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Facebook Posts May Point To Depression, Study Finds (nbcnews.com)

People's Facebook posts might predict whether they are suffering from depression, researchers reported this week. From a report: The researchers found that the words people used seemed to indicate whether they would later be diagnosed with depression. The findings offer a way to flag people who may be in need of help, but they also raise important questions about people's health privacy, the team reported in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. People who were later clinically diagnosed with depression used more "I" language, according to Johannes Eichstaedt of the University of Pennsylvania and his colleagues. They also used more words reflecting loneliness, sadness and hostility. "We observed that users who ultimately had a diagnosis of depression used more first-person singular pronouns, suggesting a preoccupation with the self," they wrote. That is an indicator of depression in some people. The team recruited 683 people who visited an emergency room for their study and asked to see their Facebook pages. Most were not depressed, but 114 had a depression diagnosis in their medical records.

81 comments

  1. Great idea for Venus expedition! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    NASA is considering a spectacular new idea for crewed exploration of Venus. This sounds like a great idea.

  2. Yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    We want Facebook to evaluate mental health, this seems like a perfectly sane thing to do

    1. Re:Yes by ole_timer · · Score: 1

      +1

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    2. Re:Yes by Locke2005 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      First clue that you have a mental health problem: you're on FaceBook.

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    3. Re:Yes by Hognoxious · · Score: 2

      I don't even use the darn thing and it depresses me. Its mere existence is enough.

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    4. Re:Yes by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

      First clue that you have a mental health problem: you're on FaceBook.

      But all of us on slashdot are just fine?

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    5. Re:Yes by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

      We want Facebook to evaluate mental health, this seems like a perfectly sane thing to do

      (...Poe's law adjustment...)

      I don't think anyone (certainly not me) wants Facebook to be an evaluator of mental health. But when someone leaves clues that point to self-destruction, whether it's at home, at school, at work, at your place of worship, at social groups, at an online forum ... it's worth it to follow up in a compassionate way. If you're wrong, then oh well. But if you're right, you just might save someone's life.

      This just might be a chance for social media to do something good. And it also might be a teaching moment for those who don't understand mental illness, to realize it is common, frequently treatable, and it need not have the stigma it has had in the past.

      Social media is already part of our public life. It's the embodiment of Marshall McLuhan's "global village" -- a place where we expose ourselves to observation, for better or for worse. We (meaning governments, citizens, etc.) need to be vigilant to protect ourselves from the "for worse" part. But we need not shun the "for better" part.

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    6. Re:Yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Final proof that you have a mental health problem: you have a Slashdot UID

  3. Duh by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 2

    Because Facebook causes depression. It's as toxic as methyl mercury

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    1. Re:Duh by Lije+Baley · · Score: 1

      Yes indeed. Aside from checking on Aunt Doris, using Facebook is like playing the lottery. A few people with the "best" lives or most sympathetic stories win, and everybody else loses.

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    2. Re:Duh by ole_timer · · Score: 1

      +1if i had them left

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    3. Re:Duh by Jeremi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      More broadly: social isolation causes depression.

      Socially isolated people often turn to Facebook to try to relieve their social isolation, but sitting alone in a room and pretending some pixels on your monitor are your friends is not a long-term viable substitute for actually spending time with people, so that mostly doesn't work.

      There's nothing unique about Facebook, one could get equally depressed by spending all one's time alone with Fortnight or Slashdot or Instagram or any other software.

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    4. Re:Duh by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Because Facebook causes depression. It's as toxic as methyl mercury

      Let's hope they never to a study of this kind on Slashdot users.

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    5. Re:Duh by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Insightful

      social isolation causes depression.

      ... and depression causes social isolation. It is hard to break the loop.

      sitting alone in a room and pretending some pixels on your monitor are your friends is not a long-term viable substitute for actually spending time with people

      Exactly. Pixels are not enough. That's why I got a RealDoll.

    6. Re: Duh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The beneficial aspects of Facebook are also found on other platforms without the negative attempts at influencing the human psyche inherent in Facebook design.

