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Experimental AI Lie Detector Will Help Screen EU Travelers (engadget.com)

SeriousSamy shares a report from Engadget: In the future, you might talk to an AI to cross borders in the European Union. The EU and Hungary's National Police will run a six-month pilot project, iBorderCtrl, that will help screen travelers in Hungary, Greece and Latvia. The system will have you upload photos of your passport, visa and proof of funds, and then use a webcam to answer basic questions from a personalized AI border agent. The virtual officer will use AI to detect the facial microexpressions that can reveal when someone is lying. At the border, human agents will use that info to determine what to do next -- if there are signs of lying or a photo mismatch, they'll perform a more stringent check.

102 comments

  1. Stop implementing dystopian shit, you idiots! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Do you want war? That's how you get war! Read the books to the end before you think "hey that tech sounds cool I'm going to build that".

    1. Re: Stop implementing dystopian shit, you idiots! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Also, these mental rejects are calling tuned algorithms "intelligence."

    2. Re:Stop implementing dystopian shit, you idiots! by Bobrick · · Score: 1

      Looks like someone is stuck in that old emotional worldview. You are hereby declared fit for level 3 re-education. Congratulations! Follow me or suffer a public execution.

    3. Re: Stop implementing dystopian shit, you idiots! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have always wanted to see what happens when they use it on the faces of news anchors.
      So, at least wait until they do that.

    4. Re:Stop implementing dystopian shit, you idiots! by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Do you want war? That's how you get war!

      Americans complaining about border control in the EU amounts to war? Are you high? Have you ever traveled into either the EU or into America as a non-resident? If this was leading to war then the USA would have been in a perpetual state of wa....... oh crap.

    5. Re: Stop implementing dystopian shit, you idiots! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps now itâ(TM)s good time to get back to your pill regime and talk to your psychiatrist again? It has been a while son and I worry about you a lot.

      Love you!
      Mom.

    6. Re:Stop implementing dystopian shit, you idiots! by AlwinBarni · · Score: 1

      ... a public execution.

      Do you mean "releasing to elsewhere"?

    7. Re:Stop implementing dystopian shit, you idiots! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't worry. If that "migrant caravan" they talked about in the news somewhere gets cross the US border, you'll need full interstate border checks, with full body screening and search at every single State border. Add those high powered ground radars detecting unsupervised State border crossings and on-call State force to apprehend and check the stragglers. Always carry your government accepted ID papers with you, American!

  2. Used just like a polygraph by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This works because people believe in lie detectors, so they'll give themselves away.

    1. Re:Used just like a polygraph by Immerman · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Nice theory - except that even with people that believe in them, polygraphs are about as effective as flipping a coin. I'm sure this will be much better though - more on par with rolling dice.

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    2. Re:Used just like a polygraph by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 0, Troll

      polygraphs are about as effective as flipping a coin.

      Not true. Polygraphs don't work on people trained to defeat them. They don't work on some people at all. But for most people most of the time, they work fairly well. They are far below the "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard of a criminal court, but are certainly better than "flipping a coin".

      Polygraph effectiveness is exaggerated by some. Its ineffectiveness is exaggerated by others. The truth is in the middle.

      I'm sure this will be much better though - more on par with rolling dice.

      Preliminary work based on NN observations of micro-expressions has shown it to be surprisingly effective.

    3. Re:Used just like a polygraph by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      WRONG. So so so fucking wrong. Polygraphs have absolutly zero science behind them. They detect nothing that can be claimed to be effective.

      The truth is straight out polygraphs are absolute psuedoscience crap. Go fuck off.

    4. Re:Used just like a polygraph by rtb61 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Lie detectors are a lie, fact. Lie detectors as currently deployed in the US are in fact, reaction to question detectors, whether or not you lie in response to the question is entirely arbitrary, all that counts is your response to the question, hence, lie detectors are in fact a lie.

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    5. Re: Used just like a polygraph by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      there is no "truth is in the middle" when you are dealing with someone's life in court - that's why polygraphs aren't admissible in court and are just entertainment for knuckleheads

    6. Re:Used just like a polygraph by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 0

      When used on untrained people, lie detectors have an accuracy rate of about 65%. Clearly that is not enough, in itself, to draw any serious conclusions, such as guilt or innocence. But it also is clearly better than "flipping a coin".

