other than those in Gallifrey's parallel pocket universe.
Now just hope all doesn't go Torchwood. Don't expect much anyway.
Moffat's biggest problem is that he never gives you the pay-off. Every episode feels like it's building towards something big, but it never comes. The end is always just some nonsense deus-ex-machina and setting up the /next/ big thing for next season.
Anyway, he is gone now so maybe things will improve.
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I think after Lost writers realized they can succeed by making things confusing, instead of having an actual plot. Keep it confusing enough and then come up with a Deus ex machina at the end. As a bonus, you can keep it going as long as people keep paying. I'm looking at Mr Robot and the new Star Wars here specifically.
As a counterpoint, the Marvel stuff is turning out to be coherent beyond expectations, even though they don' t need to.
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From memory (good memories sitting down and watching these every Sunday night as a kid), the original Dr Who had quite a lot of four- or five-episode arcs but NOTHING to compare with the season-long arcs like BadWolf, ClaraImposibleGirl or CracksInTime.
Ever since the Dr Who reboot the show has been moving away from the male hero and token woman to be saved and into the Doctor Who hero with side kicks (male, female, old, young, black, white, straight, lesbian, gay) that help him.
As per the final regeneration of River Song - the Doctor might have some control on his new body (remember River said "Silence .. I'm concentrating on a dress size")
Do I support a female Doctor ... let's wait to see what she's like. Do I worry that this was done on PC grounds ... oh yes. Who is the most discriminated against part of society now .... white, straight males.
have people started using the expression Nurse Who yet?
I'm sure a number of childishly sexist right wing nutjobs have, yes.
To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
No thank you.
See the previous article - the BBC trying to make out that the new Doctor Who (i.e. anything since Tom Baker) is anything other than shit.
And what a surprise that they changed the SEX of the Doctor, to a female! Because that's not all Bolshevik sexuality, is it...
British have a gun held to their heads and are forced to pay BBC subscriptions.
Well, you're supposed to pay it and they talk big about fines but it's fairly easy to avoid. Especially as cuts mean less people out checking. Fuck the BBC though, their content is daytime filler crap and the occasional dead horse they won't stop flogging and they want me to pay for it just because I technically have the ability to receive it. No, fuck off.
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Woman can be doctors and men can be nurses. They're not gender specific jobs.
But you're right, how dare a TV show adjust its stories to align with their target demographic!
This doctor isn't that kind of doctor, or any kind really as far as I can tell but there is a big difference between adjustment and pandering.
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How it became a cult hit in the UK, I will never understand.
Because we love how shit some things are.
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The BBC is worth it for their news alone. It keeps everyone else honest, by providing a reliable source of information that can be compared to bullshit like RT. The benefit to democracy is huge too, especially with programmes like Newsnight.
Where the BBC tends to suck is entertainment. But entertainment is also where it tends to pay for itself through commercial sales overseas and merchandise.
So on that basis I'm okay paying for it, although it might be better done through general taxation rather than a licence fee.
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You could say it jumped the shark before that on the Charles Dickens planet where he flew across the sky riding on a literal shark.
I think after Lost writers realized they can succeed by making things confusing, instead of having an actual plot. Keep it confusing enough and then come up with a Deus ex machina at the end. As a bonus, you can keep it going as long as people keep paying. I'm looking at Mr Robot and the new Star Wars here specifically. As a counterpoint, the Marvel stuff is turning out to be coherent beyond expectations, even though they don' t need to.
I'll admit I haven't seen all the old Doctor Who, but I've seen all the new ones. The series basically got three choices:
1) Ignore the implications of time travel and every episode is some random time/place disconnected from the rest of the universe. This is possible, but kinda boring because there's very little story arc and character development. It worked before the age of VHS/Netflix because you had to wait a week and forgot most the show, as a binge watching experience it's terrible.
2) Take time travel "seriously" and try to make up meaningful rules of why you just can't go back to any time and change anything an unlimited number of times, which would be the ultimate deus ex machina. It will be terrible, arbitrary and stupid with lots of quasi-mumble and building up a terrible burden of canon that would eventually lead to painting yourself in a corner.
3) Just don't give a fuck and make it up as you go along, I mean half the point of Doctor Who is trying to be an enigma. What's he really, a man travelling the world to fix small injustices here and there? A destroyer of worlds, a killer without a gun? With all the other time lords gone, is he some sort of demi-god, the lone master of space and time? Is he the good guy against the villain the Master?
