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Microsoft Resumes Rollout of Windows 10 Version 1809, Promises Quality Changes (zdnet.com)

Posted by msmash on from the third-time's-the-charm dept.

Microsoft on Wednesday resumed the rollout of Windows 10 version 1809. The re-release of the so-called October 2018 Update comes more than five weeks after the company pulled the original installation files from its download servers and stopped its scheduled delivery through Windows Update. From a report: In a blog post, Microsoft's John Cable, the director of Program Management for Windows Servicing and Delivery, says the data-destroying bug that triggered that unprecedented decision, as well as other quality issues that emerged during the unscheduled hiatus, have been "thoroughly investigated and resolved."

139 comments

  1. And yet by OYAHHH · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As I sit here 4 or 5 days in my Windows 10 Professional version, bought, paid for, came on high end laptop from day one, is indicating that it is not a valid license and that I need to activate it.

    Are they promising lower quality?

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    1. Re: And yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, just data loss.

    2. Re:And yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lower quality is assured with every update!

    3. Re: And yet by tysonedwards · · Score: 0

      The problem with Software-as-a-Service is you rarely are allowed to know the root cause of an issue, how to avoid this situation or others in the future. In the best case, itâ(TM)s just âoethank you for reporting the issue, weâ(TM)ve addressed it.â Iâ(TM)m the worst itâ(TM)s âoeplease try it again.â

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    4. Re: And yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Put down the iphone.

    5. Re: And yet by Joce640k · · Score: 2

      The problem with Software-as-a-Service is you rarely are allowed to know the root cause of an issue

      Microsoft screwed up.

      how to avoid this situation or others in the future

      Don't go "ZOMG, updates! Must have NOW!!!" in the future. Wait for everybody else to be the guinea pigs.

      Also: Make backups.

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    6. Re: And yet by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 4, Funny

      Put down the iphone.

      Why? It's the only remaining WORKING device he has!

    7. Re:And yet by DRJlaw · · Score: 0, Troll

      As I sit here 4 or 5 days in my Windows 10 Professional version, bought, paid for, came on high end laptop from day one, is indicating that it is not a valid license and that I need to activate it.

      If you're too full of yourself to run the activation troubleshooter, that's on you. They had this fixed the next day, so I can only imagine what you've been up to over the weekend.

    8. Re: And yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Don't go "ZOMG, updates! Must have NOW!!!" in the future. Wait for everybody else to be the guinea pigs.

      Or better, don't use Windows 10 or any other software that spies on you and won't allow you to control updates.

      I nearly bought a copy of Affinity Photo recently, until I discovered that it phones home with no way to disable that "feature". Now I'm warning people away from it.

    9. Re: And yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      So everybody should wait for everybody else to get the software before getting the software. Sounds like a functional plan, let's do it.

    10. Re:And yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You still have Windows installed? That's some serious Stockholm Syndrome you got there.
      I sympathize, but ultimately it's your fault because you continue to reward their behavior.

    11. Re:And yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That link is a malware site.

      CAP === 'shaping'

    12. Re:And yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      [...] Are they promising lower quality?

      Yes.

    13. Re:And yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      [...] Are they promising lower quality?

      Yes.

      I think they are trying to get back to the Windows ME days.

    14. Re:And yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are they promising lower quality?

      They're just trying to relive the heyday of their quality goals when trying to be competitive. So, in the modern incarnation: Windows ain't don't until Windows don't run.

    15. Re: And yet by mandark1967 · · Score: 2

      Put down the iphone.

      And how the hell is he supposed to play Diablo then?

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    16. Re: And yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      How about Slashdot fixes their goddamn software instead? Unicode is only, what, 20 years old at this point?

    17. Re:And yet by DigiShaman · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The deal is altered. Pray that it isn't altered any further

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    18. Re: And yet by kurkosdr · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's always 1999 in Slashdot. Wait for the next "Year Of The Linux Desktop" article if you don't believe me.

    19. Re:And yet by kurkosdr · · Score: 1

      Windows and my Nvidia card are complementary goods. And I get to have the latest versions of software without waiting for any repos to repackage them or having to compile them. And I use Windows 8.1 so I don't care what experiments Nadella and his hipsters do to Windows 10. Let someone else beta test their SaaS experiment.

    20. Re:And yet by blahplusplus · · Score: 1

      As I sit here 4 or 5 days in my Windows 10 Professional version, bought, paid for, came on high end laptop from day one, is indicating that it is not a valid license and that I need to activate it.

      Are they promising lower quality?

      It's what you deserve for buying an OS with online drm. That's why many of us stuck to windows 7 and have any W10 copy we have we may need for other purposes quarantined on it's own machine.

    21. Re: And yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ever heard of a firewall?

    22. Re: And yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, I always have firewalls in place. What's your point? That because firewalls exist, it's OK for shitbag developers to be scummy?

    23. Re:And yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The problem with the activation servers has been fixed. Tick the Activate now button and it should clear your error.

      Also, sorry about that.

    24. Re:And yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've activated thousands of copies of Windows, hundreds of Windows 10 and had issues twice, which were easily and quickly resolved with a call to MS. I'm guessing either you are not trying very hard, you bought a sketchy copy of Windows or you don't have good computer skills. I support Windows, MacOS, Linux, FreeBSD, Solaris (in the past). For a desktop system, Windows takes the least work.

    25. Re: And yet by Monster_user · · Score: 1

      Dude! Me too!

      Windows 2000
      Windows Vista
      Windows 8.1

      I do have a Windows 10 device, but it is a tablet, not anything I depend on.

    26. Re: And yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Windows may still have something wrong with it. Hope they hurry up with the fixes, assuming it pleases them which is doubtful given what a bunch of pansies they are

    27. Re: And yet by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      I'm sure you have heard of "stable" software yea? like RHEL.. They literally wait for other people to get and use the software and fix the bugs present in software... for a loooong time before they add it into a Stable release. If your system must be stable, don't complain when you install bleeding edge software and shit breaks.

    28. Re:And yet by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      I would take Windows ME over Windows 10 in a heart beat..