      Due to Signal, Matrix, IRC etc. falling out of favour with the masses, letâ(TM)s look at something more mainstream. Snapchat has messaging to chat between friends on multiple devices, has a system which allows potentially permanent dissemination of content and also allows for privacy controls by limiting who can add you. However, unlike Facebook it also has sensible defaults: snaps are temporary by default, messaging is designed to work like a real life conversation (as in without permanent logging) and people are encouraged by design not to deliberately curate their life. Also, unlike Twitter, people canâ(TM)t go trivially quote mining your past for potential infractions with modern social âoenormsâ (which may not have existed at the time of posting).

      Someone needs to take the UX of Snapchat, add Signalâ(TM)s double ratchet encryption layer to it, declare it permanently ad-free and then after a few years charge $10/year. Easy, sustainable, not subject to PRISM and investors get their return. If I was doing it, I would probably call it Snapchat.... (hint for existing investors, ask for this!)

    7. Re:Duh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      RealDoll

      Freak.

    8. Re:Duh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yea, I'd probably kill myself...

    9. Re:Duh by TimMD909 · · Score: 1

      Because Facebook causes depression. It's as toxic as methyl mercury

      I'll agree it's toxic, but not as bad as Methylmercury. However, I'm pedantic as fuck. I think you were thinking of dimethylmercury. Still, I'd disagree.

      Facebook has an antidote. It's free and worked well for me.

      Otherwise, I agree with what you're trying to say.

    10. Re:Duh by _merlin · · Score: 2

      You previously claimed your wife bought you the RealDoll when she was going away on a business trip, and you really didn't think you'd need it. Have you warmed up to the doll now, to the point that it helps you avoid depression? Is your wife away frequently enough now that she's not providing the companionship you need, and you're falling back on the doll as a substitute? Are you feeling distant from your wife and falling back on the doll? Does this have something to do with your daughter moving out? Curious minds want to know? (Disclosure: I have depression, and have lived away from my wife/kids for extended periods for work, but I don't have a RealDoll or similar.)

    11. Re:Duh by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      Because Facebook causes depression. It's as toxic as methyl mercury

      Let's hope they never to a study of this kind on Slashdot users.

      I think we're mainly all just slightly insane. Posting here might fend off depression in many of us.

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    12. Re:Duh by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      More broadly: social isolation causes depression.

      Socially isolated people often turn to Facebook to try to relieve their social isolation, but sitting alone in a room and pretending some pixels on your monitor are your friends is not a long-term viable substitute for actually spending time with people, so that mostly doesn't work.

      One of the things that people forget is that there is a human on the other end of the intertoobz. I see many posting here who must think that they are in some sort of text based computer game where they figuratively yell and scream at whoever they are fighting with.

      So outlet or enabler, I'm not 100 percent certain.

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    13. Re:Duh by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      Yes indeed. Aside from checking on Aunt Doris, using Facebook is like playing the lottery. A few people with the "best" lives or most sympathetic stories win, and everybody else loses.

      I only use it now for the Marketplace. I get some stuff there, and I've almost convinced the wife to let me get a rat rod.

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    14. Re:Duh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I'd probably kill myself...

      Several of us already have killed ourselves. However, it was Facebook that made us do it.

    15. Re:Duh by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      More accurately social isolation causes depression in those who have a genetic need for social interaction. For introvert computer geeks social isolation generates a ripple free brain, capable of deep thought and deep thought generates tasty, tasty, brain chemicals.

      Probably the best solution, would be to use the internet to allow the formation and hosting of group therapy sessions, a click and mortar solution. Obviously can not be done privately as it would be ruthlessly exploited (Scientology) but should be done by government and audited, the associations and the groups, not the individuals.

      Local community use of community facilities, to allow the formation and support of social interaction group therapy sessions. Universities could also participate, therapy study sessions. So using the internet to recreate person to person social interactions upon a group basis and monitored to prevent exploitation of the psychologically vulnerable. Can be done in every country except of course the United States of America, where exploitation of the psychologically vulnerable would be the number one priority both financially and sexually (you dumb fuckers are in deep shit if you do not end the rampant political corruption).

