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Motorola Receives Backlash For Revealing a 'Shameless' Copy of the iPhone X as Its New Model (bbc.co.uk)

Smartphone brand Motorola has been criticised for revealing a "shameless" copy of the iPhone X as its new model. BBC: Many phone-makers have copied the look of the iPhone X, which has a smaller bezel around the screen and a "notch" at the top that houses a camera. However, reviewers said the new Motorola P30 was a "brazen" and "egregious" rip-off of Apple's flagship device. Lenovo, which owns the Motorola brand, has not yet responded to the criticism.

[...] Commenting on the similarity between the Motorola P30 and the iPhone X, technology blogger Marques Brownlee called it the "most shameless rip yet." News site Mashable said Motorola "even went so far as to adorn the screen with a wallpaper that's a dead ringer for Apple's default wallpaper." News and reviews site Technobuffalo said the design was an "egregious clone" that was "nearly impossible to distinguish" from the iPhone X. Tech news site The Verge pointed out that Google's image recognition algorithms described photos of the P30 as "iPhone."

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  1. Finally! by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 5, Funny

    An iPhone for those who want a real OS!

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    1. Re:Finally! by jellomizer · · Score: 5, Funny

      Do you have any idea how bloated that Facebook App is?

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    2. Re:Finally! by houstonbofh · · Score: 2

      Did you know you can use FaceBook without the app?

    3. Re:Finally! by aardvarkjoe · · Score: 5, Funny

      The article said it will cost $350.

      Then how can it be a shameless copy? They missed the iPhone's primary feature.

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    4. Re:Finally! by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yes, of course! Using their bloated website!

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    5. Re:Finally! by LordKronos · · Score: 3, Insightful

      An iPhone for those who want a real OS!

      ...and a headphone jack

    6. Re:Finally! by MachineShedFred · · Score: 4, Insightful

      How about we just buy a phone that we don't have to go through all that bullshit on straight out of the box? Why is that a hard ask?

      If the first thing you have to do to a brand new device in order to make it work properly is completely wipe it and install some third party software image, then it's broken from the factory, and a defective design.

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    7. Re:Finally! by TheRealQuestor · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Last I checked, Motorola wasn't selling Windows Phones.

      I really like my 30 dollar Windows Phone [lumia 640 LTE]. Still going strong and I may be a minority but I prefer Windows Phone over android or ios. the app gap was/is not an issue for me because I use my phone mainly as a phone which also has a good camera AND enough apps that cover my usage needs. I'll miss it when it does eventually die. Oh I'm sure I'll be modded down in 30 seconds flat, but it's a great phone running a good os and that is good enough for me.

    8. Re:Finally! by Jerry · · Score: 2

      No. I canceled my FB account five years ago and I prevent them from tracking me using my hosts file: ::1 www.facebook.com
      127.0.0.1 www.facebook.com
      127.0.0.1 www.basic.facebook.com
      127.0.0.1 www.mtouch.facebook.com ::1 www.v6.facebook.com
      127.0.0.1 www.newsroom.fb.com
      127.0.0.1 vip-lb.wordpress.com
      127.0.0.1 www.en-gb.facebook.com ::1 www.en-gb.facebook.com
      127.0.0.1 .265.com

      Those lines actually make my web browsing much faster because FB isn't loading its spyware and ads. (Yes, I know, there are about 1,400 FB domain names, but those other ad sites aren't loaded if FB can't load them. I do the same thing for Yahoo, Twitter and Google.

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    9. Re:Finally! by lgw · · Score: 2

      The UI and hardware quality (at the price) of Windows Phone was far above its competitors. None of that matters without apps (including, critically, apps to replace the keyboard).

      Has MS made an android phone with the same hardware and UI, it would have been a contender. Sadly, easy C# on Android didn't occur to them until far too late.

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  2. Re:Samsung all over again by Calydor · · Score: 4, Funny

    Maybe SCO will sue them both.

