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Google Video Shows All-White Redesigns For Gmail, Google Photos, and More (arstechnica.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report: This year, Google is pushing out a major revamp to its Material Design guidelines. The new design language is slowly creeping across Google's portfolio, and so far we've seen big changes for Gmail.com, early builds of Chrome, and for Android P. The Android side of things has so far only been the base operating system, but now a new Google design video has surfaced that shows off new designs for Gmail, Google Photos, Google Trips, and Google Drive.

[...] The Gmail screens strip the app of its trademark red UI elements and give us a white bottom bar and white background. The phone inbox shows attached documents and even has large thumbnails for images. The message screen appears to show attachments on a horizontal scrolling carousel, which looks a lot like the horizontally scrolling news articles in the Google Feed. This screen again places the important controls down at the bottom of the screen, where a bottom bar houses the usual "Mark as Read," "Delete," "Archive," and "Reply All" buttons. We even get to see the compose screen for a second, which shows previous replies above your compose field.

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  1. Light-grey text on white?! by hazem · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What is this horrible fascination with light grey text on white backgrounds?

    1. Re:Light-grey text on white?! by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Art skills ie like to show their GUI work every few years.
      Recall NeXT, Mosaic, web-safe colors. Type that was black.
      The change could be for display, quality (lcd), a mobile phone? A push to natural colors?

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    2. Re:Light-grey text on white?! by LowestKey · · Score: 1

      Guess it helps drive people to chrome addons that prevent webpages from burning out their retinas. Pretty happy with TLV so far, if not a little quirky. Still, would be very nice if more of these blindingly white websites would give a dark option.

    3. Re:Light-grey text on white?! by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Great monitors would show black and more black would be used. NeXT quality in 2018.

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    4. Re:Light-grey text on white?! by Maxwell'sSilverLART · · Score: 2

      "‘It’s the wild colour scheme that freaks me out,’ said Zaphod, whose love affair with the ship had lasted almost three minutes into the flight. 'Every time you try and operate these weird black controls that are labeled in black on a black background, a little black light lights up in black to let you know you’ve done it.’"

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    5. Re:Light-grey text on white?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What is this horrible fascination with light grey text on white backgrounds?

      Honestly, it's just yet another symptom in the down slope to even shittier interfaces designed by morons where everything in the world is a tablet, phone, or webpage.

      Everything from Windows to pretty much most native apps are suffering from this. Huge chunks of whitespace around things, unused space where they just don't put content, or dumbing down interfaces for teenagers with smart phones.

      It's especially frustrating to be sitting in front of a multi-monitor setup on a desktop with a screen which has been maximised, and a huge chunk of the screen is unused. Google did this with their News, going away from the ability to have 2 columns of stories, or apparently the ability to have custom sections.

      I look at Google News these days in a full screen browser on a large monitor, and fully 50% of the screen is just dead space. The information density is half of what it used to be.

      About 25 years ago, a friend said that the web had pushed back user interface design by 20 years. And now, apps are doing that even further.

      My only conclusion is the people who design interfaces are drooling idiots, designing interfaces for drooling idiots. And with each iteration the utility of an interface if you're still on a desktop gets even worse.

      Even Office has been doing this .. an increasingly flat looking interface which looks like a bad web page, not a native desktop application.

      The fascination with bad backgrounds is just a further step in making lowest-common-denominator interfaces optimised for small touch screens. It's lots of marketing and style, but very little substance and utility.

      Personally, I absolutely loathe modern interfaces on a desktop. Because they are no longer useful for navigating with a mouse.

    6. Re: Light-grey text on white?! by DarkRookie · · Score: 1

      Everything looks like Chrome.
      Opera and Brave being two as well of the top of my head.

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    7. Re:Light-grey text on white?! by mcswell · · Score: 1

      My first "large" (meaning > 80x25 characters) computer screen used black and grey on white. That was in 1985. (SparcStation, not Mac) So here we are, a little > 30 years later, and we're sending you Back...to the Past!

