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Google Video Shows All-White Redesigns For Gmail, Google Photos, and More (arstechnica.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report: This year, Google is pushing out a major revamp to its Material Design guidelines. The new design language is slowly creeping across Google's portfolio, and so far we've seen big changes for Gmail.com, early builds of Chrome, and for Android P. The Android side of things has so far only been the base operating system, but now a new Google design video has surfaced that shows off new designs for Gmail, Google Photos, Google Trips, and Google Drive.

[...] The Gmail screens strip the app of its trademark red UI elements and give us a white bottom bar and white background. The phone inbox shows attached documents and even has large thumbnails for images. The message screen appears to show attachments on a horizontal scrolling carousel, which looks a lot like the horizontally scrolling news articles in the Google Feed. This screen again places the important controls down at the bottom of the screen, where a bottom bar houses the usual "Mark as Read," "Delete," "Archive," and "Reply All" buttons. We even get to see the compose screen for a second, which shows previous replies above your compose field.

105 comments

  1. Material Design Sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why an all white background?

    1. Re: Material Design Sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Otherwise you might be comfortable looking at it.

      Hopefully they will put light gray text over the white background, white borders, and white title bar.

      Maybe it is for better compatibility with CGA monitors, but even on those you get four fucking colors.

    2. Re:Material Design Sucks by denzacar · · Score: 1

      To promote development of apps used to turn it all to "night" mode.
      Perhaps even time and location dependent.

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    3. Re: Material Design Sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Microsoft did right for a change with Visual Studio Code's interface. Very easy on the eyes.

    4. Re:Material Design Sucks by pete6677 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Because stupid hipster designers have to ruin everything. God forbid any modern app be usable, it must only be stylish.

    5. Re: Material Design Sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      CGA can do 16 colours in text mode or 4 in graphics mode. If you're using composite out on a CGA card, you can simulate more than 4 colours in graphics mode.

    6. Re:Material Design Sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Because if there is anything worse than the current GUI, it is the "new improved" - and, by definition, unuseable, GUI

      This is ALWAYS true.

      Someone should explain to GUI designers that they should go in a corner, curl up and die. We need new GUIs when we have a new world (ie after the end of this one - as explained in the Book of Revelations).

    7. Re:Material Design Sucks by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 1

      Gmail already requires that you Google how to do certain basic operations that are a single mouse click away on most mailers (right-click on the flat coloured area at the top right, then choose X, then click on the bottom part of the coloured region in the dialog, then hold down Alt + Ctrl and click on the thin line at the left, and hey presto, you've found Reply All). By making it even less intuitive, they're increasing the use of their search engine, which means more advertising revenue for them. Simple.

    8. Re: Material Design Sucks by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      No it isn't, it's awful, low contrast and very hard on the eyes.

      Anything which is light text on dark background only works in dark basements with backlit keyboards.

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    9. Re: Material Design Sucks by hviezda14 · · Score: 1

      You Can turn on the keyboard control with gmail. Witch this enabled, "Reply to all" is done with pressing the "a" key. This is easyiest.

    10. Re:Material Design Sucks by tippen · · Score: 1

      Or you could just click the "Reply All" button that's right below the email. It's conveniently between the "Reply" and "Forward" buttons.

      Material Design sucks, but let's stick to the ways it actually sucks instead of making crap up.

    11. Re: Material Design Sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So we're talking interface colors now. It has come to this.

      Last year it was the glue used in processors. Today colors.

      Tomorrow? We clearly got nothing.

    12. Re:Material Design Sucks by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 1

      By making it even less intuitive, they're increasing the use of their search engine, which means more advertising revenue for them. Simple.

      Genius!

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    13. Re: Material Design Sucks by Z80a · · Score: 1

      You certainly can, but the text gets quite unreadable.

    14. Re: Material Design Sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh, no. CGA in text mode looks just as clear as EGA or VGA (which also display 16 colours in text mode). It's not a special or undocumented mode.

    15. Re: Material Design Sucks by Z80a · · Score: 1

      I meant in the composite output.

    16. Re:Material Design Sucks by mcswell · · Score: 1

      Somebody over on Ars explained this: it's so you can use your GMail app as a flashlight. After all, it's not like you'll want to write your emails on this.

