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Facebook Forced To Block 20,000 Posts About Snack Food Conspiracy After PepsiCo Sues, Says Report (gizmodo.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Gizmodo: There is a rumor that Kurkure, a corn puff product developed by [Pepsico] in India, is made of plastic. The conspiracy theory naturally thrived online, where people posted mocking videos and posts questioning whether the snack contained plastic. In response, PepsiCo obtained an interim order from the Delhi High Court to block all references to this conspiracy theory online in the country, MediaNama reports. Hundreds of posts claiming that Kurkure contains plastic have already been blocked across Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and YouTube, according to LiveMint, and the court order requires social networks to continue to block such posts. According to MediaNama, PepsiCo petitioned for 3412 Facebook links, 20244 Facebook posts, 242 YouTube videos, six Instagram links, and 562 tweets to be removed, a request the court has granted. PepsiCo's argument is that these rumors are untrue and defame the brand -- though it's evident that a number of the posts are satirical in tone, poking fun at the rumor rather than earnestly trying to spread misinformation.
coke is much better anyway
Ammendment
competition from "Streisand" Cola
Table-ized A.I.
It's not plastic...it's people!!
Momentarily, the need for the construction of new light will no longer exist.
It's been decades since there was a meaningful distinction between cheap junk food and plastic.
It's made of people.
Kurkure is absolutely made from plastic. Its why all of their shit tastes the same.
then why was it banned in California along with straws? Hmm, Pepsico? Got an answer for that?
Court-mandated censorship like this sets a bad & creepy precedent. If the claims are bogus, let them be settled in the traditional manner via libel lawsuits after the fact.
What if the claims are not completely bogus (not speaking to the merits of this specific instance but a hypothetical future instance)? The public should have a right to know without the imprimatur of corporate interests.
This is a potentially bad example, but I think it illustrates my point: what if the Soylent corporation were to squelch the claim that "Solyent Green is people"?
For all its many faults, India at least has great food, much of it vegetarian. Why would you eat processed corn crap when you have so much else available?
What happens when the conspiracy theory is true? There will be no high powered lawyers in court to defend the truth, so corporations can dictate what you're allowed to say? More so than usual, I mean.
So now this page of Slashdot is illegal in India!
Just don't talk shit about Lee-Enfield ammunition.
Have gnu, will travel.
Made from the finest recycled nylon polymers.
this was all preplanned by pepsi and facebook in order to give cover to there anticonservative antirepublican agenda. facebook and pepsi are long time democrat party funders and backers and will stop at nothing to undermine america democracy and colllude with forin powers.
Somewhere between the GIzmodo article, which correctly pointed out that the Delhi court order applied only in India, and Slashdot, which implied that all of FB is blocking all these stories, something got lost.
FIRST, Pepsi Co didn't get sued.
SECOND, Pepsi Co didn't sue anyone.
THIRD,It's an INTERIM court order, like we have here in the United States, called a temporary restraining order (TRO) and will require a hearing and proof and may be extended or completely withdrawn.
FOURTH, It only applies in India, not the rest of the civilized world
You can all relax now and quit bringing the US Constitution into it.
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... the speed of stupid.
When MegaFood lawyers up, it's time to look elsewhere. That routine practice by MegaFood is simply a slap down. Slap back.
We used to not be able to say things against kings and barons. Now we cannot say things against corporations or Jews.
Troll is not a replacement for I disagree.
So I could share this far and wide. Not because I believe it, but the very idea of an American company, (I know, I know, it’s PepsiCo, a worldwide multinational conglomerate that can’t really be called American any more than you could argue that there’s a meaningful difference between the water in the Pacific Ocean and the Atlantic, since they meet and join and flow freely between the two and around the globe, kind of like PepsiCo and their money, I imagine,) but for a company based and started here, (as I think it was and don’t really care if it wasn’t, so I’m not going to even bother to look it up, because it doesn’t matter; it’s not really relevant to the point I’m making here,) to exploit the fact that an Indian Court of Law will grant their request and engage in censorship like this makes me want to exploit the fact that I am outside that court’s jurisdiction to help spread this rumor, even if it’s totally false, so as to help render it pointless for PepsiCo (which I’m now boycotting over this,) to have sought the order in the first place. (TBH though, I was already boycotting their products because most of them suck. Not really a boycott, more of a personal choice.)
THAT SAID, HOWEVER... The truth is that if your product is such a bizarre thing, so far removed from any resemblance to real actual food or food precursor ingredients you claim it’s based on and/or made out of, that people find themselves legitimately wondering if maybe it’s actually made of plastic, (it’s probably not made of plastic, though; it’s probably made of wood pulp, much the way most shelf-stable “Parmesan” (hahaha) “cheese” is,) people probably shouldn’t be eating it, and such so-called “conspiracy theories” are a legitimate part of the discussion. Unless you have someone certified as insane, by some competent authority to do so, any allegation that that person is insane and shouldn’t be listened to, (as the words “conspiracy theory” are shorthand for,) is, from a rhetorical and argumentative standpoint, known as the fallacy of “poisoning the well”. For those of you not familiar, when you resort to poisoning the well, you are effectively admitting defeat and lose the argument. That people regard an argument that includes, “well, my opponent is a well-known crazy person,” as automatically forfeiting is HOW we maintain civil discourse, and have meaningful conversations.
ALLOWING people (or PepsiCo) to get away with poisoning the well in the argument about whether or not their little plastic-like nightmare snack “foods” are or are not made of plastic REWARDS them for their misbehavior, and encourages others to do the same. Here’s another example I know will be popular on slashdot: people claiming “it’s all rigged,” and asserting any reporting that is not favorable, true or not, is “fake news!”
