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Michael Bloomberg Donates Record $1.8 Billion To Johns Hopkins University; Donation Will Be Devoted Exclusively To Undergraduate Financial Aid (go.com)

Former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg is giving $1.8 billion to Johns Hopkins University. The gift is believed to be the largest ever to an academic institution. The money is earmarked for scholarships and grants for undergraduate students from low and middle-income families, Mr. Bloomberg, 76, said through a press release. The gift will enable Johns Hopkins to become one of just a handful of need-blind schools -- meaning students will be considered for admission regardless of their ability to pay. Currently, 44% of Johns Hopkins students graduate with some form of debt averaging $24,000. From a report: As a direct result of the endowment, Johns Hopkins will be able to permanently commit to "need-blind admissions," which will admit the highest-achieving students from all backgrounds, regardless of their ability to pay, according to the university. In addition, the Baltimore-based school will be able to offer no-loan financial aid packages, reduce contributions for families who qualify for financial aid, provide "comprehensive student support," and increase the enrollment of Pell grant eligible students, which will "build a more socioeconomically diverse student body," Johns Hopkins said in a statement. In an op-ed published in The New York Times, Bloomberg wrote: America is at its best when we reward people based on the quality of their work, not the size of their pocketbook. Denying students entry to a college based on their ability to pay undermines equal opportunity. It perpetuates intergenerational poverty. And it strikes at the heart of the American dream: the idea that every person, from every community, has the chance to rise based on merit.

I was lucky: My father was a bookkeeper who never made more than $6,000 a year. But I was able to afford Johns Hopkins University through a National Defense student loan, and by holding down a job on campus. My Hopkins diploma opened up doors that otherwise would have been closed, and allowed me to live the American dream. I have always been grateful for that opportunity. I gave my first donation to Hopkins the year after I graduated: $5. It was all I could afford. Since then, I've given the school $1.5 billion to support research, teaching and financial aid.

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  1. USA your education system is broken by johnjones · · Score: 3, Interesting

    if you cant admit students regardless of their ability to pay otherwise known as NORMAL

    1. Re:USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Sorry, we're not interested in socialism. Thank you for asking, tho.

    2. Re:USA your education system is broken by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Informative

      Sorry, we're not interested in socialism.

      The data suggests otherwise.

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    3. Re:USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Hope they don't do a 'Cooper Union' and blow it all on new luxury buildings and gambling in hedge funds.

    4. Re: USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Good things done by people in the other tribe = virtual signaling

    5. Re:USA your education system is broken by alvinrod · · Score: 3, Informative

      You're welcome to go work for the college at a reduced rate so that they can lower their costs. I'm guessing that whatever company you work for admits or maintains customers on the basis of their ability to pay.

      The line from the summary indicating that "Currently, 44% of Johns Hopkins students graduate with some form of debt averaging $24,000" which assuming that it's saying the other 56% graduate with no debt at all, would suggest that students who attend that college graduate with significantly less debt on average than students at most other universities.

      If the U.S. education system is broken it is precisely because it will gladly loan anyone money to go to college regardless of their likelihood of being successful there, the ability for their degree to allow them to earn a living or pay back their loan, or any other sensible metric. Given the surprising number of college students who cannot even pass the high-school level math courses necessary to take college algebra, I suspect that these loans are being given to people who have no real understanding of compound interest or who have given any thoughts as to how their degree might enable a career. It is morally reprehensible to shackle young people with a debt that they cannot discharge through bankruptcy.

    6. Re: USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Except you have socialism? How ignorant are you?

      Also itâ(TM)s implemented so poorly that you spend way more than other nations for way less.

    7. Re:USA your education system is broken by alvinrod · · Score: 1

      If college loans were handled like anything else, where there was a possibility of default, then lenders would be forced to evaluate where students want to attend and what majors they wanted to pursue. I expect that the net effect would be fewer people majoring in some form of underwater basket weaving. Similarly, students might take their college experience a little more seriously if they learned that receiving additional loans was contingent on doing well in their classes.

      For those who truly are coming from nothing and can't get any bank to lend you money, the U.S. armed services will gladly pay for a college education. Not only that, they'll likely give you some practical real world experience along the way. Better yet, ignore college entirely and go to a trade school, or even failing all of that, get a job and start building up some financial capital. There are a large number of jobs in the U.S. that require no college education of any form, and life is much easier if you don't have a staggering loan debt with payments that will constitute a significant percentage of your monthly expenses for many years to come.

