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JD.com's Billionaire CEO Was Arrested On Allegation of Rape (bloomberg.com)

JD.com's billionaire founder, Liu Qiangdong, is under investigation for a suspected rape in a weekend incident that led to his arrest in Minnesota. He was reportedly in Minneapolis for his studies since he is a doctoral student at the University of Minnesota. According to the Financial Times and Star-Tribune, the case involves a Chinese student at the college. Bloomberg reports: Liu was brought in at 11:32 p.m. Aug. 31 on an accusation of "criminal sexual conduct" and released just more than 16 hours later, according to arrest records. Minneapolis Police Department spokesman John Elder said the case is being investigated as a rape, but authorities decided not to keep Liu in custody and haven't imposed any travel restrictions while conducting their investigation. Police responded to a location Friday night, found Liu and another individual, took photos and arrested the CEO, Elder said. Liu, 45, returned to China after his release and was at work Tuesday at JD.com, the country's largest e-commerce company after Alibaba.

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  1. Per Bloomberg and other sources by bferrell · · Score: 1

    Police haven’t charged Liu, who’s now back at work in China

    1. Re:Per Bloomberg and other sources by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      He has a hot wife, 19 years his junior, and two young children.

      His wife, Zhang Zetian, was well known in China before their marriage, and is a successful businesswoman in her own right.

      He may have some 'splaining to do back in Beijing.

    2. Re:Per Bloomberg and other sources by Luckyo · · Score: 1

      "Dear wife, google title nine, sexual misconduct and be horrified at this backwards puritan insanity they have going in the States".

      Explanation done. Wife horrified, advices husband not to hire any women from US, and avoid being in the same room with them without keeping the door open.

    3. Re:Per Bloomberg and other sources by Cederic · · Score: 2

      Demonstrating once more why rape accusation victims should have anonymity.

      At least he doesn't have a boss that'll ask him awkward questions, and is in a country where his female employees wont sue the company for forcing them to work with an accused rapist.

    4. Re: Per Bloomberg and other sources by Nidi62 · · Score: 1

      I would say that selling an asset that you have for billions of dollars would qualify as a good business transaction.

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    5. Re:Per Bloomberg and other sources by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Of course they haven't. Note how it was a Chinese student accusing a Chinese businessman who was visiting from China.

      So, either the Chinese government did this as a way of warning Richard/Liu that he cannot escape their control even in the US...

      Of the US government did it as a warning to China that not even their richest and most powerful are safe...

      or, 3rd option, the guy is human garbage and really was about to get jiggy with or without it (consent).

      captcha: smuggles
      Are... are you trying to tell us something, Captcha?

  2. Be careful if you are rich/powerful visitor in USA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Look at what happened to Dominique Strauss-Kahn. Meanwhile I heard that Harvey Weinstein is still out on bail.

  3. Not the first time by Tablizer · · Score: 2, Informative

    He got into a similar snafu in Australia a couple of years ago. That suggests he at least keeps playing too close to the line in terms of risking accusations. That's not necessarily saying he's guilty, just that he is doing something that invites accusations.

    1. Re: Not the first time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Being a billionaire?

    2. Re:Not the first time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      No he didn't. He was never accused of anything in that case. He just didn't want his name associated in a court case about sexual assault, and was denied by an Australian court.

    3. Re: Not the first time by Luckyo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Hint: those are not the same thing, and billionaires generally don't need to be sexually predatory. Human females are hypergamic, and therefore throw themselves all over men with peak status traits, such as extreme wealth. If anything, someone in his position has to reject advances of opposite sex too aggressively.

    4. Re:Not the first time by Luckyo · · Score: 3, Informative

      Straight from the story:

      >Earlier this year, a guest at a party Liu hosted in downtown Sydney was convicted of sexually assaulting a fellow guest after the event. There was no accusation of any misconduct by Liu. The billionaire lost a legal attempt to keep his name out of the records. Over the weekend, JD said it will take legal action against the publishing of untrue reports or rumors.

      Good to see that spreading false rumours that are clearly debunked in the linked story still gets happily modded up on slashdot as "insightful".

    5. Re:Not the first time by Tablizer · · Score: 2

      Well, okay, a rape (allegedly) happened at one of his parties. He was not accused of rape himself then. I stand corrected. Thanks.

    6. Re: Not the first time by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      Careful, nothing is worse than the wrath of a woman rejected.

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    7. Re:Not the first time by neo-mkrey · · Score: 1

      or he has enough money to pay people to look the other way

    8. Re: Not the first time by Luckyo · · Score: 1

      That's not how human attraction works. It's well documented that men go for signs of fertility in women and women go for signs of status in men.

      As in women are attracted to status symbols in men. Billionaires can afford the highest status among men, and as a result are the most attractive among men. And most attractive people don't get cheated on with even remotely the same amount of frequency as your average man does.

      Stop thinking TV dramas have any kind of relation to reality and read books on relevant human psychology.

