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How an Ex-Cop Rigged McDonald's Monopoly Game and Stole Millions (thedailybeast.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report: In August 22, 2001, Jerome Jacobson, director of security for a subcontracting company called Simon Marketing, was arrested along with eight co-conspirators for orchestrating a massive scheme to defraud McDonald's Monopoly promotion out of more than $24 million. Jeff Maysh of The Daily Beast tells the inside story in 8,800 words. Between 1989 and 2001, "Uncle Jerry" used his position as the head of the McDonald's Monopoly account to steal winning "pieces" worth between $10,000 and $1 million. He proceeded to gift the pieces to family members and a growing network of associates -- which included "mobsters, psychics, strip club owners, convicts, drug traffickers, and even a family of Mormons" -- in exchange for a cut of the laundered winnings. A former police officer known for his attention to detail, Jacobson was personally responsible for overseeing the printing of paper game pieces, cutting out the winning tickets, and transporting them to McDonald's packaging factories throughout the country. Read the full story here.

102 comments

  1. Jerome Jacobson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Jerome

    oh.

    1. Re:Jerome Jacobson by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      Jerome Jacobson Jingleheimer Schmidt,
      his name is my name too;
      whenever we go out,
      people always shout
      Jerome Jacobsom Jingleheimer Schmidt

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  2. Shame he got caught. by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 0, Troll

    I'm not going to weep for a company that treats its workers like crap and serves toxic, chemical-laden obesogenic "food". Frankly, I'd rather the mob and crooked cops have the money than Mickey Dee's keep it...

    1. Re:Shame he got caught. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      I don't think you are seeing this clearly. The clown didn't lose a penny, his customers who should have won with the stolen winning pieces did.

    2. Re:Shame he got caught. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny


      serves toxic, chemical-laden

      I too prefer my food to consist solely of photons, electrons, neutrons, neutrinos (when you can catch them!) and dark matter. None of these nasty "chemicals"!

    3. Re:Shame he got caught. by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 0

      I don't think you are seeing this clearly. The only clowns here are the customers.

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    4. Re:Shame he got caught. by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 0

      I've heard McDonald's puts huge amounts of dihydrogen monoxide in their drinks.

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    5. Re:Shame he got caught. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      this shit is always against the law, unless it's done on an island, in the caribbean, so you need to own a bank to do it

    6. Re:Shame he got caught. by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The scheme resulted in there being more winners than usual, because he assembled the winning pieces for them. And it happened without the apparent winners buying the usual amount of product, so the clown was not only robbed coming, but going as well.

      I give a shit, but those are the facts.

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    7. Re:Shame he got caught. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've heard McDonald's puts huge amounts of dihydrogen monoxide in their drinks.

      Dihydrogen monoxide has not been shown to be harmful when consumed in modest amounts or inhaled in only tiny quantities. However, their heavy use of sodium chloride leads to high blood pressure.

    8. Re:Shame he got caught. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The scheme resulted in there being more winners than usual

      Did it though? I mean, yes, I too have a feeling it did, but do you have any proof to back up that assertion?

      because he assembled the winning pieces for them.

      Yes, that is also my reasoning for why I feel like it probably did result in more winners, since it seems likely that the pieces would have otherwise gone to people who weren't bothering to play. But is there any data to support that claim?

      I give a shit, but those are the facts.

      Well, facts and one opinion. You haven't proven the claim that it resulted in more winners than usual.

    9. Re:Shame he got caught. by AvitarX · · Score: 1

      Well, at least one person doesn't bother to save the non instant win pieces (me), and I get an average of .25 pieces a year.

      So using my direct observation we can prove that side streaming winning sets directly to people has a 100% chance of increasing the odds a winning set will be found.

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    10. Re: Shame he got caught. by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      Of course I did. We went to McDonald's every week-end!

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    11. Re:Shame he got caught. by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      heavy use of sodium chloride... in their drinks?

      you're kidding, right?

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    12. Re: Shame he got caught. by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      Well, at least you've still got your Beanie-Babies.

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    13. Re:Shame he got caught. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When potential customers see the game as rigged the contest's perceived value as a marketing campaign is diminished and the brand loses value as well.

    14. Re:Shame he got caught. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I give a shit, but those are the facts.

      Do you mean 'I don't give a shit' ?

  3. That explains it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I always wondered why the best pieces were never found.

  4. Why is a new article about a 2001 arrest news? by MrMagooAZ · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I find myself wondering why this article is considered "news". Is there anything new here? This happened 18 years ago. What am I missing?

    1. Re:Why is a new article about a 2001 arrest news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Call it a retrospective piece.