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    16. Re:Duh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually,

      Going outside
      and
      listening to what people say,
      what they mean
      causes
      debilitation
      and
      mental retardation
      enough to cause one
      to become
      more and more
      insensitive
      to the depression
      and
      end up being
      more
      socially accepted
      more
      outgoing
      more
      able to withstand
      the numbness
      of people around
      around ones self
      Until the mind resets itself, the vision becomes clear, and the utter futility of trying to explain this all to some nitwits who do not care, they just talk, whatever they hear, it's in one ear, and out the other, becomes such an agony to the self, that the only true form of expression is, going off the rails, become nuts, go crazy, lose it, bite the bulls ear, ...

      passphrase = concept

    17. Re:Duh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't be afraid of antidepressants. For real. Often you only need them for a year or two and then you can come off them and stay fine. Depression can lead to many health problems including death, and no treatment will do you any good if you are dead. I really hope you have already spoken to a psychiatrist about this.

      Respectable medicine will do much more good for you than a fake plastic woman. Incidentally, it is NOT easy to travel with a realdoll. They are bulky and heavy! They can lead to some very interesting conversations with the TSA, too.

      Likely your frequent distance from your family is not the root cause of the depression. Chronic stress is a major contributor, and so are genetics. Also, if you are TOO loyal to your family, to the point that you spend all your time with them and never go hang out with your friends, that winds up being a form of social isolation that can make it worse.

      Lastly, don't take medical advice from the Internet. See an actual doctor.

    18. Re:Duh by Lije+Baley · · Score: 1

      Dude, if you get a rat rod, and post about it on FB, YOU'RE WINNER! https://www.yourewinner.com/

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    19. Re:Duh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That particular solution doesn't work for everyone. A silicone doll very quickly becomes just another piece of furniture collecting dust. A good book is a far better substitute for friends.

    20. Re:Duh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      or Slashdot (...) or any other software.

      Now imagine being on a network where you are bullied by default, and offended systematically, for the simple fact of trying to keep your digital life Anonymous.

    21. Re:Duh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That particular solution doesn't work for everyone. A silicone doll very quickly becomes just another piece of furniture collecting dust. A good book is a far better substitute for friends.

      Or a Wilson volley ball, with two eyes and a smile painted on it.

    22. Re:Duh by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      That particular solution doesn't work for everyone. A silicone doll very quickly becomes just another piece of furniture collecting dust. A good book is a far better substitute for friends.

      Yeah, but the pages get stuck together.

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    23. Re:Duh by Jeremi · · Score: 1

      More accurately social isolation causes depression in those who have a genetic need for social interaction.

      I think everyone (outside of perhaps some autistic people) has some need for social interaction, although it's true that the desired amount can vary greatly from one person to the next.

      For introvert computer geeks social isolation generates a ripple free brain, capable of deep thought and deep thought generates tasty, tasty, brain chemicals.

      I think I fit that description to a tee -- I spend ~40 hours a week in an office by myself programming, and find that to be perfectly enjoyable and productive.

      That said, I then go on to socialize on the weekends. When I was younger, I often spent the weekends mostly alone as well, but I found that without some minimal amount of socialization I was prone to becoming depressed and/or neurotic. For me, just a few hours of socializing per week is enough, but less than that clearly isn't enough.

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  4. It IS depressing that morons still use CIAbook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't they have anything going on in their lives they don't want Schmuckerberg to sell to advertising profilers? That IS depressing.

  5. I'm too depressed to post on facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm too depressed to post on facebook.

    1. Re:I'm too depressed to post on facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      THIS !

      exactly THIS.

      no point in throwing yuor feelings into a crowd of people, most of whom won't give a damn about the why of you.

      captcha wronged

  6. Depression is of silent suffering. by jellomizer · · Score: 2

    Not too surprising, Depression is suffering, just like if you have a physical illness. Normally when someone is suffering, they want some sort of attention to it. "My Leg Hurts" or "My Left arm is numb" but when you have depression you are suffering, but not in ways that you can identify. There is pain but you can figure out why, so it may be the guy they don't like so "I hate this guy" or the fact that they want someone there "I am lonely". When one is depresses they want to State that they are in pain... However will redirect the pain to different things.

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  7. Health Privacy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In an unrelated study, people with limbs pointing the wrong way were at an increased risk of having broken bones.

    The findings offer a way to flag people who may be in need of help, but they also raise important questions about people's health privacy.

