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Star Trek: Discovery's Season 2 Trailer Teases Spock, Christopher Pike, and Tig Notaro (theverge.com)
CBS has released a "Season Two Premiere" for Star Trek Discovery, offering the first look at the upcoming season of the show on CBS All Access. The first season launched late last year and finished up in February after a brief hiatus. The Verge reports of what to expect from the upcoming season, which is expected to premiere sometime in early 2019: [It] appears to begin with Captain Christopher Pike (Anson Mount) coming aboard and taking control of the USS Discovery after a series of mysterious "red bursts" are detected, simultaneously spread out across 30,000 light years. Burnham later claims "Spock is linked to these signals." New series guest star Tig Notaro makes a very Tig Notaro joke, Pike encourages the crew to "have a little fun," Tilly yells about "the power of math" -- a good time, in other words. (After all, the whole thing is set the tune of Lenny Kravitz's "Fly Away," so you know it's real.) Bonus: at the end we meet another, very sniffly alien Discovery crew member, proving Saru and the bridge androids aren't the sole non-humans aboard the ship, as we once feared. At the Discovery panel at San Diego Comic Con's Hall H, a new Star Trek series was announced, called Star Trek: Short Treks. It is "a series of monthly short-form stories that will function like bonus content and air on CBS All Access in conjunction with the larger Star Trek: Discovery series," reports The Verge. "CBS says Short Treks, which will air in installments of about 10 to 15 minutes, is 'an opportunity for deeper storytelling and exploration of key characters and themes that fit into... the expanding Star Trek universe.'"
It's just Capt. Pike. I don't think anybody knows that guy as Christopher.
In the US, I mean. I realize that, elsewhere, it’s just another show on Netflix - but CBS is the Old People’s Network, and I can’t imagine there’s a lot of demand for streaming NCIS: New Orleans.
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Who cares what their names are, the show sucks. It doesn't suck as bad as Enterprise or Voyager, but if that's where we're at now with the Star Trek franchise then it's time to stick a fork in it.
Looks like they got tired of The Orville eating their lunch and decided to make a half-hearted attempt to copy it by adding sneeze jokes and awkwardness.
Still not biting the hook, CBS.
The youtube video linked is region restricted. A trailer/sneak peek. Restricted. What the actual fuck?
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I was so excited for another star trek. Then I realized the fundamental mistake, the core problem of this (and it was shared by scott bacula's enterprise) THEY DO NOT DO ONE OFF STORIES!
The franchise made its money by having a theme but each story can stand on its own which was what made the after market dvd's etc so worthwhile and what made the re-runs so great.
If you want a story arc, that is what star wars is for, if you want short stories that is supposed to be the domain of star trek.
Because why would you want to present to a global audience anyway?
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I really liked Enterprise. Or at least what it could have been. My only issue was casting Scott Bakula as his acting style has almost always rubbed me the wrong way. I like him in Quantum Leap but have not liked him since. The other chars were not so bad though, The dog was AWESOME and probably the 2nd best cast member after Connor Trinneer as Tucker,
I hated Enterprise when it went down the temporal cold war thing with the xindi. That storyline destroyed the show, and what a lame lame fucking lame final episode we got.
For The Pirate Bay it's working excelent.
Bakula should never play the role of a leader. He is perfect for the characters that have to begrudgingly do things that they dont want to do.
"His name was James Damore."
I really liked Enterprise. Or at least what it could have been. My only issue was casting Scott Bakula as his acting style has almost always rubbed me the wrong way.
Maybe all of the Star Trek captains should *made* to perform Shakespeare, that what William Shatner and Patrick Stewart both had in common, even though their characters were completely different.
Back in 2004 I said Enterprise would be the last Star Trek as it seems only the orignal fans saw the potential. I've given Discovery a chance as it is the first season and they did some things better than TNG so maybe I'll be glad to be wrong.
My ism, it's full of beliefs.
Beyond the absolute abuse of Star Trek lore that was Star Trek: Discovery, the real problem with Star Trek is the lack of respect for the ideals of the series. I'd say it started as soon as Star Trek: DS9 where the Federation was presented as a cult and something that drives towards homogeny. That's something that Star Trek: Discovery actually gets right, but they ignore the actual reason.
To draw a car analogy, people didn't adopt cars because they were forced on people. Cars (and automotive technology in general) greatly improve the overall happiness and well-being of society because it spurs trade and exchange, not only of goods at the global level but really at every step along the way because it provides a vital link in the network of trade. The same for trains and planes.
