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Experimental AI Lie Detector Will Help Screen EU Travelers (engadget.com)
SeriousSamy shares a report from Engadget: In the future, you might talk to an AI to cross borders in the European Union. The EU and Hungary's National Police will run a six-month pilot project, iBorderCtrl, that will help screen travelers in Hungary, Greece and Latvia. The system will have you upload photos of your passport, visa and proof of funds, and then use a webcam to answer basic questions from a personalized AI border agent. The virtual officer will use AI to detect the facial microexpressions that can reveal when someone is lying. At the border, human agents will use that info to determine what to do next -- if there are signs of lying or a photo mismatch, they'll perform a more stringent check.
Do you want war? That's how you get war! Read the books to the end before you think "hey that tech sounds cool I'm going to build that".
I, for one, welcome our new robot overlords.
Oh, a Voight-Kampff test. I can't possibly see any downsides to this...
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Every person who has taken Psychology 101 is aware that lie-detectors are useless -- I cringe when congress people call for those things to be used as they should know better -- the only benefit is if the person giving the test is watching for certain body language giveaways (it's entertaining to watch some of the people that are aware of body language signals displaying truth as they will enter into a strange feedback loop when they are asked questions)
Nothing like being sent to secondary screening with the presumption you have done something bad. Humans don't handle part two under these circumstances any better than I believe robots will handle part 1.
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Have you committed a thoughtcrime, or expressed an opinion that would not qualify as being approved by the EU, since your last mandatory screening?
Have you ever shared, created, or even willingly viewed an illegal meme that is not already part of your permanent criminal record?
Have you ever attempted to avoid, tamper with, or disable, any or all monitoring systems present in any personal electronic device, public space, or area designated for personal hygiene?
So this is probably not the best image to project to the "virtual agent" when attempting a border crossing.
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errr....umm...*whooosh* *whoosh* Is this thing on ?
it wants you to upload photos? over the internet? is that safe? what if someone fakes AI's FTP server and ends up getting those photos instead? you'd think Mr. AI, at the airport, would have a camera ... a pair of high speed ultra high definition high dynamic range ones, even.
I wonder if it will accept Monopoly money.
I wonder if it will accept bribes.
now we need to go OSS in diesel cars
You should really charge Donald rent for that space he occupies in your head. Clearly you don't have any to spare.
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Nice theory - except that even with people that believe in them, polygraphs are about as effective as flipping a coin. I'm sure this will be much better though - more on par with rolling dice.
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WRONG. So so so fucking wrong. Polygraphs have absolutly zero science behind them. They detect nothing that can be claimed to be effective.
The truth is straight out polygraphs are absolute psuedoscience crap. Go fuck off.
Lie detectors are a lie, fact. Lie detectors as currently deployed in the US are in fact, reaction to question detectors, whether or not you lie in response to the question is entirely arbitrary, all that counts is your response to the question, hence, lie detectors are in fact a lie.
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This is being implemented in Hungary, a very anti-immigrant (and racist!) country. It's clearly designed to select people with dark pigmentation as "needing additional screening"
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Somebody will create an AI using my image to answer the questions, without the indicators that I may be lying.
With their "created" fake documents.
With shared documents.
Using another persons story to create documents to travel with.
People who have supported banned groups.
Who have applied for "protection" many times under different names and with different "stories" each time.
Criminals trying to gain a new clean ID as a person with another ID?
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
Are polygraphs scored by a computer that comes up with a True/False response, or are they scored by human graders who "interpret" the results? If it's the latter, then it's just dowsing/palm reading/dream interpretation crap.
You'll catch cheaters but the sociopaths and psychopaths will beat this easily and those are the ones that you need to catch.
Skilled liars engage in an excess of trust building behaviour in expressions of speech and nonverbal communication. These convince most people but not those trained as human lie detectors.
Voice stress analysis is applied extensively by UK insurance companies for claims management and used to focus anti-fraud investigations.
Every time I go through US immigration border control, I wish we had something similar instead here in the EU instead of just waving everyone through. (There's some "nice" stories about certain flight routes from African countries where there are virtually no check)
Look at the ESTA form that is part of the US Visa Waiver program. They even want a list of all your social media accounts. Last time I applied, it was still optional, but I bet it is only a matter of time. Of course there is a worry what they think of people who doesn't use Facebook or Twitter.
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This, like all other methods based on behavioural observations and physiological reactions, will NOT work on psychopaths, which is arguably the demographic you should worry the most about. Psychopaths don't reflect their emotional state on their behaviour or on their body reactions. They don't sweat, their heart rate doesn't increase, when confronted with their lies, or while lying - even if they're lying their ass off.
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How will this reduce freedom of movement?
Current situation: Uniformed official asks you questions, validates that it's legitimate for you to enter the country.
Future situation: Computer program asks you questions, validates that it's legitimate for you to enter the country. If it can't provide validation then it hands off to a uniformed official who asks you questions and validates that it's legitimate for you to enter the country.
Wait? The future state is cheaper for the Government to operate and yet offers twice the chances for you to successfully enter the country? Yeah, really fucking hurting freedom of movement there.