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Mid-Range Google 'Pixel 3 Lite' Leaks With Snapdragon 670, Headphone Jack (9to5google.com)

Posted by BeauHD on from the budget-friendly dept.

The first alleged images of the rumored "budget" Pixel 3 have been leaked. The Pixel 3 Lite, as it is being called, looks very similar to the Pixel 3, although it features a plastic build construction, slower processor, and a headphone jack. 9to5Google reports: Just like the standard Pixel 3, there's a display that's roughly 5.56-inches in size, but this time it's an IPS LCD panel at 2220x1080 rather than an OLED panel. Obviously, there's also no notch to be seen on this alleged Pixel 3 Lite. There's a single front-facing camera as well as one speaker above that display, relatively thick bezels on the top and bottom, and a speaker along the bottom of the device as well.

Perhaps most interesting when it comes to the hardware, though, is that there's a headphone jack on the top of the phone. That's certainly unexpected since the Pixel 2 dropped the jack and Google hasn't looked back since. Tests from Rozetked reveal some of the specifications running this device as well. That includes a Snapdragon 670 chipset, 4GB of RAM, and 32GB of storage. Previous reports have pointed to a Snapdragon 710. Battery capacity on this device is also reported at 2915 mAh and there's a USB-C port along the bottom. It is rumored to include the same 12MP and 8MP cameras found in the standard Pixel 3 and Pixel 3 XL, which will be a huge selling point for the affordable phone market. The price is expected to be around $400-500.

94 comments

  1. Sweet by 110010001000 · · Score: 1, Funny

    Hope they manufacture enough for the holiday buying rush. I think about 14 should do it.

    1. Re: Sweet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pixel buyers always mistakenly think they get the very Best at an insanely high price, why would they want something advertised as midrange?

      Atleast it has minijack

  2. Oneplus looks like a much better deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Oneplus is around the same price point but with a first rate processor, more memory and a better screen. Surely Google can do better!

    1. Re: Oneplus looks like a much better deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bull shit is shit so call foul. That is all.

  3. Just when I lost hope. by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

    Just when I lost all hope of my next phone having a headphone jack. I had been contemplating switching from an iphone to the pixel when they removed the headphone jack.. Thought I was gonna be perpetually stuck on the iphone 6...

    1. Re: Just when I lost hope. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You will regret buying a pixel

    2. Re: Just when I lost hope. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Probably. But I am a sadomasochist =)

    3. Re: Just when I lost hope. by Tough+Love · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Apple astroturfer seems worried by this product.

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    4. Re:Just when I lost hope. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are tons of good Androids out there. Most have headphone jacks. And some even have removable batteries.

    5. Re: Just when I lost hope. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At least get an SE

  4. Re: I HATE /. BULLIES like ZIP & c6gunner... a by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've heard APK is so mad at ZIP, he's about to give up, stop spamming about hosts, and leave Slashdot.

  5. Excuse me? by Fly+Swatter · · Score: 2

    for the affordable phone market. The price is expected to be around $400-500.

    1. Re:Excuse me? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Google should be selling a $200 phone with guaranteed updates. That seems to be the right price point for performance per dollar and affordability.

    2. Re:Excuse me? by markdavis · · Score: 5, Insightful

      >"for the affordable phone market. The price is expected to be around $400-500."

      Yeah, wow. I bought my perfectly fine, UNLOCKED Moto G5 Plus from Costco last year for $189 (and now it just upgraded itself to Android 8.1!). AND it has a headphone jack (along with SD card, fingerprint sensor, decent cameras, etc). And now the Moto G6 is going on sale at Costco soon for around that same price.

      Since after the Nexus 5, Google has completely forgotten what "reasonable" or "affordable" means. I can't believe people spend over a thousand dollars on a stupid phone now.

    3. Re:Excuse me? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In Australia the new iphones *start* at $1799 (1.3k usd)... for 1 sim, no memory cards and needing to buy headphones. Yea nah.

