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High Speed Internet Is Causing Widespread Sleep Deprivation, Study Finds (vice.com)

A study, published Friday in the Journal of Economic Behavior and Organization and funded by the European Research Council, suggests that high speed internet access is causing people to lose up to 25 minutes of sleep per night compared to those without high speed internet. From a report: It's the first study to causally link broadband access to sleep deprivation. The so-called "digitalization of the bedroom," defined by our inability to part with our phones/laptops/televisions before bed, has already been linked to various sleep disorders. [...] As the researchers found, high speed internet access "promotes excessive electronic media use," which has already been shown to have detrimental effects on sleep duration and quality. The effects of high speed internet access were particularly noticeable in younger age demographics.

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  1. Wouldn't surprise me by Yhcrana · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I have had high speed internet since almost 1999 and I can personally say that every place that I have it and have my computer or hand held device attached to it I will not go to bed before 2 AM. But when I don't have access to that and have to read a book, or actually do chores I find myself getting ready for bed by 11 or so.

    Also there is of course the simple fact that we almost always wake up and reach for the phone or computer before we even go for the coffee anymore. Kinda sad.

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    1. Re:Wouldn't surprise me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also there is of course the simple fact that we almost always wake up and reach for the phone or computer before we even go for the coffee anymore. Kinda sad.

      Why? Neither of these things is remotely as wonderful as coffee. Or even breakfast.

    2. Re:Wouldn't surprise me by Known+Nutter · · Score: 1

      Also there is of course the simple fact that we almost always wake up and reach for the phone or computer before we even go for the coffee anymore. Kinda sad.

      Ah, the Royal We.

      Speak for yourself, champ. Coffee before anything.

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    3. Re:Wouldn't surprise me by whoever57 · · Score: 1

      Buy yourself some blue light blocking glasses.

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  2. Been known for 20yrs or more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe not high speed in today's terms, but the internet time warp isnt new and many people have had measured losses in sleep simply being online all night.

  3. Television by Dan+East · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This still must pale in comparison to the loss of sleep due to the advent of television.

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    1. Re:Television by BrianMarshall · · Score: 1

      and sex.

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    2. Re:Television by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This still must pale in comparison to the loss of sleep due to the advent of television.

      Not really. Even once television was widely available, they didn't broadcast into the wee hours, let alone all night. And there were no recording devices.

    3. Re:Television by war4peace · · Score: 2

      Please look up when TV programme ended before the digital era.

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    4. Re:Television by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      Most people aren't affected by a 2 minute shift in sleepy-time...

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    5. Re:Television by thePsychologist · · Score: 1

      I disagree. With TV, you just watched the shows you liked that came on at regular, specific times. You could only watch so many episodes at once.

      With broadband internet, you can watch as many episodes of whatever is out there at any time you want. You can check hundreds of websites and social media accounts endlessly. Seems like the internet is much worse than TV, and the difference is much greater than TV compared to radio/books

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    6. Re:Television by mentil · · Score: 1

      My (analog) cable TV channels were 24-hour in the mid-90s. Sure it might be infomercials or reruns of 'I Love Lucy' but they didn't sign off with an Indian head.

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    7. Re:Television by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      2minutes? Skip the foreplay and you're done in half the time.

    8. Re:Television by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      You guys are really slow!

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    9. Re:Television by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Loss of sleep began with electrification.

    10. Re:Television by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      mid 90s wasn't "the advent of television", and well into the digital era.

  4. Other data by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The effects of high speed internet access were particularly noticeable in younger age demographics.

    Interestingly, researchers noticed practically no impact on sleep at all for the 125-150 year age demographic.

  5. FB by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

    I just thought of something as I read this headline. Facebook's color is blue, and blue light keeps you awake. Coincidence?

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  6. First World Problem by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 0

    Somehow, I cannot get excited or upset that people with high-speed internet are losing sleep as a result....

    Any more than it bothers me that many people in the USA have to make up their minds which car to use on any given day....