      (To be honest, you said grey on white, not black and grey on white. And you're right; on the old email design, there was a boldish/blackish font and a greyish font, and I think they were used to distinguish whether you'd read a particular message or not. Beats me how you're supposed to know that in the new design.)

  2. Don't get me started ... by mnemotronic · · Score: 1, Funny

    Don't get me started ...
    All white? The rich old white man approach? .... insert various political references ...

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    1. Re: Don't get me started ... by datavirtue · · Score: 1

      He isn't white

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  3. The problem with an all white design is... by cjellibebi · · Score: 1

    that everything will have the colour #FFFFFF, which means everything will be invisible.

    This reminds me of the Douglas Adams novel "Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency" when an electric monk got stuck because he believed everything was pink and therefore everything was indistinguishable from everything else, so he got stuck because he couldn't 'see' any obstacles, until he stopped believing it.

    1. Re: The problem with an all white design is... by ElitistWhiner · · Score: 2

      It called â Snowblindâ(TM). It occurs when the background is white, foreground is a few grayscale shades off-white and the screen, book or map is also within the same grayscale range.

      Driving this occurs not only in whiteout snow conditions. It also happens in fog, cloud filled conditions in mountainous terrain and night time driving where inversions fill-in lower altitudes.

      You develop blindness driving, then look down at you map or white phone depiction of a route and itâ(TM)s blind to you. You cannot see a thing.

    2. Re:The problem with an all white design is... by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      everything will have the colour #FFFFFF...

      That's the sound I started making when I first saw the design.

  4. Re: Material Design Sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Otherwise you might be comfortable looking at it.

    Hopefully they will put light gray text over the white background, white borders, and white title bar.

    Maybe it is for better compatibility with CGA monitors, but even on those you get four fucking colors.

  5. Anyone surprised? by CharlesAKAChuck · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's some sort of plot by Google to get people to quit using their services, I think.

    Google Finance - used to be really good, loads of information, very useful. Now, it's a whole lot of white space with not a lot else. No need to visit that page any more.

    Google News - used to be really good, loads of information, very useful. Now, it's a whole lot of white space with not a lot else. No need to visit that page any more.

    Google home page - well okay, that one should be a lot of white space and a search box, I'll give them that one.

    1. Re: Anyone surprised? by datavirtue · · Score: 1

      I dont know but these new slashdot owners and know how to pull our chain

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    2. Re:Anyone surprised? by Mashiki · · Score: 3, Funny

      This is what happens when you move from providing a useful product to people with lots of options that are easy to configure. To providing a "tailored user experience" which tells you what they want you to hear, while hiding those useful options that were once easy to configure.

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    3. Re:Anyone surprised? by TheDarkMaster · · Score: 1

      My guess is that the "new guys" are not competent enough to make an interface that responds to useful settings (like the old guys), so their response is to remove all these options that they are not good enough to implement. See for example the case of Skype: Version 7 had several configurable options to meet a wide range of users, while the version 8 have virtually nothing and force users to use the same pattern they like it or not.

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    4. Re:Anyone surprised? by OneHundredAndTen · · Score: 1

      Google home page - well okay, that one should be a lot of white space and a search box, I'll give them that one.

      I prefer it with a lot of dark space and a search box. Thankfully, there are solutions for this. Imperfect ones, but better than the alternative.

    5. Re:Anyone surprised? by nightfire-unique · · Score: 1

      I used to keep Google Finance open on a tab or two every day, all day. The "redesign" was the first thing that has steered me to a Yahoo product in 10 years.

      Yahoo Finance is actually surprisingly good. In the end, hopefully Google's "UX designers" will cost them a fortune and force a shake-up of the industry.

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  6. Re:Vintage Green on Black Must Be Revolutionary! by AHuxley · · Score: 3, Funny

    My eye strain! The amber CRT screens do nothing!

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  7. Original Mac called, wants its look back by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What is this horrible fascination with light grey text on white backgrounds?

    It started out with the horrible fascination with the "flat" style whereby it was hard to tell buttons from boxes etc. It was hard to use, but art trumped* function.

