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CIA Vault7 Leaker To Be Charged For Leaking More Classified Data While in Prison (zdnet.com)

US prosecutors are preparing new charges against a former CIA coder who was indicted earlier this year in June for leaking classified CIA material to WikiLeaks, in what later become known as the Vault7 leaks. From a report: According to new court documents filed late Wednesday, October 31, US prosecutors plan to file three new charges against Joshua Schulte for allegedly leaking more classified data while in detention at the New York Metropolitan Correctional Center (MCC). Prosecutors say they first learned of Schulte's behavior back in May, when they found out that "Schulte had distributed the Protected Search Warrant Materials to his family members for purposes of dissemination to other third parties, including members of the media." The prosecution held a court hearing in May and initially warned the suspect about his actions, a warning they found Schulte ignored. The US government says that "in or about early October 2018, the Government learned that Schulte was using one or more smuggled contraband cellphones to communicate clandestinely with third parties outside of the MCC." A search of his housing unit performed by FBI agents revealed "multiple contraband cellphones (including at least one cellphone used by Schulte that is protected with significant encryption); approximately 13 email and social media accounts (including encrypted email accounts); and other electronic devices."

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  1. All Right by Mikkeles · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Good for him!

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    1. Re:All Right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Back to your handlers Ivan.

    2. Re:All Right by barakn · · Score: 1

      "Back to your handlers Ivan," says an Anonymous Coward to a user that has been on /. since 2003. No comma was placed after "handlers," a grammatical nuance a native English speaker would be more likely to add.

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    3. Re:All Right by Areyoukiddingme · · Score: 1

      No comma was placed after "handlers," a grammatical nuance a native English speaker would be more likely to add.

      Not anymore. Modern English teaching says to omit most commas traditionally used, especially for prepositional phrases in prefix and suffix positions and for objects of command sentences like that one.

    4. Re:All Right by Nehmo · · Score: 1

      It's a comma before a direct address. It shows the difference between talking to someone and about someone.
      * You certainly know, Ivan, we are familiar with your handlers.
      Without the pre-address comma, the sentence would be ambiguous.

      The sentence at issue is also difficult to understand because it is elliptical in that the verb "go" is left out.
      *Go back to your handlers, Ivan.

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  2. Dumb, or dumber? by Entrope · · Score: 1

    I guess he never heard the advice that if you find yourself in a hole, the first thing to do is stop digging.

    1. Re:Dumb, or dumber? by mlyle · · Score: 1

      I have some degree of sympathy--- the whole concept of being subject to secret criminal prosecution is scary and unfortunate. (A problem I don't know how to handle: when people break the rules about classified things, classified information is likely needed to prove and contextualize it. At the same time, denying people a portion of the normal due process of law and throwing them in jail is a disturbing result).

    2. Re:Dumb, or dumber? by owlaf · · Score: 2

      Easily dumber or even dumbest. He is someone that worked for them, not some terrorist they might try to track, so he basically knows he will get caught.

    3. Re:Dumb, or dumber? by sjames · · Score: 1

      Once it's clear you're not going to return from the mission, you might as well do maximum damage.

    4. Re:Dumb, or dumber? by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

      One doesn't need to get rid of all government. Just of bad government. Plenty of countries that keep to themselves, don't involve themselves in wars that aren't their business, but still have functioning governments and are doing decently well. The need for secrecy comes from the constant meddling of the US into world affairs.

    5. Re:Dumb, or dumber? by Kaenneth · · Score: 1

      There are levels of prison, some don't even have fences.

      https://www.forbes.com/2006/04...

      This guy is gonna find out how deep the hole goes tho.

    6. Re:Dumb, or dumber? by onepoint · · Score: 1

      and since he wasn't accused of treason, he felt safe to try ( which he did )
      now he might have opened that. fed courts title 18 ( I think it's constitutional law article 3 ) is death or another 5 years

      it happened in NY and I don't think NY or NJ have treason laws. I know ( or knew )
      that Illinois and Rhode Island have them but not sure of anywhere else.

      NY has this as a reference but I can't find the place where you can be convicted of treason in the state
      https://www.dos.ny.gov/info/co...

      good luck and a valid point you presented

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    7. Re:Dumb, or dumber? by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      I highly doubt hes in a minimum security facility.. just sayin.