    2. Re:Why is a new article about a 2001 arrest news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because some site recently wrote an article about it. Not much that wasn't already known, except maybe the mob connections to the guy.

    3. Re:Why is a new article about a 2001 arrest news? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 2

      Oh, I see. Let me start my Nintendo Gamecube to put me in the right context.

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    4. Re:Why is a new article about a 2001 arrest news? by CyberLeader · · Score: 1

      Because those are the articles msmash seems to approve. I have no idea why he thinks this belongs on Slashdot.

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    5. Re:Why is a new article about a 2001 arrest news? by pnutjam · · Score: 1

      The major trial started 9/10/01, so alot of people overlooked it; FTA.

    6. Re:Why is a new article about a 2001 arrest news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    7. Re:Why is a new article about a 2001 arrest news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Things that happened before you were out of diapers are still news.

    8. Re:Why is a new article about a 2001 arrest news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      More like "olds", amirite? o/

    9. Re:Why is a new article about a 2001 arrest news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's a ben affleck/matt damon movie about it coming out.

  5. Re:the best people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Whenever I see such an idiotic post I immediately think 'PopeRatzo'

  6. OK I'm not the only one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    who read it as "and even a family of Morons"

    am I?

    1. Re:OK I'm not the only one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      am I?

      A moron? Probably.

    2. Re:OK I'm not the only one by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      Not me. I read it as "even a family of morans".

      I don't know why.

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  7. Ex-Cop? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What is the relevance of him being an ex-cop? More liberal cop hating?

    1. Re:Ex-Cop? by omnichad · · Score: 1

      They had a position of trust/authority and it possibly was an advantage or source of insider knowledge. Similar to President or ex-sysadmin.

    2. Re:Ex-Cop? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Being an ex-cop lent him an extra veneer of integrity that helped to get him promoted as top security person in charge of the promotion. In this position (as an earlier post notes) he stole the winning tickets and took a cut of the winnings. That he got away with it for so long, that the company wouldn't rotate people in that position as a matter of precaution is kind of interesting.

    3. Re:Ex-Cop? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Being an ex-cop lent him an extra veneer of integrity that helped to get him promoted as top security person in charge of the promotion. In this position (as an earlier post notes) he stole the winning tickets and took a cut of the winnings. That he got away with it for so long, that the company wouldn't rotate people in that position as a matter of precaution is kind of interesting.

      Why the didn't have MULTIPLE people involved in and watching the process of cutting out the winning tickets and distributing them is beyond me. Plus, why they didn't take the time to do some credit checks on all involved is also interesting. Finally, why didn't they have a process where one group does the cutting and packaging of a specific number of rare winning pieces in a secured room and are searched going in and out, and another group that mixes them randomly into a pile of non-rare pieces which are sealed into packets who are also searched going in and out of the secured room and a third group that take the packages of sealed pieces to the various locations where the playing pieces are added to the paper goods and mixes each sealed package into the production lines, again being watched and searched.

  8. He did his job. Corruptly. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WOW.

    Such news for nerds! Man does job like African..

  9. Re: Kill All Pigs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Die piggie cocksucker. Soon.
    Choking on that authoritarian cock BIGLY jammed down your throat. Soon.

  10. Updated Micky D's jingle by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

    He proceeded to gift the pieces to family members and a growing network of associates -- which included "mobsters, ... strip club owners, ..."

    Baa daa bop bah bada bing - they're lovin' it.

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    1. Re:Updated Micky D's jingle by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      If you win a medium to large lottery prize, you can get cash for it, avoid taxes.

      'The mob' needs documented income, they love to buy winning tickets (and pay taxes). But be fucking careful. They'd love that winning ticket for free even more.

      --
      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
  11. Rigged? by nuckfuts · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Saying that he "rigged" the game makes the scheme sound more clever than it was. He simply stole the winning tickets.

    1. Re:Rigged? by evendiagram · · Score: 1
      I was expecting this to be an early example of using stats in fraud detection. Should have called it quits after the line

      The two men behind the camera were not from McDonald’s. They were undercover agents from the FBI. This was a McSting.

    2. Re:Rigged? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because #BernieWouldHaveWon never gets old due to the corrupt Clintons.

  12. Re:the best people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Trolls will be trolls..

  13. Re:the best people by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 4, Funny

    A family of Mormons, not a family of morons.

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  14. 8800 words is about X too many by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 1

    >> Jeff Maysh of The Daily Beast tells the inside story in 8,800 words.

    Um...the summary repeated this 17-year-old news in a lot fewer words than that. In other words, you suck, Jeff Maysh.