    29. Re: And yet by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 1

      Good idea, if you're using an OS that doesn't auto-install bleeding edge software.

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    30. Re: And yet by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      I mean, if the chained up dog keeps biting you on the ass why do you keep walking by him..

    31. Re: And yet by Brockmire · · Score: -1

      Well, that is an activation server problem, which is probably running Linux or a BSD. It has nothing to do with win10 the operating system. The problem is people don't know what the fuck they are complaining about.

  2. Protect yourself from poor quality updates... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

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    Yields more security/speed/reliability/anonymity vs. any 1 solution (99% of threats use hostnames vs. IP address most firewalls use) more efficiently/FASTER + NATIVELY 4 less!

    Vs. "Bolt on 'MoAr' illogic-logic" slowing u hosts speed u up 2 ways: Adblocks + Hardcode fav. sites u spend most time @ vs. competition loaded w/ security bugs (DNS/AntiVir) + overheads slowing u (messagepass 'souled-out' to advertisers easily detected & blocked addons + firewall filtering drivers) & their complexity leads to exploit!

    * ONLY 1 of its kind in GUI 4 Windows & supports port filters!

    APK

    P.S.=> Protects vs. all speculative execution exploits + scripts/trackers (faster vs. NoScript @ kernelmode level)/ads/DNS request tracking + redirect poisoned or downed DNS/botnets/malware/malcript/email malicious payloads... apk

  3. Promises quality changes, yeah right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    More PR from Microsoft, seriously if we had received half the feature updates we probably would have a better Windows 10. I know I wouldn't have missed most of the features, and I certainly want less updates and more polishing of existing releases. Will that happen now that Microsoft has messed up this so much?? I doubt it.

    1. Re:Promises quality changes, yeah right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      More PR from Microsoft, seriously if we had received half the feature updates we probably would have a better Windows 10. I know I wouldn't have missed most of the features, and I certainly want less updates and more polishing of existing releases. Will that happen now that Microsoft has messed up this so much?? I doubt it.

      Move fast and break things.

  4. Sure, we believe you ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This positively smacks of "OK, this time we're pretty sure it will work".

    Why would I believe them?

    Sorry, but Windows deciding when to update my machine was a deal breaker for Windows 10.

    I've lost count of the number of times I've heard about people suddenly losing work as Windows decided now was a good time to update, or doing it while they're in the middle of presenting their screen.

    Windows 10 really seems like it's broken by design.

    1. Re:Sure, we believe you ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Microsoft Resumes Rollout of Windows 10 Version 1809,

      So, we don't have version control anymore; the "fixed" version number is the same
      version number as the broken version. Great... Indian engineers... Just sayin'.

      "Hey, did you install the 1809 update yet?"
      "Which one?"

      CAP === 'rubble'

    2. Re:Sure, we believe you ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They are trying to bury the fact that they had such a massive failure. Years down the line, most people won't remember and any reference to 1809 will be for the "actually, really fixed this time, we promise" version.

      Indians just aren't very good when it comes to technology. All they know how to do is run down checklists and do code copypasta. They don't actually understand anything about what they are working with, which is why you'll get either a regurgitated line that is only peripherally linked or blank looks when you ask them about anything more complex than restarting a computer.

    3. Re:Sure, we believe you ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Indians just aren't very good when it comes to technology.

      Could we at least TRY not to lump a BILLION people into a blanket statement. That is called stereotyping and it could be considered racist here. Unless you happen to be a rare top notch-level developer, there are almost certainly LITERALLY over a million better Indian coders than you. Heck, there are three just in down the hallway from me now that I'd be willing to bet are better coders than you.

    4. Re:Sure, we believe you ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Great... Indian engineers... Just sayin'.

      Currently Score:4, Insightful. Racism being modded up is becoming the norm on slashdot.

    5. Re:Sure, we believe you ... by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      When any time anybody says anything bad about somebody that isn't white is considered racist... These things happen.

    6. Re:Sure, we believe you ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL. There are precisely ZERO Indian "programmers". They all just copypasta without any deeper knowledge. Go on, ask them to perform even a basic programming exercise, purely from knowledge, without the aid of the internet or books and I bet they fail miserably. BTW, ever notice how Indians never use anything other than Windows? That's because they lack the ability to use anything else and you think they can code? Get fucking real, junior.

      Oh and Indian isn't a race, dumbass.

  5. Re:Protect yourself from poor quality updates... a by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    God I wish you would die in a fire already.

  6. AAUGH.....WHUMP! by sjames · · Score: 1

    This

  7. "Quality Changes" have been toward WORSE quality. by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 1

    Microsoft "Promises Quality Changes".

    It seems to me that the fundamental issue is that Microsoft managers don't have the social ability to be good managers.

    The huge number of major problems with Windows 10 have damaged Microsoft's reputation.

  8. Intel issues: U may be right/no portfilter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Hosts can stop portsmash (blocking downloads of it) "You basically have to already be able to run your own evil code on a machine in order to PortSmash it." from https://www.theregister.co.uk/...

    U FAIL a PORTFILTERING TEST https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

    APK

    P.S.=> HOWEVER: You MAY also be RIGHT on Spectre/Meltdown being PREVENTABLE via hosts blocking downloaded software (script or exe) but NOT TOTALLY SURE here (vs. say, RPC using them which would be REMOTE vs. LOCAL as in portsmash above) per https://meltdownattack.com/mel... &/or https://spectreattack.com/spec... ACADEMIC RESEARCH into their mechanics! apk

  9. Blame those impersonating me, not I... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Blame those impersonating me. I only post on hosts IF they stop threats OR to speed you up. I don't off topic.

    I've got my own "psycho fanclub" IMPERSONATING me & spamming + lying about MY work (I don't post about it unless it applies to STOP THREATS or SPEED YOU UP) STALKING me constantly by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts like whackos!

    Especially GOOFS like c6gunner CAUGHT IMPERSONATING ME https://linux.slashdot.org/com...