    4. Re:Excuse me? by Zumbs · · Score: 1

      and now it just upgraded itself to Android 8.1

      Thanks a bunch! I had totally missed the update waiting for me.

      Like you I am pretty satisfied with the Moto G5 Plus. The main hardware feature I'm missing would be a better low-light camera, but I suspect that is a problem most (all?) phone cameras are missing.

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    5. Re:Excuse me? by Zumbs · · Score: 1

      problem -> feature

      Sorry about the language goof.

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    6. Re:Excuse me? by TAz00 · · Score: 1

      Specs sound exactly like my 3 year old Nexus 5X, only this time it's 50-100$ more expensive.... what the fuck??

  6. Why on earth... by SuperKendall · · Score: 0, Troll

    Why would you want to be stuck with the ADC built into a mid-range phone?

    I guess if you only ever spend $15 on ear buds that may be fine.

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    1. Re:Why on earth... by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why would you NOT want to be “stuck” with a phone which doesn’t require extra dongles and overpriced, easily lost earbuds?

      I’m sure podcasts sound extra great through the $170 wireless ear buds, though.

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    2. Re:Why on earth... by markdavis · · Score: 3, Insightful

      >"Why would you NOT want to be âoestuckâ with a phone which doesnâ(TM)t require extra dongles and overpriced, easily lost earbuds?"

      I think you misread what he said. He wants a reason to leave the iPhone 6. And was contemplating switching to the Pixel but didn't bother, because they removed the headphone jack.

      My point on all this is that somehow a headphone jack is cast into the "lite" or "cheap" or non-high-end category now. Just like wanting a phone that isn't GIANT meant you automatically wanted a "budget" phone with slow processor, paltry memory, etc.

    3. Re:Why on earth... by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      Because he's not using it for input, he's not digitizing analog signals? (ADC - Analog to Digital Converter).

      Now, if you mean the mid-range DAC - Digital to Analog Converter - then that's not as big of an issue. The DACs in most phones are pretty good, it's the amplifier stage after them that sucks, typically. So an external amp is a good thing and significantly improves the audio quality.

      And in pretty much all cases, the DAC and amp in a cell phone is better than Bluetooth, unless you're talking about AptX HD or LDAC. Of course, he has an iPhone right now, and it does not support AptX HD or LDAC, so you're limited to pretty poor 320 kbps Bluetooth. Or using the Lightning Audio Module (a midrange DAC/amp module from Apple). Or use a camera Lightning adapter so you can use an outboard decent DAC on your iPhone.

      But then, DSD, high res WAV and FLAC, and other high-res formats are difficult if not impossible on iOS, whereas they are natively supported in Android. If you really care about audio quality in a phone, the iPhones are way down the list...

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    4. Re:Why on earth... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Look everybody! It's an idiot who thinks there is any noticeable difference in quality between different DACs in the past 15 years. Probably also stupid enough to think anyone needs playback higher than 16-bit/44kHz, thinks DACs output "stairstep" sound waves, and has no understanding of the Nyquist–Shannon sampling theorem. Must be an Apple user.

    5. Re:Why on earth... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's partly based on SuperKendoll's idea that the DAC in a pair of AirPods is somehow superior to the "cheap" DACs found everywhere else. Kinda like selling someone a "premium" HDMI cable promising better picture quality than the cheaper cables. It's a sales pitch that works on people with no real understanding of the underlying technology and need only believe that Apple is always the best.

    6. Re:Why on earth... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why are you such an insufferable cunt?

    7. Re:Why on earth... by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

      Apple zealots have been that way going all the way back into the mid 1980s. It's why nerds have always despised Apple fans.

    8. Re:Why on earth... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OMG and those iairpods are stupid looking too boot.

    9. Re:Why on earth... by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      The DAC (not ADC!) in the phone is almost certainly superior to the super shitty little DACs in the earbuds. Thought everybody knew that, oh right Apple manufactures its own facts.

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    10. Re:Why on earth... by goose-incarnated · · Score: 1

      Why would you want to be stuck with the ADC built into a mid-range phone?