The problem is that you have to struggle really hard to give meaningful drips of information/insight for season after season while still keeping him an enigma. We kinda got him figured out now and that's really what's killing the show. I mean I don't know this episode's story, but I kinda feel I know what the Doctor's part will be. So they have to throw in some other plot twist to make it interesting which is rather hard in the long run.
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Quite what the fuss is about Dr Who I have no idea. The storylines are childish (but then it is really a kids show I suppose), overblown and never live up to their promise - the season denouement is usualy more a "meh" that a "wow!", the dialogue is often amateur to say the least, the special effects are dire (and there's no excuse for that in 2018 when even a standard graphics card can do some pretty impressive stuff), and now the BBC have bowed to feminists and made him a woman. Hint - there's a reason he's called a Time Lord and not a Time Lady. I watched a couple of series then gave up.
Maybe it used to be when it at least pretended to be impartial, these days it's just another thinly veiled tory mouthpiece. Look at the blatant plants on QT, the massive discrepancy between tory coverage and coverage of any other party. Just look at how many ex tory ministers get parachuted into top level bbc jobs. Channel 4 seems to becoming the new gold standard as worrisome as that is. I would be more than happy for bbc to go subscription or ad supported but you can tell just how beneficial it is to the tories as that is the one thing they won't consider for privatisation anytime it comes up.
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1. Doctor Who cannon had time lord (the fictional species that Doctor Who is) regeneration where Sex change was a possibility. It was casually brought up in the old series. Then in the new series with the start of the Matt Smith Doctor he first thought he regenerate into a woman because of his long hair. Then The Master (a reoccurring villain who is also a Time Lord) had regenerated into a woman. Then a random Time Lord General had the same thing. Writers have been preparing the viewers for this for over a decade.
2. I work in a teaching hospital about 2/3 of the student are women who are going to be doctors. Also male nurses are on the rise and are being more common.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
The classic Who had the problem that these stories needed to last 3 or more episode in length (each episode was 1/2 hour) vs 1 hour today.
This put in a lot of filler with the bad guys drinking tea, or just normal office politics. A lot of it didn’t do much to the story except express the bad guys weren’t actually evil people but just doing shortsighted or evil things.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
It was Reuters fault is not an official explanation, and wtc7 is the least of the problems with the pre written scripts they were all reading from. Osama Bin Ladin anyone?
What news? the Big Black Cock is the UK statetelevision channel for the british crown,the last time they did actual news David Kelly had to be murdered.
Other, of course, than cynical opportunism, cashing-in on the mood, as it were, and demographic shifts of the audience?
Or maybe they've just gotten with the times and realised sexism isn't as acceptable as it once was?
Also, have people started using the expression Nurse Who yet?
Why would they? Last time I was in hospital my nurse was male and my doctor was female. I also used to dive with a doctor who was maleish ,... I do wonder if she got her surgery yet I haven't seen her in 2 years.
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BBC News is more fiction than the BBC 'entertainment'.
There were some good stories about the Doctor and the Time Lords back in the classic era.
The problem is that the new era keeps hinting at interesting stories about the Time War and what happened to that race, but then never delivers. I guess they are trying to keep the Doctor mysterious but eventually you get fed up of being teased.
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The BBC has certainly moved a bit to the right over the last 15 years, but only a little. QT has many problems but with Dimbleby retiring there is a chance it might improve. His brother does a much better job on Any Questions.
I agree that it's frustrating how little coverage the BBC gives to some things, especially the anti-Brexit movement. But there also isn't much else. C4 News is pretty good but that's it really.
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Assuming that there was a conspiracy behind the collapse of the world trade towers (there wasn't), do you not realise how insane it would be to try and make the news media part of it?
Basically the fewer people involved, the easier it would be to keep secret. There is no good reason to tell news media of the plan in advance.
Doctor Who has a much bigger problem than a female Doctor, which I'm not sure is a problem at all. The real issue is that the stories just haven't been that interesting the past few series. The format of the show doesn't help here.
This, its down to lazy writing and larger FX budgets being used to compensate. Just throw in another Angel/Dalek/Cyberman story and move on. Its become as bad as Star Trek. It doesn't bother me about the Doctor's gender, what bothers me is that it was thrown in to compensate for crappy writing.
Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
Some would argue that keeping the doctor male would have been pandering to demographics that prefer women be inconsequential sidekicks that required rescuing all the time.
Well, there's spam egg sausage and spam, that's not got much spam in it.
I can type more than that for meine comment.