    (His name's on that post link as the SUBMITTER yet signing "APK" as I do while he ALTERED users words of praise of my work (since he tried INSULTING me & I simply issued a FAIR CHALLENGE to him that HE SHOW HE CAN DO BETTER - he hasn't to date & NEVER will (wannabe))).

    ZIP is another & he tried HIDING facts that show he's a FOOL & A LIAR here, twice https://news.slashdot.org/comm...

    APK

    P.S.=> I'm not here to lose (that's for LOSERS like ZIP &/or c6gunner - not I): I'm here to WIN & everyone does that uses hosts files ... apk

  10. IMPERSONATING me AGAIN? apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    You're caught impersonating me c6gunner (your name's the submitter signing "APK") https://linux.slashdot.org/com... & you ALTERED /.ers PRAISE of my work (not yours you don't even HAVE).

    (Don't throw stones if you live in a glass house vs. me: RIGHT ZIP? https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... )

    LIAR ZIP says he has no account "I don't have an account, so I don't have mod points" https://news.slashdot.org/comm...

    Yet LIAR ZIP says he downmods my posts (IMPOSSIBLE MINUS AN ACCOUNT on /.): "I down-modded a few of your post on other threads" - by Anonymous Coward "ZIP" on Thursday October 11, 2018 @11:31AM (#57461058) FROM https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

    APK

    P.S.=> Hosts can stop portsmash (blocking downloads of it) "You basically have to already be able to run your own evil code on a machine in order to PortSmash it." from https://www.theregister.co.uk/... not Spectre/Meltdown AFAIK (but it's POSSIBLE it might but NOT TOTALLY SURE here (vs. say, RPC using them which would be REMOTE vs. LOCAL as in portsmash above) per https://meltdownattack.com/mel... &/or https://spectreattack.com/spec... ACADEMIC RESEARCH into their mechanics ) - & U FAIL a PORTFILTERING TEST https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... ... apk

    1. Re: IMPERSONATING me AGAIN? apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      I fired APK because he couldn't hack it. His knowledge is limited and he's annoying to deal with. Stay away.

      - Deuce Schneiner

  11. Quality? Really? by Syncerus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not to sound the hater, but MS has been promising quality since Windows 3.1 and has instead delivered a pretty veneer draped over a pile of compiled sludge. Any time I've programmed Windows apps, admittedly not since Windows 7, I've stumbled into shortcuts, hacks, slovenly cruft, and a general non-adherence to their own stated best practices. At this point, the onus of proof is on Microsoft to **demonstrate** quality rather than talk about it. Three or four updates in a row that that don't trigger showstopper bugs would be a good start. The world doesn't need another MS PowerPoint explaining the greatness of Windows 10: it needs a working Windows 10.

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    1. Re:Quality? Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why are they only focusing on this "data destroyer"? How about the most obvious and complained about data destroyer: force-rebooting a machine to install updates. I'm sure their users would appreciate not losing more data to this idiocy.

    2. Re:Quality? Really? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Not to sound the hater, but MS has been promising quality since Windows 3.1 and has instead delivered a pretty veneer draped over a pile of compiled sludge.

      Wrong target. You're talking quality of the product, they are talking about quality of the updates. It is quite clear that in the era of Windows 10 quality of updates has fallen off the worlds tallest cliff.

      But the rest of your post is not hating. It's just fact. Just the latest in a line of updates that had to be halted for some people. Hell the April update was halted from Microsoft's own Surface devices as Surface Pros used the SSDs that were affected by a critical bug.

    3. Re:Quality? Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep, forced reboots are the most idiotic things Microsoft has done for Windows 10. I have lost hours of work thanks to MS; who has decided that my machine just had to reboot during lunch time to get the latest candy crush and spyware installed. Most of my work is done in a VM, so even if the files are saved inside VM when leaving machine, a forced shutdown of VMWare results into guest reboot, fsck and re-opening a dozen windows and applications just takes a lot of time.

  12. Change name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wonder when they will realize that there will be 40 different versions and variations of "Windows 10" that they will simply have to change the name at some point to like "Windows 12" or something.

  13. Let's celebrate with a forced reboot!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just love Windows 10 "Pro"! It's reminiscent of Windows 95 rebooting every 47.9 days.

    1. Re:Let's celebrate with a forced reboot!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No one knew about that bug until almost WinXP because it was night impossible to get Win95 to run that long in the first place.

    2. Re: Let's celebrate with a forced reboot!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wow you can get win 10 to an uptime of 45 days? you should have played the lottery instead because you wasted that luck

    3. Re:Let's celebrate with a forced reboot!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Win 9x had some non fatal blues screens, I liked to recognise them and recover from them.
      I still lack 98 SE, because it just ran 20 years of PC games with no incompatibility, no missing features and the config.sys was piece of cake (load himem.sys then emm386.exe, put DOS=HIGH and DOS=UMB somewhere in the chain. I used DEVICE=C:\PATH\EMM386.EXE RAM, I don't know what the RAM paramater stood for but I just had both EMS and XMS games working)
      Er.. Is that easy? Still easier than Dosbox with 100x slower CPU, sound glitches, drive mounting, missing commands, no editor..
      Ran the 1996 to 1999 games too.

  14. Windows Tyranny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I hate Windows overall, but posses a white-hot hatred for the pile of crap that is Windows 10. Enough to consider getting out of IT support altogether. Don't tell me to go somewhere and do Linux. There is not enough demand. RedHat now belongs to IBM, FFS. I can't go back to Unix, that ship has sailed. Doing Cloud Support is a joke, unless I want to get a Comp.Sci degree, a Database certification and a Cisco cert or 10. It was a good run. Windows has now eaten the entire world. It's time to find something else to do for a living.

    1. Re:Windows Tyranny by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

      The Marines are looking for a few good men.

    2. Re:Windows Tyranny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Marines are looking for a few good men.

      They won't find any in the USA. They've all been pussified by the women's liberation movement.

    3. Re:Windows Tyranny by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      HOORAH!!! Ow I broke a nail! Where's my file...

  15. Remember waiting in line to buy DOS 5.0? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now you're regretting it.

    1. Re:Remember waiting in line to buy DOS 5.0? by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

      What? It was far better than DOS 4.0. I couldn't wait to upgrade.