    >> In August 22, 2001

    Still, this is Slashdot, so you can't expect fully literate editors.

    1. Re: 8800 words is about X too many by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One could say he neggerigged it hmm?

    2. Re:8800 words is about X too many by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Wikipedia tells the complete story here in 250 words.

  15. Re:the best people by drinkypoo · · Score: 1, Insightful

    "A family of Mormons, not a family of morons."

    It's the angel Moroni, not the angel Mormoni...

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  16. The pychics weren't guility. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They knew who had the winning game pieces.

    I mean, you'd have to be psychic to know that the winning pieces weren't at McDonald's but at an ex-cops house.

  17. I guess we shouldbn't be surprised.... by Type44Q · · Score: 1

    I guess we shouldn't be surprised that this meets Slashdot's definition of news.

    1. Re:I guess we shouldbn't be surprised.... by myth24601 · · Score: 1

      Remember when it was news for nerds and stuff that mattered?

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    2. Re:I guess we shouldbn't be surprised.... by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Don't worry they'll bring it into compliance by posting it again tomorrow or next week.

      Probably both.

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  18. Gifted? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "He proceeded to gift the pieces to family members and a growing network of associates [...] in exchange for a cut of the laundered winnings."

    Exchanging something for money is usually not called gifting but selling. He sold the loot.

  19. Re:the best people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    same difference...

  20. Re:the best people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He's too sleazy for them?

  21. Re:the best people by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 0

    Don't be silly, the mob would never want to be associated with Trump.

    Actually Trump had a lot of ties with the mob in the 60's and 70's.

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    "That's the way to do it" - Punch
  22. Got greedy by Miser · · Score: 1

    Not condoning the behavior, but if he wouldn't have been so greedy, he may not have got caught. That's what usually catches the blatant thieves and launderers - they get greedy.

  23. "even a family of Mormons" by Trax3001BBS · · Score: 1

    Mormons are a despicable people, why is this a surprise.

    1. Re:"even a family of Mormons" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just like the Jews amirite?

      Oh wait, sweeping generalizations about people on the basis of their religious beliefs is what defines a bigot...
      I'm not a fan of Mormonism myself, but like any other group of humans, there are Mormons who are great people and Mormons who are shitty people.

      It's almost as though categorizing people upon any basis other than their individual behavior makes you a shitty person.

    2. Re:"even a family of Mormons" by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      The Mormon mafia is a real thing.

      The Mormon church was founded by a grifting scammer, it has _always_ had a core of criminal scammers at the top.

      --
      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
    3. Re:"even a family of Mormons" by Trax3001BBS · · Score: 1

      Just like the Jews amirite?

      Oh wait, sweeping generalizations about people on the basis of their religious beliefs is what defines a bigot...
      I'm not a fan of Mormonism myself, but like any other group of humans, there are Mormons who are great people and Mormons who are shitty people.

      It's almost as though categorizing people upon any basis other than their individual behavior makes you a shitty person.

      They practice vigilante justice on rumor alone, facts aren't important nor even an attempt made to verify.
      They do this as a whole and can be grouped as one.

    4. Re:"even a family of Mormons" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's almost as though categorizing people upon any basis other than their individual behavior makes you a shitty person.

  24. No picture of Jerome? SHOCK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Criminals without pics or descriptions are invariably non-whites. It's too late, the goyim know.

  25. In other words... by paulpach · · Score: 1

    They have finally unmasked the hamburglar

  26. This is why I never played those games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just assumed they were rigged and it turns out, I was right. Fucking assholes. We really should go back to cutting thieves hands off.

  27. Re:the best people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    same thing. pests.

    super-applicable captcha: "incest"

  28. One thing is always true.. by thexfile · · Score: 1

    Cops made the best criminels.

  29. McDonald's owes us? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since McDonald's lured customers to purchase their products with the promise of prizes, to the extent that the prizes weren't there do they owe the customers?

    1. Re: McDonald's owes us? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes I agree. Class action law suit needed

    2. Re: McDonald's owes us? by Pascoea · · Score: 2

      Why? So every McDonald's patron gets a coupon for a free medium fry, the lawyers get $100M, and McD's raises their prices 5% to compensate? Thanks, I'll pass.

    3. Re: McDonald's owes us? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      lol you actually choose to eat that shit that I wouldn't be so cruel to feed to a mangy beast.

  30. Re:the best people by laie_techie · · Score: 2

    same thing. pests.

    super-applicable captcha: "incest"

    Is it time to invoke No True Scotsman?