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  3. Re:If Motorola can do it well by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 4, Funny

    The P30 is actually much more advanced and was a much bigger challenge than the iPhone X - because it actually included the technological innovation called a 3.5mm TRRS jack for your wired headphones!

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  4. Re:If Motorola can do it well by jellomizer · · Score: 3, Funny

    Did you finally stop complaining about how the iMac didn't have a floppy disk?

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  5. Re:If Motorola can do it well by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 4, Informative

    It has a jack!! This is (for me) a big ++.

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  6. They can't and didn't by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It has face unlocking - based on cameras. Cramming two cameras in the front of a phone is not very technically challenging, even less so when you consider as someone else said the device doesn't have an edge to edge screen (screen does not extend to bottom edge).

    People accuse Apple all the time of valuing style over substance. But here's a phone that did not have to have a notch, it just did it because the iPhone X made everyone think notches looked cool, ignoring the functional reasons WHY the iPhone X has a notch to begin with.

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    1. Re:They can't and didn't by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I really can’t get my head around the fact that manufacturers are copying the notch. It’s an ugly workaround, and as someone who develops apps every once in a while, it’s a really annoying exception to have to take into account.

      If you have to have a bezel-less phone, do what one Chinese did in their flagship phone: make the front facing camera pop up out of the top of the screen. This has the added benefit that you know when the thing is watching you. Of course that means no Face ID but they could have added a fingerprint scanner on the back or whatever.

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  7. Re:If Motorola can do it well by Wycliffe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Did you finally stop complaining about how the iMac didn't have a floppy disk?

    The floppy disk was replaced by something better, faster, cheaper, more reliable and with more storage.
    Computers stopped having floppy disk drives several years after people stopped using them.
    Same with CD drives. People started rarely using the CD drives so companies started dropping them.
    Bluetooth has been around for years but hasn't had a significant effect on the use of the 3.5 jack.
    A large percentage of people still prefer the 3.5 jack. You drop a technology AFTER people stop
    wanting it not to force people to stop using it.

  8. Bad Thing? by sqorbit · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why is this bad thing? Do you like the look and feel of an iPhone but don't like iOS, now you have an option. They were obviously very deliberate in creating a phone they thought would attract iPhone fans. Maybe it's because it doesn't cost more since there's no Apple logo on it that people are upset. Every damn SUV out there looks the same now. No one complains when calls Kia shameless when they make their SUVs look like Lexus.

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  9. "egregious clone" by Tailhook · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The entire PC / laptop market had its origins in "clones." We used to celebrate this, even as the lawsuits flew every which way. Now we get media hit pieces and angry apple fanbois demanding explanations.

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  10. Re:If Motorola can do it well by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The floppy disk was obsolete. Headphones are not obsolete, nor will they be.

    If you are old enough to remember when the original iMac came out in 1998, you should also remember that the technorati bitched loud and hard about the absence of a floppy.

    Headphones are not obsolete; just the wire between your head and the music.

  11. Re:If Motorola can do it well by MachineShedFred · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It would probably help if Bluetooth audio had a universal standard codec that didn't sound like shit. But it doesn't.

    Devices and headphones usually support better codecs these days, but unless you get a device AND headphones that both support the better codec, you're stuck with the lowest common denominator, which is terrible.

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  12. Re:If Motorola can do it well by Fly+Swatter · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Headphones are not obsolete; just the wire between your head and the music.

    No they aren't, just because some company is too lazy or incompetent to incorporate it into their 'design philosophy' does not make it obsolete.

    In an age where every wireless signal can be hacked, it is quite ironic that they are trying to abandon the 'wire'. Good headphones can last a decade, when the non replaceable battery starts to decline in three years you just throw them out? Stupid.

  13. Re:If Motorola can do it well by squiggleslash · · Score: 2

    The floppy disc was useless even in 1998. It held less than two megabytes of data, which even then was not much. The Internet was a "thing" even back then, and transferring files using a network connection was, in practice, more viable than having a stack of floppies and having to use an archiver to cut up files into pieces and copy them onto floppies.