    2. Re:Remember waiting in line to buy DOS 5.0? by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 1

      Now you're regretting it.

      Nope. DOS 5.0 was the last great OS from Microsoft. It's been downhill ever since.

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  16. Re: "Quality Changes" have been toward WORSE quali by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    More like Indians and communication problems often go hand in hand.

  17. LOL! Problem 4U Mr. UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    I'm only a problem 4U Mr. UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous - I'll run you dry of downmodpoints & outsmart you as always, loser... obviously I've RUN YOU DRY of them already (& if not, I will, inevitably & I WIN, as always). I'll start these threads when I DAMN WELL PLEASE & you'll just CRY more like the BITCH you are.

    * ... & you KNOW it.

    (YOU? You do ALL you've ever known how to DO in your WASTED LIFE (especially vs. me) - LOSE).

    APK

    P.S.=> Unbelievable - trying to play "victim" like the PUNK you are giving me that BULLSHIT? I'm not the one spamming on hosts OFF-TOPIC - they are & I'll beat them @ it until they SCREAM for mercy (I have before & will again - their 'downmodpoints' are FINITE - my ability to REPOST to nullify bogus downmods, isn't (FAR from it))... apk

  18. Overblown by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    The "quality" issues were masively overblown. Windows is still by a huge margin the best platform for desktop computing. More applications, better security record, etc. I tried lin-sux once and lost HOURS of productive time to configuring kernels and struggling with missing software. Plus you cant even play games on lin-sux. Its just not worth it.

    1. Re: Overblown by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Windows is still by a huge margin the best platform for desktop computing

      Lol. That's the stupidest thing you've ever said, APK, and you've said a LOT of stupid shit ...

  19. Too bad I'm hacking you to pieces... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Too bad I'm hacking you to pieces https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... (& you can't validly combat my points on hosts so you impersonate me & lie etc.? Weak) & ran you dry of "downmodpoints" + I used FACTS you can't overcome... lol!

    * You KNOW you're going to LOSE vs. me, don't you? Get it thru your PUNY head - you're LOSING!

    APK

    P.S.=> Losing is ALL YOUR KIND knows HOW to do - get used to it, you're losing more vs. me as always, lol... apk

  20. Versioning? by Surak_Prime · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I really need an explanation for how they justify saying they've made revisions while keeping it as Version 1809. That isn't how it works. That isn't how any of this works.

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    1. Re:Versioning? by jfdavis668 · · Score: 2

      1809 is not its version number. It's version 10.0.17763. Not sure if that changed with the new release.

    2. Re:Versioning? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Didn't you hear? Microsoft made it quite clear with the release of Windows 10 that there would be no more versions. This new release isn't Windows 10 SP5. It's not Windows 10 version 1809. It's not even a more accurate version 1811, because that would mean admitting that they missed releasing 1809 in month 09 and that they royally screwed the pooch by releasing an untested and badly broken attempt at 1810 in month 10. It's just Windows 10. Now take your blue pill and run along.

    3. Re:Versioning? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      its almost as if the release is labeled after the month it "in theory" went gold in... 2018 - 09

    4. Re:Versioning? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I really need an explanation for how they justify saying they've made revisions while keeping it as Version 1809. That isn't how it works. That isn't how any of this works.

      Windows 8.0 was crap, and the first version of Windows 8.1 was trash. So then there was a second version of Windows 8.1 (instead of 8.2, or even 8.11 or 8.1a). Assholes.

    5. Re:Versioning? by thegarbz · · Score: 4, Informative

      I can't believe I'm put in a stupid enough position to say this, but that is just the major version number. There are point releases after that. The version that was pulled was 10.0.17763.55. The current released version is 10.0.17763.107

    6. Re:Versioning? by thegarbz · · Score: 2

      I really need an explanation for how they justify saying they've made revisions while keeping it as Version 1809. That isn't how it works. That isn't how any of this works.

      That is exactly how it works. The number 1809 is just a name representing the targetted release month. The actual version number of the release that was pulled was 10.0.17763.55.

      The current released version is 10.0.17763.107

    7. Re: Versioning? by Monster_user · · Score: 2

      1809 is not the version number, its the release date.

      2018-09-??

    8. Re:Versioning? by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      so what, it's an unknown version of operating system a windows box runs with unknown capabilities. "do I have the win 10 that does x y and z" "no you have the p q and s version, they dropped x - z last fall you moron"

    9. Re: Versioning? by blindseer · · Score: 3, Funny

      2018-09-??

      3) Profit.

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    10. Re:Versioning? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      so what, it's an unknown version of operating system a windows box runs with unknown capabilities.

      Not at all. There's no capability differences between the releases of Windows 10 1809. The list of features are identical regardless of the minor versioning behind it, and are different from the version which came prior to it: 1804.

      If you're confused then you must be intentionally confusing yourself.

    11. Re: Versioning? by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 2

      Technically, the release date should be 1810 for the version that deletes your files, or 1811 for the one that (hopefully) doesn't.

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    12. Re:Versioning? by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      read what you wrote, features are identical but are different from the ones that came prior

      yeah, you are the one confused

      the TRUTH is that people have found devices and applications suddenly incompatible with the minor version number creep.

      it's a mess

    13. Re:Versioning? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      read what you wrote, features are identical but are different from the ones that came prior

      Since you're only able to read and understand one sentence at a time and seem to be confused by the use of a colon let me rephrase:
      "The list of features in the current 1809 and in the pulled 1809 are identical regardless of the minor versioning of 107 vs 55 behind it, and are different from the version of windows 10 colloquially known as 1804 which came prior to it"

      yeah, you are the one confused

      Please learn the English.

  21. Copy/Pasting MY post IMPERSONATING me? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Copy/Pasting a post of mine IMPERSONATING me FROM https://it.slashdot.org/commen... ?

    * LOL - that must've PISSED YOU OFF impostor - got to ya obviously, lmao!

