Apple Sets New iPhone Event For September 12 (venturebeat.com)
Apple has officially sent out invitations to its latest media event, 'Gather round,' which will be held on September 12, 2018 -- a year to the day after the iPhone 8 and iPhone X were officially revealed. From a report: Following recent tradition, the event will start at 10:00 a.m. Pacific, and will be held in the Steve Jobs Theater at Apple's headquarters in Cupertino, California. The invite's theme is a pun on the circular shape of the Apple Park building, depicted with a golden tone. In addition to featuring finished versions of iOS 12 and watchOS 5, the event is expected to include the launch of three new iPhones -- possibly named the iPhone Xs (5.8-inch/6.5-inch) and iPhone Xc, reportedly including new gold-toned options -- as well as the new Apple Watch Series 4 with larger screens. A small software update to the Apple TV, tvOS 12, is also likely to arrive at the September event, as are Apple's long-awaited AirPower wireless charging pad and a wireless charging case for AirPods earphones.
And use the date as a pun on the iPhone 9 and iPhone 11. Can't see anything wrong with that idea.
They will show copies of Android manufactures full screen phones with a very limited product range they have merged into the bland. Apple have become just a phone company, and a dull one at that.
Yes, just like they copied the notch last year, they'll copy some other feature this year.
Oh wait...
They did until after Essential Phone did it first, and worse. In reality it is just an evolution of display technology that allows for none square screens, and it appears on even the cheapest phones. I personally like the Android copies the notch pictures that has gone round, they show how ugly Apples use of this technology.
Other Phone manufactures love the notch. Accusations of them copying it drive more sales, or Actively mocking it to do like wise. Both show (and your comment) how little Apple has to offer...seriously a notch, You can't even tell an Apple phone from a Phone a 16th of its value. God bless dumbed down news, because nobody talks about specifications any more.
I had upgraded my phone last year, so I am not too interested what is happening this year.
However.
Apple updates their product line once a year, Android Phone (and the few WebOS) users complain about all the features and designs they had copied from them and put it into the Apple product that they are selling as New and Unique. 3-9 months later Android phone makers will copy iPhone features and people will complain about that.
In short the quality of the ideas and the originality of them will come down to what device you plan to get, or will get in the future.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
Upgrade time is here indeed for fruit lovers. Apples phones devalue different to other phone companies. The drop in price like a stone after launch and suffer badly from OS updates. That's without their ongoing small battery problems, and limited storage(unless you through the nose...and that doesn't help the resale price)
Then you probably spent too much IMO on your phone. The Mid-Range Android phones have been innovative with real improvements, and have better features that than premium(sic) phones if you love things like a headphone jack, sdcard, radio and irblaster...and even real buttons, are cheap to buy and devalue very little. At the top end companies are starting to push the average selling price up by producing great value phones like the Pocophone F1 $300..and they don't devalue anything like as fast.
Round iphone confirmed !!
I am disappointed you got downvoted for the brilliant irony. Apple is going to produce a rectangular slap with as much screen as possible. The news (drumroll) that they are doing a midrange(2 sims and a screen without burn in) at apple mark-up for the logo...without headphone jack/sdcard/ir blaster/radio etc, but yeah thats going to be a generic phone as well...maybe if you buy a case with a hole in people will see the logo through the hand your holding it with.
The Mid-Range Android phones have been innovative with real improvements,
Oh, you mean like multiple notches?
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
That's all I care about. I paid $135 for my second hand SE, it runs perfectly and I look retro-chic
Shouldn't it be called the iPhone Excess?
No good deed goes unpunished.
Oh, you mean like multiple notches
Loving the fact a apple superfanatic is mocking the notch...Absolutely the mid range is experimental, and maybe the results are UGLY, but that is what choice is about. Ironically a second notch would have meant that Apples lack of an on screen fingerprint reader would have been less of a oversight, something mid-range Androids have.
That's all I care about. I paid $135 for my second hand SE, it runs perfectly and I look retro-chic
...except its not going to happen Apple only do a small range of phones...and they have chosen to copy Androids mid-range phones to chase its dwindling Chinese market. The iphone 4 was a great design ; it looked classy and distinct(seriously the notch), but today I am not so sure if its Sony/Braun looks cut it, especially with the fanatics.
There are a whole host of manufactures producing modern phone on modern SOC in that price range, brand new.
Which Android phones offer unlocked bootloaders? Not many these days. Huawei is definitely ensuring they don't.
My point still stands, because 99.9% of users do not have a rootable device, nor know/care what the "#" prompt means.
Why do Apple fanatics just lie. Rooting means you can run Fortnight. No Apple phones are rootable devices, and the new ones won't be, its a disgrace. In context of this article Lineage OS runs on these phones, most are quite popular. more people have a rootable device.
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i think you just lay them on a dock which is plugged in...but you're close...another excuse to buy more stuff
nothing to see here - move along
Apples phones devalue different to other phone companies. The drop in price like a stone after launch
Once I figured out what you were trying to say, I found that much of it didn't ring true to me, so I decided to do some research. Here are the used and launch prices for the highest-capacity, non-plus-sized, unlocked, currently-supported flagship models from both Apple and Samsung:
- iPhone X (256GB): $862 used, $1149 new (25% drop in 9 months, or 2.8%/mo.)
