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Samsung Will Put Notches On Its Future Phones (theverge.com)
Samsung is one of the biggest smartphone makers to hold off on releasing smartphones with display notches. But at the company's developer conference today, Samsung confirmed that it's soon going to join in on the trend. "A slide during the keynote showed several notch designs that are almost certainly coming to Samsung-branded devices in 2019 and beyond," reports The Verge. From the report: Hassan Anjum, a director of product marketing at Samsung, took the stage to highlight Samsung's previous breakthroughs in reducing bezels and maximizing display size year after year. "We're going to keep going. The bezels are going to shrink even further," Anjum said. "We're going to push the limits with our new lineup: the Infinity U, V, and O displays. These are new concepts that are just around the corner, and I can't wait to tell you more about them."
Infinity U: This basically looks identical to the Essential Phone's notch design. It's a small half oval that cuts down into the top middle of the display.
Infinity V: Similar to Infinity U, but with four edges instead of a curved half-oval.
Infinity O: This is a full circular cutout of the display and not so much a "notch" the top edge of the screen. Still, it seems like an eyesore and it's hard to imagine reaction to this being very positive. What's gained by that little area of display above it? Asus seems to be exploring a similar idea for its ZenFone 6, and feedback has been overwhelmingly bad.
New Infinity: This looks to be a completely notchless display. Anjum didn't discuss this one onstage, and the technology isn't quite there to allow for this design just yet. That said, Samsung could be exploring the idea of a slider phone that would house the selfie camera and other components somewhere outside their usual location.
Infinity U: This basically looks identical to the Essential Phone's notch design. It's a small half oval that cuts down into the top middle of the display.
Infinity V: Similar to Infinity U, but with four edges instead of a curved half-oval.
Infinity O: This is a full circular cutout of the display and not so much a "notch" the top edge of the screen. Still, it seems like an eyesore and it's hard to imagine reaction to this being very positive. What's gained by that little area of display above it? Asus seems to be exploring a similar idea for its ZenFone 6, and feedback has been overwhelmingly bad.
New Infinity: This looks to be a completely notchless display. Anjum didn't discuss this one onstage, and the technology isn't quite there to allow for this design just yet. That said, Samsung could be exploring the idea of a slider phone that would house the selfie camera and other components somewhere outside their usual location.
Between Samsung's incoming notches, and Google's inability to make a decent Pixel phone it looks like I won't be upgrading my cellphone for the next 2 years at least...
I have a nearly bezeless phone and it's a major pain. I'm constantly clicking things with the palm of my hand, especially youtube video links.
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So because we want to eliminate the bezel (why, I have to hold the damned thing), and because we want it thinner (again, why, I'm only going to put it into an Otterbox case anyway), we're going to move the camera behind the screen (you know, the useful bits) and carve a little notch out of the display.
Tell you what, give me a bezel so my fat hands can hold it, make it thicker so I don't need to worry about breaking it and so it has better battery life, take that stupid notch out, and stop sacrificing screen space so you can make it a fraction of a mm thinner.
We get way too much fucking press coverage about phone notches, when phone notches are just a terrible design compromise so that all of the stupid design choices can be made to seem to suck less.
What next, monitors with notches for built in web cams??
Why?? Why are we cutting fucking notches in the display??? This is stupid, and just a sign of bad design.
I just don't get this, we don't notch doors or anything else, but somehow the shitheads who make phones seem to think the notch is the biggest innovation in design ever?
Sorry, the notch is a sign of incompetence, and sacrificing the wrong thing to put emphasis on other wrong things.
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Can we get a few more Samsung stories in the front page please?
WTF is so f***ing awesome about the notch? Can someone explain it to me, because I don't get why.
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Samsung.....I thought you were cool.....The notch is so so stupid. For crying out loud you made a commercial making fun of the notch.
"Notch designs"
First the headphone jack, now the notch...
Making a waterproof version of the Vivo Nex cam shouldn't be too hard.
Face identification camera can be put under the screen, detect head with low quality shot through OLED screen, pulse an IR LED to get a low noise shot ... the face ID won't care about a bit of screen dooring from the OLED pixels.
therefore I would not consider buying one, anyway. My old Samsung Note 2 still runs like on its first day, thanks to it now using the 3rd set of cheap, 3rd-party, user replaceable battery and a fine installation of Lineage OS.
There was a time when cup holders in cars was the best innovation car makers could come up with. I think cell phones are there now.
1. The S10, which will be at least 3 models (S10, S10+, S10 Note) starting in February will not have a notch. We already have pics of it. 2. Samsung has just spent a year making fun of Apple's notch in countless commercials featuring people with notches on their foreheads. It would be a step backwards.
How about a moderation of -1 pedantic.
