Slashdot Mirror


Winamp Media Player To Return as a Platform-Agnostic Audio Mobile App Next Year; Desktop Application Receives an Update (techcrunch.com)

The charmingly outdated media player Winamp is being reinvented as a platform-agnostic audio mobile app that brings together all your music, podcasts, and streaming services to a single location. From a report: It's an ambitious relaunch, but the company behind it says it's still all about the millions-strong global Winamp community -- and as proof, the original desktop app is getting an official update as well. For those who don't remember: Winamp was the MP3 player of choice around the turn of the century, but went through a rocky period during Aol ownership and failed to counter the likes of iTunes and the onslaught of streaming services, and more or less crumbled over the years. The original app, last updated in 2013, still works, but to say it's long in the tooth would be something of an understatement (the community has worked hard to keep it updated, however). So it's with pleasure that I can confirm rumors that substantial updates are on the way.

"There will be a completely new version next year, with the legacy of Winamp but a more complete listening experience," said Alexandre Saboundjan, CEO of Radionomy, the company that bought Winamp (or what remained of it) in 2014. "You can listen to the MP3s you may have at home, but also to the cloud, to podcasts, to streaming radio stations, to a playlist you perhaps have built. People want one single experience," he concluded. "I think Winamp is the perfect player to bring that to everybody. And we want people to have it on every device."

28 of 175 comments (clear)

  1. This doesn't sound good. by DarkRookie2 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    From the article:
    "What I see today is you have to jump from one player to another player or aggregator if you want to listen to a radio station, to a podcast player if you want to listen to a podcast — this, to me, is not the final experience,” he explained. It’s all audio, and it’s all searchable in one fashion or another. So why isn’t it all in one place?"

    Kinda the reason I use WinAmp is because it is not this.

    --
    http://progressquest.com/spoltog.php?name=Son+Of+Son+Of+DarkRookie
    1. Re:This doesn't sound good. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If want a one size fits all just use VLC. That's what I've been using since Winamp stopped being developed. That and I stopped using Windows years ago. Winamp was cool in the 2000s, but this is just an attempt to cash in on the name.

    2. Re:This doesn't sound good. by darkain · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Except, Winamp is ALREADY this. Winamp has an extensive plugin system. It can already play podcasts. It CREATED internet radio through Shoutcast. Other plugins are available for other data sources too... I know this, because I remember writing them and publishing them myself.

    3. Re:This doesn't sound good. by kalieaire · · Score: 3, Funny

      i'm pretty sure it still really whips the llama's ass

    4. Re:This doesn't sound good. by Tehrasha · · Score: 2

      So they didnt really 'decide' to tank it. It was just AOL being AOL. Pity AOL didnt buy Facebook back in the day....

    5. Re:This doesn't sound good. by DarkRookie2 · · Score: 2

      https://en.oxforddictionaries....
      Didn't realize that this was a former discussion

      Also, 2nd grade doesn't have classes. Just one class.
      Spelling is also not a learning topic. English is.
      Seems like you need the schooling a bit me than me AC.

      --
      http://progressquest.com/spoltog.php?name=Son+Of+Son+Of+DarkRookie
    6. Re:This doesn't sound good. by darkain · · Score: 4, Interesting

      This is why myself and a ton of the other people from the plugin community jumped ship over to foobar2000. fb2k is developed by the guy who wrote the MP3 decoder for Winamp, but had issues with the audio processing pipeline of Winamp degrading audio quality. Disputes happened. He left. Built fb2k. And the rest is history! It is by far the cleanest, lightest music player available for desktop now. Multiple tabbed playlists are awesome. My largest playlist has ~16k tracks in it, and supports pretty much real-time text searching. And yup, it supports audio codec "components" as they call them to extend it with more file support or other functionality.

    7. Re:This doesn't sound good. by Highdude702 · · Score: 2

      You're pretty much spot on with this. VLC is the next best thing. and it is really across all platforms. I loved winamp so much I downloaded every bootlegged version available. But with VLC I dont have to break the "law"

    8. Re:This doesn't sound good. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The VLC media library is an abombination, with playlist support not far behind.

      In contrast the WinAmp media library and playlist support was awesome.

      The obvious solution would be to improve the media library and playlist support in VLC to feature-match WinAmp.

    9. Re:This doesn't sound good. by darkain · · Score: 2

      "AOL", that's how it died.

  2. Re: Relevance in the market? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Anybody who wants a simple lightweight music player that just works and not a bloated "music library manager" one.

  3. Yeah by argStyopa · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...it's going to be 2.1 gig d/l, require a credit card to sign in (we will never charge you, ever!), and gather every single personal data point resident on your system.

    And still won't perform the basic function of playing mp3s as well as 2013 version.

    --
    -Styopa
  4. Foobar by RickyShade · · Score: 5, Funny

    But I have foobar2000.

  5. I miss Winamp by Toxiz · · Score: 3

    I loved winamp, and would love to get it back. I don't really have faith that this won't be a terrible cloud heavy version with the old Winamp name. But, here's hoping it's a lightweight music player that doesn't connect to the internet unless I direct it to.