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    1. Re:First World Problem by Gojira+Shipi-Taro · · Score: 1

      Super cool. You don't care about the story but you care enough to tell us that you don't care.

      Wow.

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    2. Re: First World Problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't care enough to tell you whether I do or don't care.

    3. Re:First World Problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow.

      Such amaze. So hypocrisy.

  7. So did IRC, Wbs Chat, ICQ etc by future+assassin · · Score: 1

    and this was in dial up days.

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    1. Re:So did IRC, Wbs Chat, ICQ etc by scottrocket · · Score: 1

      Yeah, it was my experience that low-speed internet caused sleep deprivation.

    2. Re:So did IRC, Wbs Chat, ICQ etc by mentil · · Score: 1

      Have to stay awake until the download finishes so you can disconnect right away. Back before download managers could do that for you.
      I was more sleep-deprived in the dialup days than I was when I got broadband.

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  8. I'd comment on this... by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 2

    ...but I need to get in one more game of Overwatch before I go to bed.

    1. Re:I'd comment on this... by war4peace · · Score: 1

      I just exited No Man's Sky Edge, it's 03:09 local time. No, I didn't mean "PM".

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  9. Nah Nah Nah It's by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The UDH pr0n

    Gigidi

  10. 60 years by Geekbot · · Score: 2

    In 60 years we have pretty much destroyed our natural sleep habits. Kevin Rose had a really good podcast with Kevin Walker about sleep and the dangers of losing it.

    1. Re:60 years by brewthatistrue · · Score: 2

      https://www.kevinrose.com/sing...
      https://player.fm/series/the-k...

      #23 - Matthew Walker Ph.D - Author of "Why We Sleep: Unlocking the Power of Sleep and Dreams

      A lack of sleep is associated with all types of diseases, including Alzheimer's and cancer. Professor Matthew Walker, Director of UC Berkeley’s Sleep and Neuroimaging Lab—reveals his groundbreaking exploration of sleep, explaining how we can harness its transformative power to fight disease and change our lives for the better.

      mp3

    2. Re:60 years by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      In 60 years we have pretty much destroyed our natural sleep habits.

      That is a load of crap. If anything history has shown that humans didn't have natural sleeping habits, at least not since the invention of fire to keep light on after sunset. We have plenty of documentation from figures of the past that some many of them had wildy strange sleeping habits. If anything we can conclude only that what may be "natural" for you is not "natural" for me.

  11. Stop! by quonset · · Score: 1

    Don't give Ajit Pai any more ideas. He'll use this study as an excuse to set the broadband speed in the U.S. back to DSL levels.

    By forcing slower speeds on people, they'll be less willing to stay up because of the frustration of waiting for pages to download.

  12. Sounds legit by bobstreo · · Score: 1

    I remember starting downloads and going to sleep because it would take hours before a couple hundred MB file would finish.

    1. Re:Sounds legit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      And then you wake up, bright eyed and bushy tailed with excitement only to discover that the download was interrupted at about 2 hours in...

    2. Re:Sounds legit by LinuxIsGarbage · · Score: 1

      And then you wake up, bright eyed and bushy tailed with excitement only to discover that the download was interrupted at about 2 hours in...

      Naaah. Usually it failed at 99.9% with no capability to resume, and the format of the file required the last few clusters in order to be usable.

  13. not causation by ooloorie · · Score: 1

    High speed internet isn't "causing sleep deprivation". High speed internet doesn't force people to stay away or pour cold water on them in the middle of the night.

    It is the choice of people to use high speed internet late at night is that causes sleep deprivation.

    1. Re: not causation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't worry you can still blame your asinine stupidity on the Internet.

  14. Nah by rossdee · · Score: 1

    I am sure the biggest cause of sleep deorpvation is work

  15. Bullshit by rsilvergun · · Score: 5, Insightful

    longer work hours due to a tight labor market is what's killing sleep. Folks need time for their brains to spin down and the internet does that as well as anything else. Put a tablet in blue light mode and you don't even have eye problems. The trouble is we're putting in 10+ hour days with 1 hour commutes and then spending 4 hours helping our kids with the piles of homework they get and maybe have 1 or 2 hours to ourselves if we're lucky. That's not enough time to spin down.