      Many of the "tricks" used in the past, such as the old thumb-tack-under-the-toe trick, no longer work because they now require you to remove your shoes. So if you ever have to take a polygraph test, make sure you wear clean socks. They also put sensors on your abdomen to detect clenching, another way to cheat.

      Polygraphs don't work at all on some people, but these people usually get an "inconclusive" score because they show no reaction to the control questions as well as to the real questions.

    7. Re:Used just like a polygraph by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe they should use some Russian lie detectors then.

    8. Re:Used just like a polygraph by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Are polygraphs scored by a computer that comes up with a True/False response, or are they scored by human graders who "interpret" the results? If it's the latter, then it's just dowsing/palm reading/dream interpretation crap.

  3. Well by ryshon · · Score: 1

    I, for one, welcome our new robot overlords.

  4. Great idea by king+neckbeard · · Score: 2

    Oh, a Voight-Kampff test. I can't possibly see any downsides to this...

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    1. Re:Great idea by Bobrick · · Score: 2

      What downsides? Have you seeeeen the amazing special FX?

    2. Re:Great idea by alleycat0 · · Score: 1

      In Soviet Russia, replicant Voight-Kampffs YOU!

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  5. Sample Questions by Zorro · · Score: 2

    "Let me see your identification."

    "These aren't the droids we're looking for."

    "You can go about your business."

    "Move along... move along."

    1. Re:Sample Questions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Reich-wing nazi apologist Zorro here with... SJW Star Wars memes? Ok. Carry on.

    2. Re: Sample Questions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where is the "SJW" in that comment? And how does the posting history matter?

    3. Re: Sample Questions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "And how does the posting history matter?" Lol? -Adolf Hitler

    4. Re:Sample Questions by BuffaloedBill · · Score: 2

      You’re in a desert walking along in the sand when all of the sudden you look down, and you see a tortoise, crawling toward you. You reach down, you flip the tortoise over on its back. The tortoise lays on its back, its belly baking in the hot sun, beating its legs trying to turn itself over, but it can’t, not without your help. But you’re not helping. Why is that?

    5. Re:Sample Questions by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Why is that?

      I'm just a bit of a bastard.

    6. Re:Sample Questions by infolation · · Score: 1

      I've never seen a turtle -- But I understand what you mean.

    7. Re:Sample Questions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's "all of a sudden" not "all of the sudden" you uneducated swine.

    8. Re:Sample Questions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you make up these questions, Mr. Holden?

  6. lie detectors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Every person who has taken Psychology 101 is aware that lie-detectors are useless -- I cringe when congress people call for those things to be used as they should know better -- the only benefit is if the person giving the test is watching for certain body language giveaways (it's entertaining to watch some of the people that are aware of body language signals displaying truth as they will enter into a strange feedback loop when they are asked questions)

    1. Re:lie detectors by HornWumpus · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Learn to lie with body language.

      'Tenting' your fingers during a job interview can get you more money. It's supposed to show 'true confidence and competence'.

      Lean forward whenever an interviewer is really boring the fuck out of you. It's supposed to show you are 'engaged and interested'.

      Remember there are no 'right answers' to personality assessment tests...unless you want the job. Then you want to score high on conscientiousness, openness to experience and agreeableness, low on neuroticism, right in the middle on extroversion (unless a marketer, than high on extroversion).

      Maintain an internal happy chant...'I've got a secret and you won't catch me, la la la lala, I've got a secret...'

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    2. Re: lie detectors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what happens when the interviewer is a Slashdot reader and is aware of this list when someone is trying it out?

    3. Re:lie detectors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Learn to lie with body language.

      Don't lie too much. Some of us know all about this and even if people don't, it can be very creepy for your body language to mismatch other signs. I had some friends secretly mirror me (long story) and it was so obvious. Then I had a hard time not making them do really silly stuff.

    4. Re:lie detectors by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      You are quoting the same personality traits James Damore did on the anti-diversity screed that got him fired from Google. Especially the "neurotocism" part. Are you aware of that, or...?