- iPhone 7 (256GB): $500 used, $849 new (41% drop in 22 months, or 1.9%/mo.)
- iPhone 6S (128GB): $231 used, $849 new (73% drop in 34 months, or 2.1%/mo.)
- iPhone 6 (128GB): $165 used, $849 new (81% drop in 46 months, or 1.8%/mo.)
- iPhone 5S (64GB): $120 used, $849 new (86% drop in 58 months, or 1.5%/mo.)
- Samsung Galaxy S9 (256GB): $650 used, $840 new (23% drop in 5 months, or 4.5%/mo.)
- Samsung Galaxy S8 (64GB): $380 used, $750 new (49% drop in 16 months, or 3.1%/mo.)
- Samsung Galaxy S7 (64GB): $150 used, $672 new (78% drop in 29 months, or 2.7%/mo.)
I'll break down my methodology in detail at the bottom, but I think the numbers kinda speak for themselves.
Take, for instance, the fact that the worst average monthly drop in value we see for the iPhone is nearly the same as the best average monthly drop we see for the Galaxy. And the fact that despite having higher launch prices (and higher capacities, which you said would be worse for resale), the iPhones consistently maintained more of their value than Galaxy models of comparable age. There is a steep drop for each of them in each of those first few years, but that's to be expected, simply because smartphones are a still-maturing market, meaning that there's a relatively rapid upgrade cycle for most buyers (and a corresponding glut of used devices for those most recent few years).
If you're wondering why there are fewer Galaxy models listed, as I said at the top, I limited myself to currently supported models. 2015's Galaxy S6 is running Android 7 and 2012's iPhone 5 is running iOS 10, so neither made the cut.
All of which is to say, this falls in line with what I've seen and heard anecdotally over the years regarding iPhones being better supported with OS updates and retaining more of their value than their competition. The numbers seem to bear those anecdotes out.
Personally, I'm astounded that my five year old, 64GB iPhone 5S is still worth $120 today. I've actually had the money set aside to upgrade for years, but Apple has said that the 5S is going to still be receiving OS updates, and mine still has enough storage for my current needs, still gets a few days of light battery use on a single charge (though it's noticeably worse than a year ago), and still performs well enough with all the apps I use. As a result, I'm seriously contemplating holding off on upgrading yet again for another year, just like I did last year and the year before, though I may do a $30 battery replacement via ifixit.com.
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Methodology:
Each "used" price is the current, highest trending price shown on eBay based on the last 90 days of sold listings. For models without a trending price, I used the median price of all sold listings. Each "new" price was the SIM-free/unlocked launch price direct from the manufacturer (except in the case of the S7, since Verizon seemed to be the only place to purchase it unlocked at launch). I only considered unlocked models in an effort to keep things fair, because otherwise I expect that the steep discounts locked iPhones have historically benefitted from would significantly bias the results in their favor. Plus/+/Edge/etc. models were excluded simply for the sake of consistency (e.g. there is no iPhone X Plus) and, frankly, to save myself the time of looking up dozens of more models. The highest capacity of each model at launch was used because you said higher capacities were worse for resale.
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So many have been clamoring after.
Your "long, long list" includes many phones which do not match the poster's criteria of "these days". The Samsung Galaxy S4 and S5 models, for example, from many years do not count.
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Your "long, long list" includes many phones which do not match the poster's criteria of "these days". The Samsung Galaxy S4 and S5 models, for example, from many years do not count.
I am glad you noticed that android a phone launched in March 14, 2013 is still supported. That phone was a bargin.
Thank you for spending the time. The Best Value Phones are Android 6 months old, and Chinese imports. Comparing the Apples second hand with those of Androids is difficult. Ignoring the fact you have chosen a Samsung expensive phone which I wouldn't personally buy for the same reasons as I wouldn't buy a Apple. The average selling price is about $260 and rising
The main reason your post is flawed, is you are comparing RRP not actual selling price and monthly drops, not releases of new models. Using your figures.
-iPhone 8 (256GB): $500 used, $849 new (Drop of 42%($350) in one model)
- iPhone 7 (256GB): $231 used, $849 new (Drop of 73% in two models)
- iPhone 6S (128GB): $165 used, $849 new (Drop of 81% in three models)
- iPhone 6 (128GB): $120 used, $849 new (Drop of 86% drop in four models)
I don't really like using percentages, as the iPhone devalues significantly more than the total cost of the average phone, and significantly more than a brand new top end android phone like the Pocophone F1.
The figures show exactly what you would expect. If you are an Apple lover, buying last years model second hand after launch date is the sweet spot. As I said SELL NOW!
Is easy maths.
No what I'm saying is you were willing to twist what the poster said instead of actually complying and your list is essentially useless. As for those models many of them can't be updated to the newest Android so you are not being honest in that regard either.
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