    People are about twice as productive as they were 60 years ago. That's not all chalked up to machines & computers. A lot of that is just plain less downtime all around. Hell, computers make it possible to track and eliminate your downtime. Look at Amazon. They have pedometers on their employees. I knew a buddy of mine that got a cushy job going around satellite TV users homes to check if they were pirating the signal (lots were and didn't know it because some random guy from the "cable company" would sell them a card). His job was to make them go legit and maybe show them how to order pay-per-view. Computers showed the company how much revenue the company made off the scheme and it was less than the employees cost. He was fired soon after. Or take Sega of America. They stopped advertising in print magazines years ago because data analytics showed it wasn't worth it. Good for Sega but not for all the video game mags that closed shop.

    We're all working way, way too hard. That's what's costing us sleep. Not the crap we do at night to try and settle down enough to sleep.

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    1. Re:Bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "People are about twice as productive as they were 60 years ago. That's not all chalked up to machines & computers. A lot of that is just plain less downtime all around."

      Working longer doesn't tend to increase productivity. As people work more hours their productivity rate decreases such that they get about the same amount of productive work completed, and sometimes even less.

      A sample of sources:
      source 1
      source 2
      source 3

  16. High speed internet = DSL by GuB-42 · · Score: 1

    By TFA standards, DSL is high speed internet. It is not about fiber or anything like that. (I didn't read the full paper though, I didn't bother getting through the paywall)

    Basically, with very few exceptions, if you have internet at home, it is high speed internet.

    1. Re:High speed internet = DSL by arbiter1 · · Score: 1

      um high speed internet is classified at like min of 25mbit. Most DSL doesn't even hit that speed. Where i live max claimed is 24mbit.

    2. Re:High speed internet = DSL by GuB-42 · · Score: 1

      That's what I has in mind too and that's why I thought the article made no sense. My parents' place have 8Mbps internet and it is more than enough to stay up late.

      But if we define any thing more than dial-up as "high speed" it suddenly makes a lot more sense. With dial-up, there is no streaming, no real-time gaming, and a page can take several minutes to load so no infinite scrolling facebook feeds.

      This is a study about sleep deprivation, not about telecommunications. So it is not surprising that their standards are different.

  17. I am not so addicted I guess by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't have any tech devices in my bedroom active when I go to bed. No TV in the room, devices on do not disturb and I sleep perfectly fine. I do think many people become addicted to their technology and this can be unhealthy I suppose. Its probably more the devices then high speed internet that is to blame. I do know people who say they wake up several times a night to check for messages. probably from someone else who doesn't sleep either.

  18. It's the mostly white/blue screens! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I have my own redshift-like script, that fades both my room's lights and all my screen lights and colors like the sunset and then like a bonfire, until all that is left is glowing coal.

    I *automatically* get tired. No need to do anything special.

    OK, maybe one thing: ALL forms of communication are faded down too. First, news and "social" media sites. Then instant messengers, and finally, my phone goes to mute, my PC shuts down (although I currently have disabed that), and all lights are off.

    The only situation where I can't get sleepy with this, is when I had too much caffeine. (That includes chocolate too!!)

    The only caveat is, that if your addiction to that shit is stronger than your protection from turning a light on anyway, you will of course fail.

    1. Re: It's the mostly white/blue screens! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I had high speed Internet I wouldnâ(TM)t have to stay up all night surfing the web!

  19. And fast food makes you fat, we get it. by brainchill · · Score: 2

    When, are we going to lean toward the idea that we are responsible for ourselves rather than trying to blame something, someone, etc for everything that we do or every problem that we encounter? At some point we have to show personal responsibility and say maybe it isn't this thing that causes the problem, maybe it's what I choose to do with it or how I choose to use it. Sure, if you eat 10 cheeseburgers you get fat, but if you eat one or two, no so much .... and just like that, you have the capacity to turn off your internet connected devices.