    17. Re:Material Design Sucks by mcswell · · Score: 1

      Tail fins on cars is a good example of this: http://historygarage.com/futur...

    18. Re: Material Design Sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh yeah. It's a bit blurry but still readable since graphics mode text tends to be larger.

      King's Quest on composite CGA

    19. Re: Material Design Sucks by Z80a · · Score: 1

      Quite good i suppose.
      I bet there are some color combinations that are just unreadable, but probably none with an all white background.

  2. All White? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What about my browsers of another color?

    Can you dig it?

    1. Re: All White? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Too busy raping and shooting each other.

    2. Re: All White? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      #BlackDesignsMatter

    3. Re: All White? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, maybe you need to stop opposing their rights as redblooded American males.

    4. Re: All White? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They aren't American males. They're outdated farm equipment.

  3. Light-grey text on white?! by hazem · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What is this horrible fascination with light grey text on white backgrounds?

    1. Re:Light-grey text on white?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because that's all they have in FEDERAL PRISON? (Sorry Trumpies)

    2. Re:Light-grey text on white?! by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Art skills ie like to show their GUI work every few years.
      Recall NeXT, Mosaic, web-safe colors. Type that was black.
      The change could be for display, quality (lcd), a mobile phone? A push to natural colors?

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    3. Re:Light-grey text on white?! by LowestKey · · Score: 1

      Guess it helps drive people to chrome addons that prevent webpages from burning out their retinas. Pretty happy with TLV so far, if not a little quirky. Still, would be very nice if more of these blindingly white websites would give a dark option.

    4. Re:Light-grey text on white?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      23 yr old graphics designers with perfect vision and great monitors

    5. Re:Light-grey text on white?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's wrong! That's what it is!

    6. Re:Light-grey text on white?! by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Great monitors would show black and more black would be used. NeXT quality in 2018.

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    7. Re:Light-grey text on white?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The change could be for display, quality (lcd), a mobile phone? A push to natural colors?

      Nah, just some PHB's stating "Make it look CompetitorBrand's website".

    8. Re:Light-grey text on white?! by Maxwell'sSilverLART · · Score: 2

      "‘It’s the wild colour scheme that freaks me out,’ said Zaphod, whose love affair with the ship had lasted almost three minutes into the flight. 'Every time you try and operate these weird black controls that are labeled in black on a black background, a little black light lights up in black to let you know you’ve done it.’"

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    9. Re: Light-grey text on white?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Firefox now looks exactly like Chrome

    10. Re:Light-grey text on white?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What is this horrible fascination with light grey text on white backgrounds?

      Honestly, it's just yet another symptom in the down slope to even shittier interfaces designed by morons where everything in the world is a tablet, phone, or webpage.

      Everything from Windows to pretty much most native apps are suffering from this. Huge chunks of whitespace around things, unused space where they just don't put content, or dumbing down interfaces for teenagers with smart phones.

      It's especially frustrating to be sitting in front of a multi-monitor setup on a desktop with a screen which has been maximised, and a huge chunk of the screen is unused. Google did this with their News, going away from the ability to have 2 columns of stories, or apparently the ability to have custom sections.

      I look at Google News these days in a full screen browser on a large monitor, and fully 50% of the screen is just dead space. The information density is half of what it used to be.

      About 25 years ago, a friend said that the web had pushed back user interface design by 20 years. And now, apps are doing that even further.

      My only conclusion is the people who design interfaces are drooling idiots, designing interfaces for drooling idiots. And with each iteration the utility of an interface if you're still on a desktop gets even worse.

      Even Office has been doing this .. an increasingly flat looking interface which looks like a bad web page, not a native desktop application.

      The fascination with bad backgrounds is just a further step in making lowest-common-denominator interfaces optimised for small touch screens. It's lots of marketing and style, but very little substance and utility.

      Personally, I absolutely loathe modern interfaces on a desktop. Because they are no longer useful for navigating with a mouse.

    11. Re: Light-grey text on white?! by DarkRookie · · Score: 1

      Everything looks like Chrome.
      Opera and Brave being two as well of the top of my head.

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    12. Re:Light-grey text on white?! by mcswell · · Score: 1

      My first "large" (meaning > 80x25 characters) computer screen used black and grey on white. That was in 1985. (SparcStation, not Mac) So here we are, a little > 30 years later, and we're sending you Back...to the Past!