  8. First symptom by bobstreo · · Score: 1

    is logging into bookface.

    Second is checking your security settings to see if they have changed "magically" since you checked.

    Third is trying to delete the bookface app off of your non-rooted phone/tablet.

  9. Wait, you still use FB? by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    man, you're old, no wonder you're depressed

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  10. In other news water is wet by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There is a reason it's called FecesBook:

    Gee, people posting crap about their shitty lives that no one gives a fuck about. Color me surprised. /sarcasm

    If people actually *did* things with (or without) their friends instead of posting idiotic selfies maybe they wouldn't feel so lonely instead of living a meaningless life hoping to get likes. I guess they would rather whine about it instead of *doing* something. Doesn't anyone have hobbies anymore??

    Irony: And now I'm posting crap about people posting crap. DOH.

    1. Re:In other news water is wet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Doesn't anyone have hobbies anymore??

      Sure they do! The most popular hobby I see now is ... taking selfies!

    2. Re:In other news water is wet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I post about my hobbies so I am not sure where you think I fit in.

    3. Re:In other news water is wet by burningcpu · · Score: 1

      Gee, people posting crap about their shitty lives that no one gives a fuck about. Color me surprised. /sarcasm

      Slashdot posts may indicate depression as well.

      Hugs, man.

    4. Re:In other news water is wet by TimMD909 · · Score: 1

      ...

      Irony: And now I'm posting crap about people posting crap. DOH.

      I'll stop you right there. You wrote something intelligent. You actually exercised your brain to write down your thoughts. That's not what I remember from my days on Facebook. Many would just write a couple words and link to someone else's thoughts.

      We are not Facebook.

      p.s. Yeah, no one seems to have hobbies anymore. Many people seem content passively consuming mediocre content in bulk.

    5. Re:In other news water is wet by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 1

      Irony: And now I'm posting crap about people posting crap. DOH.

      You seem to be depressed. Using the *I* language, expressing a lack of purpose in your activities, yet you seem to be irresistibly drawn to continuing the very same meaningless activity. Please do consult a psychiatrist.

      I seem to be giving useless advice to strangers on slashdot. Heck, I seem to need one too.

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    6. Re:In other news water is wet by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

      Well played!

    7. Re:In other news water is wet by antdude · · Score: 1

      Are you depressed? :P

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  11. Your depressed because of Facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Facebook already proven to be causing anxiety and depression because people see others as having more exciting lives. Stop using Facebook and get out and experience real life friends.

    1. Re: Your depressed because of Facebook by lucasnate1 · · Score: 2

      Stop using Facebook and get out and experience real life friends

      I can't. Nobody is outside because they are all on Facebook.

    2. Re:Your depressed because of Facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ..but AC, that's just crazy talk! Actually interacting with live people in real-life settings? Scandalous! What insanity are you going to suggest next, having actual sex with the actual opposite gender in a real bed, instead of fapping to 3D VR porn? Going (*shocking!!!*) OUTSIDE instead of staying hidden in your house, having everything delivered to you (JUST LEAVE IT ON THE PORCH, I DON'T CARE IF I HAVE TO SIGN FOR IT!)? Social Media is clearly and objectively the way we're supposed to live out our lives, on the Internet, not in the dangerous, inconvenient, and anxiety-inducing Real World! OMFG, I get an attack of agoraphobia just thinking about it! All that open sky! ANYTHING could come crashing down on my head at any moment and kill me! A (gasp!) *person* could just walk up to me and (shocking!!!) start talking to me! What do I do then!? I can't edit what my reply is! They'd stand there and expect me to say something back to them immediately! FFS I'm getting an anxiety attack just thinking about that! Seriously, AC, extremists like you need to be medicated, you're clearly and objectively a danger to yourself and to others!

    3. Re:Your depressed because of Facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      holy crap dude youre totally right how do you ghost someone when they can see you and follow you around

  12. Yeah by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

    I got so depressed I deleted my entire FaceBook account. I feel much better now!

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  13. Um... do you have any understanding by rsilvergun · · Score: 2

    of clinical depression whatsoever? It means being depressed even when you have hobbies. The problem is that _nothing_ makes you happy. Even things that should. Even things that are going well.