By the same metric, the Federations policy of non-interference and cooperative self-defense and advancement inherently encourages the adoption of their policies and a desire to work with, associate, and eventually join their organization. The anti-theses of these, in the form of the Klingons and the Romulans, represent competition, war, and strife as a means to achieving their ends as a FOIL to present how those who engage in such activities will actively take what they feel they need if times are difficult; really no one is willing to simply give up and die when it's shown that working within the confines of their territory with their efforts can fail to meet their needs.
Of course, that which the Federation represents is akin to something like Socialism/Communism/Libertarianism, but it's a TV show and no real serious effort has been put into how you avoid all the pitfalls of empowering anyone to a position where they'd actually manage the resources in a reasonable fashion. At least some effort has been made, though, in suggesting the Vulcans with their logic were at least heavily instrumental in first establishing such a system on Earth and those of Starfleet (except Admirals/Statesmen as story necessary) being pinnacles of virtue which strive to best represent the idles of the Federation not only in word but in action.
And basically, out of some view of naivety shows since DS9 have either went the SJW route to the absurd (Voyager is exceptionally guilty of this) or going the exact opposite route (DS9's Sikso, Section 31, the whole Delphic Expanse part of Enterprise, Discovery, etc). Of course, plenty of technobabble has been used to paper it over.
The necessary evil of it all is used to justify what is done. That's precisely the opposite of the core idealism that is Star Trek.
I won't join CBS All Access for ST:D, but when it eventually does reach other distribution channels I want there to be episodes containing Tig Notaro. I believe she's one of the great comics of our time, and a fine dead-pan actor as well.
I don't care if she brings the entire ST:D franchise down in a smoldering inferno: I'll bring marshmallows.
Full disclosure: I rather enjoyed the first season, certainly not perfect but the strongest season one of any Star Trek series.
I can't understand the wish for the writers to keep linking back so heavily to the existing characters though... Star Wars is having this problem too. The universe just seems smaller when they keep bumping into the same people. Haven't we seen enough of Spock through the decades, the character has been very well explored? The best parts of Discovery have been the new characters, when we spend time with them its interesting and fun. We don't need to keep linking back.
Maybe you should create your own message board. With blackjack! And hookers!
In fact, forget the message board.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Call her Santa for all I care, it still doesn't make the character interesting.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
I like Star Trek. Not really with a passion or being the guy that knows the first name of some crewman that was visible in the background of an obscure episode that was shown once but never in reruns, but I like it. Pretty much all of them, to varying degree. TOS had its charm, with its foam rocks and rubber mask aliens, it was like some sort of really well made 60s scifi show (watch some other 60s scifi shows and you know why I said "well made"). I liked the writing of TNG, they had some very good episodes with quite thought provoking social commentary. DS9's appeal was in the conflict and resolution thereof, pitting various races that didn't interact too much before into a confined space and pretty much requiring them to work together in some fashion. Voyager offered a chance to see what the values of the Federation are actually worth when there is no Federation to rely on, and we had a chance to see a few new races with new social conflicts to bounce the characters off.
And then came Enterprise. And I didn't like it. Why? Because it blew the timeline apart. Making a prequel in scifi is hard. Usually one of the few things you cannot do is to introduce new races because, well, why don't they exist in what's supposed to be later times? The usual solution is either genocide or some time travel fuckups. Enterprise decided to not decide and just do both. I still think the smart thing to do would have been to rely on established, lesser used races, give them a new back story, make some of those that will later be allies enemies and run with it. It would certainly have been interesting because you already know that they will be allies in the future but how did you get there? How did you turn a bitter enemy into a later ally? That could again have offered some chance for some interesting social aspect, since we, as humans, are pretty much constantly in that problem. Former enemies become allies, former allies become enemies. It would actually have been interesting if the Klingons would have been more inclined to cooperate with the federation at first, only to see some blunder (preferably by T'Pol, just to make things interesting) piss them off to the point that they're still bitter enemies centuries later.
Anyway. Now this. I don't know, it just doesn't click. The characters come across less like a star fleet crew and more like a self-help group. They're busier trying to deal with their own personal problems than actually doing some kind of "space stuff". Don't get me wrong, it's actually refreshing to see characters in Star Trek that are more than cartoony hero cookie-cutter characters, but this is definitely overdoing it.
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Oh yeah? How about you link to some?
Moderation is censorship. It needs to stop.
No it isn't. Grow up you whiny little shit.
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The temporal cold war story was weak, but season 3 was mostly pretty good. It had potential, many of the classic Trek elements like reflecting the problems of today and exploring moral dilemmas...