    (... As you KNOW I've RUN YOU DRY of your BOGUS downmodpoints you abuse (IF I haven't? I will, as always, INEVITABLY) & that YOU & "your kind" (Troll "ne'er-do-well" DO-NOTHING zeros in life) use multiple sockpuppets to farm on /. to abuse vs. myself & DOUBTLESS many others - you tried it w/ the WRONG GUY in me, fool...)

    APK

    P.S.=> Ah, yes folks - there's NOTHING LIKE WINNING using facts https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... that LOSERS that IMPERSONATE me can't overcome, lol... apk

  22. What could go wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Microsoft changes nothing and is eagerly expecting different results

  23. 1703 still works for me! by leelapolis · · Score: 1

    This is why I keep my version frozen at 1703. It works and I don't want to mess with problems as I've got plenty to do without being my own IT manager.

    1. Re:1703 still works for me! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You do realize those older versions get out of support rather quickly, right?

      1507 (unless LTSB) and 1511 are out of support, 1607 *may* be out of support now that 1809 is officially out (I haven't followed up on that), so your beloved 1703 would be the next one on the chopping block.

      If you have any sense, give it a few weeks, then let it update on its own. Once you know others have given it a good dry-run, there's very little reason for you, as an end user, to stick with an older version. Surely you're not so busy you can't let a machine upgrade itself overnight when you're away for a few hours anyway.

    2. Re:1703 still works for me! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ..."Surely you're not so busy you can't let a machine upgrade itself overnight when you're away for a few hours anyway."

      I'm too busy. If it hoses my machine, I don't have time to fix it. No, really. I'll buy a new one.

      But then, I'm running Win7, and replaced my laptop with a Mac. No time for this BS.

    3. Re:1703 still works for me! by leelapolis · · Score: 1

      I got the OOS experience with Windows XP and was happily going to upgrade to Win8 when that changed my mind. I figured if you going to make figure out a new OS I'll choose what I what to learn and switched to OSX. OSX has gone thru 8 or so revisions and yet my user experience has exactly been the same. Not so much like that for windows. I still needed a windows platform for a piece of critical software that I use that doesn't have a Mac equivalent so I'm started with 8.1 -> 10 (1703). Trying to update to 1709 caused my mouse to stop working and couldn't get anyone to help resolve the issue so back to 1703 and been there ever since. I neither have the time or patience to deal with being MS's babysitter.

      You'd think in this day and age you'd still be able to point and click with the mouse no matter what. Hell the keyboard and trackpad works. But the mouse, nah.

      Case in point. I run two Mac laptops, one stuck at Yosemite and the other running the latest and greatest. The Yosemite mouse died and so okay I'll just get another and it was the Magic Mouse 2. Ha, the MM2 fancier features work only with OSX after Yosemite but it still pointed and clicked with Yosemite which was okay until I was able to track down a used Magic Mouse 1. Minimum functions still had backwards compatibility.

    4. Re:1703 still works for me! by Solandri · · Score: 1

      I tried to stay on 1511 because the 1703 update broke a bunch of my program icons (turned them into generic icons even when I specifically selected the program icon), and for some reason prevented me from reinstalling those programs to fix the icons. I used on of the common tricks to block the update. For the first few months it worked. Then I started getting warnings every day that security support for 1511 had ended and I needed to update to 1703 to continue to get security updates. Eventually, all the tricks I'd used to prevent the update (disable the Windows Update service, set my connection to metered) stopped working. The Windows Update service would auto-enable itself and begin auto-downloading the 1703 update (3 GB) and trying to install it. And every time my program icons were still broken so I'd have to roll it back.

      It auto-downloaded so many times that I was in danger of going over my monthly quota from my ISP, and I had to switch to using my phone's hotspot for Internet (where it still downloaded, but slowly enough that it wasn't trying to auto-update every few hours). Eventually I put aside an afternoon, updated, wrote down the name of every program whose icon was broken, rolled it back, reinstalled all those programs, then let Windows update to 1803. That seemed to fix the icons, although i still can't reinstall/repair any of those programs (guess I'll have to wipe and reinstall from scratch if that becomes an issue).

      Anyhow, security updates for 1703 ended on October 9. So expect to experience the above strong-arm tactics to force you to upgrade in the coming months.

    5. Re:1703 still works for me! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is why im still on 1511, windows breaks too much shit every time it wants to update.. thankfully i cracked it, then broke all metro apps, finally in control of my own fucking computer again!

    6. Re:1703 still works for me! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My machines are frozen at 1709, but not by choice. Windows update simply fails each time it tries to update.

    7. Re:1703 still works for me! by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      How did you get that feature?

    8. Re:1703 still works for me! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you have your Windows 10 working the way you want it to and don't want to worry about breaking it every time they come out with an update, just disable Windows 10 updates completely with Block-Ups, takes a few seconds at most.

      BlockUps Windows 10

    9. Re:1703 still works for me! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just use LTSB + a tweak tool and all those problems don't exist.

  24. October update: Buy 10 months worth of bugs... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...get 2 months free!

  25. Updates? by Bobrick · · Score: 3, Funny

    My Win7 has never made contact with Windows Update and never will. Still going fine.

    1. Re:Updates? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As I type on my new laptop running linux, I recall my first boot just to make sure the laptop was ok. Win 10 booted, I ran a few tests never letting it connect to a wifi. Then I booted a live linux to confirm the wifi. Then I wiped win10 off the disk with a fresh install. Just like I do with every laptop I buy. Desktops never see win as I build them from scratch.

    2. Re:Updates? by FudRucker · · Score: 1

      thats basically what i did, i got a clean copy of win-7_SP1 did a fresh clean install and never allow it to connect to the internet, i only use it for a few things that Linux dont do great, i have HDSDR for a SDR receiver i like to play with, GQRX is great software on Linux but it dont have a notch filter which would be a great feature if Csete could/would add a notch filter feature to GQRX, so for now when i need a notch filter i open a laptop with win-7 and HDSDR and use that, other than that microsoft windows is an operating system i mostly abandoned

      --
      Politics is Treachery, Religion is Brainwashing
    3. Re:Updates? by blind+biker · · Score: 1

      Same here. I never allow it to update, and only occasionally apply some patches manually.