    1. Re:And fast food makes you fat, we get it. by lucasnate1 · · Score: 1, Insightful

      When, are we going to lean toward the idea that we are responsible for ourselves

      When are you going to realize that this never happened and never will? Most people have mental weaknesses, dependcies, issues. A man is not an island, and this includes me and likely you as well.

  20. Worse offender by manu0601 · · Score: 2

    I have a great news: electricity caused more sleep deprivation than broadband does. And mastering fire had a huge impact, too.

  21. In Related News by retroworks · · Score: 1

    Quality of comments on Slashdot shows either sleep deprivation - or drinking-while-trolling?

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  22. Too fast, eh? by Tablizer · · Score: 3, Funny

    high speed internet access "promotes excessive electronic media use," which has already been shown to have detrimental effects on sleep

    Doctor: "Bob, you are not getting enough sleep. I'm giving you a prescription for Comcast."

  23. Hmmm by Archfeld · · Score: 1

    I think it might be the opposite. People who have internet access, but not 'highspeed' access spend more time doing the same tasks. I find that the more reading material, be it kindle based or analog paper based, I have contributes to less sleep than anything else. Just one more chapter...I find also working for an east coast based company, their idiotic insistence at an 08:00 start time, when the user base I support are all 3 hour offset costs me a buttload of time as well.

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  24. Internet causes sleep deprivation? by no-body · · Score: 1

    It's my regular job and the hours I am putting in - no time for anything else that is.....

  25. To be loved... by hackwrench · · Score: 1

    I've got one confession
    I love deprivation
    Clearly this is what the song is about.

  26. Blue is "calming and safe". by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That is why banks love it.

    Unless they want to be "exciting" banks for gamblers. Then the color is yellow.

  27. I understand now by scdeimos · · Score: 1

    AT&T and Verizon are attempting to save you all from sleep deprivation by selling slow speed ADSL plans for the same price as fibre!

  28. Meh... by Misagon · · Score: 1

    I pulled quite a few all-nighters with my computer when I was a teenager, before I even had dial-up Internet.

    Of course a lot of time was spent on dial-up BBS:es, not to mention the telephone bills ...

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  29. Long ago I used to wake with a book hangover by TigerPlish · · Score: 1

    ...as in.. I'd turn the last page in the book after being up all night reading it, seeing the first rays of light from the sun, and going "...oh...shit... did it again."

    Christine. Firestarter. How Much For Just The Planet. The Final Nexus. Rage. Roadwork. Just a small list of books that did this to me. And these were on paper, not some as-of-then-not-yet-invented mobile device.

    If it wasn't a book hangover, then it was a video hangover. TAPS playing HBO at 2:30? Yea, i'd be watching it, with school next day.. drag my ass into the classroom looking like x.x or @.@ or -.-

    It has nothing to do with the 'net. It has to do with not having the discipline to PUT IT DOWN.

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  30. ZZZZZZ by thegreatbob · · Score: 1

    I find I lose sleep more from slower/erratic/exorbitantly expensive internet connections than any other quality thereof.

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  31. You do it to yourself by tsa · · Score: 1

    People with sleep deprivation because of the digitization of the bedroom have only themselves to blame. You can choose not to use your tablet or phone just before you go to sleep.

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  32. True words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This high speed internet is keeping me awake a lot of nights. And if the âinternet â is not working I have even more work...
    Off to work now as my Saturday night shift starts (do not ask where).

  33. I went through this years ago by Revek · · Score: 1

    I go to bed and leave the net behind. I run a third party router OS My son also goes to bed at a reasonable time due to the scheduling on all of his devices. Now I only get sleep depravation when there is an outage which I'm happy to say are fewer than ever thanks to multiple routes and better load balancing.

  34. Other Data by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

    The android on Star Trek: The Next Generation.

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