For some reason they just couldn't hold it together though, too many bad episodes and ideas.
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Trek is strange in that the series with the most hammy acting and plots are somehow the best too. If TNG season 1 was made now it would have been cancelled after 8 episodes.
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"Star Trek Discovery" season 1 was such a boring mess of depressing blood-sweat-and-tears story diluted over way to many hours of airtime that I will rather wait for another Orville season to breathe some fresh air into the genre.
I think that people have forgotten how to mix fun with seriousness. Everything has to be drama drama drama and if they don't get their dopamine hit everything is lame.
I can't remember which episode it was when Kirk was explaining to the leaders of a population "You just make the decision. We won't kill Today!" humorous and serious at the same time.
My ism, it's full of beliefs.
Agreed. Complete stall when they first spoke about this tardigrade thing. OK, this is Sci Fi, but a minimum of credibility is required.
Beside that, The Orville is like a Star Trek clone / homage done right.
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The original Star Trek and most of its successors never really impressed me, but Discovery was a great change of pace for me. The way it included heavy moral choice and something more than 'all alien life can be distinguished by what is different about their forehead and ears' - i loved the whole thing. It might not be for everyone, but don't listen to all the skepticism, if you aren't a Trekkie, then this just might be a Sci-Fi show that you can enjoy.
Hello idiot publisher. "This video is not available". It's a FUCKING TRAILER. You protect the trailer from what exactly? Here's a clue: Business 101, you WANT as many people as possible to see your trailer and be interested in PAYING and seeing the full show.
I paid for and thoroughly enjoyed ST:D through Netflix.
I'll HAPPILY PIRATE THAT SHIT if you remove any legal means for me to see the show. Me: happy omnoming pizza and watching the pirated show. You: NO MONIES from me doing that.
Fuck you.
I would have kept watching Enterprise just for the Andorians.
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After all first-season episodes came out I binge-watched them all. I saw nothing that I recognized as the "Star Trek" that I knew. The main premise of the show, apparently, is that Discovery is powered by midichlorians. If you think I'm kidding, watch the whole thing yourself. Plus all the obvious pandering to the SJWs. Roddenberry knew how to address social issues of his day without being obvious, patronizing, or preaching; and with skill. Whoever wrote all that first-season crap doesn't know anything.
It wasn't long before my interest switched from the initial curiosity, to watching a flaming dumpster fire. In that respect, the show was actually watchable. But it was watchable mostly for the same reason I always look at gruesome highway wrecks, when going in the opposite direction. I can't wait to see the how awful season 2 will be.
"The Orville" is obviously a better Trek than "Discovery" could possibly be. Whichever clown is the executive producer of Discovery is not a Trekkie, doesn't know anything beyond having a cursory knowledge of awareness about what TOS was, and is only looking to generate revenue. McFarlane is a known Trekkie, and it shows. It shows to the extent that "The Orville" is not a rip-off, or a lame fan-fic; but a tribute, paying homeage to TOS. It manages to accurately capture and remake TOS, in every way including the overall, high level results: a few memorable episodes I would easily believe were penned by Roddenbery himself; a few forgettable turkeys, with the rest being watchable and interesting; but nothing special, and only die-hard nerds will ever care about them, years from now. Just like TOS was.
Discovery doesn't even come close. When the big reveal was unveiled, with pomp and fanfare (the one about Discovery being powered by midichlorians) the show became an instant dumpster fire, worth watching only for its dumpster fire factor.
I just can't get past that one, stopped watching about that point, havn't missed it since.
Orville is great though.
Is it any different than every other TNG-era episode invoking "phase converters" and "tachyon beams"? Or really, the whole "send a star ship into high warp around the sun to go back in time" introduced in TOS and invoked a number of times, including one of the movies. Yes, it was a bit jarring, but I think they dealt with it by the end of the season a lot better than Star Wars did with midichlorians in its prequels.
All in all I enjoyed it. I thought the overall pacing and storylines were rather good, and once I got used to the updated Klingons, I was able to get comfortable with it. The lead characters had a good chemistry, which is critical, and is largely why Voyager failed so badly. There are so many ways Discovery could have gone bad, like Enterprise did, but all in all it really isn't that bad.
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The temporal cold war story was weak, but season 3 was mostly pretty good. It had potential, many of the classic Trek elements like reflecting the problems of today and exploring moral dilemmas...
For some reason they just couldn't hold it together though, too many bad episodes and ideas.
This... the Temporal cold war story was where they lost me. This, to me, seemed like a TNG storyline that ended up on the cutting floor but was shoe-horned into the Archer timeline.