      --
      "The agriculture ministry is not in charge of Gundam" - Japanese ministry official.
    4. Re:Updates? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What exactly is a notch filter?

    5. Re:Updates? by antdude · · Score: 1

      Have you checked for malwares on it since you used it online? :P

      --
      Ant(Dude) @ Quality Foraged Links (AQFL.net) & The Ant Farm (antfarm.ma.cx / antfarm.home.dhs.org).
    6. Re:Updates? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You might want to update your WIn7. There's a remote exploit patched this summer, quite serious, lookup CVE-2018-8225. You could get pwned on a single DNS request!

    7. Re:Updates? by Bobrick · · Score: 1

      I install and run AV + anti-malware once a month or so, then uninstall afterwards so I don't have a resident program scanning data when I don't want it to.

    8. Re:Updates? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The AVG bootable AV ISO is great for that. Even better because you're not booting off a potentially compromised OS. I run it once a month to check for nasties.

      Only problem is it identifies some of my own self written programs as malware but I set it to rename anything it doesn't like so I can just rename (or recompile) after the scan.

      The way most current anti virus hogs your machine means they might as well be malware themselves !

    9. Re:Updates? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, jokes aside, if you do a fresh install for Win7 the Windows Update is broken by default. Last summer I spent a day to fix the updates on a fresh install on a give away PC. It seems that MS has really dropped the ball with Win7 and have stopped any testing with it. Perhaps their test VMs run just fine as they have gotten all the incremental updates.

    10. Re:Updates? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's using a Software Defined Radio receiver.

      On a radio receiver, a notch filter is used to block out an unwanted narrowband signal. So say you're monitoring at a dial frequency of 64 MHz, you're actually receiving say 20 kHz of bandwidth, (63990 kHz to 64010 kHz.) Now say there's a 2 kHz wide signal at 63992 kHz to 63994 kHz. You use a notch filter, (in this case, preferably 2kHz or wider,) to block that signal out.

      These are just rough examples, but you get the idea.

  26. Pfft... Microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Microsoft Windows and quality aren't two words that really go together.

    You can polish a turd, but it's still just a turd.

  27. Win 7 4 ever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My Win7 has never made contact with Windows Update and never will. Still going fine.

    There are edge cases where this makes sense. E.g., I have an old Win 7 machine with about $5K of a software version that doesn't run on Win 10. Never versions of that software have nothing I need. The machine has been air-gapped since Win 7 end-of-support and will remain so.

    1. Re:Win 7 4 ever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pah. I'm still on XP due to hardware that has no drivers post XP. I'll not be upgrading until 2038. Then it'll be either some form of Linux or Mac.

      You have absolutely zero control over a Windows 10 machine so, as far as I'm concerned, the OS is unfit for purpose !

  28. This is why I stayed on Windows 9 by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

    My Chinese knock-off laptop is still running just fine.

    1. Re:This is why I stayed on Windows 9 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most if not all laptops are made in China. So technically all laptops are Chinese.

  29. Virtualized Windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Virtualized is the only safe way to run windows.

    Windows has access to a read only share for files, and that share is only populated with the files windows needs to see.

    A seperate writeable share is for the modified file, which is virus scanned, before being mirrored on the read-only share.

    network access is disabled by default.

    No telemetry, no activation, no personal information is stored whatsoever.

  30. An OS should allow software to run, not features by Streetlight · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Maybe I'm being antediluvian, and this may be a bit off topic, but it seems to me an OS should allow one to run applications manage memory and storage, etc., and not have applications built into the software which is so tied to the OS that a misbehaving app can brick a computer. If you try out some app and it seems either not to your liking or seems to disrupt the OS then generally would be easy to remove and find something else that does what you wont. Look at the browser space or search apps: you've got many choices and it's the same with other types of needs. The result is the developers of apps become responsible for making sure things work with the OS. It would become clear very early to folks who pay attention if an app hosed an OS or computer.

    --
    In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell
  31. Idea by Artem+S.+Tashkinov · · Score: 2

    A quality change would be service packs each year, and new versions of Windows each three years, which you could also upgrade to instead of wiping clean your disk but I guess it's too much for Microsoft. Also, having a good internal QA/QC team would be great instead of relying on "insiders" (what a stupid misnomer), sorry, external beta testers who Microsoft don't really listen to (the data wiping bug in Windows 10 1809 was reported months before it was made official but Microsoft didn't pay attention to it).

    Oh, wait, we had exactly that up to Windows 7.

    I still don't understand what their excuse is, as they successfully introduced new features in Windows NT/2000/XP/Vista service packs.

    1. Re:Idea by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      You still effectively have that. Service Packs have historically always added quite large features to OSes. And we have always had the (not recommended) possibility to just update major versions of windows in place.

      The only difference now is that there are no longer "new installs"

  32. lol then explain the mail/calendar update by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That was pushed on Windows Phone that left all 200 of us users without email and calendar for four days!!!??

    There is no QA when it comes to 10

    1. Re:lol then explain the mail/calendar update by sheph · · Score: 1

      We ARE the QA.

      --
      I don't believe in karma, I just call it like I see it.
    2. Re:lol then explain the mail/calendar update by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      Correction YOU are the QA, people who care about control of their computers jumped ship long ago. What's worse is Windows 10 wasn't even that bad to start until they started forcing installs and updates and reboots. I liked it because it was more stable than Windows 7 until that. Now I run Debian on my main machine and haven't had an issue in 2 years.

  33. Windows Server 2019 is back as well! by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    Windows Server 2019 is back as well!

  34. OneDrive Cancer sponsored by Cancer Microsoft! by shanen · · Score: 0

    Nonworking devices, eh? So how well does YOUR computer work when the disk is completely full? Or is it?

    Maybe it would be a mercy killing if Windows HAD decided my license was invalid?

    No Slashdot comments on this gigantic OneDrive bug yet? Why am I not surprised? Does it have anything to do with the present state of Slashdot? I was sort of considering submitting it as an AskSlashdot question, but at this point, looking over this thoughtful discussion, one has to say "Why bother?" That WEAK joke was just moderated "Insightful". (Small compensation that there is also a buried "Funny" mod in there?)