      (To be honest, you said grey on white, not black and grey on white. And you're right; on the old email design, there was a boldish/blackish font and a greyish font, and I think they were used to distinguish whether you'd read a particular message or not. Beats me how you're supposed to know that in the new design.)

  4. We need an All-White Redesign... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Of this planet.

  5. Breaking news! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Site X got a theme update

  6. Good choice, Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    White Power!

    1. Re:Good choice, Google by Tablizer · · Score: 2

      White Power!

      Let's counter with an ethnic look. I personally dig Mayan art. I can see it with a sort of Next Generation (Trek) feel.

  7. Don't get me started ... by mnemotronic · · Score: 1, Funny

    Don't get me started ...
    All white? The rich old white man approach? .... insert various political references ...

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    1. Re: Don't get me started ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes because anyone questioning the brave new world of social justice is a nazi.

    2. Re: Don't get me started ... by datavirtue · · Score: 1

      He isn't white

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    3. Re: Don't get me started ... by kiminator · · Score: 0, Troll

      Usually I start calling them Nazis when they start going on about the evils of the Jews in the same breath that they talk badly about Muslims or immigrants, claim that the holocaust didn't really happen or wasn't all that bad, or start using Nazi code language like "14" or "88".

    4. Re: Don't get me started ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oof! You got your facts in my social justice!!

  8. The problem with an all white design is... by cjellibebi · · Score: 1

    that everything will have the colour #FFFFFF, which means everything will be invisible.

    This reminds me of the Douglas Adams novel "Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency" when an electric monk got stuck because he believed everything was pink and therefore everything was indistinguishable from everything else, so he got stuck because he couldn't 'see' any obstacles, until he stopped believing it.

    1. Re: The problem with an all white design is... by ElitistWhiner · · Score: 2

      It called â Snowblindâ(TM). It occurs when the background is white, foreground is a few grayscale shades off-white and the screen, book or map is also within the same grayscale range.

      Driving this occurs not only in whiteout snow conditions. It also happens in fog, cloud filled conditions in mountainous terrain and night time driving where inversions fill-in lower altitudes.

      You develop blindness driving, then look down at you map or white phone depiction of a route and itâ(TM)s blind to you. You cannot see a thing.

    2. Re:The problem with an all white design is... by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      everything will have the colour #FFFFFF...

      That's the sound I started making when I first saw the design.

  9. Ain't broke don't fuck with it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Learn it google. Really.

  10. Vintage Green on Black Must Be Revolutionary! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All that color space going to waste. Heck, if they're going to go minimal on color, at least go with colors that make sense, such as green on black.

    1. Re: Vintage Green on Black Must Be Revolutionary! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Like think of all the time you could have been looking at beautiful things instead of this eye poison.

    2. Re:Vintage Green on Black Must Be Revolutionary! by AHuxley · · Score: 3, Funny

      My eye strain! The amber CRT screens do nothing!

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    3. Re:Vintage Green on Black Must Be Revolutionary! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My eye strain! The amber CRT screens do nothing!

      I've tried to use some bias lighting lately, which basically means that when you look around your monitor your average light level doesn't change drastically. Of course at some point you get to using a large tv or enough monitors and, well its almost redundant.

      Beyond that I prefer light on dark, though it need not be totally black. I also tend to deemphasize blue when picking colors. Sometimes you are just out of colors and need to use it, but it isn't one you want to expose people to a lot of. In C# I've been picking AntiqueWhite a lot instead of White for font colors, since its a bit warmer. I actually looked it up just now and it actually subtracts more from green than blue, but subtracts from both significantly. For wallpaper you again don't want something super bright. Something mid toned in with a lot of green is likely reasonable on eyes, or at least that is my experience.

      SegoeUI is about ideal font wise for readability, likely because that is the point. When I need fixed point, then consolas is pretty much it.

      The thing about them saying they are going to an all white scheme, is why? They have more than enough people at google to handle a few css templates. Let it follow your login, or at least be optional.

      That is what css and similar is for..

    4. Re:Vintage Green on Black Must Be Revolutionary! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have been deemed a deviant and a subversive element. The black helicopters will arrive shortly.

  11. Anyone surprised? by CharlesAKAChuck · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's some sort of plot by Google to get people to quit using their services, I think.