Between that and their devotion to the Prime Directive. The reason why this irked me is because even though the Prime Directive was in place during the Kirk timeline, he ignored it when it suited him. Why? Because when you are the weaker power (Klingons seemed to have a larger presence and, for the most part, stronger ships) in the universe you don't always have the luxury of a moral debate. We also had story lines where Kirk paid the price and learned why the Prime Directive was important. What they should have done is made Archer more of a cowboy than even Kirk with a gradual progression towards adherence to the Prime Directive as they made lasting mistakes and as the Federation grew.
The temporal cold war story was weak, but season 3 was mostly pretty good. It had potential, many of the classic Trek elements like reflecting the problems of today and exploring moral dilemmas...
Time travel can be ok for a single episode, but as the main plot device for most of a series ... it is crap. After seeing the pilot, I hoped that it would just be one or two episodes with that crap and the rest of the show would be classic episodic trek. No such luck. As I remember it, I found season 4 to be the best. Just make sure to skip the last episode.
It seemed that the Xindi attack against Earth and the ensuing war was a jab at the war on terror, but it fell flat for one, single reason: With their attack, the Xindi proved that they were an existential thread against Earth. Terrorism is not and never has been an existential thread against the US. Battlestar Galactica was much, much better at raising these questions in a thought provoking way.
The truth may be out there, but lies are inside your head
I really wanted ST:D to be good, I really did. But when the actors and producers started shitting on the fans on social media I could tell that there was going to be problems. And when the show finally did drop what we ended up with was a very pretty show with nice special affects, but with the writing that's more on par with garbage tear fan fiction.
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Sadly we have to wait till December 30th for the new Star Trek episodes. http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/u...
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Or likable. Why would you pick an actress for the main part that is such a horrible person that it shines through on screen? I understand trying to be edgy by picking someone gender-ambiguous and unpleasant, but not for the main character!
And the horrible theme song! :-(
But Enterprise was at least real Star Trek: full of optimism, exploring the rights and wrongs of the human condition when exposed to strange situations.
Discovery, OTOH, is just a dark-y wannabe scifi action series with exaggerated visuals
I would have kept watching Enterprise just for the Andorians.
The Andorians were one of the few really good things in Enterprise. Too few appereances though. It is worth watching those episodes with them, and a couple of others but by no means the whole 4 seasons of Enterprise.
Yeah, it's one of those things like the Holocaust, Enterprise or Voyager where it's not enough to just not watch it. Everyone connected with the show needs to hunted down, even to darkest Brazil where they are pretending to be dentists, brought back to civilisation and put on trial for crimes against humanity in order to dissuade future generations from trying to do the same thing.
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Ha! GP claims "quality post" yet somehow forgets to reference it in rant. I bet he'd like to revise the voting systems of the world. Complaining about the ONE thing that I believe keeps /. alive...APK is such a hoot, ain't he?
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Making this the alleged Crown Jewel of CBS online was stupid. I watched a stream from someplace else. Not putting it out over OTA or via Netlfix, which I already pay for is stupid. I'll probably find a stream again, but it's not worth an individual subscription.
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I really liked Enterprise. Or at least what it could have been. My only issue was casting Scott Bakula as his acting style has almost always rubbed me the wrong way. I like him in Quantum Leap but have not liked him since. The other chars were not so bad though, The dog was AWESOME and probably the 2nd best cast member after Connor Trinneer as Tucker,
Enterprise got good in Season 3, the first two were pretty bad. The first season was so bad I didn't even finish it and didn't get around to watching it again until 2008. Season 4 was also good but you can tell they piled in the next 3-4 seasons of ideas in the last half a season because they knew they were about to be cancelled, hence why is was good.
To me Bakula was OK, a little bland but OK. Connor Tinneer is the most annoying actor and character I've ever seen.
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I think that people have forgotten how to mix fun with seriousness. Everything has to be drama drama drama and if they don't get their dopamine hit everything is lame.
I can't remember which episode it was when Kirk was explaining to the leaders of a population "You just make the decision. We won't kill Today!" humorous and serious at the same time.
"A Taste of Armageddon". That quote, in longer form is one of my favorite TOS lines: "We're human beings with the blood of a million savage years on our hands, but we can stop it! We can admit that we're killers, but we're not going to kill today. That's all it takes... knowing that we won't kill today."
(Yes I had to look it up : ) )
Trip rocked! Named one of my dogs after him lol.
I love the cadence of how Kirk says it, "We won't kill, Today!" - total Shakespeare.
My ism, it's full of beliefs.