      I guess if you only ever spend $15 on ear buds that may be fine.

      The ADC is gotta go somewhere; having it in the phone is the technologically superior option.

      Not a great way to broadcast your conspicuous consumption using overpriced accessories, but still a superios technological solution.

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    11. Re:Why on earth... by trawg · · Score: 1

      When they pair properly. And the batteries aren't flat. And there's no interference. And you can get through their interface to actually turn them on.

    12. Re: Why on earth... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      As someone who worked on mobile phone audio chip design, I can tell you that even the cheapest DAC (not ADC, you don't know what you're talking about) will not be the limitation, but the headset itself will be.
      Of course, the phone maker can mess up a lot with crappy board design, hence all the phones that have worse performance in terms of channel separation and THD when tested with earphones compared to when tested with high impedance audio inputs.
      And if you think the DACs inside a crappy dongle would be better, you don't get how Apple makes money. It's similarly cheap, people just have to believe it's good. And you do. Hence it's good enough.

    13. Re:Why on earth... by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      You pretty much nailed it. I mainly use the headphone jack to connect the phone to other devices like my stereos in the truck or car because radio sucks. Or into the small speaker system I keep in the bathroom for shower time. I rarely use headphones on my phone. Also i'm partially deaf so sound quality is not my biggest gripe when it comes to shit like this. However pops and whistles(Seriously its 2018 why does this still happen) piss me off. And audio cutting out. I don't know if its because of the phone case but I've had issue where while using bluetooth to play audio through a small speaker hanging off of one side of my body with the phone in the pocket on the opposite side of my body, the audio will cut out occasionally for a second or so. Super frustrating especially if you're trying to talk to somebody while doing something.

    14. Re:Why on earth... by swillden · · Score: 1

      I guess if you only ever spend $15 on ear buds that may be fine.

      Meh. I use these. $20. They sound fine. Great battery life, too. And wireless >> wired. Wires are a PITA.

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    15. Re:Why on earth... by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      I truly despise Apple as a company, and the majority of their products suck. The ONLY good piece of hardware they have made IMO is the iphone. And the removal of the headphone jack destroyed that. Now they are back where they were 10 years ago in my book. And seeing as I'm me and not anybody else. I couldn't give a shit less if *other* people think they are gods gift to electronics.

  7. Two years! by Teckla · · Score: 2

    I bet it'll come with two whole years of updates!

    Two years!!!

    1. Re:Two years! by markdavis · · Score: 1

      >"I bet it'll come with two whole years of updates! Two years!!!"

      Yeah, like the unlocked Moto G5, which cost $189 at Costco and just updated to 8.1... 2 years is just around the corner. Not bad for less than half the price.

      I do take it you were being sarcastic about the 2 years, and I agree. It is hard to believe that 2 years is considered exceptional... to me, that should be a bare minimum, not something to be proud of.

    2. Re:Two years! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Three years now, actually. For OS versions as well as security patches.

      https://www.androidpolice.com/2017/10/19/google-says-pixel-2-will-receive-three-years-software-updates/

    3. Re:Two years! by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      It's weird... My Pixel XL reached the end of the feature update period in September, but for some reason failed to brick itself. Even stranger it keeps getting updates, including security fixes and apps.

      Someone must be asleep at the wheel because it hasn't even been hacked and added to a botnet yet. My personal data remains unstolen.

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    4. Re:Two years! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Major OS updates? Yes. That's acceptable. But it'll also receive security updates for much much longer. That's standard for all but no-name-company phones.

    5. Re:Two years! by swillden · · Score: 1

      I bet it'll come with two whole years of updates!

      Two years!!!

      I'm sure it'll be three years, same as the other Pixel 3s.

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    6. Re:Two years! by swillden · · Score: 1

      Major OS updates? Yes. That's acceptable. But it'll also receive security updates for much much longer. That's standard for all but no-name-company phones.

      I wish it were standard. It's not. Unfortunately, it's much better than the standard, which is no commitment to updates at all.