    The point of studies like this is to try and tell the difference between somebody going through a rough patch like "work sucks" or "my kid wakes me up at 3am crying every morning" and "I've given up on life".

    We'd have a lot less problems in the world if we'd stop telling folks to pull themselves up by their bootstraps (a literal impossibility, the irony of which always seems lost on the folks who favor the phrase) and actually, you know, tried to solve problems.

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    1. Re:Um... do you have any understanding by Trax3001BBS · · Score: 1

      We'd have a lot less problems in the world if we'd stop telling folks to pull themselves up by their bootstraps (a literal impossibility, the irony of which always seems lost on the folks who favor the phrase) and actually, you know, tried to solve problems.

      Ativan (Lorazepam) did me a world of good long time ago.

      To be prescribed to me again is doubtful. Since the Opiate crack down it's a last result, counseling being preferred.
      This to tell folks to pull themselves up by their bootstraps.

    2. Re:Um... do you have any understanding by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

      > do you have any understanding clinical depression whatsoever?

      Gee, only ALL of my life.

      > The problem is that _nothing_ makes you happy.

      Bullshit.

      The correct phrase is: Nothing makes me happy Right Now.

      1. Depression is TEMPORARY. One day it WILL end. That right there is HOPE.

      Notice how I also said "right now." No one lives being depressed 100% of their life. We all have an innate curiosity -- especially as children. So what killed yours?? Use the "peeling an onion analysis" technique.

      * I am feeling _x_.
      * Why?
      * Because _y_ happened.
      * Why?
      * Because _z_ did that.
      * How did make you feel?
      * I felt like _w_.
      * Why?
      * etc.

      You are slowly peeling the layers off getting to the core of the issue(s).

      2. You don't overcome a problem by doing nothing. You overcome it by pushing through it -- in spite of it.

      3. *EVERYONE* has talents. The secret to life is find out what they are. You can't find out what they are if you don't try! Even if it means "just going through the motions", eventually SOMETHING will catch your interest. To use an old adage "Shit or get off the pot."

      4. "I'm bored" is a fucking excuse. EVERYTHING one does CAN be interesting -- IF one allows it. You can ALWAYS learn from every situation or experience. Boredom is A CHOICE. Start making different choices!

      Progress is impossible without change; and those who cannot change their minds cannot change anything -- George Bernard Shaw

      Anytime someone whines "I'm bored" that is an excuse for "I'm too fucking lazy to actually learn HOW to appreciate the moment for what it is."

      5. You are 99.99999% responsible for EVERYTHING that happens in you life. Yes, (almost) EVERYTHING -- regardless if is positive or negative. You chose your life BEFORE HAND -- you just haven't experienced it -- yet. The sooner one accepts this truth the sooner they can start to make (positive) CHANGES. You have the gift of Free Will. Use it to do something positive.

      But the fucking "blamethrower" away and take responsibility for your life. No one else will.

      6. Viewing everything as a "problem" shows you don't have the correct mindset. You have literally been brainwashed into the propaganda of failure.

      EVERY experience you partake is is NOT a problem but an OPPORTUNITY (to learn about yourself and/or others.)

      7. Everyone loves to bitch about how hard life is -- especially the Lie of Buddhism: Life is suffering. No, the correct understanding is:

      Life contains suffering. It ALSO contains compassion, and (unconditional) love -- funny how the POSITIVE is left out. Focusing only on the negative doesn't solve the problem.

      The reality is Western life is a total joke compared to ACTUAL war victims who have/had survived torture. Is depression hard? No one is arguing that it isn't! BUT compared to THOSE war victims we have no "justification" for excuses. I found Viktor Frankl's Man's Search for Meaning -- which changed my life -- to be a brilliant book that describes the human condition. These people had absolutely ZERO reason to stay alive but they did IN SPITE OF the external evil environment.

      These people learnt how to surrender to the moment because they knew they weren't DEFINED by the external.

      READ books that people have found to be life altering. Anyone of these are good:

      * A Man called Ove,
      * Hinds' Feet on High Places,
      * The Four Agreements,
      * The Shack

    3. Re:Um... do you have any understanding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > The correct phrase is: Nothing makes me happy Right Now.