    Google Finance - used to be really good, loads of information, very useful. Now, it's a whole lot of white space with not a lot else. No need to visit that page any more.

    Google News - used to be really good, loads of information, very useful. Now, it's a whole lot of white space with not a lot else. No need to visit that page any more.

    Google home page - well okay, that one should be a lot of white space and a search box, I'll give them that one.

    1. Re:Anyone surprised? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thank god updates will be very difficult to get, unless you buy a new device. Oh the irony

    2. Re: Anyone surprised? by datavirtue · · Score: 1

      I dont know but these new slashdot owners and know how to pull our chain

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    3. Re:Anyone surprised? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It looks to me like the work of the "UX cabal".

      Currently working on a "UX-led" project where the spec calls for less text than this post on screen at a time, because "users have a short attention span". Maybe true, but I don't see how splitting text over a thousand horizontally swipe-able fake pages is a better "experience" than one page that scrolls vertically...

    4. Re:Anyone surprised? by Mashiki · · Score: 3, Funny

      This is what happens when you move from providing a useful product to people with lots of options that are easy to configure. To providing a "tailored user experience" which tells you what they want you to hear, while hiding those useful options that were once easy to configure.

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    5. Re: Anyone surprised? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Regarding google's search page: behind the white stuff is black stuff.

      Use startpage.com

      It removes the black stuff.

      It is easier to change preferences on, too. (I find nowadays I have to type "Advanced Search" into google to get google advanced search. Bizarre.)

    6. Re:Anyone surprised? by TheDarkMaster · · Score: 1

      My guess is that the "new guys" are not competent enough to make an interface that responds to useful settings (like the old guys), so their response is to remove all these options that they are not good enough to implement. See for example the case of Skype: Version 7 had several configurable options to meet a wide range of users, while the version 8 have virtually nothing and force users to use the same pattern they like it or not.

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    7. Re:Anyone surprised? by OneHundredAndTen · · Score: 1

      Google home page - well okay, that one should be a lot of white space and a search box, I'll give them that one.

      I prefer it with a lot of dark space and a search box. Thankfully, there are solutions for this. Imperfect ones, but better than the alternative.

    8. Re:Anyone surprised? by nightfire-unique · · Score: 1

      I used to keep Google Finance open on a tab or two every day, all day. The "redesign" was the first thing that has steered me to a Yahoo product in 10 years.

      Yahoo Finance is actually surprisingly good. In the end, hopefully Google's "UX designers" will cost them a fortune and force a shake-up of the industry.

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    9. Re:Anyone surprised? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Google Finance - used to be really good, loads of information, very useful. Now, it's a whole lot of white space with not a lot else. Sad!

      Google News - used to be really good, loads of information, very useful. Now, it's a whole lot of white space with not a lot else. Sad!

      Are you trying to channel Trump here on purpose? FTFY anyway.

  12. Fugly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey google. Nobody likes material.

    The new gmail interface sucks ass

    1. Re:Fugly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's nice on smartphones where they are forced to not have any empty space and where hamburger menus are a nice swipe gesture, it's horrible on desktops/laptops and sometimes even rather bad even on tablets with too much empty space.

  13. And I used to love Gmail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm not a fan of a new Gmail web design (I'm trying it out on my test "@gmail.com" account) and this just carries that bad design into the mobile space. I loved the old red and white design. The icons were readable, and the color made it feel friendly. The all grey-on-white design looks kind of stark and lonely.

    Too bad.

  14. For those of us who work in darker rooms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!
    There is nothing worse than trying to read text at 2 in the morning on a goddamn flashlight! These assholes are attempting to destroy our eyes, and should have theirs plucked out in response. It is self defense.

  15. Google Maps! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I absolutely hate the Grey and white layout of Google Maps. Hey Google, increase your contrast!

  16. Dark mode by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Consider this an official request from night owls across the globe. Screw your blaring white "wow I can see this in direct sunlight" scheme.

  17. but they are all white, sir. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No, there are five that are white and five that are slightly brighter white.

  18. Original Mac called, wants its look back by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What is this horrible fascination with light grey text on white backgrounds?

    It started out with the horrible fascination with the "flat" style whereby it was hard to tell buttons from boxes etc. It was hard to use, but art trumped* function.

