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Has the Love Affair With Driving Gotten Stuck in Traffic? (washingtonpost.com)

America's love affair with the automobile and those dreams of roaring off on open highways are on the wane as the nation grapples with too much stop-and-go traffic and too many hours spent behind the steering wheel. From a report: Those findings are contained in a report to be released Thursday by Arity, a technology research spinoff created two years ago by Allstate Insurance. Arity underscored the growing disillusionment by using an illustration: Americans, on average, spend more time in their cars -- mostly driving to and from work -- than they receive in vacation time. Arity researchers said most people average 321 hours in the car each year and get 120 hours of vacation [Editor's note: the link may be paywalled; an alternative source was not immediately available.]. "To me, that really crystallizes the issue," said Lisa Jillson, who leads Arity's research and design department. "I get a certain amount of vacation time, and I spend almost three times that in my car just getting back and forth to a job."

Her research showed a notable difference between millennials and baby boomers. Unhappiness with driving becomes more pronounced, with 59 percent of millennials saying they'd "rather spend time doing more productive tasks than driving," while only 45 percent of baby boomers make that same statement.

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  1. Re:Work close to where you live as a priority by MightyYar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Easy to say when single.

    When I was a bachelor, I would rent within walking distance of my employer, even though it was in the suburbs and it involved me cutting through some business parks. Then I got married and my wife got a job. Then my employer moved. Then we had kids and had to think about school districts. We moved to a place that is a 5 mile commute (in heavy traffic) for her and a 10 mile commute for me (in light to moderate traffic) with a decent school system. But either of us could get fired tomorrow and our commute could change, and we wouldn't be able to move without uprooting our kids and selling our home.

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  2. Public transportation does save time by DogDude · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sadly, as good as public transport can be for a lot of reasons, it's not much fun either and in many cases won't save you any time.

    I can't do anything else while I'm driving. I can do all sorts of stuff (work, relax, etc.) while on public transit.

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    1. Re:Public transportation does save time by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Even here in the Netherlands, with a very dense and well managed public transport network versus congested roads, commuting by car is still faster than public transport in many cases, and a lot of people prefer to spend less time commuting over taking longer but being able to work or read. Public transport is great when you have an efficient single leg journey with a short-ish distance to walk or cycle at either end. But it starts to suck hard once you have to change lines: the chance of missing your connection adds stress to the journey. Even worse when you're on a crowded train: good luck working, relaxing or even just reading a book in that case.

      There's a psychological aspect to it as well. As soon as you get in your car, the workday's done in your mind. With public transport, the day ends only when you're at your front door.

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  3. Re:Work close to where you live as a priority by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'd tell you but then you'd want to move here which would just make our traffic load worse. Sorry.

  4. Used to dread my commute. by TigerPlish · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It was 1.5 hours from my house to the shop in Calle Ocho. Through the worst of miami. 2nd gear crawling most of the time.

    Then I got a better job, closer to home. I actually get to enjoy my car now. I floor the first 3 gears then lazy-shift up the last 3. Nice, flowing traffic -- fast, mind you, but easy.

    There's those who love to drive, and those who hate driving and hate cars. Guess who there's more of. Yeah. This is why cars are maybe 5% of the cars out there, and the rest are lumbering land-cows called "SUVs" and "Crossovers."

    And of those 5%, maybe 1% of those are sports car. What the hell happened? What's with all the land cows?

    Leave the driving to those who love cars. The rest of you, for all that is holy, get your self-driving podmobiles already!

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  5. Re: Work close to where you live as a priority by peragrin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Actually the 60's -90's you got one job and stayed with it until you died.

    You might only work for 2-3 companies your entire life.

    Millineials basically have to get a new job every 5 years with a new employer as employers do not give out wage increases otherwise. Why do you think wage growth has basically been negative for the last 15 years compared to inflation?

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  6. Feds Failed to Make Roads Safe for Non-Motorists by BrendaEM · · Score: 4, Informative

    America has written it's laws like everyone is born with a SUV strapped to their ass.
    If you make our transportation systems safer for pedestrians, bicyclists, motorcyclists, and scooterists, it will cut down traffic, and reduce our dependence on oil.

    Scooters, motorcycles, and mopeds help reduce traffic in other countries.

    (Some scooters get 92MPG, many motorcycles get 64MPG.)

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  7. Re:Work close to where you live as a priority by djinn6 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There's a few big differences between then and now:

    1. Both parents work now, so it's much harder to find a place that's close for both
    2. People change jobs every 2-3 years, instead of staying at one company for decades
    3. Houses have become much more expensive, together with the associated transaction costs

  8. Re:Work close to where you live as a priority by SirSlud · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What the fuck are you arguing against? Somebody said move to your job rather than care about the improvement of roads and transportation. The other person said that's not a practical solution for huge swaths of people when there's two jobs and kids. Your point is, apparently, "Yes, you're right, it's not a solution, stop whining about it."

    Like somebody saying, "Hey this could make things better" and your answer is "My perceived experience with this inconvenience means you shouldn't be interested in whether the conditions dealing with it deteriorate or improve." You're a dumbfuck, cayenne8. Every fucking day.

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  9. Re:Work close to where you live as a priority by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You know what happens when a city stops growing? It stagnates and dies. Cities plan for growth, and when it stops happening, bad things happen to the plans based on growth. Governments can grow quite easily, but shrinking is very hard, and often behind the curve creating a death spiral for the city. It doesn't happen very often, but when it does, it is ugly.

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