    8. Re:USA your education system is broken by NicknameUnavailable · · Score: 2

      If college loans were handled like anything else, where there was a possibility of default, then...

      If that were the case you'd have to include the degree (and probably a means of having them blacklisted from relevant industries) with the bankruptcy because recent college grads are poor and have no incentive to not file bankruptcy. They could easily just take out loans, get their diploma, file bankruptcy, and start their career, so they all would.

    9. Re: USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      If college loans were handled like anything else, where there was a possibility of default, then lenders would be forced to evaluate where students want to attend and what majors they wanted to pursue. I expect that the net effect would be fewer people majoring in some form of underwater basket weaving.

      Basket weaving is actually a useful skill though, with legitimate practical applications. You're relying too much on an established meme for your arguments to be sustained.

      Similarly, students might take their college experience a little more seriously if they learned that receiving additional loans was contingent on doing well in their classes.

      Those are the people who end up stressing themselves out and dying.

      For those who truly are coming from nothing and can't get any bank to lend you money, the U.S. armed services will gladly pay for a college education. Not only that, they'll likely give you some practical real world experience along the way.

      Or they'll expose you to toxic substances, conveniently blame your speculated sexuality to scapegoat you for the misconduct of a contractor, ruin your life over their own mistakes, and abandon you in your time of need.

      Better yet, ignore college entirely and go to a trade school, or even failing all of that, get a job and start building up some financial capital. There are a large number of jobs in the U.S. that require no college education of any form, and life is much easier if you don't have a staggering loan debt with payments that will constitute a significant percentage of your monthly expenses for many years to come.

      I'm honestly surprised you didn't recommend getting to Clown College.

    10. Re:USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      For those who truly are coming from nothing and can't get any bank to lend you money, the U.S. armed services will gladly pay for a college education. Not only that, they'll likely give you some practical real world experience along the way.

      Like learning how to kill people. Yep, that's definitely for me. It's funny, btw, that you're so quick to suggest the US armed services as a means to a college education. Isn't that a sort of socialism? Or is socialism okay as long as it potentially includes killing foreigners?

    11. Re:USA your education system is broken by quonset · · Score: 1

      it will gladly loan anyone money to go to college regardless of their likelihood of being successful there, the ability for their degree to allow them to earn a living or pay back their loan, or any other sensible metric.

      And yet, college can offer so much including reduction in crime and poverty.

      That college costs so much despite universities sitting on billions of dollars in endowments might be a better area to look at.

      However, that Bloomberg is following in Harris Rosen's footsteps seems like a good thing.

    12. Re:USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      I don't mind rich guys making a show out of doing a big donation, or engaging in feel good rich man's hobbies. It beats them using their money to buy political favors or spread misinformation that furthers their goals. Better Bloomberg and Gates than Soros.

      How about the Koch brothers? They buy political favors and spread misinformation, but you're all "meh, don't care."

      Ohhhhh, I get it. The Kochs aren't jewish. And they're on the "right" side.

      Soros is one millimeter to the left of center – politically – and he's jewish, so that makes him a bad guy when he donates to Dem candidates.

      And you don't care who Bloomberg and Gates donate to because they're not donating to Dems. Or Republicans, but mostly that they're not donating to Dems.

      Just callin' it like I see it.

    13. Re:USA your education system is broken by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Why I mentioned Soros? The guy bet against the UK Pound, then dumped assloads of that currency to get it to tank... he made about a billion dollars in that little stunt. Enough for me to question his motives when he meddles in EU politics. The Kochs are probably as bad (perhaps worse) but they get plenty of negative press (in mainstream publications, not just crackpot blogs), and there's plenty of commentary on what they are doing. In contrast, everybody seems to love Soros. EU politicians decry the US practice of rich people buying political influence, but they'd kill for a lunch date with Soros. He does have lunch with the top EU dogs... behind closed doors, and who knows what is being discussed there. I can well understand why Hungary wants to curb his influence in that country and shut down his education and "free press" initiatives. And no, the guy being Jewish has fuck all to do with all that. Nor the fact that he's left leaning. I don't trust his motives, but he is not the only one with suspect motives or undue influence. What scares me about him is that there's zero pushback against his influence from the people who are usually very critical about whom they associate with.

      Also, as a European, I care very little about Dems and Reps and who donates to them.

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    14. Re:USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      So if we as a society decide to offer free education to the worthy, somehow millions of people will die?
      How is that supposed work again?

    15. Re: USA your education system is broken by mermeid007 · · Score: 1

      I enjoy imagining all the gloating going on

    16. Re:USA your education system is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Sorry, we're not interested in socialism.