      The "cheating with the gardener" stereotype didn't actually exist until very recently, when upper middle class came into existence. That's mostly men who are decently wealthy enough to secure women of high reproductive value, but not high enough to secure their loyalty the same way genuine aristocracy could throughout the history.

      And billionaires are at the top of modern aristocracy.

    9. Re: Not the first time by Luckyo · · Score: 1

      Which is why billionaires tend to be highly selective with what women they allow close, and why there's a massive competition among the most attractive women on who gets to get close.

      It's a self-selecting competition, where women compete among each other for favours of the top man. And top man simply gets to select from the cream of the crop at will, and should any woman show weakness, her own competitors will tear her down long before billionaire has to do anything about it.

      Which is why billionaires in general don't need to be predatory. The "food" doesn't just literally jump on their plate - it competes for the right to just get a chance to do so with a lot of other delicious "food".

  4. Re:OK so... by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

    How do you guys not know one of the biggest e-commerce sites on the planet?

  5. What does him being a billionaire have to do with by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    Why does the title need to describe him as a billionaire? Is that to make the class envy types despise him? Or to make an inference to really rich people being bad people?

    Besides that, why is this even on Slashdot? If he's convicted, it might be a story (as a CEO of a tech company no one outside of China has heard of). Until then, we are innocent until proven guilty in the US (not China) and this really is a non-story for the average nerd. Seems way to sensationalist, especially with the billionaire angle thrown in, to be worth posting.

  6. Re:What is JD? by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

    This does not describe why this should matter to us geeks. JD?

    JD.com

    It is the world's 3rd biggest ecommerce site, after Alibaba and Amazon.

    If Jeff Bezos was arrested, would you still consider it "not news"?

  7. Re:Be careful if you are rich/powerful visitor in by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Look at what happened to Dominique Strauss-Kahn.

    His career was destroyed and then the charges were dropped. So he was punished despite being convicted of nothing. So much for "presumption of innocence".

    Meanwhile I heard that Harvey Weinstein is still out on bail.

    As he should be. He hasn't been convicted of anything (yet).

    We should not complain when rich people are treated fairly. We should complain when people, rich or poor, are treated unfairly.

  8. Re:OK so... by Fly+Swatter · · Score: 1

    This is why the .com tld should be abolished, that way we would know that if it isn't .us we don't care. Or if it is .us you don't care.

  9. Re:OK so... by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

    What is the difference if it is US or not? They ship worldwide. I order stuff from jd.com and Amazon all the time here in the US.

  10. No males should step foot in the land of the free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    We have an epidemic of rape going on. Males are constantly raping helpless girls. They are raping them with their actions and thoughts. It is pretty much impossible to not rape a girl. If I say hi to a girl, I have raped her with my mouth. If i look at a girl, I rape her with my eyes. If i ignore her, I rape her by ignoring her.

    It is kind of like being a racist. It is not possible to not be a racist if you are white, and not possible to not rape girls if you have a penis. Nothing you can do about it except stay in a place that is not so bat shit crazy.

  11. Re:Be careful if you are rich/powerful visitor in by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

    America just gave Louis CK his career back. Americans support James Gunn who said things like "I like when little boys touch me in my silly place. Shh!". Dan Harmon, creator of Rick and Morty, made an animated short about cutting children and having sex with them. Apparently there's nothing wrong with anything they did, so I don't see this CEO getting in trouble. Or maybe you have to be a popular entertainer to get a pass on sex crimes? Either way his chances are good of getting off scot free.

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  12. Re:What does him being a billionaire have to do wi by rtb61 · · Score: 1

    Pretty interesting note in that story. Arrested on rape allegations and allowed to leave the country and go to a country without extradition treaties, now how did that happen. Innocent or guilty, easy to guess, comes back innocent, stays in China well, we can all guess exactly why.

    Question is, is he safer here or in China. Become an embarrassment to the government of China and well your company will survive dependent upon the connections around you but you might not. Prosecuted on corruption charges is the normal outcome. Play the fool in Australia, well get one pass, repeat in the US, well, more of an individual burden to the government than a benefit. So what is his social score now.

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  13. Counterfeit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Reminds me of a joke. A prostitute walks into a bar and hands over a 100 dollar note to the bartender and asks for a drink. Bartender says the note is counterfeit. She shouts " I have been raped!!"

    Its obvious that he is hosting parties with Escorts and then there are some disputes on what was paid for and what was not.

  14. Patrick Kane case was full of BS by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    "significant material inconsistencies" between the woman's claims and those of other witnesses, although he did not detail those discrepancies. He said there was no proof she had been penetrated, an element required under New York law to bring a rape charge.

  15. Re:OK so... by Fly+Swatter · · Score: 1

    I was being facetious. However when I did go to jd.com I got their corporate info page in english, followed the link on that page to their 'sales(?) portal page' and the url included usa but everything was in chinese... Yea never heard of it till now. But then again I would never buy anything on alibabababa either.

  16. Re:Musk by Aighearach · · Score: 1

    Yeah, it seems pretty clear-cut to me; either the guy did "marry" a 12 year old child, or he didn't.