You mean the "Time of the Doctor" special Christmas episode the BBC released on Christmas Day 2013? [sarcasm] How dare they relate it to Christmas![/sarcasm]
Well, there's spam egg sausage and spam, that's not got much spam in it.
I suspect the worry is; if whoever leaked it had access to that 53 seconds- what else did they have access to- and could they leak whole shows in the future. This is plugging the small hole in the dam before it becomes a massive hole.
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I live in the US and rely on BBC to give me impartial news IN the US. In the US you have the choice of Fox, ABC, and CBS which all have deliberate right wing bias- or PBS, CNN, and NBC which all have deliberate left wing bias.
It's nice to have news which isn't (deliberately) biased. BBC world service is the only way to get unbiased news about the US from within the US.
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Yep. It's not fun when every baddie wants to destroy the Doctor because he simply is the Doctor and has destroyed enemies that were trying to kill the Doctor.
One baddie that works this way is fine (the Master), but the rest of episodes should just be about the Doctor being placed in some particular point of time and space in which something interesting is happening.
The show jumped the shark when it became all about Clara. Especially the episode where Matt Smith spent a thousand years at the Christmas planet? What the fuck?
I liked Clara in the beginning but he saccharine tones and voice really grated on me by the end. I was glad to be rid of her. There again, that Scottish guy was annoying. Electric guitar, sonic sunglasses... how do you make doctor who annoying by trying to make him "cool" to youngsters- and not even understanding what youngster even think is cool these days. Capaldi the worst doctor.
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There were some good stories about the Doctor and the Time Lords back in the classic era.
The problem is that the new era keeps hinting at interesting stories about the Time War and what happened to that race, but then never delivers. I guess they are trying to keep the Doctor mysterious but eventually you get fed up of being teased.
They've covered what happened a few times now.
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Frustrating? Take this example from today. Vote Leave found guilty of breaking 4 laws during their campaign, not accused of, this is the verdict and the very top thing is vote leave's guy offering up excuses and complaints about the process which are also intermingled with the article itself.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-...
And that's just one small thing among many. Don't even get me started on Kuenssberg.
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So you're saying the Whos did 911?
I would argue the pandering was not the casting itself but acknowledging and making such a big deal out it. I'm all for strong characters but unless it's actually relevant to the story somehow the gender of the character really doesn't matter but when they're going look we have a woman aren't we progressive it just highlights how unequal things really are instead of trying to actually make progress.
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I think it's more the excuse given that issue is being taken with.
but it's about more than the integrity of the fan experience here, given that the clip was allegedly pretty clearly unfinished. And while the BBC would prefer that no sneaky footage of one of the most highly anticipated seasons of Doctor Who in a while is out there before it says so, it especially doesn't want it out there if it's footage that's not been edited into the version fans will eventually see on TV.
"fan experience" over and over.
Given that this is Doctor Who, the series where the FANS have taken to sharing crappy home audio-only recordings of certain shows the BBC lost...
The fans of the older seasons don't seem the type to care about the absolute quality and condition of being finalized if that is the only option for their collections.
I'm sure like any other of us collectors, the finalized versions will be more than accepted into their folds as a replacement for a poorer quality version, but to pretend that the BBC has done a better job than the fans at protecting the series legacy is pretty hollow and empty.
Also no, I'm not "blaming" the BBC for their handling of such things, especially so back then when it wasn't practical for them to store every last thing.
I'm pointing out the rather obsessive nature of collectors, myself included, that tends to border if not pounce far beyond ridiculousness.
I'm also not claiming they don't have the legal right to do what they are. Only pointing out the fact that compared to the fans, the BBC is so far below the gold standard in protecting the interests of the fans that their lawyer written excuse is laughable.
Sadly, you are all too right. And we've thanked the Brits by sending them F35s -- the 21st Century equivalent of laying a white elephant or two on them.
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I used to think the same about BBC. So I figure I will sit and listen/watch/read what they have to say. It became crystal clear they were just the same as all the other news orgs. Regurgitating the exact same thing that came off the AP, Reuters, and CNN news wire. At some point they cut the people that do news. That time was WELL over 20 years ago.
Everyone raise their hands if you think BBC would be unprofitable and need tax subsidies to exist. If that is true then maybe what they make is not really worth anything and we are arguing about something that literally takes away from society.
Waiting for the next regeneration.
That's because the story is actually that Vote Leave admitted to it ahead of publication of the report. When the report comes out there will doubtless be more coverage of what the report says and any action taken over it. Sadly I doubt there will be any real punishment or redress for this.