      No, the correct phrase is "nothing makes me happy and nothing ever can, the very concept of happiness is alien to me".

      Also,
      > 2. You don't overcome a problem by doing nothing. You overcome it by pushing through it -- in spite of it.

      This fails to address the core "point" of depression, which can be crudely summarised as "why?" or "what's the point?".
      Namely that there is no point in existing, there never will be and in fact that that there never *can* be. Why would you "push through" when there's nothing on the other side?

      And you know this because when you look back on your past life, you see everything that's gone wrong, every day you remember all the failures, any supposed successes mean nothing to you, and that if you were to be sent back in time knowing what you know now, then everything would turn out either exactly the same or even worse because there is no way in which things could have gone differently.

      Depression is when the first thing through your mind when you wake up and the last thing you think of before you go to sleep are the non-stop string of failures which has been your life, and that whenever you reason through possible future steps, you always reach the same conclusion that nothing but additional failures await.

      > 1. Depression is TEMPORARY. One day it WILL end. That right there is HOPE.

      Yeah. It ends when you do. It is what you are. That is the appeal of suicide - to guarantee that there will never be any more days when you are confronted with a lifetime of mistakes whenever you shut your eyes. And before you respond with "but you'd be throwing away any chance of hapiness/recovery/whatever", remember the eternal mindset of "what happiness?" or "recovery to what?", that such things are effectively impossible and that since this "chance" is basically zero then there are only upsides and no downside to one's death.

      Ironically, the same lack of motivation which is characteristic of depression ends up getting in the way of this.

    4. Re:Um... do you have any understanding by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

      You have no idea what depression is. Because you are confusing a mental illness with a mood.

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    5. Re:Um... do you have any understanding by Heathren-bert · · Score: 1

      That is one of the biggest problems in mental health treatment, people confuse the form of depression of 'my job sucks, and I am lonely' temporary moods with 'I have not interest in the things i like to do, and feel depressed even when I'm with the people I want to be with, and don't want to get out of bed' clinical depression. The first is just a mood and will change if the job improved/get a new job, and you find people to socialize (in person) with. The second is a real illness that needs to be medically treated, no different that cancer. Telling a clinically depressed person to just get a hobby, go outside a be with people and they will feel better is the same as telling a person with cancer to think positive thoughts and drink this herbal tea and they will feel better. Mental illness is a real illness and we need to remove the stigma associated with it, like any other illness.

    6. Re:Um... do you have any understanding by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

      Exactly. There is a world of difference between feeling unpleasant and being unable to get pleasure even from things humans are physically wired to get pleasure from. The two "A"s of a depression - anhedonia and apathia - essentially make life not worth living.

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    7. Re:Um... do you have any understanding by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

      /whoosh

    8. Re: Um... do you have any understanding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ugh you can't suggest EFT and retain credibility. Cbt can have severe negative consequences if used for longer than 6mo-1yr.

      You need to watch self deception in psychopathology by peterson on youtube, to get a good sense for where traditional therapies go wrong.

      I've been through 10yrs of traditional therapy. It is vastly overstated as effective. The best cure is talking over how to reduce life complexity, speaking the truth and intellectually reconstructing oneself whilst you instictually heal. Science based therapy techniques are borderline brainwashing tools imo.

    9. Re: Um... do you have any understanding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cbt can have severe negative consequences if used for longer than 6mo-1yr.

      You're not kidding, ouch!! Ohhhh, you mean Cognitive Behavior Therapy ... coughs.

  14. Why not all? by AndyKron · · Score: 1

    "That is an indicator of depression in some people" [and could be useful for the home remedy people]. Buy St. John Wort dependably $39.95 good 1 month buy now.

  15. Re:Duh About every two weeks I meet a buddy for l by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is correct. Living it now.

  16. facebook may, by citylivin · · Score: 1

    But livejournal posts definitely do!

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    As a potential lottery winner, I totally support tax cuts for the wealthy
  17. Not entirely accurate to say that by bjdevil66 · · Score: 1

    Whether depressed people are 1) drawn to Facebook looking for an outlet for their pain, or 2) made more depressed BY the content they read on Facebook doesn't really matter. Depressed people are regularly on Facebook.