    But they were not satisfied whacking shadows and shading, they had to whack colors also. At this pace, we'll go back to monochrome uni-spaced character-mode UI's. Keep your ASCII art; it may get you a promotion from a young PHB who won't realize it's from 1982. "Wow, this is so modern and stylish. Good job! And can I have a copy of that 'visi calc' software you showed me? It's totally cray!"

    After all, I've seen disco come back twice in my lifetime. UI fads seem in the same category as clothing and music fads. Oh right, it's not "UI" but "UX" now. Experience this!:

    Git off my flat light-grey lawn! (drought made such fashionable)

    * "T" word not intended to be connected with you-know-who.

    1. Re:Original Mac called, wants its look back by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Flat UI sucks for a real app because of the loss of productivity.

      But it's great for websites that show ads so they can claim people spend more tests on the page. Even if that time is spent actually looking for navigation controls.

      Some websites are really evil because they allow ads that look like their navigation links, and don't do anything to highlight the real links. A stray ad click is their business model, because they know you'll eventually come back to try again and hopefully still get what you came for. If they even have it for real.

      So Gmail... Is this bad taste or are they getting ready to be more evil?

    2. Re:Original Mac called, wants its look back by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      I suppose obfuscation can indeed increase ad clicks.

      User: "Hmm, is this a button, or an ad?" *click*

      Page: "Congratulations on your Lamborghini purchase!"

      But why do pages intended to be for productivity copy the click-bait designs? Probably because "every one else is doing it".

      My parents used to ask, "Just because everyone else is jumping off a cliff, does that mean you should also?"

      Gullible UI/UX selectors will say, "Yes! Let me get a running start..."

  19. Spoof needed by aberglas · · Score: 1

    An all white UI with invisible icons that need to be activated using weird gestures. When you hover the mouse in just the right way some parts of the display become pale grey.

    If only I had the time to make it. But then again, maybe Google will do this for me in their next release.

  20. Aside from the white by maglor_83 · · Score: 1

    I do like that they have moved the menu/search button to the bottom, where it's easily reachable one-handed.

  21. White-on-white by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm still waiting for white-on-white / "everything" white UX. White text on a white background. White buttons & controls. Oh yeah.

  22. White power by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    White is might; white is right.

  23. Information loss by zdzichu · · Score: 1

    Gmail app redesign shows even less information than before. Years ago gmail app displayed about dozen emails on one screen. During the last redesign they limited it to 6-7 emails. This white redesign shows 3 (and a half) emails. This smells like a ploy to make people stop using it.

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  24. Design language by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When I read "design language", I have associations of torture and other crimes against Humanity.

    I'm glad I avoid Google as much as I can.

  25. I asked a friend if it was any good? by MrKaos · · Score: 2

    He said it was all-white. I thought he had a lisp.

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    1. Re:I asked a friend if it was any good? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He said it was all-white. I thought he had a lisp.

      For reference, that's not a lisp, that's rhotacism.

      A lisp is what Sylvester the Cat has (a lateral one I believe) and interferes with 's' and 'z' sounds.

      Cheers

    2. Re:I asked a friend if it was any good? by sapped · · Score: 1

      What the hell? I thought it was bad enough that they had an "S" in the name so that someone who lisps cannot accurately name their own condtion. Now, I discover a whole new condition for people who struggle to say the letter "R" (in English at least) and what do they put in the name!?

    3. Re:I asked a friend if it was any good? by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      He said it was all-white. I thought he had a lisp.

      Rolling Sthones: "Ith all white now, in fact ith a gath!"

      (This is after Barry Kripke joined the band)

  26. Yay, a lot less on the screen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I hate changes like this - you now have a list that isn't a list and is becoming more like a 'view every email' mode. I see a lot less emails the new way and it's less easy to parse. Another triumph for someones sketchbook/CV over actual f*cking usefulness.

    I like the list view as it crams all the info into a view and I can quickly scroll through a ton of emails to pick out only the ones I am interested in. No filter works, no grouping works. I just want a list.

    Now, instead I have to see f*cking pictures, a lot less in the list and have to scroll more. It's not ideal, and I *REALLY* hope that this can be turned off. Whilst I applaud trying to take their apps/platform forwards, I hate the reduction in ease of use.

