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Chemists Discover How Blue Light Speeds Blindness

Isao writes: It (apparently) has been known that blue light damages eyes and accelerates macular degeneration. A new article on Phys.org may have identified how this happens. It seems that unlike other light colors, blue causes a necessary molecule (retinal) to permanently kill photoreceptor cells. "The researcher found that a molecule called alpha Tocopherol, a Vitamin E derivative and a natural antioxidant in the eye and body, stops the cells from dying," reports Phys.org. "However, as a person ages or the immune system is suppressed, people lose the ability to fight against the attack by retinal and blue light." The authors will continue their research and recommend filtering and blue-light reduction in the meantime. The study has been published in the journal Scientific Reports.

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  1. Rose colored glasses by jfdavis668 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ok, from now on I'm looking at the world through rose colored glasses. That should stop all that blue light business.

  2. Well, that's all of us done for by BoogieChile · · Score: 5, Funny

    Back to the old amber CRT, then

  3. Gonna really suck for saltwater tanks/ grow lights by Khyber · · Score: 4, Informative

    Topic says it all. LED ones are especially blue-heavy (up to 80% of the overall output in saltwater reef tanks) and that's gotta cause some issues.

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  4. Re:Excellent by rmdingler · · Score: 2

    Hell, I didn't know the word Khyber before Slashdot.

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  5. Blue light isn't the issue, getting old is... by cyn1c77 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The blurb (and even the article) is jaded and implies that blue light causes blindness to ride the anti-screen wave.

    If you read it, you find that the issue is actually that the body makes alpha Tocopherol, a Vitamin E derivative, which keeps the photoreceptor cells from dying. Some people lose the ability to make that alpha Tocopherol as they age, leading to blindness.

    So the issue isn't to avoid blue light and buy crazy glasses... (how are you really going to avoid blue light if you ever want to see white again anyway? Are you going to stop looking at white paper?) Rather it's to find a way to keep supplying alpha Tocopherol to the eye as people age.

    1. Re:Blue light isn't the issue, getting old is... by Alsn · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's true. However it could also mean that in the meantime the people who suffer from the deficiency could use filter glasses to keep their sight until a permanent treatment is discovered. Assuming that their findings are correct and that blue light is the only culprit.

    2. Re:Blue light isn't the issue, getting old is... by Khyber · · Score: 3, Interesting

      "Some people lose the ability to make that alpha Tocopherol as they age, leading to blindness."

      Did you just quit reading AND thinking there? Next bit clearly states that people with compromised immune systems or weakened ones from disease are also susceptible. Guess what a hospital is loaded with? Hint: Look all around one, and then look up.

      We also know (I've been fucking saying this for almost a decade, now, when I was doing global horticultural lighting design) that grow lighting is triggering macular degeneration in younger healthier population. This doesn't mean your mom and pop in their 50s+, this is happening as early as a persons 20s.

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    3. Re:Blue light isn't the issue, getting old is... by Greyfox · · Score: 3, Interesting

      DMSO Tocopherol eyedrops a couple times a week? I suppose someone'll have to do a study on exactly how safe DMSO would be for eyeballs over long periods of time.

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    4. Re:Blue light isn't the issue, getting old is... by mentil · · Score: 4, Funny

      No, no, you have to inject it directly into the eye twice daily. Good thing, I'm terrible at using eyedrops without blinking.

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    5. Re:Blue light isn't the issue, getting old is... by iTrawl · · Score: 2

      I've been fucking saying this for almost a decade, now

      Citation needed? Preferably in a scientific journal.

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    6. Re:Blue light isn't the issue, getting old is... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      Also, blue light is linked to disruption of sleep.

      I wish Slashdot had a dark theme.

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    7. Re:Blue light isn't the issue, getting old is... by PPH · · Score: 2

      Are you going to stop looking at white paper?

      To an extent, your brain compensates for variations in ambient lighting. With reduced blue wavelengths, you will still perceive white paper as white. And reading is more dependent on contrast anyway. White paper vs black ink (or blue ink, which will look black) under red night vision lighting is still readable.

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    8. Re:Blue light isn't the issue, getting old is... by DamnOregonian · · Score: 2

      The blurb (and even the article) is jaded and implies that blue light causes blindness to ride the anti-screen wave.

      Objection: Speculation

      If you read it, you find that the issue is actually that the body makes alpha Tocopherol, a Vitamin E derivative, which keeps the photoreceptor cells from dying. Some people lose the ability to make that alpha Tocopherol as they age, leading to blindness.

      That's certainly part of the article.

      That wasn't even the notable part- the notable part was that blue-light activated retinol is shown to by highly cytotoxic, and that there is a known statistical trend between age and your ability to get Tocopherol to the places it needs to be, which strongly correlates with the kinds of macular degeneration that are also highly age-correlated.

      So the issue isn't to avoid blue light and buy crazy glasses... (how are you really going to avoid blue light if you ever want to see white again anyway? Are you going to stop looking at white paper?) Rather it's to find a way to keep supplying alpha Tocopherol to the eye as people age.

      You're actually inserting your own bias into the paper, and you're too stupid to see it.
      They make it quite clear that you can't avoid blue light, and it would be even more ridiculous to think that finding a solution to age-related Tocopherol transport issues would be within the scope of that paper.

