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Most Drivers Don't Understand Limitations of Car Safety Systems, AAA Finds (usatoday.com)

A new study by AAA found that most drivers don't understand the limitations of advanced safety technology installed on their new vehicles. "The study indicates that drivers overestimate the capabilities of features such as blind-spot monitoring systems, automatic emergency braking and adaptive cruise control," reports USA Today. "The findings raise questions about whether Americans are ready to adapt to partially self-driving vehicles, which typically require drivers to remain alert and ready to take over the steering wheel if the car can't handle the conditions it encounters." Here are the problem spots flagged by AAA: - Blind-spot monitoring: Nearly 80 percent of drivers don't understand the limitations or thought that the system had greater capability to detect fast-approaching vehicles, bicycles and pedestrians. Relying too much on blind-spot monitoring, about 25 percent don't look for oncoming vehicles when they change lanes.

- Forward-collision warning and automatic emergency braking: Many drivers confuse the two. One is a warning system, while the other takes action. More than 40 percent of drivers don't know these limitations.

- Adaptive cruise control: About 29 percent of drivers who use this system, which accelerates and brakes on its own, are sometimes comfortable "engaging in other activities" while the system is activated, according to the study.
The researchers did note that these safety features can prevent about 40 percent of crashes and 30 percent of crash deaths.

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  1. And this is why I am for public transportation. by PopeRatzzo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No matter how you look at it, having a human in the loop is a setup for failure. Public transportation yet again solves this problem in addition to just about every other problem you can think of.

    Hire a well-paid, attentive train driver, hold him to the flame, and be done with it.

    1. Re:And this is why I am for public transportation. by JustNiz · · Score: 5, Insightful

      > having a human in the loop is a setup for failure.

      No, having a BAD DRIVER in the loop is a setup for failure.
      The problem at least in the USA is that the driving test is pretty much only focussed on your ability to follow road signs and laws. it does almost nothing to test your actual ability to properly control the vehicle itself, especially in loss of traction type situations.

    2. Re:And this is why I am for public transportation. by CaffeinatedBacon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      public transport can never be as good as owning a car.

      Traffic jam vs subway.

    3. Re:And this is why I am for public transportation. by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I both work in this industry and own a vehicle made by someone we don't compete with.

      People think it's like a Movie or TV show they watched.

      Where is the repository to submit an issue? As someone that deals with CANape and ADAS systems all day long, where can I get the .a2l file for my car? Without me cracking it open to see, what embedded chipset(s) are you using? What ADAS level are these? What ASIL level is your entire stack? Can I see a basic block diagram (Simulink) of the system?

      If anyone at Subaru is reading. The 2019 Outback with EyeSight adaptive cruise control doesn't detect a stopped vehicle as a 'vehicle' ahead of it.

      Also, stop treating the 'keep your lane' feature like a bang bang controller. Estimate a dead center path and keep it centered on that. You'd also probably subconsciously train the drivers to keep it in the middle of the road instead of bouncing from side to side.

      Most of these complaints would probably be addressed by giving product demos. At some point I'm going to string up a tarp and see exactly how braking acts. I've pushed it to my "Holy shit stop" limit already.

      Also, the icons are confusing as shit. I know some UX team spent years on those, give me a better way to know you see the car in front of me than some blinking light. Half the people on the road would drive with an oil light on, and do.

      They also need to standardize on some name. Every company has a cutesy marketing term for what their product does.

    4. Re:And this is why I am for public transportation. by complete+loony · · Score: 4, Informative

      This is the "right way" to test those braking features; The Collapsile Crash Test Robot Car

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  2. Re: And this is why I am for public transportation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Try taking a train in the US. It's seriously fucked up.

  3. Seems to me in their Advertising by oldgraybeard · · Score: 5, Insightful

    the individuals are not even bothering to check behind them, or check their side mirrors, etc.because the safety devices in the cars would warn them. The industry has been dumbing down driving. I have always seen this as a problem. You tell individuals buy our car and you won't need to worry about something they won't.
    Also if the safety devices may be perfect, How are driver less cars to work at this point in the development cycle. I believe in driver less cars but feel they are further in our future than most think.

    Note the Tesla driver putting his car on auto pilot and then watching a movie before his wreak. Can't say that was really Tesla's fault! They say your supposed to be poised with your hands hovering over the wheel and aware of the situation and be ready to take control. In that case I would just be doing the driving to help me stay aware and awake.

    Just my 2 cents ;)

  4. Re:Average age of a car in America is 11.5 years by balsy2001 · · Score: 5, Informative

    I watch a TED talk by the head of googles driverless car project. He said in the talk that you cant partially automate a car for exactly this reason. Has to be all or nothing. Google new this years ago. See here https://www.ted.com/talks/chri...

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  5. Try rewording the warnings: by Tablizer · · Score: 4, Funny

    "WARNING: This device has a 30% chance of getting your dick torn off if used improperly."

    Politicians and marketers learned you have to be short, blunt, dramatic, and over-simplistic to get anybody's attention these days.

  6. Control groups? by RhettLivingston · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Some of these numbers seem about like what I've observed of drivers who probably don't have these technologies. Within the past week I've had at least 4 drivers I can remember, including a bus driver and a truck driver, switch lanes while I was beside them. I doubt I drove more than about 80 miles total during that time - all in city traffic. I don't think the vehicles I remember were new enough to have blind spot monitoring or that I was really in a blind spot. Also, I drive about the same speed as the other traffic, so I was not approaching fast or anything that could have caused the issue. None of them looked.

    Also, I've seen people going down the interstate reading newspapers, reading books, shaving, etc. most of my life. They were likely using plain old-fashioned non-adaptive cruise control. I don't know that 29% feeling comfortable doing other things while using their adaptive cruise control is a significant increase over regular cruise control without seeing the control group data.

    AAA is all about changing people's behaviors. Even if these technologies show no increase in problems, they would still publish this story because they see a potential for improvement if people change. And they would always leave out the control group because they want to shock people.

    In general, if a technology requires driver education to be effective, forget it in this country. The only question that matters is whether the statistics indicate there is a reduction in accidents with the technology. If there is, use the technology. The fact that some get killed who might not have without it is irrelevant. Only the average matters when looking for societal progress.

  7. Stopping on the road is very dangerous by raymorris · · Score: 5, Insightful

    > the car should stop moving.

    FYI, that's one of the more dangerous things you can do. You're quite likely to get rear-ended or T-boned. Some people's default reaction of stomping on the brakes whenever something unexpected happens is a leading cause of accidents.