    Oh yes, and then there's the burn your eyes with white theme. What's the f*cking fascination with that? Oh, it looks pretty rather than making it easy to parse, again a triumph for 'looks nice' over using it.

    Fortunately these things have a habit of forcing people to consider using, and searching for alternatives (which, as they are trying to be better, place use over 'looking nice')

    Go search for alternatives! You are not forced to use gmail.

    1. Re:Yay, a lot less on the screen by tippen · · Score: 1

      Settings -> Display Density -> Compact

      Not quite as dense as pre-Material Design, but reasonably close.

  27. I bet James Damore approves! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Shame they can't make them all male and republican to keep the big nosed fucking freak happy!

  28. obHitchhikersGuide by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 2

    "It's so ... white!" he said. "Like, white buttons and text on a white background. It's so white that light just seems to fall out of it!"

  29. Institutional racism! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Clearly this is yet another example of Institutional racism that must be stamped out. We can not have anything "All white". Clearly if the injustice of slavery had never happened the superior "All black" option would be the only one available.

  30. Obviously... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...because they are racist.

  31. Because everybody was screaming for it by OneHundredAndTen · · Score: 1

    Or might it be because the GUI people have to justify their paychecks? How long has it been since the GUI problem, with the type of hardware generally used, has been solved? 15 or 20 years?

    1. Re:Because everybody was screaming for it by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1

      Or might it be because the GUI people have to justify their paychecks? How long has it been since the GUI problem, with the type of hardware generally used, has been solved? 15 or 20 years?

      I think this is a factor in a lot of fields. Change for change's sake.

      For example, we have to reinvent grade school education all the time. After all, the tried and true methods won't get anybody their PhD with "original research".

  32. Blinding bright at 3AM by Virtex · · Score: 1

    All these designers who think white backgrounds are a good idea should be forced to be oncall where they get paged every night at 2 or 3am and are forced to stare into a screen that has the brightness of a thousand suns so they can understand the pain I go through every time I have to do the same, which is most nights. And then maybe they will understand just how painful those white screens are when your eyes are adjusted to the dark and how once they adjust to the 8 million lumens of light you won't be getting back to sleep any time soon. This really needs to happen. Unsurprisingly, dark screens don't create the same kinds of problems, but do I get any dark screens at 3am? Listen, being oncall and getting paged in the middle of the night is bad enough, so let's not make it 10x worse with your stupid white screens, ok? Is that too much to ask? Apparently it is.

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    1. Re:Blinding bright at 3AM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I like flux: https://justgetflux.com/

  33. Overlit workspaces damage your eyes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A white page is a searchlight aimed at your eyeballs. I've been preferentially using light text on dark backgrounds since the 1970s in order to pamper my eyes; it works.

    But most workspaces are stupidly and wastefully overlighted, so you need a searchlight to be able to see anything.

    1. Re:Overlit workspaces damage your eyes by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      If you work in an illuminated room then you simply adjust the "searchlight" to be the same brightness as your surroundings. It's not difficult.

      Using a black background in even a moderately illuminated room wreaks havoc on your eyes. Try it. Look at your darkened screen for 20 seconds then look at a white wall. Notice anything?

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  34. White vs black power usage by gx5000 · · Score: 1

    Once you go Black, you ....are happy the text is white and you're saving battery power. DHUH

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  35. Whelp... by DarkRookie · · Score: 1

    This is getting worse and worse. I am going to be trying Zoho. Seen that pop up on this site a few times as recommendations.
    I have held off trying to get a different email service just because of ALL the stuff attached to the GMail one.

    My Google account is pretty much going to be for YouTube to unblock videos with bad words and the Play Store.

    Unless there is a good replacement for that y'all can recommend.

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  36. It's about money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The only possible reason I can see for this new idiotic direction of design is the most obvious: it requires less power to process and you can sell junkier hardware to people and claim it is faster than the old stuff. That new two color UI just screams through, now you can get those ads loaded and running faster than ever!

    1. Re:It's about money by DarkRookie · · Score: 1

      They already sell junk hardware and claim it faster than the old stuff.

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  37. My eyes!!!! by BLToday · · Score: 1

    "The goggles do nothing!"

    Everyone is going dark, even Youtube. I'm glad Google is doing something different but this is really straining my eyes.