    But they were not satisfied whacking shadows and shading, they had to whack colors also. At this pace, we'll go back to monochrome uni-spaced character-mode UI's. Keep your ASCII art; it may get you a promotion from a young PHB who won't realize it's from 1982. "Wow, this is so modern and stylish. Good job! And can I have a copy of that 'visi calc' software you showed me? It's totally cray!"

    After all, I've seen disco come back twice in my lifetime. UI fads seem in the same category as clothing and music fads. Oh right, it's not "UI" but "UX" now. Experience this!:

    Git off my flat light-grey lawn! (drought made such fashionable)

    * "T" word not intended to be connected with you-know-who.

    1. Re:Original Mac called, wants its look back by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      I suppose obfuscation can indeed increase ad clicks.

      User: "Hmm, is this a button, or an ad?" *click*

      Page: "Congratulations on your Lamborghini purchase!"

      But why do pages intended to be for productivity copy the click-bait designs? Probably because "every one else is doing it".

      My parents used to ask, "Just because everyone else is jumping off a cliff, does that mean you should also?"

      Gullible UI/UX selectors will say, "Yes! Let me get a running start..."

  8. Re:Good choice, Google by Tablizer · · Score: 2

    White Power!

    Let's counter with an ethnic look. I personally dig Mayan art. I can see it with a sort of Next Generation (Trek) feel.

  9. Re:Material Design Sucks by denzacar · · Score: 1

    To promote development of apps used to turn it all to "night" mode.
    Perhaps even time and location dependent.

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  10. Spoof needed by aberglas · · Score: 1

    An all white UI with invisible icons that need to be activated using weird gestures. When you hover the mouse in just the right way some parts of the display become pale grey.

    If only I had the time to make it. But then again, maybe Google will do this for me in their next release.

  11. Aside from the white by maglor_83 · · Score: 1

    I do like that they have moved the menu/search button to the bottom, where it's easily reachable one-handed.

  12. Re:Material Design Sucks by pete6677 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Because stupid hipster designers have to ruin everything. God forbid any modern app be usable, it must only be stylish.

  13. Information loss by zdzichu · · Score: 1

    Gmail app redesign shows even less information than before. Years ago gmail app displayed about dozen emails on one screen. During the last redesign they limited it to 6-7 emails. This white redesign shows 3 (and a half) emails. This smells like a ploy to make people stop using it.

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  14. Re:Material Design Sucks by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 1

    Gmail already requires that you Google how to do certain basic operations that are a single mouse click away on most mailers (right-click on the flat coloured area at the top right, then choose X, then click on the bottom part of the coloured region in the dialog, then hold down Alt + Ctrl and click on the thin line at the left, and hey presto, you've found Reply All). By making it even less intuitive, they're increasing the use of their search engine, which means more advertising revenue for them. Simple.

  15. I asked a friend if it was any good? by MrKaos · · Score: 2

    He said it was all-white. I thought he had a lisp.

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    1. Re:I asked a friend if it was any good? by sapped · · Score: 1

      What the hell? I thought it was bad enough that they had an "S" in the name so that someone who lisps cannot accurately name their own condtion. Now, I discover a whole new condition for people who struggle to say the letter "R" (in English at least) and what do they put in the name!?

    2. Re:I asked a friend if it was any good? by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      He said it was all-white. I thought he had a lisp.

      Rolling Sthones: "Ith all white now, in fact ith a gath!"

      (This is after Barry Kripke joined the band)

  16. Re: Material Design Sucks by Joce640k · · Score: 1

    No it isn't, it's awful, low contrast and very hard on the eyes.

    Anything which is light text on dark background only works in dark basements with backlit keyboards.

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  17. obHitchhikersGuide by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 2

    "It's so ... white!" he said. "Like, white buttons and text on a white background. It's so white that light just seems to fall out of it!"

  18. Re: Material Design Sucks by hviezda14 · · Score: 1

    You Can turn on the keyboard control with gmail. Witch this enabled, "Reply to all" is done with pressing the "a" key. This is easyiest.