I think Vote Leave actually screwed up here by jumping the gun. They made the top headlines today, first item on the Radio 4 news, and when the actual report comes out they probably will again.
Kuenssberg is annoying but no more so than any other news programme. Humphries is more of a problem, he really needs to go.
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Woman can be doctors and men can be nurses. They're not gender specific jobs.
The only one claiming anything remotely like that is you. In my experience, people who say "women can't be doctors, they can be nurses" aren't saying that women cannot take on the role of a doctor, but that doctor and nurse are gender-specific titles for the exact same job. Like actor/actress, waiter/waitress, and dominator/dominatrix.
Yes those people are wrong, but my point is that they aren't wrong in the way that you think they are.
The established char of the show is the show. If back in the 80s I tuned into Knight Rider and suddenly the lead char is a female, it would be awkward and nothing to do with sexism. Going to see Return of the King and finding it's been changed to Return of the Queen and Arwen is now taking over Gondor. It'd be strange. If there's a need for a female timelord then make a spin off show and call it something else. If the market/demographics are there it'll do well.
Do I support a female Doctor ... let's wait to see what she's like. Do I worry that this was done on PC grounds ... oh yes.
Yes, this exactly. When "Missy" was first introduced, all through that season she seemed like a very interesting character. When it was finally revealed that "hahaa! It was I, The Master, all along!" it felt very pandering towards my gender. Like they were saying that they believe a female character cannot make it without a strong male background.
As a result, I am extremely worried about how Jodie Whittaker's Doctor will be treated by the writers. Sure there's no surprise reveal this time, but I'm sure they'll figure out a way to shove it in our faces that she would never have worked out without 12 (13 if you count War Doctor) male Doctors before her.
I liked Clara in the beginning but he saccharine tones and voice really grated on me by the end. I was glad to be rid of her. There again, that Scottish guy was annoying. Electric guitar, sonic sunglasses...
I see Dr. Who is still as cheesy and unwatchable as it used to be, Sonic sunglasses? Why not optical ear muffs?
There are exactly 2 types of people who would say "Nurse Who".
1) People who genuinely believe that doctor and nurse are just gender-specific titles for the exact same role (like actor/actress).
2) People making a joke.
I liked Capaldi because hew as kind of grumpy like the first doctor. He plays guitar in real life so I guess that carries into the show.
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Since you are the one unable to take a joke, you are the one in need of growing up. Just saying.
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They are all shameless party rags and you are kidding yourself if you believe otherwise. You're just drinking a different flavor of Kool-Aid and belong to a different cult.
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> Some would argue that keeping the doctor male would have been pandering to demographics that prefer women be inconsequential sidekicks that required rescuing all the time.
Completely ignores a number of the female companions from the original run of the series in the 70s,80s, and 90s. Also ignores female antagonists from the same time period.
Modern token female characters actually tend to be WORSE than their 70s counterparts. The Last Jedi is a great example of this.
A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
Sure. We already had one called The Rani. We've also had other female Time Lords. They must all be just "chopped liver" including River Song.
The last transgender regeneration they had came complete with entirely inappropriate sexist nonsense that doesn't really fit the context of supremely powerful aliens with huge livespans from the other side of the universe.
That nonsense is jarring to just a regular human who lacks a strong gender affinity.
These idiots don't really understand what they are toying with. Although that's true of "pop sci-fi" in general. High concepts are botched generally across the board.
A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
The BBC may not find the leaker, or not find them before the show airs and this particular case becomes moot. This is more about the warning shot across the bow of the next leaker. "We are watching, and when we find you, we will fire you".
One of his early reboot companions was just that kind of guy. Basically Captain Kirk for the new millenium who quite literally hit on EVERY thing that crossed his quarterdeck (and not just the girls).
Not that the Doctor should view any of his companions as much more than house pets. The current writers don't seem to get the intellectual distance between Time Lords and humans.
A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
Just wanted to add that the episode BLINK was my absolute favourite of the modern Doctor Who series, an absolutely perfect little piece of scary SF.
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The BBC is worth it for their news alone. It keeps everyone else honest, by providing a reliable source of information that can be compared to bullshit like RT.
hahaha.. you really are a crackpot. Sure, RT is full of shit, but so's the BBC.
fucking unbelievable. To the right? They've been marching steadily towards communism like the good wannabe marxists they are.
Who Leaked? Yes.
No, Who leaked the Dr.? Yes.
What's on second? Yes.
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ROFL. you are seriously deluded if you think the BBC is any better.