    Spotting the pattern is easy: Look at your list of Facebook friends and note who posts there the most often (on your feed or others). Then think about their personal lives (if you know any of the details they haven't already posted about), and you'll see a general pattern of unhappy people filling some hole not being filled somewhere else in their lives.

    People looking for old friend/acquaintances to reconnect with (or more). People yelling at "the other side" of --currentTrendingTopic-- - just to be heard by anyone who will listen to them. People oversharing about their personal lives - details of failing relationships, illnesses, vacation plans (with tons of pics) - just hoping someone reads them and shares the experience with them (FB likes are like heroin to these people.)

    It's true that happier people do sign up for Facebook as well. They just stop using it after they get bored of it and go back to other facets of their lives they enjoy. Most others keep coming back for another dimebag of likes and shares.

  18. Been used for ads by AHuxley · · Score: 1

    is not great.

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    Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
  19. You mean Facebook makes you depressed right? by michaelcole · · Score: 1

    Yes, I've definitely noticed I'm more depressed after using Facebook.

  20. internal feedback loop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    depression
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    caption : devils

  21. I always knew Shanghai Bill was a pedo dollfucker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Always. Ever since your first comment Bill.

  22. Just close your Facebook account by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Facebook always made me depressed, I feel so much more healthier now after closing the account earling last spring.

  23. Stop all debates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ban computers, shut down the internet. We cannot risk the mental health of our children anymore. #thetimeisnow #stoptheinternet

  24. And now the big question! by LordHighExecutioner · · Score: 1

    What is the effect of Slashdot posting on mental health ?!?

  25. Depression is different for everyone. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is apples and oranges.

    Sometimes there's people with depression who *do* feel some variants of happiness and hope; and sometimes they're so fogged and energy-less from life that they feel next to nothing about anything good or bad. Sometimes it's possible to move between these two states.

    I've had periods of experiencing both, so it's too much to generalize that all people experience depression the same way. Hell, I feel like I've had around four different stages of depression in my life at this rate, gradually getting better as I shake off the thoughts and habits that kept me in despair.

    If you're lucky, restructuring of your life to a less-depressed one takes years. If you aren't lucky, it can take a practiced effort for the rest of your life. I don't really believe in a "cure" if depression has been around since your childhood, because your plastic brain grew up in a depression-causing environment you will naturally find it very difficult to move away from that wiring once that highly neuroplastic phase of your life is over.

    Not to say all is lost, either. It really depends on your situation. Sometimes being somewhat depressed is a natural reaction to having a difficult life and may be more typical than most sufferers believe (ie. poverty, poor social integration, arrogance pushing people away, bad blood ties, financial instability, workplace stress, feeling generally unfulfilled). On the other hand, people are usually looking for a reason for life to be meaningful to them. That is such a personal and private thing that a lot of people may never find. But it is worth taking the time, whatever little of it you have, to find out what that meaning or meaningful thing is.

    Finding even a little something that is consistently meaningful may save your life.

  26. The fact that people are on Facebook by mark_reh · · Score: 1

    is a sure sign of depression. Just knowing there are so many people wasting so much time and giving up so much personal information in exchange for nothing of value depresses me.

  27. Curious by Daralantan · · Score: 1
    "used more words reflecting loneliness, sadness and hostility."

    "used more first-person singular pronouns, suggesting a preoccupation with the self,"

    "That is an indicator of depression in some people."

    Most were not depressed, but 114 had a depression diagnosis in their medical records."

    Saying people used words describing being sad and it also being on social media makes me also wonder how many of the depressed people were actually depressed... and how many just wanted to say they were depressed. I seem to recall a lot of posts on myspace and facebook back in college by people talking about being depressed to show off how deep they were. Or people joking and showing meme images about how depressed they are and laughing about it.

    Also reminds me of back in the 90's a ton of people online trying to write their dark poetry about suicide and whatnot.

    Too many people that seem to think depression is a cool thing to get attention with, rather than something serious that we should pay attention to. Not : "lol im depressed isn't that cool guyz? look at my pic of jack skelington now"

  28. Posting on Facebook assumes no privacy by SavSoul · · Score: 1

    The second premise that you lose privacy based on the words you use are nonsense. It's the same as you yelling in the town square.