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    5. Re:lie detectors by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      The same test most widely accepted and used for hiring decisions in the USA?

      I'm not sure I get your point?

      Are you in favor of the scientology personality test instead? It also has 'correct' answers...which are mostly obvious, except for some reason the clams think you should memorize bus schedules when you have free second. If you see that test, best bet is to flee, there are Hubbardists in that company.

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    6. Re:lie detectors by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Don't lie too much, until you get good at it.

      Play poker for stakes high enough that bluffs are a thing. In penny ante everybody just calls all bluffs.

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      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
    7. Re: lie detectors by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      That's a very small partial list, do your own research and practice, practice practice.

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      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
    8. Re: lie detectors by Optic7 · · Score: 1

      Any particular recommendations for further reading/research?

    9. Re: lie detectors by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Resources on 'How to spot a liar' or 'poker tells' are good places to start.

      Youtube has a few.

      Also: Play poker.

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      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
    10. Re: lie detectors by Optic7 · · Score: 1

      Thanks. I meant more the part about body language for interviews, but I suppose some of it is interchangeable.

    11. Re:lie detectors by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      Tell you what, go to Google and let's see you peddle that line of filth about women being more neurotic, and see how long it takes you to be escorted to the door by security and permanently blacklisted from the industry.

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  7. Only the professional liars will get through by Arzaboa · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Nothing like being sent to secondary screening with the presumption you have done something bad. Humans don't handle part two under these circumstances any better than I believe robots will handle part 1.

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    1. Re:Only the professional liars will get through by Obfuscant · · Score: 1

      Nothing like being sent to secondary screening with the presumption you have done something bad.

      How does that differ from today?

    2. Re:Only the professional liars will get through by HornWumpus · · Score: 2

      Maybe not 'professionals'. But Lying is a skill that can be improved, like any other.

      Lie more.

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      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
    3. Re:Only the professional liars will get through by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except you suck at lying, Trumptard. You're just so stupid and jingoist you can't figure it out, you believe you ACTUALLY shit roses. Morons lol. Mueller will see you now.

    4. Re:Only the professional liars will get through by Potor · · Score: 1

      I go to secondary inspection at least once a year when entering the States (sometimes more than once, depending on the competence of the primary agent). It's never a problem for me, as my case is clear cut and things just need to be checked out. But I've heard some of the saddest things there (once I was next to a guy clearly sent to the USA to be a prostitute) and some of the funniest (a guy trying to prove that he was in fact a licensed body-guard).

    5. Re: Only the professional liars will get through by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are no screenings at all inside the EU today

    6. Re: Only the professional liars will get through by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wrong. There have been since the soros sponsored "migrants"

    7. Re: Only the professional liars will get through by Obfuscant · · Score: 1

      There are no screenings at all inside the EU today

      Then who are those nice men in the military style uniforms I talk to when I enter and leave Germany, for example? More important, the question was how being sent to secondary screening today differs from doing it based on an AI flag? Both have overtones of guilty actions.

    8. Re: Only the professional liars will get through by Kaenneth · · Score: 1

      Ah yes, the Jewish sponsored Muslim takeover of europe...

      What part of that conspiracy makes any sense?

    9. Re: Only the professional liars will get through by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah yes, the Jewish sponsored Muslim takeover of europe...

      What part of that conspiracy makes any sense?

      The Jews and the Muslims have been playing a really, really, really long con... /s

    10. Re: Only the professional liars will get through by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are no screenings at all inside the EU today

      Then who are those nice men in the military style uniforms I talk to when I enter and leave Germany, for example? More important, the question was how being sent to secondary screening today differs from doing it based on an AI flag? Both have overtones of guilty actions.

      Are you coming from/leaving to a Schengen country?

    11. Re: Only the professional liars will get through by Obfuscant · · Score: 1

      There are no screenings at all inside the EU today

      Are you coming from/leaving to a Schengen country?

      Irrelevant. The statement I replied to said there are NO screenings AT ALL inside the EU. Germany is inside the EU. There are screenings to get in. Therefore the statement I replied to is proven to be a lie.

    12. Re: Only the professional liars will get through by Cederic · · Score: 1

      What the fuck does that have to do with it?