This is the consequence of liberalism/leftist collectivism. Since you have to get everything right and make sure you don't offend anyone, you're left with shriveled up garbage that lacks creativity of any sort.
..and those people would be guilty of perpetuating a false dilemma..
Because if different sources do not present a unified message, its much harder to manipulate public opinion to run illegal wars and not let people question why a single family gets hundreds of millions of pounds a year in state benefits and exemption from inheritence tax.
You really think ABC, the channel whose top news anchor is George Stephanopolous, who also works for both the Clintons and the Clinton Foundation, is a right leaning station? You must be a fucking idiot.
But I had to read the post title twice to figure out it wasn't a grammatical error or an incomplete title with a typo.
Hey guys, WHAT IF they also put this much time and effort into finding an actor to play Doctor Who who takes the role seriously and with respect and doesn't leave after a year or two to "do something else" or "find something better" aka massively disrespecting their role as the lead in one of the biggest and most important and successful TV shows England has ever made?
In other news, "ALL SAVED FROM TITANIC AFTER COLLISON-- Rescue by Carpathian and Parisian; Liner is being towed to Halifax after smashing into an iceberg".
That's an actual headline from the Evening Sun, by well meaning, but poorly informed, journalists.
Mistakes happen in a crisis. Get over it.
In Australia the ABC played every available Dr Who episode right from the start. This was back in 2002 IIRC.
Scenario: there were scary aliens outside. The Doctor told his female companion not to go outside. Lo and behold she went outside and uttered the immortal line, "Help! I've sprained my ankle."
I switched off and never watched again. For the record, Dr Who jumped the shark in Series 1, episode 6.
Examples of what you call "full of shit" would have helped your post; link to specific stories and clearly explain how they are so severely bad that the entire channel is rightly dismissed with such a criticism.
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This show is so discontinuous that I do not bother with it anymore. Celebrating 50 years of Doctor Who when they spent much of that time off the air and out of production. Then starting up with a very short lived Doctor, and then having big gaps in production is ridiculous. The fact that it was determined that the next Doctor must be a woman doesnâ(TM)t help. It would have been one thing to find your best choice was a woman, but in this case the gender had been determined before the search began.
It's "highly anticipated" not because it's good, but because between feminism and examples like ST-Discovery and SW- The Last Jedi, all we deduce is a big flaming bag of disaster. Just let them leak it, just let us rip the band-aide off so we can know if they finally made an awful season of Dr Who.
In fact, I'd argue that the publicity of this will end up increasing the revenue stream. Many of us who've never watched the show, may finally tune in to see what all the fuss is about.
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It was in demand, it remains to be seen if it still is, or if they've jumped the shark.
Except I don't recall that they say anything of which you allege. People have reacted that way, but it didn't come from the BBC or the show runners. The only thing I've seen is the big reveal video.
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I'll agree with you on Fox. As for the others, including the BBC (which I also enjoy watching), you're viewing them through your liberal rose colored glasses...they're clearly not impartial.
https://www.washingtonpost.com...
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Um are you going to equate fiction where the characters have been established with a particular trait with the main character of a show that changes every few years? It sounds like the same outrage when Rue in the Hunger Games was an African American: Nonsensical.
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My point exactly: when the show started in 1963, the doctor had to be male and his companion had to be a damsel in distress as that was part of the culture at the time. Over the decades, the companions like the show have been a reflection of the changing culture. The show had had strong female companions, a gay/bi companion, etc. Heck, no one blinked when the Doctor and his companion were played by Scots. The last Doctor was Scottish in nature. Yet the main character being male is somehow sacrosanct.
As opposed to childishly narcissistic left wing elitists?
I'll agree with you on Fox. As for the others, including the BBC (which I also enjoy watching), you're viewing them through your liberal rose colored glasses...they're clearly not impartial.
https://www.washingtonpost.com...
"Pew has basically taken the average viewer/consumer of all of these media outlets and plotted them on a continuum, trying to ascertain which outlets are favored by which side of the political spectrum."
That's measuring audience (who watches) not how biased the media is. Those are two different things. I'm also not a "liberal", I'm a centrist, so no "liberal rose colored glasses" for me.
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" I'm a centrist..."
Most of us, myself included, who think so, probably are not. But then, it also obviously depends upon your viewpoint regarding what that means. From a mostly worldview, the vast majority of America is right wing, and I'd certainly fall into that category. But solely from a typical American POV, I'm pretty centrist, except in fiscal matters.