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    7. Re:Two years! by Teckla · · Score: 1

      Wow, a whole three years.

    8. Re: Two years! by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

      I can beat that. I am typing this on the precursor of the pixel ... A Nexus 6P. I just got an 8.1 notification this morning lol.

      But I will say the battery already has been replaced and it is randomly restarting but it is 2.5 years old

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    9. Re:Two years! by afidel · · Score: 1

      Funny you should mention the XL, still no November security update for the OG Pixel or the Pixel XL, at this rate I'm thinking they're just skipping it and will roll it up with the December update. Pretty sad when Google with only 8 models to support can't reliably update their phones (6 models after this month, 6P and 5x just got their final update unless something changes, which seems unlikely). Oh, and they don't provide security updates if you don't update your phone to the newest OS, was stuck without security updates for 3 months this year because I didn't want to update to Pie because of the charging bug. OverallI'm underwhelmed by Googles support on the Pixel line, pretty sure I'm going to try OP now that they support Verizon, though if Samsung would give us official support for remapping the stupid Bixby button I'd probably go with an S9+ or Note 9.

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    10. Re:Two years! by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Are there any pending security updates for the Pixel/XL? Maybe there just aren't any at the moment.

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    11. Re: Two years! by afidel · · Score: 1

      To answer your question, just got the November updates this morning, no idea what took nearly a month, though I guess I'm good they actually QA their patches, unlike MS of late.

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  8. Re: I HATE /. BULLIES like ZIP & c6gunner... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yay!

  9. Re: I HATE /. BULLIES like ZIP & c6gunner... a by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Shut the fuck up. Just shut it. You are certifiable crazy. You proudly display your stupidity *every* time you post. Nobody here is going to buy your shitty software simply because you are a nutcase.

  10. Re: I HATE /. BULLIES like ZIP & c6gunner... a by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Op is a fag

  11. Great news by trawg · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If this has the camera features of the pixel 3 (even if it doesn't have as good a lens) this is almost certainly my next phone - if it has a Nexus price point. I've avoided the z
    Pixel line so far but am super impressed with my partner's Pixel 3, but hate the price tag and lack of headphone jack.

    If they put an SD card and removable battery in this it'd be even better of course.

    All hinges on the price point though for me! I'm on a Nexus 5X which is feeling a bit dated.

    1. Re:Great news by Stormwatch · · Score: 0

      If you care about photo quality, forget phones, get a real camera!

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    2. Re:Great news by jareth-0205 · · Score: 1

      From what I've read it has the same hardware / software for the camera as the 3 / 3XL, so this could easily be a good compromise. I don't need the latest most awesomest phone but having had a Pixel 2, I'd really struggle to give up the camera.

    3. Re:Great news by jareth-0205 · · Score: 2

      If you care about photo quality, forget phones, get a real camera!

      Absolutely. But the best camera in the world is no use if you don't have it with you - which is going to be most of the time. I always have my phone though... If you care about photography during all the times you're not carrying your dedicated device, then yes you should also be getting the best photography phone that you can.

    4. Re:Great news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've been saying this for decades but I don't think it's actually true any more. Availability of the powerful photo processing algorithms and the processing power to execute them in basically real time has made a lot of arguments no longer valid. It's true that a small lens and a tiny sensor can't match the S/N or dynamic range of a large sensor but when you can do rapid multi exposure stacking the sensor quality becomes completely irrelevant in most shooting situations. My $300 phone produces - out of the box - better handheld low-light photos than my Canon dSLR with a fast prime lens, and that's without OIS. You can still get better photos from a large sensor but it's no longer just a question of knowing how but also spending A LOT more time processing each photo.

    5. Re:Great news by trawg · · Score: 1

      I have a Canon 50D SLR and lenses and am about to upgrade to a 5D. But I don't carry it everywhere. The quality of the latest gen phone cameras is simply stunning for casual use.

  12. Re: IMPERSONATING ME AGAIN? apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have done better and everyone here agrees.

    I also never impersonated you. You owe me an apology for your baseless false accusations.