    Joseph Smith Jr founded The Church of Christ 6 April 1830; he later renamed it to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. After he was killed his followers broke into splinter groups. The largest group followed Brigham Young to what is now Utah and retained the name The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. There are more than 150 sects which claim Joseph Smith Jr as their founder. The LDS Church wants to distance itself from the splinter groups (which includes polygamous sects), and thus asks the media to use the term "Mormon" when referring to the LDS Church with HQ in SLC, Utah. In 1890 the LDS Church officially declared it would not sanction new polygamous marriages.

    Even when polygamy was practiced, incest was forbidden. In some instances two sisters shared the same husband, but that does not count as incest

  31. Fine with me! by DaMattster · · Score: 1

    When we look at the kinds of crimes that McDonald's perpetrates against like sub-poverty line wages, terrible quality food, and mistreatment of livestock that go into the food process, my hat is off to the ex-cop. Fuck McDonald's! Feel free to label this as troll or flamebait but I am sick of the wealthy and the elite beating people up in the name of crony capitalism. I personally would like to give this ex-cop a high five.

  32. What by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did someone just really rehash a story from nearly 20 years ago.... talk about a slow news day.

  33. Re:the best people by HornWumpus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You gotta give the Mormons credit. Revising their divinely revealed teachings in response to a US federal government threat.

    Most other religions would be afraid their followers would get suspicious.

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    John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
  34. Where Are They Now? by X!0mbarg · · Score: 1

    Inquiring Minds Want To Know!

    Seriously though, does anyone have any more current info on this little scheme? I certainly haven't heard anything about this before, but I'm old, and may not remember this being news at the time.

  35. No "Go directly to jail, do not pass go, do not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    collect $200.

  36. Re: the best people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not exactly. DT tried to cozy up to the mafia but they never wanted anything to do with him. When Trump was trying to build his casinos in Atlantic City he had to get permission from the mob because they controlled the permits. The mob refused to deal with Donald so his dad Fred had to go in and negotiate on his behalf while DT sat waiting in the car.

  37. Re:the best people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    LDS Mormonism begins teaching about the infallibility of its leadership to children as early as age 3. This is why you have entire generations of Mormons who don't dare question what the leadership says or does. They're taught that to question is tantamount to forfeiting their eternal salvation. It's a fundamental cult tactic.

    Any time the church gets enough negative press on an issue it changes its stance. It is first and foremost a for-profit corporation after all. Black people couldn't hold priesthood or attend temple (the pinnacle of LDS worship) before 1978. They changed their divinely inspired stance amidst social pressure. There are allegations that the BYU football program was being negatively affected. It happened before and it will happen again.

    Another issue right now is LDS children being required to answer sexual questions with clergy, alone, behind closed doors. There's a man waging a hunger strike right now to draw attention to the LDS church's harmful shaming and grooming practices. So far the infallible leadership has not deigned to meet with him.

  38. old news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This isn't news.

    Google it, set the date as any period of time which doesn't include this week, and you find articles from YEARS AGO.
    https://www.google.com/search?q=Jerome+Jacobson+monopoly&tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A7%2F29%2F2001%2Ccd_max%3A7%2F1%2F2018

    Why are you posting old stories as if they are "new"s?

  39. Re:the best people by laie_techie · · Score: 1

    You gotta give the Mormons credit. Revising their divinely revealed teachings in response to a US federal government threat.

    Most other religions would be afraid their followers would get suspicious.

    Firstly, the LDS Church did not revise divinely revealed teachings. Why have a living Prophet and open canon if nothing ever changes;) Regardless, the teachings regarding polygamy did not change. Ever since the Book of Mormon was published and the Church formally established (1830) it was taught that polygamy is an abomination unless required by the Lord. Orson Pratt recorded that Joseph Smith started teaching polygamy in 1831, but the time to practice it had not yet come. In 1835, the Church declared "Inasmuch as this Church of Christ has been reproached with the crime of fornication and polygamy, we declare that we believe that one man should have one wife, and one woman but one husband, except in the case of death, when either is at liberty to marry again. (1835 Edition of D&C 101:4). It was not until 1843 when Joseph Smith Jr received a revelation indicating he should practice polygamy.

    Responding to a US federal government threat would have meant stopping polygamy a lot earlier than 1890. The Morrill Anti-Bigamy Act of 1862 made polygamy illegal. Other acts ( Poland Act of 1874, Edmunds Act of 1882, Endmunds-Tucker Act of 1887) didn't cause the Church to stop practicing polygamy. Even after the Manifesto of 1890 (Official Declaration 1 in the Pearl of Great Price) men continued to cohabit with existing wives. The Second Manifesto (1905) clarified that anyone entering into a new polygamous relationship or even performing such a marriage would be excommunicated.