  3. Hero by shaitand · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Hopefully some soviets will do the same. May all those complicit in domestic spying and surveillance get what is coming to them while this man lives to see freedom and the rewards he rightly deserves for remaining loyal to The People of the United States of America.

    1. Re:Hero by shaitand · · Score: 1, Funny

      What does any of it have to do with Trump?

    2. Re:Hero by dj245 · · Score: 1

      I don't believe any organization could properly function if every single person imposed their personal morality onto it. Just look at all the boycotts / protests at Google. I'm sure that for every revenue stream Google has, there is a subset of employees who don't think it is moral/ethical.

      The problem is where the line should be drawn. And the tricky bit is that it is a very complicated and nuanced line, and nobody is or can be responsible for drawing it clearly.

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    3. Re:Hero by Vintermann · · Score: 1

      The soviet union gave up the ghost nearly 30 years ago, comrade.

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    4. Re:Hero by shaitand · · Score: 1

      "I don't believe any organization could properly function if every single person imposed their personal morality onto it."

      We aren't talking about personal morality, we are talking about government agencies violating the law which governs them and hiding it behind a classified status. The highest ranking entity in the US isn't any of the three branches empowered by the Constitution or their agencies it is The People. Every employee and official of government has a duty and an obligation to the people that preempts the power of government.

    5. Re:Hero by shaitand · · Score: 1

      Yeah... right. Same wolf, different wool.

    6. Re:Hero by ArchieBunker · · Score: 2

      People are still so butt hurt over Trump winning that you can't visit a single forum without seeing him mentioned. Unless of course the forum is heavily moderated.

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    7. Re:Hero by Kaenneth · · Score: 1

      Why are you replying to your other account?

    8. Re:Hero by Narcocide · · Score: 1

      No, but they all became greedy as fuck.

    9. Re:Hero by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      !!!

    10. Re:Hero by Nehmo · · Score: 1

      And all the communists miraculously became good capitalists over night right?

      They weren't really communists in the first place.

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    11. Re: Hero by Jahoda · · Score: 1

      Yes. Loyal to the United States by disseminating its internal intelligence to a GRU instrument. Go the fuck away with your concern trolling Ivan. You lost. Get over it.

  4. "Coder" by stevegee58 · · Score: 1

    God I hate that word.

    "Look everyone! I made my first web page! I'm a coder now!"

    1. Re:"Coder" by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 2

      I have a spy ring from a cereal box, does that make me a coder or an encryption expert? Serious question, I need to pad my CV...

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    2. Re:"Coder" by Nehmo · · Score: 1

      Cereal box spy ring? I know I'm old but not that old. When was the last CBSR distributed?

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    3. Re:"Coder" by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 1

      Well played!

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    4. Re:"Coder" by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 1

      Last I recall was in the late 70s, but this is in Australia and we tend to lag a bit.

      Now I feel old too...

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  5. Wow! by Highdude702 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This dude is a beast. I've been to prison. It's hard to get one phone in let alone multiple with good encryption. He is not working alone and whoever he's working with has skills.

    1. Re:Wow! by nospam007 · · Score: 1

      "This dude is a beast. I've been to prison. It's hard to get one phone in let alone multiple with good encryption."

      It's hard to cram an iphone8Plus up the ass.

    2. Re:Wow! by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      LOL, I mean I'm sure there are a few lifers that would have no problem... For real though depending on w ho you associate with you may HAVE TO kiester some shit.. No pun intended O.o Like the South Siders, its mandatory for them to shove things in their ass if they get sentenced to hole time for something to smuggle it in the units. Things like phones however come in through the guards, or in minimum security you will literally have inmates break out(walk off the line) and pickup packages they have people leave.

  6. Strange by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So someone who literally has access to the CIAs treasure trove of exploits (vault7) somehow manages to not be able to cover his tracks with child porn? This smells of planted evidence either to obtain information already known but procured in a non admissible way or to do a character assassination. Don't get me wrong, its not that I don't believe someone in the CIA looks at kiddie porn. Its just that I don't believe they'd be so easily caught for it when idiots who know very little about computers hide this stuff.