    ZIP

    P.S. => my decades long career is all the proof needed for my skills. Reverse engineering Host File Engine proves you are hugely inflating your skills.

  13. Yes DAC, but you forgot about AAC - and ALAC by SuperKendall · · Score: 1, Informative

    unless you're talking about AptX HD or LDAC...

    Or AAC streamed directly to supporting devices, which is what AirPods and some Beats headsets use.

    Glad to help you learn something today!

    But then, DSD, high res WAV and FLAC, and other high-res formats are difficult if not impossible on iOS

    You can use apps like VLC to play FLAC quite easily - or you can use Apple Lossless, ALAC.

    Were you not aware iOS supported applications that might use other codecs? Or that Apple has had a losses codec for some time? How odd.

    The difference between Android and IOS being that on iOS, I could choose to use either FLAC or ALAC - on Android I could only choose FLAC. Why people support platforms with less choice is beyond me.

    So correction, I got to help you learn TWO things today!

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    1. Re:Yes DAC, but you forgot about AAC - and ALAC by Baloroth · · Score: 3, Informative

      The difference between Android and IOS being that on iOS, I could choose to use either FLAC or ALAC - on Android I could only choose FLAC.

      Or ALAC, if you want (since libavcodec supports it), because open-source technology is cool like that.

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    2. Re:Yes DAC, but you forgot about AAC - and ALAC by ArchieBunker · · Score: 1

      Yeah you're really worried about fidelity when that DAC is right next to a bluetooth transceiver and likely next to a switching power supply. Do you get cleaner power from the batteries when you charge them through a $2000 lightning cable?

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    3. Re:Yes DAC, but you forgot about AAC - and ALAC by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      Yeah you're really worried about fidelity when that DAC is right next to a bluetooth transceiver and likely next to a switching power supply.

      Meanwhile people complaining about having to use bluetooth are listening over $15 earbuds or maybe a $40 set that has more markup because of gold plastic than anything else.

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    4. Re:Yes DAC, but you forgot about AAC - and ALAC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, Android has also supported Vorbis for the past 10+ years. Yet another format Apple doesn't support. No one except idiots who bought garbage on iShitTunes gives a damn about ALAC, which is inferior to FLAC.

    5. Re:Yes DAC, but you forgot about AAC - and ALAC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You still don't get it. Headphone jack + Bluetooth gives you the most options and the best of everything. If wireless is your thing, Bluetooth is the way to go.... and that's just about the only advantage. If the highest audio quality and ZERO LATENCY are your thing, the headphone jack is always ready to go. Apple fucked you and many other headset makers have followed suit, not to improve the phone or audio experience in any way, but to slightly cut costs and in Apple's case to slowly nudge people into using their proprietary AirBud crap.

    6. Re: Yes DAC, but you forgot about AAC - and ALAC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Latency? Because your ears are chatting with the phone? Moron

    7. Re: Yes DAC, but you forgot about AAC - and ALAC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Now all your movies can look like they were badly dubbed from the original chinese!
      Get that "going live via sattelite" feel when chatting to your friends!
      Bluetooth!

    8. Re:Yes DAC, but you forgot about AAC - and ALAC by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      Fewer choices, not less. Nice for you to learn something today.

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    9. Re: Yes DAC, but you forgot about AAC - and ALAC by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      Actually, I may be deaf, but I am latency sensitive.. I can definitely tell when I'm trying to control things through a bluetooth connection. Also phone conversations have enough latency no need to add 500ms more.

    10. Re:Yes DAC, but you forgot about AAC - and ALAC by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      Agreed, All my music comes free with my internet connection in any format I choose.

  14. Must for my next phone... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    -Removable 3500mah battery
    -dedicated expandible memory
    -dedicated dual sims slots
    -HD
    -True USB-C
    -5G
    -audio jack

    Else I am staying with my current phone until it dies or I die or phone company closes and I used it as offline notepad.