    The vast, vast, majority of audio devices have a 3.5mm jack. That includes both the ones you have, and the ones you'll ultimately connect to when you're away from home. Bluetooth is not ubiquitous, and the audio quality of Bluetooth is poor. Digital wired headphones are virtually non-existent, in part because of Apple's refusal to follow standards for a wired connector, and the Android's world's current split between uUSB and USB-C, with the Android world also not standardizing on common capabilities for USB, such as simultaneous charging plus communications.

    In addition to the poor quality of Bluetooth, BT devices tend not to play nicely with one another. While I can plug my phone into my car radio to play music, and answer the phone with a bluetooth headset for actual phone calls, trying to do the same thing with both devices being bluetooth just never seems to work.

    Apple did this too early. If they had:

    1. Standardized on USB-C.
    2. Waited for others to standardize on USB-C
    3. Required pass-through capabilities on USB plugs (so making it easy to add chargers, etc)
    4. Promoted USB headsets.

    ...then, yeah, dropping the 3.5mm jack might have made sense. But they didn't. Instead they charged ahead with a half assed, unreliable, poor quality, inferior alternative to a technology that is known, reliable, standardized, and "just works". And the technology they adopted literally does not have a single advantage, not one, to end users over the one they replaced.

    You cannot seriously compare that to CDs vs floppies.

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  14. Re:If Motorola can do it well by rickb928 · · Score: 2

    You're not getting 320k streaming anyways unless you ask for it, so SBC is adequate with decent headsets. But...

    aptX claims to be better, but I'm not hearing it, even with lossless source.

    aptX HD? Feh. Better, just.

    LDAC I heard in a Sony store. Impressive, but that was not in my car, the gym, or parking lot. When it's ubiquitous, I'll try to turn it on, but I don't see that coming.

    AAC? You bought an iPhone. Go splurge on decent headphones. Apple does not manufacture any.

    My own media server holds lossless (WAV and Ogg) and 320K, I choose depending on the situation. Since commercial radio seems to be 128k I need to swap out my cars radio for anything that streams, though cars are terrible audio environments and do not reward spending unless you just a thumper. I only have wired over-ear headphones right now, but I may yet spend money on my head, never know, most disappointed me.

    I knew I was in for a long haul when I realized 128k MP3s sounded worse than my MiniDisc. Arg.

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  15. Re:If Motorola can do it well by jellomizer · · Score: 2

    Back in 1998 Floppy disks were the standard for transferring data back and forth. Networked computers were still rare. CD Burners were new technology and being write once made them expensive to use. Other formats were not popular. An IBM Formatted Floppy could go a long way.

    USB was new then and often would mess up early OS's.

    When the iMac came out with only a CD player, pure panic came from that idea.

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  16. Re:If Motorola can do it well by Wycliffe · · Score: 2

    We'd still be setting 9600,N,8,1 for our Printers and using Parallel Ports for our Scanners if we lived in YOUR world.

    Remember that Henry Ford quote about "If I asked people what they wanted, they would have said 'A faster horse' "? Same thing applies.

    People want change ONLY if they feel no change.

    Again, parallel ports were dropped AFTER people switched to usb. For several years, most computers had both usb ports and parallel ports and even serial ports.
    Bluetooth has been around for a decade but people aren't switching to it because it is more expensive, more clunky, and something else to charge.
    If you want people to switch to wireless headphones then create something that people actually want to switch to.

  17. Re:If Motorola can do it well by squiggleslash · · Score: 3, Insightful

    We'd still be setting 9600,N,8,1 for our Printers and using Parallel Ports for our Scanners if we lived in YOUR world.

    No, if we lived in your world we'd have replaced parallel and serial ports with IrDA, rather than waiting for USB, Ethernet, and Wi-fi to come along.

    You are literally arguing for change for the sake of change, without any regard to whether something is actually an improvement or not. Do you work for Twitter perhaps?

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  18. Re:If Motorola can do it well by lgw · · Score: 2

    $10 wired headphone sound perfectly fine on a call.

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