    Anyway, as I understand the current situation, one of my Windows 10 machines is having a near death experience. The disk is suddenly entirely full. Only it isn't. Only it is. Only who TF knows what TF is going on?

    My current theory is that OneDrive has somehow metastasized. I only have three machines running Windows 10, and I've done everything I can do to disable OneDrive on the biggest one, but it appears that the smallest one has been flooded with files from somewhere. Elephino if I know where, but I'm currently thinking it must be the second Windows 10 machine, possibly via some kind of perverse link to DropBox, which could, at least in theory, be bringing my Linux boxen into the mess.

    I wasted several hours yesterday trying to figure out what was going on, but right now I simply feel like collateral damage in the wars of the corporate cancers. The corporate cancer named Microsoft is desperate to gain traction against the cloud-storage dominance of such corporate cancers as the google, Apple, and Amazon. My situation apparently slipped right through Microsoft's so-called testing, and now I have to figure out what TF the mess means before I can even start shoveling the BS into tidier piles.

    Considering the state of today's Slashdot, this is just a rant. The days when Slashdot was a helpful technical resource are LONG gone. So let me see if there is any secret message buried in the caps?

    YOUR HAD WEAK LONG!

    And you better believe it!

    Or maybe the REAL message is buried in the disguised obscenities? Naw, I'll just leave that one as an exercise for the interesting reader. As in there aren't any interesting readers or writers around here these days.

    --
    Freedom = (Meaningful - Coerced) Choice != (Speech | Beer^2), and sad sock puppets' bad mods avail them naught.
    1. Re: OneDrive Cancer sponsored by Cancer Microsoft! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not sure what problem you've got going on, but it sounds like how OneNote spirals out of control at the Office.

      OneNote Notebooks are backed up, twice, on the local partition by default. So every file exists in triplicate. Hook it into OneDrive and you've got another local copy on the disk, possibly even two more.

      And these are 100GB Notebooks, quintupled on systems standardized on 500GB drives... So, I feel ya bro. Fortunately, I am not bumbling around in the dark as to what is causing it.

    2. Re:OneDrive Cancer sponsored by Cancer Microsoft! by shanen · · Score: 1

      The critical situation of the small Windows 10 machine is not fully stable, so perhaps it's trying to heal itself. Always the optimist.

      It's also possible that part of the problem was the not-yet-updated state of the middle-sized Windows 10 machine. Maybe OneDrive is just confused by the transitional state and updating that machine will bring everything back to normal.

      It's increasingly hard to be optimistic whenever I notice the flying pigs. Smartphones with 512 GB of memory? Whatever for?

      So let me propose a new metric of storage: "What year did the Library of Congress first get that large?"

      By that metric, my little Windows 10 machine is much "older" than the big smartphone and my biggest Windows 10 machine is only one or two Moore's-Laws younger.

      --
      Freedom = (Meaningful - Coerced) Choice != (Speech | Beer^2), and sad sock puppets' bad mods avail them naught.
    3. Re:OneDrive Cancer sponsored by Cancer Microsoft! by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      Maybe, the fault is with the end user, perhaps they do not realise they are a crash test dummy for the business users with corporate licences. The crash test dummy method of product testing, get the retail dummies to test it for you and then gaslight them that you care, yep, uh huh, sure. M$ is practically screaming in everyone's face that they do not give one fuck about how they screw over retail customers and the morons keep sucking it up with Windows anal probe 10, just weak wimpers as M$ bends them over the desk and pounds into them, over and over and over again. Windows anal probe 10 has become a parody of itself.

      --
      Chaos - everything, everywhere, everywhen
    4. Re:OneDrive Cancer sponsored by Cancer Microsoft! by shanen · · Score: 1

      Well, that could finally explain the free upgrades to Windows 10. The funny part is that they actually sort of convinced me that Microsoft had begun to understand their cancerous reputation was hurting them. Memories are already a bit fuzzy, but I think I had two reach-out-and-touch-a-sucker communications from Microsoft in connection with Windows 10.

      One was before my first upgrade, and there was another contact from an engineer after an earlier major upgrade. Amusingly enough, my recollection is that the second contact was actually mediated through Slashdot. The Microsoftian in question was following up on a question that I'd posed on Slashdot. Don't recollect that he was able to do anything about the actual problem, but I almost felt like someone over there cared about the consequences of their incompetence. (Given their motivations, is it even conceivable that Microsoft can make an honest mistake?)

      In conclusion, I have become EXTREMELY resistant to the idea of ever again buying anything that I associate with the Microsoft brand. Hmm... The word "resistant" seems a bit weak. How about "abhorrent"? About 5 machines since I bought anything with Windows. Not a real solution. It just means I'm smoking the other corporate cancers.

      And today's sick machine remains sick. Mysterious reboot is just the latest symptom.

      Anyway, I still think the real solution is to fight the cancers at their roots. However time has already ticked away on this story, and my time counts, too, so I'll just bid you ADSAuPR, atAJG.

      --
      Freedom = (Meaningful - Coerced) Choice != (Speech | Beer^2), and sad sock puppets' bad mods avail them naught.
  35. Re:"Quality Changes" have been toward WORSE qualit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It seems to me that the fundamental issue is that Microsoft managers don't have the social ability to be good managers.

    I don't think that's necessarily it -- the issue is one of the fundamental flaw of DevOps.

    Let's look at the statement from TFA: We shifted the responsibility for base functional testing to our development teams in order to deliver higher quality code from the start.

    Well, allow me to retort: Your devs can't find bugs in your own damn code because if they knew what was broken, they'd have already fixed it before it shipped. (The reason is similar to the reason as a writer should never proofread their own work. A complete stranger off the street is more likely to spot a typo than the author.)

    Continuing on, the MS suit says: We also changed the focus of the teams that still report to me who are responsible for end to end validation, and added a fundamentally new capability to our approach to quality: The use of data and feedback to better understand and intensely focus on the experiences our customers were having with our products across the spectrum of real-world hardware and software combinations.