      In short, they're not riding the anti-screen wave, you're just virulently opposed to it, and are viewing everything you read with... blue colored glasses?

    9. Re:Blue light isn't the issue, getting old is... by Khyber · · Score: 5, Informative

      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/p...

      That's from 2006, before I started designing and selling horticultural LED lighting, from the British Journal of Ophthalmology.

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  6. We're in an old villa and use "Warm white" bulbs.. by ClarkMills · · Score: 2

    We're in an old villa and use "Warm white" bulbs as it looks odd not to architecturally. They are on the redder (actually cooler 3000K) end of the spectrum to emulate your classic tungsten filament lighting. Not the best for reading resistor bands but at least I'll have my eyesight a bit longer... And hey, maybe my wake/sleep cycles will be better than the "Daylight" (6500K, bluer) colour balanced bulbs that everyone is using now.

  7. Re:It's harmful only if you already have a problem by magarity · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So as soon as I figure out how to stop aging I won't have this issue?

  8. Re:Excellent by mikael · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Blue light in this context is just that - regular blue pixels on a computer screen. There are night-safe modes which tone down these pixels.

    Your retinas has around seven layers of rods, cones and processing neurons. Light is refracted through the lens so that infra-red light hits blood vessels, red light which has a longer wavelength and travels less deeper into the retina hits the upper layers. Blue light in this context is goes into the deepest layer of the retina because the wavelength is shorter and has more energy. UV light gets filtered out by the lens (but causes cataracts in the long term).

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  9. Re:Correlation by Khyber · · Score: 3, Interesting

    No, as at the time of the introduction of the blue LED, efficiency and output was horrible, and even an incandescent light of equal power consumption output more light below the 470nm range than the LED did.

    Around the early 2000s is when blue LEDs began to gain in efficiency to the point where they were commercially viable for use in just about any consumer product.

    I'd suggest starting to look around 1997-2004 for the beginning of an increasing trend.

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  10. Time to switch to green CRTs by OrangeTide · · Score: 4, Funny

    Time to throw away all this 4K HDR LCD garbage and go back to good old monochrome.

    P.S. - Does anyone know how I can hook up a Hercules ISA card to PCIe?

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    1. Re:Time to switch to green CRTs by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      P.S. - Does anyone know how I can hook up a Hercules ISA card to PCIe?

      No need, you can hook it up to USB. It would be easier, though, to get a display card with a VGA output and fix the cable to omit the blue line. You'd still get colors, just not as many, and none of them would be at all blue.

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    2. Re:Time to switch to green CRTs by OrangeTide · · Score: 2

      That USB adapter hack is pretty crazy. The way backlights work some amount of blue light makes it through, but maybe it isn't enough to matter.

      There are screen filters in common use that block blue light, as people have considered it to contribute to eye strain and fatigue for many years. It doesn't totally filter blue light, but it attenuates it significantly.

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  11. Re:We're in an old villa and use "Warm white" bulb by Nethead · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Nice to see that someone is still messing with resistors that have bands. You must like the old cruft like I do. My issue is the focus now. Many many years ago I was able to solder a 40 pin flat pack without glasses. Now I'm lucky to find the damn iron without technological assistance.

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  12. Amber colored glasses by Solandri · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The amber glasses used by shooters work by blocking blue light. The lens in your eye is a simple lens, so suffers from chromatic aberration. It does not focus the different colors of light onto the exact same spot. So what you see can be sharpened by blocking one end of the visible spectrum - red or blue. Your eyes are most sensitive to detail in green, less so in red, and suck at resolving blue. So blue light can be filtered out with very little effect on visual acuity (other than color accuracy). With less chromatic aberration, what you see appears slightly sharper.

  13. Re:We're in an old villa and use "Warm white" bulb by Miamicanes · · Score: 2

    Be glad you don't have astigmatism, or you'd find yourself in the position of being unable to see clearly without glasses (or eventually, without multifocal lenses) at ANY distance, near OR far.

    Ever since roughly age 40, I've felt like I need a binocular microscope to solder anything smaller than 100-mil pitch... and depending on the part & lighting, even 100-mil has left me feeling like I'm "soldering blind" half the time. I've gotten to where I need a magnifying glass just to tell the difference between red and orange bands on a resistor, even WITH bright high-CRI lighting.

  14. time to sue kmart by visionlink · · Score: 2

    for all those bluelight specials...

  15. I doubt it. by Viol8 · · Score: 2

    If blue light was really as bad as they make out then we'd all go blind from looking at a blue sky.

    Interestingly however, the human retina can see UV light but it's blocked by the lens. However when people had replcement lenses put due to cataracts they could now see this UV (as the artificial lens didn't block it) and THIS caused some serious problems.

  16. Re:I have tritanopia by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 2

    , which is a form of color blindness, and cannot see blue, and cannot be affected by that. Take that, normies :)

    Actually, the blue light is still going to damage your eyes- you just don't see the danger.

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  17. Re:Correlation by Khyber · · Score: 2

    No, it was about light output, as anything that could put out decent blue light even for indicators at the time just simply didn't exist until the almost mid-90s. Read about Shuji Nakamura, Nichia, and the creation of the gallium-arsenide blue LED which drove the LED industry into its heights that it is seeing today.

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