      Right now there is screening for EU citizens moving within the EU. There is screening for non-EU citizens moving within the EU. There is screening for anybody entering the EU.

      Where the Schengen agreement allows people to skip the whole business now why would you assume it would be different in the future?

  8. "Are you carrying any narcotics?" "No." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Sorry, but you are lying. You will now be raped with this magic wand until we are satisfied that you aren't carrying drugs."

    This will be recorded for quality assurance purposes.

    1. Re:"Are you carrying any narcotics?" "No." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mmmh... while you're doing that, can I stroke my cock, look you in the eye, bite my lip real cute and beg for it harder please, daddy?

  9. A lie spoken long enough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Becomes a mental truth. Some of us can easily make up and believe our own lies. This will be pretty easily fooled. And pretty easily false flag an innocent.

  10. One step closer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    to being chipped from birth.

  11. Possible questions in 2025 by eaglesrule · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Have you committed a thoughtcrime, or expressed an opinion that would not qualify as being approved by the EU, since your last mandatory screening?

    Have you ever shared, created, or even willingly viewed an illegal meme that is not already part of your permanent criminal record?

    Have you ever attempted to avoid, tamper with, or disable, any or all monitoring systems present in any personal electronic device, public space, or area designated for personal hygiene?

    1. Re:Possible questions in 2025 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It's implemented by Hungary, which currently has a borderline fascist and anti-EU government. I suspect they'll sell it as some kind of subjective safety to protect the people from mostly imaginary threads, so they can sleep better at night knowing that the erosion of civil liberties will make it a bit harder for Mohammad to stay in a country he doesn't even want to be in to begin with.
      No surprises there. The actual EU haters should actually like this.
      The surprising part is that the EU is apparently funding this for them.

    2. Re:Possible questions in 2025 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's implemented by Hungary, which currently has a borderline fascist and anti-EU government.

      Translation for the non-leftists: it has a conservative government that believes in national sovereignty and enforcing its boards.

      Of course, to the modern unhinged left, if you're a conservative or you believe in boarder increment, you're a nazi.

    3. Re: Possible questions in 2025 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What have you been smoking?
      Hungary does not have an conservative government. They have a right wing extremist government. EU have on several occasions had alarming reports regarding the state of democracy in Hungary.
      If Hungary had applied to become a member of aEU today they wouldn't pass the democratic demands.

    4. Re: Possible questions in 2025 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Many of the current states in the EU would not be accepted into the EU, for financial or other reasons. But still, here we are, because the socialist Euro-Globalist Dream State cannot become a reality unless we play European Pokemon and catch 'em all under that wonderful blue-with-yellow-stars umbrella. Just wait until the UN Global Compact for Migration kicks in, our EU Overlords will be competing to rabidly implement every suggestion. Even if their government is authoritarian, in my book Hungary still counts as one of the few sensible ones left.

    5. Re:Possible questions in 2025 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's implemented by Hungary, which currently has a borderline fascist and anti-EU government.

      Translation for the non-leftists: it has a conservative government that believes in national sovereignty and enforcing its boards.

      Of course, to the modern unhinged left, if you're a conservative or you believe in boarder increment, you're a nazi.

      And yet right wing people in the comments here are calling this screening communistic. You would then agree they are the unhinged right?

    6. Re:Possible questions in 2025 by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      You seem to be confusing the EU for the US. It's the US border where they will steal all your stuff, copy all your personal data off your devices, check your social media accounts etc.

      EU borders have nude scanners and of course non-EU citizens will be checked. But they don't generally ask about things like political views, don't review your social media accounts etc. Things like criminal record checks are done at the visa stage, or for people who don't need a visa on the landing card, and only consider things that they were convicted of (rather than things that are illegal in the EU).

      It's not all good though, if they decide to detain you then they can really turn the screws. There are lots of things I would like to see improved. But it's nothing like you describe, and not nearly as bad as the US.

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    7. Re:Possible questions in 2025 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Drink! AmiMojo engages in blatant whataboutism like a good Russian troll!

    8. Re:Possible questions in 2025 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Translation for unaffiliated: Someone criticizes something I like, they must belong to my enemies.