  19. Re:Material Design Sucks by tippen · · Score: 1

    Or you could just click the "Reply All" button that's right below the email. It's conveniently between the "Reply" and "Forward" buttons.

    Material Design sucks, but let's stick to the ways it actually sucks instead of making crap up.

  20. Re:Yay, a lot less on the screen by tippen · · Score: 1

    Settings -> Display Density -> Compact

    Not quite as dense as pre-Material Design, but reasonably close.

  21. Because everybody was screaming for it by OneHundredAndTen · · Score: 1

    Or might it be because the GUI people have to justify their paychecks? How long has it been since the GUI problem, with the type of hardware generally used, has been solved? 15 or 20 years?

    1. Re:Because everybody was screaming for it by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1

      Or might it be because the GUI people have to justify their paychecks? How long has it been since the GUI problem, with the type of hardware generally used, has been solved? 15 or 20 years?

      I think this is a factor in a lot of fields. Change for change's sake.

      For example, we have to reinvent grade school education all the time. After all, the tried and true methods won't get anybody their PhD with "original research".

  22. Blinding bright at 3AM by Virtex · · Score: 1

    All these designers who think white backgrounds are a good idea should be forced to be oncall where they get paged every night at 2 or 3am and are forced to stare into a screen that has the brightness of a thousand suns so they can understand the pain I go through every time I have to do the same, which is most nights. And then maybe they will understand just how painful those white screens are when your eyes are adjusted to the dark and how once they adjust to the 8 million lumens of light you won't be getting back to sleep any time soon. This really needs to happen. Unsurprisingly, dark screens don't create the same kinds of problems, but do I get any dark screens at 3am? Listen, being oncall and getting paged in the middle of the night is bad enough, so let's not make it 10x worse with your stupid white screens, ok? Is that too much to ask? Apparently it is.

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  23. Re:Material Design Sucks by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 1

    By making it even less intuitive, they're increasing the use of their search engine, which means more advertising revenue for them. Simple.

    Genius!

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  24. White vs black power usage by gx5000 · · Score: 1

    Once you go Black, you ....are happy the text is white and you're saving battery power. DHUH

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  25. Re: Material Design Sucks by Z80a · · Score: 1

    You certainly can, but the text gets quite unreadable.

  26. Whelp... by DarkRookie · · Score: 1

    This is getting worse and worse. I am going to be trying Zoho. Seen that pop up on this site a few times as recommendations.
    I have held off trying to get a different email service just because of ALL the stuff attached to the GMail one.

    My Google account is pretty much going to be for YouTube to unblock videos with bad words and the Play Store.

    Unless there is a good replacement for that y'all can recommend.

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  27. My eyes!!!! by BLToday · · Score: 1

    "The goggles do nothing!"

    Everyone is going dark, even Youtube. I'm glad Google is doing something different but this is really straining my eyes.

  28. Re:It's about money by DarkRookie · · Score: 1

    They already sell junk hardware and claim it faster than the old stuff.

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  29. Re:Overlit workspaces damage your eyes by Joce640k · · Score: 1

    If you work in an illuminated room then you simply adjust the "searchlight" to be the same brightness as your surroundings. It's not difficult.

    Using a black background in even a moderately illuminated room wreaks havoc on your eyes. Try it. Look at your darkened screen for 20 seconds then look at a white wall. Notice anything?

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  30. Re: Material Design Sucks by Z80a · · Score: 1

    I meant in the composite output.

  31. Re:Material Design Sucks by mcswell · · Score: 1

    Somebody over on Ars explained this: it's so you can use your GMail app as a flashlight. After all, it's not like you'll want to write your emails on this.

  32. Re:Material Design Sucks by mcswell · · Score: 1

    Tail fins on cars is a good example of this: http://historygarage.com/futur...

  33. Re: Material Design Sucks by Z80a · · Score: 1

    Quite good i suppose.
    I bet there are some color combinations that are just unreadable, but probably none with an all white background.