Claims by certain individuals pretending to be elected leaders, are a perfect example of poisoning the well. “Don’t listen to people who tell you I’m a liar, because they’re all liars,” can’t be used in a real, legitimate argument. You have to prove the truth of what you’re saying through independently verifiable evidence, and asserting that you should believe simply because he says, “believe me” just doesn’t cut it.
They really need to emphasize this more in schools... sorry, I digressed. Anyway...
For any government, especially one like India’s, (let’s not forget they style themselves as “the world’s largest democracy,”) to reach its giant, government hand into the conversation and pluck voices out of it and silence them on PepsiCo’s behalf is straight-up bullshit. It’s a steep slope, and to spray a teflon-based or teflon-like lubricant all over it makes for legitimate slippery-slope concerns.
Keep a sharp eye out, people... this is one of the things that happens when you don’t have your freedom to speak and express your beliefs protected in law, or you allow your government to walk all over that freedom.
Our reign has gone on long enough. Indeed. Summon the meteors.
that's not what conspiracy means
Why would anyone name a snack food that rhymes with mercury?
That was the turning point of my life--I went from negative zero to positive zero.
...how much Pepsico spends on advertising on Facebook. Pepsico don't need a court order. Maybe they're doing it to give Facebook an excuse/cover story.
Debate is a form of harassment. Do not question my truth.
Half of the fast food I've enjoyed over the years (like twinkles) I just assumed was part or all plastic. Whatever. I say! It just passes through then, so I can't see why a rumor like that would matter. or have any effect beyond slightly increasing sales (see: Tide Pods).
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Now that it's illegal to complain about the product, it's time to replace some of the more expensive ingredients.
Right... so this time the boot of big money legalism is only stomping on the face of our Indian friends.
This would never happen here in America. Because we have no bad laws, our leaders always put the common good before the interests of the corporate oligarchy, and our courts are not totally corrupt from top to bottom. Riiiiiight....
If you believe that one, I've got a great deal - special for you! - on the Brooklyn Bridge.
Of course we believe actual facts, were not paranoid lying alt right virgins in Moms basement. What sort of dumb fucking cunts believe such utter stupidity.
Mostly Americans of course.
Still sets a precedent that FB can and will block posts, weakening their defence against implementing censorship in other countries.
Did you hear that Kurkure is made of plastic?
The fact that the theories are blocked only draws attention to them and will inevitably recruit more people to believe them...
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FOURTH, It only applies in India, not the rest of the civilized world
India civilized?? you wouldn't know it from reading the news.
Back in 2001 or so I was told Taco Bell's ground beef was not meat, but a paste. I responded with: "Wow that's some good paste then I guess."
Years later I saw the lawsuit claiming their beef was 11% meat and I was surprised it had SO MUCH meat in it.
The olestra of this generation?
... so it's good to panic about unscientific crap when it's about "GMO", but it's bad to panic about unscientific crap when it's something about plastic food in India, and censorship is good if it's about Republicans or Indian plastic food, but bad if it's about anything else ...
How dya all keep up with this ever shifting set of rules?
Kurkure is made of plastic.
Personally, if I were running a social network faced with this kind of crap from an Orwellian corporation with no sense of humor, I'd simply respond to them along these lines: "Alright. You want us to block critical comments about one of your brands? No problem -- but we can't actually afford to manually block every single post that's critical of your products... so this is going to have to be a keyword block. And just so you're aware: because of the way in which a keyword blocking feature operates, that likely means that all posts about your product are potentially subject to being blocked, real or fake."
I would then proceed to simply block the keyword "Kurkure."
And a successful one, at that.
Check your premises.
Must be true if they're trying to hide it...
Really seriously :
Environmentally-conscious European companies are actually replacing plastic packaging material (expanded polystyrene foam peanuts) with biodegradable packaging material such as corn starch packing peanuts - basically unflavored corn puffs.
(Examples of shops: Conrad, Lush, etc.)
So yeah, plastic and corn puffs *ARE* mutually interchangeable indeed :-D
"Sufficiently advanced satire is indistinguishable from reality." - [Tips: 1DrYakQDKCQ6y52z6QbnkxHXAocMZJE61o ]
Somewhere between the GIzmodo article, which correctly pointed out that the Delhi court order applied only in India, and Slashdot, which implied that all of FB is blocking all these stories, something got lost.
about 50+ american IQ points.
All of my favorite foods are vegetarians as well.
...free range Vegetarians, I hope ?
"Sufficiently advanced satire is indistinguishable from reality." - [Tips: 1DrYakQDKCQ6y52z6QbnkxHXAocMZJE61o ]
Sure but Melamine is in no way plastic, and is not inert in the way plastic is (because it's mimicking as something else). Good wholesome plastic is like someone riding by on a bicycle, tipping their hat to you and saying "Good day sir!" as they ride along never to be seen again.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
A precedent that spreading lies is somehow not only allowed but encouraged? Fucking stupid idea
Which false rumor resulted in a Hillary Clinton voter voting for Trump?
I was going to vote for socialism until I took a Russian meme to the feed.
Work Safe Porn
> This is India where completely bogus rumors on social media have resulted in angry hordes of people burning or stoning innocents to death.
WRONG.
Angry hordes of PEOPLE stoned innocents to death.
Read: PEOPLE.
STOP BLAMING TOOLS FOR WHAT PEOPLE DO.
Your new spouted pretext for social control is absolute bullshit.
First China, now India won't take our waste plastic.
So they can't down promote fake news or racist content but they can block big corp gossip, where is the let's everyone expose their points of viene.
In your zeal to hate the US you're missing the point. This article is about India and a temporary restraining order. It's not about the world, or big censorship, and it's not affecting anyone other than Indians for the short time until FB fights it.
Less coffee and more reading will do you well.