      While Nazis certainly were nationalist and fascist, nationalism and fascism can occur on their own.
      Hitler was both a nationalist and fascist. He not only thought that people from his nation was superior to others and that his nation must have precedence over others. No, he also thought that those beneath them weren't even good enough to be slaves, but had to be eradicated. He hated democracy, political opposition, and used both propaganda and violence against them.
      Joseph Stalin was very fascist in the way he ruled the Soviet Union. He hated democracy, political opposition, he tried to ban religion while elevating himself to the status of a human god. And he used propaganda and violence to do so. But was he a nationalist? Nope. He thought that everyone could and should be slaving away for the Soviet Union, which was controlled by him.
      George W. Bush was on the nationalist side when he was President of the United States. He used fear as a political tool and claimed that God was on their side to push into Iraq. But was he a fascist? Not that much. He still respected democracy and what the free press was doing for democracy even though they gave him a lot of crap.

      Orban is borderline fascist and nationalist. I don't have problems with the nationalist side, because I myself think that the EU oversteps the line too often. But if you consider how the Hungarian and Polish government appear to get away with it, the oppressing force from the EU appears to be awfully overstated. It shows that those fuzzy EU ideals are not worth as much as the economic advantages that the Single Market brings. Which is not a bad thing if you hope that some reforms are possible.
      Now the to 'borderline' fascism part. To my knowledge Orban hasn't used violence to get his way like Erdogan in Turkey has for example. Hence the 'borderline', because other tricks in the book seem to be just fine, like using his money to change the media landscape in his country. The took power away from the judicial system therefore undermining the separation of power in his country. He uses his power to rewrite the constitution, which is another huge red flag. It all smells of power grab.
      And if you believe that these red flags will play out in favour for the liberties of the Hungarian population, you're pretty ignorant to history.

    9. Re:Possible questions in 2025 by eaglesrule · · Score: 1

      Oh really? Article 13 didn't pass and police raids and arrests for social media posts aren't happening on a daily basis? The London metropolitan police aren't actively trawling through social media looking for thought crime?

      Then there is this recent ruling by the EU court of 'human rights' that decided that free speech is not a right and that the “the right of others to have their religious feelings protected” will be enforced through pain of fine or imprisonment. No doubt there will be even more midnight police raids for thought crimes.

      Oh and speaking of 'justice' is Tommy Robinson back in court yet? Any more press 'gag' orders to make journalists afraid to even discuss it or face prison time themselves?

      Not nearly as bad as the US... well, at least you have that right. If we're not careful to oppose the leftist globalist would-be tyrants that have made the EU what it is now then we could suffer the same fate. We need to be remain vigilant so that the EU asylum seekers and refugees fleeing prosecution have someone to go.

    10. Re: Possible questions in 2025 by Cederic · · Score: 1

      They have a right wing extremist government.

      I've learned not to trust statements like this on Slashdot, epecially from ACs.

      On this occasion the research actually backs you up. Now I'm wondering why my mother loves Budapest so much.

    11. Re:Possible questions in 2025 by fazig · · Score: 1
      Article 13 did pass. But you should really read how the article was revised. Now it reads like this:

      1. Without prejudice to Article 3(1) and (2) of Directive 2001/29/EC, online content sharing service providers that store and provide perform an act of communication to the public. They shall therefore conclude fair and appropriate licensing agreements with right holders.

      2. Licensing agreements which are concluded by online content sharing service providers with right holders for the acts of communication referred to in paragraph 1, shall cover the liability for works uploaded by the users of such online content sharing services in line with the terms and conditions set out in the licensing agreement, provided that such users do not act for commercial purposes. [See Council’s paragraph 1, subparagraph 3 (row 238)]
      2a. Member States shall provide that where right holders do not wish to conclude licensing agreements, online content sharing service providers and right holders shall cooperate in good faith in order to ensure that unauthorised protected works or other subject matter are not available on their services. Cooperation between online content service providers and right holders shall not lead to preventing the availability of non-infringing works or other protected subject matter, including those covered by an exception or limitation to copyright.
      2b. Members States shall ensure that online content sharing service providers referred to in paragraph 1 put in place effective and expeditious complaints and redress mechanisms that are available to users in case the cooperation referred to in paragraph 2a leads to unjustified removals of their content. Any complaint filed under such mechanisms shall be processed without undue delay and be subject to human review. Right holders shall reasonably justify their decisions to avoid arbitrary dismissal of complaints. Moreover, in accordance with Directive 95/46/EC, Directive 2002/58/EC and the General Data Protection Regulation, the cooperation shall not lead to any identification of individual users nor the processing of their personal data. Member States shall also ensure that users have access to an independent body for the resolution of disputes as well as to a court or another relevant judicial authority to assert the use of an exception or limitation to copyright rules. [See Council’s Article 13(7) (row 252)

