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Malls In California Are Sending License Plate Information To ICE (theweek.com)
Presto Vivace shares a report from The Week with the caption, "And they wonder why some of us prefer to shop online." From the report: Surveillance systems at more than 46 malls in California are capturing license plate information that is fed to Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the Electronic Frontier Foundation reported Tuesday. One company, Irvine Company Retail Properties, operates malls all over the state using a security network called Vigilant Solutions. Vigilant shares data with hundreds of law enforcement agencies, insurance companies, and debt collectors -- including ICE, which signed a contract with the security company earlier this year, reports The Verge. "[Irvine Company] is putting not only immigrants at risk, but invading the privacy of its customers by allowing a third-party to hold onto their data indefinitely," EFF wrote in its report, urging the chain of malls to stop providing information to ICE.
Really? You have a State Issued ID that MUST be affixed to your car, and you are willfully driving it and PARKING IT in public view, on private property. And that is invading privacy?
Browsing at +1 - no ACs, I ignore their posts. So refreshing!
I think that's a great idea.
I mean, those damned spacecraft really mess up my Wifi. You'd think an advanced civilization would have things cleaned up a bit.
Thanks for the tip.
Faster! Faster! Faster would be better!
Since malls are dying, I guess the problem will eventually solve itself. Thanks Amazon.
Here to the US.
Tell that to the Native Americans. I think they would have agreed with you and you wouldn't be here either.
No good deed goes unpunished.
Vikings: a little more than 1,000 years ago.
Native Americans: a little more than 15,000 years ago.
No doubt they Vikings did arrive on these shores; but the continent was already long since populated.
"That's the way to do it" - Punch
My wife is an immigrant, is she at risk?
Yes.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Technically, any legal infraction is reason enough to allow someone to have their legal status revoked.
This is false. In the US, for one, only Naturlized citizens can see their citizenship revoked. That means if you're born here, you have birthright citizenship and can never be made to be non-citizen. There's 4 specific things that can lead to "Denaturalization" :
- Lying on your citizenship application.
- Refusing to conform to a congressional subpoena
- Joining a subversive group within 5 years of being naturalized (Think ISIS, Al-Qaeda)
- Dishonorable military discharge.
A simply felony or misdemeanor ? Nope. You are either grossly misinformed or fear mongering all over this discussion. Which is it ?
"Not to mention all the idiots who use words like boxen."
Anonymous Coward on Monday August 04, @06:49PM
Democrats who want to abolish ICE are literally handing Donald Trump his reelection on a silver platter.
Let's not enforce any border laws and let's see how that turns out. Idiots.
I'm not a Trump supporter, and I'm merely a centrist, but I agree that it is a foolish platform to take.
I'm against excessive and invasive persecution and hunting for illegals. I'm not blind to the fact that we need to limit illegal immigration. My main concern is that a lot of anti-immigration is down to bigotry and nationalistic sentiment that can escalate; and has rapidly escalated many many times in many many countries throughout history. It doesn't take long to get into some McCarthyistic witch hunt for immigrants, and start finding reasons to mark legal immigrants as criminals for obscure rules and start deporting them.
It's not ICE that I oppose- ICE Is important. It's the racist sentiment behind a lot of the actions of some of the laws that I oppose. It is the nationalism that could escalate dangerously that I oppose. The more fervent the head-hunting for illegals, the more likely that legal immigrants get caught up in this- either accidentally or deliberately. Already, there are plenty of stories of legal aliens being arrested and detained for months because they're mistaken as illegals.
"That's the way to do it" - Punch
This is false. In the US, for one, only Naturlized citizens can see their citizenship revoked.
This is false. In the US, for one, your citizenship can be revoked for treasonous acts, or serving in the armed forces of a foreign nation.
You are either grossly misinformed or fear mongering all over this discussion.
You are grossly misinformed, and there's no alternative.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
My wife is an immigrant, is she at risk?
[Irvine Company] is putting not only immigrants at risk
No, they're not endangering anybody, which is the implication. They're making it more likely that ILLEGAL immigrants will be caught. There's a choice that they can make, which is not enter the country illegally.
Legal immigrants? Hell, these days even American citizens are at risk, and not just from the government. Besides the 92 year old Mexican man legally in the country to visit his children and had a woman beat him up with a brick, there was a woman recently in Illinois who was accosted for wearing a Puerto Rico shirt and was told to go back to her country. People don't even know (or care) that Puerto Ricans are American citizens. The current administration is trying to foster a climate where if you are Latino you are default not a US citizen. That doesn't end well.
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