  15. i'm extremely confused why you would pay money by cats-paw · · Score: 0

    for google anything.

    there whole business model is made off of your personal information.

    you're literally giving them money to invade your privacy...

    really, i don't get it.

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    1. Re:i'm extremely confused why you would pay money by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

      I would bet it's no more difficult to never log onto Google on this phone than it is on any other Android device. You don't need to log on with a Google account. There are alternative app stores and the phone will be fine and usable without ever logging into Google on it.

      You'll want to not be a gmail user, of course, but that should go without saying, if you're google-shy.

  16. won't beat nokia 6.1 plus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    32GB, snapdragon 610? NO way anyone buys it for $400 when Nokia 6.1 plus with carl zeiss lens is half the price.

  17. Stop goddamn assuming the jack is for the 'poors' by AbRASiON · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm sick of the features I want, being relegated to the 'basic' phones, with the assumption that only the 'basic users' need them.

    Try and offer 2 identical premium phones but with variations like headphone jack or curved non curved.

    Samsung? Hello, I want your top of the line phones. I do NOT IN ANY WAY want them with curved screens, therefore, I assume you don't want me to buy your phones.

    Google? Hi, I'm not fully into your phones, but you've _ensured_ I won't try them, without headphone jacks.

    Huawei, I'm considering that new Mate 20 phone, it sounds half decent. Why the @#% (!!!) does the non pro phone, which has a nice FLAT screen, have to be IPS and not OLED? Having gotten used to OLED on a phone, especially in bed / dark rooms, why would you make a pretty damn premium phone and put IPS in it? When your pro model of the same phone is curved / oled but without a headphone jack.

    I spent 3 hours not more than 24 hours ago and as someone who used to be a phone junkie, I had issues with every single phone I found.

    Seriously, would someone just copy the Note 5 or 4 but put in a top of the line processor, nicer camera and a USB-C socket? I'll pay an extra $200 at this point.

  18. Bravery by TimMD909 · · Score: 2

    Glad to see they were brave enough to include a headphone jack. Good for them for taking that risk.

    1. Re:Bravery by Luthair · · Score: 1

      And no notch, that took courage.

  19. I loved the Nexus lines by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They were solid phones, competed with (but rarely won) with the top high end phones, but were priced in the mid-range category. Last I purcased was a Nexus 5 (ok, I bought 4 of them, a couple for family and 2 for myself). I know quite a few other people on this train as well - simple phones, stock android, good mod support, great cameras, and enhanced google storage.

    When Pixel was released, it was a much better phone with extreme pricing, and I switched to the Moto G5+. I cracked my screen recently and need to replace my phone. I really like the reviews for the night mode camera on Pixel 3 but that price.........

    Google, if you're listening, and you make this at a €400 price point or lower, I promise at least 4 purchases for myself and family and can pretty much guarantee at least 5 others from people I know who would jump on this. Killing services and privacy problems lately has been blunting my love of Google but this would help in no small way....

    Reduce the screen resolution a bit and put in a better 1920x screen, will lower cost, battery drain and who cares, its a phone-sized screen.

  20. Re:Stop goddamn assuming the jack is for the 'poor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You sound poor.

  21. Re:Stop goddamn assuming the jack is for the 'poor by Stormwatch · · Score: 1

    OLED has durability issues, you know.

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  22. Stop calling 600 EUR phones "affordable" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    When you come down to 200 EUR, then you can start calling phones "budget" and "affordable".

    This phone will be less capable than the 150 EUR Xiaomi A2 Lite, and still cost 4 times as much. If you've got more money than sense, then Google would like to do business with you.

  23. Re:Stop goddamn assuming the jack is for the 'poor by AbRASiON · · Score: 1

    It does, but it takes a lot of it use for that. I'm literally on my 5th OLED phone.

  24. Re:Stop goddamn assuming the jack is for the 'poor by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

    OLEDs are hard to manufacture.