At the rate at which phones are decreasing in volume and increasing in touch input surface area by 2020 phones will be 99% touchscreens! I'm looking forward to purchasing my next pocket computer that needs a special holder (sold separately!) just to hold it without accidentally calling someone or buying some random app! You know how photographers "frame" an area using their fingers before taking a photo? Yeah, that's how you'll have to hold your phone and then you use your nose to click.
The future is going to be super rad! ;)
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The notch is one of the worst changes to happen to mobile phones in the last few years. I think the majority of people would rather just have a slight bezel at the top. There's nothing wrong with the appearance of the Galaxy S9.
Samsung will copy Apple...again and again and again.
No, cell phone makers have gone Stark raving INSANE!!!
At least the cup holder is useful, cell phone makers are removing useful features, and handicapping others. (Removal of headphone jack, cutting into the screen)
(Yes the Stark was capitalized on purpose and was meant as a Marvel joke)
Microsoft, Apple, Google, Amazon what's the difference? All steal money from devs and control with walled gardens.
Why can't people just use the regular camera for selfies?
Because there's no display on the back? Put one there!
Why are these people so self centered that they need to take their own pictures? Get a friend to help if it's that important. Get social!
Samsung will begin reselling Apple iPhones, rebranded as Samsung phones.
Don't be an idiot, cup holders are very useful. Notches are just annoying!
We're doing five notches!
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Next: There goes the Headphone Jack!
Mwuhahahahahahaaaaa!
Right in the middle of the screen. Images could be made to warp around it.
Much cooler than a mere notch.
Take that Apple!
I need to find a Chinese phone that will work with the U.S. T-Mobile network. Any suggestions?
Not really sure why smartphone vendors feel they need to take it upon themselves to dream up innovative new ways to poke, annoy and piss off their customers while at the same time raising prices to ridiculous new heights and failing in spectacular manner to deliver compelling new value.
Not really surprising nobody's upgrading anymore given industry behavior.
I'll upgrade tomorrow if any vendor can deliver the following.
1. Removable battery ... LF-UHF preferred
2. Physical keyboard (e.g. BB KEY2)
3. Not ridiculously thin
4. Not ridiculously large
5. No infinity edge
6. No notches
7. No headphone "courage"
8. No AMOLED (IPS please)
9. No (front) cameras
10. No biometric unlock
11. No locked bootloaders
12. SD Card
13. Configurable RGB indicator light for notification
14. IR transmitter
15. Real GPS
16. SDR AM/FM
So we will too.
They continue to break the relationship. I am one phone swapped to another vendor, and the other is on the way out. They obviously no longer build phones for me anymore.
Title should read "Samsung will copy everyone else, as usual, all phones MUST be identical, follow the fads, Apple is always right!"
Give Apple, surprisingly some credit though, they in turn haven't stupidly copied this awful terrible, stupid curved display fad.
craptastic OSes, that always keep status icons on the top are the reason.
Such status bars eats the first top couple of lines with something that you seldom need. (see Palm/HP's webOS for something that can even eat more screen estate).
Logical answer that any sane dev would do : let's make the status not constantly display (e.g.: Jolla's Sailfish OS, all native apps are 100% full screen, but you can still use the "peek" gesture to have a quick look at status, on the occasion you actually need it).
Apple's counter intuitive crappy solution : lets extend the display a bit around the speaker and selfie cam, thus we could still display status icon, while apps can get what would have been previous gen's full screen. Enter the notch with its own ton of crappy problems. (like weird unusual screen shape, devs trying to extend their apps into the notch and hack around it's weird shape, problem fitting all icons within the tiny notch when you have activated simultaneously every single last function, etc.)
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I need to replace my old phone, but I am stuck,
as the new phones have the hardware specs I need, but a terrible design from a usability perspective,
while the older phones have a more practical design, but lack the hardware specs.
I am so frustrated.
I don't like bezel-less displays. I need some space at the border.
I don't like the notch, that is just silly.
I need lots of ram and storage space (plus SD-card),
and very importantly a very good battery, and a solid design that does not break immediately on the first drop.
Still looking.
what will they think of next
Interesting, but I will still stick to my current smartphone samsung j1 2016 as long as its working lol. BTW. bought it from iprice.
What do you think about Nokia 8? looks like an older phone but with Snapdragon 835. Even 5 gbps USB instead of just USB 2, so if that works that might be useful (e.g., copy 100GB out of the phone. But sometimes you might be using a cheap USB 2.0 USB-C cable or USB-C to USB-A)
Bezels on sides look very very thin, so if you don't like that I think you need a silicone case pretty much.
I guess someone at The Verge was also waiting for a worthwhile update to the Mac mini, a thread started on 2013-12-07 that is 590 pages long, 14736 posts as I'm writing this.
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Why do they have a story about a new series of phones without posting a single picture of them? All we get is "Oh, the first one looks like this other design, and these others are similar to the first one."
Fuck off, The Verge.
Notches solve nothing!
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