    The accusation contains a considerably high level of specificity regarding what is accused. Not exactly a he-said, he-said.

  17. Re:Musk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    But the liberals media constantly says every Catholic on the planet is a child rapist.

    No they don't.

    They may not say that exactly, but the strongly hint at it, and suggest that if you believe in Peter's church, you may not be raping everyone you see, but then again you probably are.

    No, they don't do that either.

    Maybe your source of what is reported on 'liberal' media isn't first hand. You should try to check what they actually say instead of relying on someone else to tell you.

    What the media doesn't say but that I say is that the Catholic church have been protecting child rapists for a long time and keeps doing it.
    Whenever they find out that one of their priests are raping children they cover it up instead of reporting it to the authorities.
    Essentially they are doing the same thing as other criminal gangs, they handle it internally instead of using the legal system.

  18. Re:Musk by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    Don't be silly, not every catholic. Only the priests.

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  19. Re: It's all Rape by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    You're so pre-millennium, it ain't even funny.

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  20. Re:fake news by Cederic · · Score: 1

    No, not all date rape is fake. The moment the girl says or indicates that she wants you to stop, you stop or it's rape.

    It's not difficult. Well, it can be if she times it really badly, but the principle is basic enough that even you should be able to understand it: Girl says no, you don't fuck her.

    Being on a date has nothing to do with it.

  21. Re:Be careful if you are rich/powerful visitor in by KiloByte · · Score: 1

    Right... so if you are an exec of Burger King, getting fired then finding work as a restaurant team leader at McDonald is not "destroying a career", and thinking otherwise is a fabrication. The scope of his downfall is similar.

    Mere few decades ago. false accusation of an affair were the modus operandi of the Right; false accusations of rape and "harassment" are favoured weapon of the Left today.

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  22. Re: Be careful if you are rich/powerful visitor in by Millennium · · Score: 1

    Right... so if you are an exec of Burger King, getting fired then finding work as a restaurant team leader at McDonald is not "destroying a career", and thinking otherwise is a fabrication. The scope of his downfall is similar.

    Um... err... wut

  23. Re: One law for the rich and the other for the poo by Millennium · · Score: 1

    Which leads me to believe that anon really stands for Al-Anon.

    A support group for loved ones of alcohol abusers? I'm not so sure the metaphor holds: it would require them to have loved ones.

  24. Since when do we let suspects leave the US? by sabbede · · Score: 1

    He was arrested, arraigned, but then allowed to leave the country while the investigation is ongoing? Whatever happened to, "don't leave town"?

  25. Re:OK so... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    Just lucky I guess. I try to avoid advertising and apparently I successfully avoided theirs. I have never heard of them even a little bit. Sounds like their marketing department is at fail.

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  26. Re:What does him being a billionaire have to do wi by guruevi · · Score: 1

    You can get arrested on mere accusation.

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  27. Re:What is JD? by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1

    This does not describe why this should matter to us geeks. JD?

    JD.com

    It is the world's 3rd biggest ecommerce site, after Alibaba and Amazon.

    If Jeff Bezos was arrested, would you still consider it "not news"?

    Do average Chinese people care about every move that Jeff Bezos makes?

  28. Re:What is JD? by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1

    This does not describe why this should matter to us geeks. JD?

    It's a big website! So it's "tech"!

    A man, (allegedly) sexually assaulting a woman , in tech!!!

  29. Re:What is JD? by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

    Do average Chinese people care about every move that Jeff Bezos makes?

    Slashdot is not a site for "average" people.

  30. Re:What does him being a billionaire have to do wi by mr.mctibbs · · Score: 1

    The ultra rich being bad people doesn't need an inference, it's a truism.

  31. Re:What is JD? by Ryyuajnin · · Score: 1

    BFD, everything humans do is technologically elevated, this is garbage news that has zero science or technology relevancy. its just fucking clickbait. this is exactly why I love SoylentNews so much better. goddamn parent company continues to suck at maintaining what they bought.

  32. Re:Be careful if you are rich/powerful visitor in by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

    The scope of his downfall is similar.

    No it's not. I think you need to reread what you just wrote and ask yourself if you seriously meant to write that.

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  33. Re: Poor poor billionaires by KiloByte · · Score: 1

    Let us cry for the poor raepy billionaires. Go fucking hang you traitor to freedom.

    The biggest problem for freedom is when those in power can destroy anyone they want. No matter if it applies to Strauss-Kahn or some beggar. He isn't the nicest kind of person, but he dared to act in a way not liked by the US -- that was the reason for staging the accusation, not any misconduct of some kind.

    If your country stoops to such methods, you're no better than Putin's fascist Russia.

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  34. Re: fake news by ebvwfbw · · Score: 1

    They know. This IS bullshit. Sometimes they want to say no the next week. Then it's rape? NOPE.
    Some women think any sex with a man is rape.

    So how to say no? How about please stop, it hurts. Ow. Not hard.

    Things that encourage - fuck me harder, make me scream! God you are so huge and like a rock! Let me ride you like the stallion you are.
    All things I've heard.