    Apple pretty much bought up the supply of OLED screen manufacturing equipment for years to ensure Samsung could actually make enough (the iPhone X pretty much trumped Samsung's normal OLED production for their high end phones, so Apple had to ensure Samsung had at least double the equipment. And we're talking about something that is produced in single quantities per year - the manufacturer Samsung's equipment comes from makes at most 2 machines a year.)

    Tiny monochrome OLEDs are one thing but the big nice ones just aren't manufactured in significant quantities - Samsung has enough on their plate with Galaxy and iPhone screen production, we've seen LG (another big OLED manufacturer) have issues - seems LG can make OLEDs in the 50+" size scale, but their small screens generally... suck.

  25. Who is building it for them? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    If it's LG or HTC, #donotwant

    Only incompetents want to build phones for Google, everyone else can sell phones with their own names on them

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    1. Re:Who is building it for them? by afidel · · Score: 1

      It'll be made by Foxconn just like the Pixel 3/XL.

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  26. Re:Stop goddamn assuming the jack is for the 'poor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > I'm sick of the features I want, being relegated to the 'basic' phones, with the assumption that only the 'basic users' need them.

    Where does it say that?

  27. IMPERSONATING ME AGAIN? apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Zach Paterson/ZIP + c6gunner 'Greatest Hits': "I'm a much better programmer than APK" - by Anonymous Coward ZIP on Monday October 08, 2018 @11:27PM (#57449082)

    BIG TALK - ZIP has no programs to show as proof.

    I do https://news.slashdot.org/comm...

    (From registered /.ers liking/using/praising my work + 100k users worldwide)

    ZIP tried to take credit for what I solved before him https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...

    He codes? He can't EVEN READ!

    I show 2 ways to do it YOURSELF https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... - he can't.

    Delphi/FreePascal/ObjectPascal HAS no null-term'd string bufferoverflows https://developers.slashdot.or... - C does, C++ can UNLESS you do what I said 1st.

    He likes CODE SIGNING (it's been STOLEN & ABUSED) https://www.helpnetsecurity.co...

    MY METHOD CAN'T BE (upmodded +2 INTERESTING in CODING FOR DEFCON) https://it.slashdot.org/commen...

    ZIP says he has no /. acct "I don't have an account so I don't have mod points" https://news.slashdot.org/comm...

    Yet ZIP says he downmods me (IMPOSSIBLE w/ no /. acct.): "I down-modded a few of your post" - by Anonymous Coward "ZIP" on Thursday October 11, 2018 @11:31AM (#57461058)

    APK

    P.S.=> KEEP IMPERSONATING ME like https://science.slashdot.org/c... (I'd never say that OR bitch to do-NOTHING "ne'er-do-wells" like ZIP OR c6gunner https://linux.slashdot.org/com... (he 1st mocked me & impersonated me TWISTING /.ers words & after that, I FAIRLY challenged him to show HE DID BETTER & that was his response (weak))!

    Above EXPOSES your BLOWHARD incompetence... apk

  28. Re: Stop goddamn assuming the jack is for the 'poo by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

    Look up pocophone. Every Indian I know swears by them. Liquid cooling, headphone jack, dust resistant, and a snap dragon 845 for $399.

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  29. Re: I HATE /. BULLIES like ZIP & c6gunner... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Most of the APK posts are fake. I'm not sure who is doing it.

    ZIP

  30. too expensive by sad_ · · Score: 1

    with those specs, you can find them on phones way cheaper, even with Android One.

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    1. Re:too expensive by ennis99 · · Score: 1

      Personally I could not invest in a "Lite" phone that contains a slow process and no input for wired headphones. I find it a shame to have designed a phone similar to the new iPhones. Especially for the input of headphones. Quality wireless headphones are really expensive. https://downloader.vip/the-pir... https://downloader.vip/yify-yt... https://downloader.vip/rarbg/

  31. Re:Stop goddamn assuming the jack is for the 'poor by Stormwatch · · Score: 1

    I'm literally on my 5th OLED phone.

    So you change phones pretty often, right? But people who want to make the most of the investment won't change them so often, so they will encounter those issues. Maybe it's intentional, a kind of planned obsolescence.

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