  7. Cell Phones in prison by mirthful1 · · Score: 1

    Apparently it's not a crazy rare occurrence for a prisoner (Schulte) to have not one but two contraband cell phones ("and other electronic devices") that the prisoner can gab with the outside world with. One has to have a certain amount of respect for that amount of hutzpah and tenacity to accomplish that.

    1. Re:Cell Phones in prison by PPH · · Score: 1

      Why don't we have something like a Stingray or micro cell site that can be installed in prisons? Whitelist authorized staff cellphones and pass their calls through. Block or raise an alarm for all other devices operating inside the prison.

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    2. Re:Cell Phones in prison by Kaenneth · · Score: 2
    3. Re:Cell Phones in prison by PPH · · Score: 1

      please explain how

      I don't know the details. But the cops use them at a couple of strip clubs in Seattle. And they can 'tune' them to select phones on the premises and not people driving by.

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  8. You just can't stop the Schulte! by elrous0 · · Score: 1

    That boy is a leakin' fool. Hell, he'll climb a tree to leak when he could just stand on the ground and not leak. Yes sir, ain't no stoppin' him. He'll be leakin' till the day he dies, I reckon. And then he'll probably leak some more in heaven!

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  9. Re:Treason by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    I agree.

    I just think we have different opinions about the head in question.

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  10. What US citizens have to do to honor the founders by 3seas · · Score: 1

    There is a point where US Citizens are supposed to know what their business of government is doing, for it is the peoples business as the founders established.

  11. Re:Traitors should be shot by firing squad by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 2

    One man's hero is another man's traitor. Guess where the highest concentration of smart TVs and iDevices is? Right here in the US. Anyone care to bet that the CIA wouldn't use this stuff for domestic spying, outside of their mandate and outside the law?

    This kind of thing needs to be exposed and brought to light, just like MK-ULTRA and COINTELPRO needed to be outed in the 1970s. The leaker's main mistake was not going to a non-extradition country before starting to sing like a canary.

  12. Re:Treason by ArchieBunker · · Score: 1

    A charge of treason means we have to be actively at war with the country he helped aid. But nah you can't be bothered to actually do some reading.

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  13. Re:Traitors should be shot by firing squad by onepoint · · Score: 1

    Sadly you are correct, but along with the bad, good can happen. Many publicly noted changes have happened in the NSA, FBI and CIA and other government branches. This guy caused change, and that was fine, but now he wants revenge, and this requires a new change in the position of his imprisonment. while he can no longer be sent to an off-site, he can be placed in full confinement for 23 hrs a day for the rest of his charges.

    We should have learned from the election that good and bad things happen. sadly the bad might have eroded all the good he might have done.

    I vote for 23 hr. solitary confinement for his entire stay in the prison system
    or
    a manual prison where there are no electronics ( just books ). except for the PA system.

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  14. Re:Traitors should be shot by firing squad by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 2

    How do you know what the fuck his motives are? Also: how very American of you to call for cruel and inhumane punishment.

  15. The difference between treason and whistleblowing by sabbede · · Score: 1
    Snowden blew a whistle, revealing a massive and illegal surveillance operation, helping the American people. This jackoff released CIA tools to the world, hurting everyone except America's enemies and any black hat looking to round out their arsenal.

    There's nothing wrong with the CIA having powerful tools. It is to the benefit of the nation if they do. Releasing them was an act of treason, plain and simple.

  16. Re:Traitors should be shot by firing squad by onepoint · · Score: 1

    I don't have to, disclosure and breaking the rules have been done, he kept disclosing.

    the first time, he was given simple punishment.
    the second time, if he is found guilty as a traitor, his information should prove some value, therefore
    if he wants some freedom, he will have to cough up everything he knows. otherwise, it's a very long and slow time for him.

    and the crime is treason, the highest crime in a nation, can't do much worse than that. murder is an offense to the state government, treason is to the nation.

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  17. Double Secret by marcel_in_ca · · Score: 1

    So the classified materials he leaked were: "Protected Search Warrant Materials". If i understand correctly, the entirety of his search warrant was secret. And, he's being charged with leaking, so the "secrets" are already out there. So, it's secret because it's *not* secret. This smells rather "Catch-22" to me.