    And I'll translate that too: The "data driven" (telemetry) "new capability to your approach to quality" would never have been necessary if you'd, you know, actually kept a QA department who knew how to look for shit that devs miss. By the time you're getting telemetry, it's already too late, the users are already losing their data.

    This isn't QA (quality assurance, the engineering of processes to ensure that showstopper bugs don't ship in the first place), this isn't even 1940s-style QC (quality control, getting an order for 100 widgets and building a run of 120 because you know 20 of them will be discarded at the end of the assembly line.) This is literally "throw your shit over the wall and see if it runs."

    Devs throwing shit over the wall to a QA/QC/Testing department was a bad business practice because it wasted the testers' time and the developers' time -- testers said "Fuck, it doesn't work" and devs had to figure out why. The only difference between throwing shit over the wall back then and today's shit-as-a-service is that the testers are the unpaid end users. It makes sense from a quarter-by-quarter accounting viewpoint, but it's still a waste of developer time, and in the long term (2-5 years) results in a revenue drop due to the erosion of consumer confidence in the product.

  36. Re:An OS should allow software to run, not feature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now, now! You're thinking. You're not supposed to do that with MS stuff. Just let that telemetric boner slide inside your colon.

  37. Bend over by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I promise it's just my finger.

  38. IMPERSONATING me AGAIN? apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're caught impersonating me c6gunner (your name's the submitter signing "APK") https://linux.slashdot.org/com... & you ALTERED /.ers PRAISE of my work (not yours you don't even HAVE).

    (Don't throw stones if you live in a glass house vs. me: RIGHT ZIP? https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... )

    *** IGNORANT LYING CHIMP "ZIP" SHOT DOWN FOR HIS LIES & TECH FUCKUPS vs. me https://games.slashdot.org/com...

    LIAR ZIP says he has no account "I don't have an account, so I don't have mod points" https://news.slashdot.org/comm...

    Yet LIAR ZIP says he downmods my posts (IMPOSSIBLE MINUS AN ACCOUNT on /.): "I down-modded a few of your post on other threads" - by Anonymous Coward "ZIP" on Thursday October 11, 2018 @11:31AM (#57461058) FROM https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

    These PUSSY bullshit artists aren't bullies - they're worse - they're pussy ass PUNKS & talkers (all talk "ne'er-do-well" DO-NOTHINGS).

    APK

    P.S.=> Hosts can stop portsmash (blocking downloads of it) "You basically have to already be able to run your own evil code on a machine in order to PortSmash it." from https://www.theregister.co.uk/... not Spectre/Meltdown AFAIK (but it's POSSIBLE it might but NOT TOTALLY SURE here (vs. say, RPC using them which would be REMOTE vs. LOCAL as in portsmash above) per https://meltdownattack.com/mel... &/or https://spectreattack.com/spec... ACADEMIC RESEARCH into their mechanics ) - & U FAIL a PORTFILTERING TEST https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... ... apk

  39. Blame those impersonating me, not I... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Blame those impersonating me. I only post on hosts IF they stop threats OR to speed you up. I don't off topic.

    I've got my own "psycho fanclub" IMPERSONATING me & spamming + lying about MY work (I don't post about it unless it applies to STOP THREATS or SPEED YOU UP) STALKING me constantly by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts like whackos!

    Especially GOOFS like c6gunner CAUGHT IMPERSONATING ME https://linux.slashdot.org/com...

    (His name's on that post link as the SUBMITTER yet signing "APK" as I do while he ALTERED users words of praise of my work (since he tried INSULTING me & I simply issued a FAIR CHALLENGE to him that HE SHOW HE CAN DO BETTER - he hasn't to date & NEVER will (wannabe))).

    ZIP is a FOOL & A LIAR vs. https://science.slashdot.org/c...

    APK

    P.S.=> I'm not here to lose (that's for LOSERS like ZIP &/or c6gunner - not I): I'm here to WIN & everyone does that uses hosts files ... apk

  40. Adobe deletes your files too by david999 · · Score: 0

    Last Windows 10 last update deleted your files. Also Microsoft OneDrive will delete your files.
    Search on: Microsoft OneDrive deleted my files

    Adobe deletes your files too.
    https://it.slashdot.org/story/...

  41. Re: "Quality Changes" have been toward WORSE quali by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's the most idiotic play I've seen in a while. Good job man....

  42. Windows LTSB by iamacat · · Score: 1

    Pay for the regular consumer version and than install that from the usual sites for personal sanity. You probably don't want to try Office, or OneDrive or Skype. You just want to play your Steam games without excessive junk and nagware. I wish that option was provided to consumers, even for an extra fee.

    1. Re:Windows LTSB by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      I think Microsoft should pay the user $100 per license they use personally..

  43. Wednesday? by ayesnymous · · Score: 1

    You mean Tuesday November 13: https://blogs.windows.com/wind...

  44. Re: "Quality Changes" have been toward WORSE quali by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

    Best thing is when they can't even communicate with each other.

    Here is a funny story that happened about 5 years ago at work. We had an Indian guy that worked for us, he was a security tech. He had to contact Honeywell support because we were having a problem programming one of their security panels. He gets an Indian tech support worker. They rambled back and forth for an hour and about every 5th sentence was "can you repeat that I can not understand what you are saying". Then the guy hangs up and complained about the tech support people not being able to speak proper English. Now I'm no linguist but from what I heard of the conversation they sounded damn near identical.

    Anecdotal sure, but was funny as hell from my view and I will probably never forget that day.

  45. Or you could skip all the drama by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just disable Windows 10 updates permanently with Block-Ups. Take a few seconds and you'll never have to worry about Microsoft forcing another update on you.

    Block-Ups for Windows 10

  46. MS sucked way before outsourcing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the 9x/ME era windows was worse in terms of stability than windows 10, whatever flaws it has.

    Ultimately it's White Men in suits who make the decisions in this world, not some Indians trying to better their lives.

    Corporations will search for the cheapest labor they can find; the high performing people of any race (who would command a high salary) are not what they are looking for.

    -mg157