  40. This is the next Breaking Bad! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Has anybody notified Vince Gilligan about this?

  41. Fuck that guy by MonteCarloMethod · · Score: 1

    I was a kid during this racket, a kid who loved the time of year when monopoly came around. I've never been much for McD's food, but I got a huge kick out of peeling the stickers off of cups and fries and whatnot. Of course I never won anything more than a free medium fry, but it makes me sad to think that someone was running this scheme during the years that my adolescent self loved the promotion.

  42. Re:the best people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You sure are hateful pope. Have an extra downboats on me, traitor.

  43. Re:the best people by laie_techie · · Score: 0

    LDS Mormonism begins teaching about the infallibility of its leadership to children as early as age 3. This is why you have entire generations of Mormons who don't dare question what the leadership says or does. They're taught that to question is tantamount to forfeiting their eternal salvation. It's a fundamental cult tactic.

    That is categorically false. Catholicism teaches that the Pope is infallible, but Mormonism teaches that Jesus was the only perfect individual to live on the earth. Joseph Smith History (canonized and part of the Pearl of Great Price) was written by Joseph Smith Jr and clearly states that "I frequently fell into many foolish errors, and displayed the weakness of youth, and the foibles of human nature; which, I am sorry to say, led me into divers temptations, offensive in the sight of God. In making this confession, no one need suppose me guilty of any great or malignant sins. A disposition to commit such was never in my nature." (JSH 1:28). LDS scripture says that when leaders speak "when moved by the Holy Ghost" it shall be scripture (D&C 68). In the April 1996 General Conference Elder Dallin H Oaks (of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles) wrote that Joseph Smith Jr "was mortal and therefore subject to sin and error, pain and affliction" source

    Any time the church gets enough negative press on an issue it changes its stance. It is first and foremost a for-profit corporation after all.

    Categorically false. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is a non-profit organization as per US tax law. Please provide evidence to support your claim the Church is a for-profit organization. The Church's commercial endeavors are properly taxed and are not funded by tithing.

    Black people couldn't hold priesthood or attend temple (the pinnacle of LDS worship) before 1978. They changed their divinely inspired stance amidst social pressure. There are allegations that the BYU football program was being negatively affected. It happened before and it will happen again.

    This question is more nuanced than you realized. Let me quote from the Church's page on race and the priesthood

    In 1850, the U.S. Congress created Utah Territory, and the U.S. president appointed Brigham Young to the position of territorial governor. Southerners who had converted to the Church and migrated to Utah with their slaves raised the question of slavery’s legal status in the territory. In two speeches delivered before the Utah territorial legislature in January and February 1852, Brigham Young announced a policy restricting men of black African descent from priesthood ordination. At the same time, President Young said that at some future day, black Church members would “have [all] the privilege and more” enjoyed by other members.

    There is no official reason provided as to why Blacks were denied the Priesthood beginning in 1852 - just lots of speculation. In 1857 the US Supreme Court declared that blacks possessed "no rights which the white man was bound to respect."

  44. Re:the best people by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

    Sure they did. Just because they're new profit (not a spelling mistake) is authorized by their rules to change things doesn't mean he's not changing previously 'revealed truth'.

    Right on schedule, their profit gets a new revelation.

    Dumb dumb dumb dumb...

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    John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
  45. Re:the best people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    they're new profit (not a spelling mistake) is authorized

    Correct, it's a grammar mistake.

    Dumb dumb dumb dumb...

    Indeed.

  46. Re:the best people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Another issue right now is LDS children being required to answer sexual questions

    Nope. The guidlines are here. See number 5 in the interview questions.

    with clergy, alone, behind closed doors

    Wrong again. "If a youth desires, he or she may invite a parent or another adult to be present when meeting with the bishop or one of his counselors."

    There's a man waging a hunger strike right now to draw attention to the LDS church's harmful shaming and grooming practices. So far the infallible leadership has not deigned to meet with him.

    Strike three! "Church leaders at every level—from Sam’s local bishop and stake president to a recent conversation with a general authority—have met with him to express love, to listen and to counsel with him."

  47. Re:the best people by laie_techie · · Score: 1

    Dumb dumb dumb dumb...

    Do you really get your information about Mormonism from South Park???

  48. Re:the best people by laie_techie · · Score: 1

    Sorry, but I fail to see how my post qualifies as "troll". Couldn't you find the "-1 I don't agree but can't intelligently debate" moderation?