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I was slightly right of centre when I lived in the UK. Moving to the US I realized I was centrist here. (I think the UK itself has moved to the right quite a bit in this same period of time too- I think UK's centre is a lot closer to the US's now- but the difference is you don't have as many people far off centre over there. Most people in the UK are fairly centred as opposed to one end of the spectrum or the other here).
It's hard to measure because it really depends on the topic to me- but in general I average in the middle (some-things I'm on the right, some-things I'm on the left). My typical voting at the polls at a major election usually includes one or two votes for democrats, one or two votes for republicans and the rest going to independents and 3rd party candidates.
I absolutely despise Trump though. If he becomes the new norm for Republicans then I suspect I won't be voting Republican much in the future.
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I'm certainly to the right of you, but also couldn't bring myself to vote for Trump. On many issues though, I find myself at odds with the right,
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You think CBS and ABC have right wing bias? Maybe compared to the New York Times or Slate. Compared to anybody else, not so much.
Well if they're target audience is all of the people who never watched Who before I guess you're right. If they're target audience is all of the people who have been watching Who for the past decade or so or the decades before that, then I think they've really screwed the pouch here.
Lucasfilms seems to have had the same ideas about Star Wars and the audience numbers for Solo pretty much showed them how that worked out.
Amazingly people don't want to watch entertainment that lectures to them. I suspect Jodie Whittaker to be the Sylvester McCoy of the New Who era.
Verity Lambert, the first producer of Doctor Who once described the problems with McCoy's era as being that the production company got the idea that they were smarter and more sophisticated than the fans, and so played down to them.
What she was describing, though she didn't call it that at the time, was that they were condescending to the viewers, acting in a patronizing manner. Practically the definition of both Lucasfilms handing of Star Wars since they've been owned by Disney, and the way Who has been since Capaldi, with its overextended lecturing on the evil of capitalism and in your face LGBT propaganda.
And before anybody goes crazy Captain Jack was Bi and it was handled very well by the show, in a way that was neither lecturing nor an intrusion to the plot. One never felt one was being lecture to because John Barrowman was in a scene.
With the possible exception of Fred who was Capaldi's companion there isn't a single companion in the New Who which would qualify as an inconsequential sidekick who need rescuing all the time. Considering that every Doctor but Capaldi actually had Male (Captain Jack, Mickey, Jackson Lake, Craig, Rory) companions as well as female companions it seems likely to me you've never watched the show.
Except that is not factual at all. The Doctor's first companions were Ian and Barbara (and his granddaughter.) Throughout the classic Who run the Doctor had many male companions: Ian, Ben, Jamie, the Brigadier, Sergeant Benton, Mike Yates, Harry Sullivan, Adric, Turlough. New Who had Adam Mitchell, Jack Harkness, Mickey Smith, Jackson Lake, Rory Williams.
The real problem isn't that the Doctor will be female, but the reason the Doctor will be female. No one would have blinked an eye if a female had been chosen instead of Capaldi. But after making the Master female and then practically budgeting viewers with the whole subject no one with a brain thinks that Whittaker being given the role is anything more than virtue signaling. The Doctor will be female not because it makes any sense in the story, but because of Political Correctness.
You think CBS and ABC have right wing bias? Maybe compared to the New York Times or Slate. Compared to anybody else, not so much.
They at least used to when I had cable. It is possible they've moved to the left over the last 7 or 8 years- but yeah, they at least used to be to the right. Not like fox- crazy propaganda right, but certainly had a right wing bias.
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Then apparently it seems they're trying to expand their fan base.
The diehard fans will always be diehard fans. Not even Jar Jar Binks could scare away Star Wars fans.
There, their, they're pooch. Idiot.
And how would you know what I've watched and haven't watched? My point which you've seemed to miss is that when the show started in the 1960s, Doctor Who was male. Period. Even after the regeneration was devised as a way for multiple actors to play the part of Doctor Who when actors left the show, the Doctor must be male. Period. No other reason has ever been given as to why the Doctor couldn't be female. Over the years we've seen the companions drammatically change from the damsel in distress to companions that had much more autonomy. Male companions, gay/bisexual companions, companions who were not Caucassian. In ALL of those changes, the Doctor had to be male. Why?
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The Doctor will be female not because it makes any sense in the story, but because of Political Correctness.
And how can you possibly know that unless you were in the casting meetings? Peter Capaldi was leaving; they needed another Doctor Who. According to you they picked a female because of political correctness. Do you know what criteria was used? For sure the only criteria I can be certain is that Doctor Who should be from the UK. Do you know that the show didn't audition both male and female actors and Whittaker was the better actor?
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