      3. As of [date of entry into force of this directive], the Commission and the Member States shall organise dialogues between stakeholders to harmonise and to define best practices and issue guidance to ensure the functioning of licensing agreements and on cooperation between online content sharing service providers and right holders for the use of their works or other subject matter within the meaning of this Directive. When defining best practices, special account shall be taken of fundamental rights, the use of exceptions and limitations as well as ensuring that the burden on SMEs remains appropriate and that automated blocking of content is avoided.

      Source: http://data.consilium.europa.e...
      But who gives a crap about what they actually approved of, right?

    12. Re:Possible questions in 2025 by eaglesrule · · Score: 1

      It's not the even the final version anyway. Plenty of chance for more closed door meetings and even more draconian bullshit to be crammed into this horrible excuse for legislation in an attempt to break the internet. Let the have-nots get used to the idea of sacrificing fair use before the full reality sets in. Let em' eat cake when it does.

    13. Re: Possible questions in 2025 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe because it's a beautiful historic European city? Questionable politicians in power won't change this over night.
      The same goes for cities like Moscow in Russia or Istanbul in Turkey. Hell, even when Hilter was in control of Germany, Austria, Poland, and Czechia, the cities of Berlin, Vienna, Warsaw, and Prague were beautiful places.

  12. Horny Wuss couldn't show competence if she tried by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    'I've got a secret and you won't catch me, la la la lala, I've got a secret...' - Trumptardism explained at length. Mueller will see you now, cowardly moronic traitor. He brought a rope.

  13. Your papers please by Archfeld · · Score: 1

    So this is probably not the best image to project to the "virtual agent" when attempting a border crossing.

    http://images5.fanpop.com/imag...

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  14. upload photos? by Skapare · · Score: 2

    it wants you to upload photos? over the internet? is that safe? what if someone fakes AI's FTP server and ends up getting those photos instead? you'd think Mr. AI, at the airport, would have a camera ... a pair of high speed ultra high definition high dynamic range ones, even.

    I wonder if it will accept Monopoly money.

    I wonder if it will accept bribes.

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    1. Re:upload photos? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't travel much do you? Plenty of countries (especially developing ones) have e-visa systems to which you have to upload your passport photo (and in some cases a copy of your passport). That might of course pose a security risk but as a world traveler I've never thought I have any choice. The most extreme case was North Korea, though, which kept my passport somewhere during my stay there and when I got it back I noticed that there was glue on it from some sticker, I guess.

    2. Re:upload photos? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      According to TFA this will be a pre-screening done well before you reach the border, from your own computer. The idea is to speed up border crossing by doing as much of the checking prior to arrival as possible, and then only a quick mostly automated re-check is needed on the ground.

      The risk will be similar to online banking or any other web site that handles sensitive information.

      If you are paranoid you can opt out and use the standard border checks. A lot of people will probably be forced to due to technical problems with their computers, low quality webcams, lighting etc. I guess it depends if the reduction in border agents results in longer or shorter queues for people not using the system. I'd guess longer, there are never enough border staff.

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  15. Re:Horny Wuss couldn't show competence if she trie by HornWumpus · · Score: 2

    You should really charge Donald rent for that space he occupies in your head. Clearly you don't have any to spare.

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  16. micro-expressions by mcswell · · Score: 1

    Can you say "Bogus"? I knew you could.

  17. It should also be good for detecting replicants! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's just your basic Voight-Kampff machine.

  18. Re:Who believes this crap? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Quite close, but note - this is not "Europe", this is the communists from EU doing it (forcing fake-refugee migrants). Fuck the EU.