    1. Re:I miss Winamp by Luckyo · · Score: 2

      Why don't you get it back? It's still readily available.

  6. XMMS fork Audacious does this (on Windows too) by Khopesh · · Score: 4, Informative

    Audacious, a descendant of XMMS (which was a clone of Winamp), works wonderfully. Its "Winamp Classic Interface" looks exactly like Winamp and even (iirc) supports Winamp skins.

    That said, I do miss the old (original) Whitecap visualization (one of the very few in which you could really see the music in what was still a visually stunning display), which only works on Winamp on Windows. (...not that Winamp's return would allow me to run this again.)

    --
    Use my userscript to add story images to Slashdot. There's no going back.
  7. Re:Relevance in the market? by Luckyo · · Score: 2, Funny

    We're all glad that this amazing truck with crane in the back works for you.

    Most people however do not need a truck with crane in the back, even if it's really convenient for you heavy mover. Most people just want a basic sedan with good mileage.

  8. "People want one single experience." by doconnor · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "People want one single experience."

    A lot of software has gone down to tubes because of this idea. People don't want one single experience. They want different experiences for different circumstances. They want software with features optimized for how they listen to music, how they listen to streaming radio and how they listen to podcasts. Combining them into one app is both unnecessary and creates undesirable side effects.

    The same thing happened with social media apps tried to be the be-all and end-all of all media, when users want to keep things nice and compartmentalized.

  9. 2.95 for the win by Bobrick · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm still using Winamp 2.95 for music, and there's nothing that needs to be updated about it. It plays music, has a playlist, volume control. There's also a "browser" which thankfully can be turned off. I suspect this new version will have even more amazing shiny new features that need to be turned off, so basically, if it ain't broke don't fix it.

  10. 'Bout time... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    As one of those people who helped build the WinAmp ecosystem and watched its subsequent AOL implosion I have to say, "Good!", and "It's about time, Radionomy." So, ya know, if you need the original sources for the 2.65-ish build... I still have them hanging around somewhere on an old CD. Justin and Tom were always messy and I was always cleaning up after them. But, by all means, I hope you improve on it somehow. I still rock out with WinAmp sometimes.

  11. Is listening to music only for the kiddies? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    Winamp is a tool. It does the job. And things like iTunes aren't really a substitute, and weirdly even on my multi-GHz system iTunes likes to spin and wait at random times.

  12. Re:Relevance in the market? by Tehrasha · · Score: 2

    The only thing that stopped me from using WinAmp was my move to Linux. I'd still be using XMMS if I could...

  13. It never left! (v 5.666) by DogDude · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Winamp never went anywhere. Unlike most modern software, it didn't require to check in over the Internet to work, so it still works just fine today. I've been happily using Winamp for a few decades, and hopefully, I'll continue to use it for the foreseeable future. The last version is version 5.666, and it was released as a final "thank you, goodbye" with *all* of the "pro" (formerly paid) features, and none of the crapware. I use it for playing all of my media, for ripping and burning CD's, and all sorts of neat stuff.

    Sometimes, software works as intended, with no problems, and simply doesn't need to be "upgraded" any more. I think this is one of those cases.

    --
    I don't respond to AC's.
  14. Re:I used to use it.. but no Linux version by CronoCloud · · Score: 2

    You don't use XMMS? Because you basically just described it.

  15. Re:Relevance in the market? by Antiocheian · · Score: 2

    It's also great when you only do things that don't go beyond playback because it's the least cluttered. The difference is that its advanced features (eg. tag editing) do not require extra tools as it was with Winamp.

  16. Re:Relevance in the market? by Antiocheian · · Score: 2

    Important power features work better when provided by the main package because it's much easier for users to support and help each other. You don't have to install them if you don't want to.

    There's no such thing as "too powerful". As long as the interface is easy to use for new users, power options is always good to have as long as the package is small. Foobar has a smaller installation package, despite all its available power and its easier to use than winamp because it uses standard operating system controls instead of tiny graphics (at least as it was the case with Winamp when I left it).

    Winamp was good in the 90s. It was awesome. But once it was sold to AOL, it was done. Foobar was last updated a week ago.

  17. Re: Relevance in the market? by thegarbz · · Score: 2

    Anybody who wants a simple lightweight music player that just works and not a bloated "music library manager" one.

    Foobar2000. Winamp is no longer relevant in a market with better options that meet all your requirements.

  18. Re:I used to use it.. but no Linux version by kbrannen · · Score: 2

    Yeah, I went on a search for the "winamp of linux" years ago. The original xmms was the answer for some years, but it was eventually replaced by xmms2 and I didn't like it. I found and still use qmmp, which I really like because it's simple, has an EQ, does everything I want, and works well with my dir structure of music, plus it has playlists. It has visualizations too, though I only ever use the default "analyzer" because I don't care about that. It will also take the winamp theme files.