  19. Virtual person by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... use a webcam to answer basic questions ...

    Remember pedophile virtual-bait, 'Sweetie'?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGmKmVvCzkw

    Time to create a virtual person on my e-tablet, that looks like me, for the customs interrogation.

  20. Re:Who believes this crap? by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

    So Europe will not take 5 seconds of it's time to vet someone coming from North Africa as an "immigrant"

    This is being implemented in Hungary, a very anti-immigrant (and racist!) country. It's clearly designed to select people with dark pigmentation as "needing additional screening"

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  21. Counter AI? by schwit1 · · Score: 1

    Somebody will create an AI using my image to answer the questions, without the indicators that I may be lying.

  22. Re:Who believes this crap? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow. Do you also believe Goldman Sachs are communists?

  23. Will be fun for people who are illegal by AHuxley · · Score: 1

    With their "created" fake documents.
    With shared documents.
    Using another persons story to create documents to travel with.
    People who have supported banned groups.
    Who have applied for "protection" many times under different names and with different "stories" each time.
    Criminals trying to gain a new clean ID as a person with another ID?

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    1. Re:Will be fun for people who are illegal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People cannot be illegal. They're people.

  24. Freedom of Movement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, that happened. Look quickly, before it goes away again! You need to be an AI at this point to get a glimpse of the idea. At least they don't shoot you at border anymore. At least not very often.

    1. Re:Freedom of Movement by Cederic · · Score: 1

      How will this reduce freedom of movement?

      Current situation: Uniformed official asks you questions, validates that it's legitimate for you to enter the country.
      Future situation: Computer program asks you questions, validates that it's legitimate for you to enter the country. If it can't provide validation then it hands off to a uniformed official who asks you questions and validates that it's legitimate for you to enter the country.

      Wait? The future state is cheaper for the Government to operate and yet offers twice the chances for you to successfully enter the country? Yeah, really fucking hurting freedom of movement there.

    2. Re:Freedom of Movement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe this system is actually aimed to deal with the non-EU citizens and transports outside from the EU borders. Or that those border checks have been reinstated due to the flow of migrants and refugees cross the EU. See, it's the fault of the migrants again, stealing our freedomz!

  25. Re:Who believes this crap? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Goldman Sachs are the Rothschild's, so they support communism.

  26. Re:Who believes this crap? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Magiares are not racist.
    They do not like the new socialist-communist European Union.
    They like Nation States of Europe.

  27. Language problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And what language will, the AI bot talk? And will it understand what and how it was answered?

    Even google translate gives lots and lots of gibberish. Try translate something in some regional talk, not straight English but welsh. Or German but in Bavarian or Frisian languages?

  28. Won't work by nospam007 · · Score: 1

    You'll catch cheaters but the sociopaths and psychopaths will beat this easily and those are the ones that you need to catch.

    1. Re:Won't work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      An automated system taking care of low-hanging fruit is a good idea. Real people gets more time to handle the harder cases.

  29. Lie To A Robot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Will there be a trapdoor under your feet too?

  30. Skilled liars ... by Martin+S. · · Score: 1

    Skilled liars engage in an excess of trust building behaviour in expressions of speech and nonverbal communication. These convince most people but not those trained as human lie detectors.

    Voice stress analysis is applied extensively by UK insurance companies for claims management and used to focus anti-fraud investigations.

  31. Perhaps just as immigrations at the US borders by ruddk · · Score: 1

    Every time I go through US immigration border control, I wish we had something similar instead here in the EU instead of just waving everyone through. (There's some "nice" stories about certain flight routes from African countries where there are virtually no check)

    Look at the ESTA form that is part of the US Visa Waiver program. They even want a list of all your social media accounts. Last time I applied, it was still optional, but I bet it is only a matter of time. Of course there is a worry what they think of people who doesn't use Facebook or Twitter.

  32. Doesn't work on psychopaths by blind+biker · · Score: 1

    This, like all other methods based on behavioural observations and physiological reactions, will NOT work on psychopaths, which is arguably the demographic you should worry the most about. Psychopaths don't reflect their emotional state on their behaviour or on their body reactions. They don't sweat, their heart rate doesn't increase, when confronted with their lies, or while lying - even if they're lying their ass off.

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