      The data suggests otherwise.

      Haven't you socialists killed enough people? Nearly 100 million just in the last century. How many failures does it take before you "get it right"?

      Its astounding to me that despite all the evidence of the amazing success of capitalism that people can still stand there stubbornly insisting they deserve other peoples money. Every single one of your arguments crumble to dust the second anyone asks, "How do you intend to pay for it?"

      Name the "people" who have been killed by socialism? Now there's an argument that crumbles to dust.

      Just for you and you alone: we're going to take away the highway system, airports, fire departments, schools, paved streets, police departments, etc., etc., etc. Somehow we manage to pay for those things – for the common good – with everyone's money.

      Oh wait, you actually want those things? I guess it's okay in your book when they're the things you want. But when they're things you don't want, then you drag out your <<<socialism>>> boogeyman.

      We've had socialism for a long time. You just don't want to see it.

    17. Re:USA your education system is broken by alvinrod · · Score: 1

      Someone also has to maintain the Jeeps, cool the meals, and all manner of other tasks that might allow someone to earn a living. There are some people who are blessed with a brain that lets them be a programmer or engineer, but even if they are and are so descriminated against that they can’t get any other funding, the army won’t turn down talent. Also, the army won’t accept the absolute bottom who are incapable. Read up about McNamara’s 100,000.

      And yes it’s publically funded. It’s one of the few things the constitution actually says the government is allowed to do. I think our armed forces are larger than they need to be, but if you don’t rely on voluntary participants that means conscription. Some countries do this and I’m not sure it’s entirely bad, but that’s another argument. However there’s nothing “free” about that education and if you’re signing up to die for your country (or the misguided fools who run it) then I don’t mind paying for it. Really, they should get more for what many of them give up. At least the Roman senators made their sons commanders.

      But if you think all the military teaches you is to kill, you’re sadly misinformed. If that’s what ours did and practiced, no one would be talking about overpopulation.

    18. Re:USA your education system is broken by SimonInOz · · Score: 1

      Quite a number of countries in the world offer university study for low or zero fees. Germany, Sweden, the Netherlands. These countries are of similar levels of wealth to USA.
      USA has made a choice to make higher education (and medicine, but that's another, sadder, story) a source of profit. This is a choice - many think it a poor choice.
      It means that student of lesser means, regardless of their ability, do not have the opportunity to study at top universities.

      This is a choice of the USA political system. And a fairly recent choice - USA degrees used to be affordable, but now they are not - students end up saddled with high debts. What has changed?

      Many countries, certainly UK and Australia, do leave students with debts, and paying them back is fairly painful - but not bankrupting.

      USA, supposedly the land of opportunity, has chosen not to make that opportunity available to all. All in the pursuit of the almighty dollar.

      What has happened to you?

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    19. Re: USA your education system is broken by c6gunner · · Score: 1

      Yes, they're called a "public works" or "works programs".

      No, it's not, but even if it were ... that's not what "socialism" means. Apparently you're not the only idiot confused about the meaning of the word though, since the original retard is sitting at +3 right now.

    20. Re: USA your education system is broken by FuzzyDaddy2 · · Score: 2

      We just want free college and single payer health care. But damn it, no socialism! https://www.reuters.com/invest.... (Scroll to end)

    21. Re:USA your education system is broken by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      You're welcome to go work for the college at a reduced rate so that they can lower their costs. I'm guessing that whatever company you work for admits or maintains customers on the basis of their ability to pay.

      Most countries subsidise their education systems, because they realize that they need educated workers to survive in the future.

      If that sounds too much like socialism for you, consider this. Do you want to be treated by the best doctor, or the one who could afford to go to medical school?

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    22. Re:USA your education system is broken by mrvan · · Score: 2

      If the U.S. education system is broken it is precisely because it will gladly loan anyone money to go to college regardless of their likelihood of being successful there, the ability for their degree to allow them to earn a living or pay back their loan, or any other sensible metric.

      As a corollary, tuition has gone up to a level that is nonsensical for the purposes of education. In the Netherlands the real cost of university is about 10k euro per year (of which the taxpayer pays about 80%), depending on study programme (bachelors are cheaper than masters because of scale; medicine is more expensive than history; etc). Now, the global top-10 universiteit are not in the Netherlands, but a number of Dutch universities are in the top-100.

      10k a year is something you can save for, or even something you can earn on the side if you are OK with working hard. 60k a year for 3-4 years is not something you can save for as a young person, and not something you can earn waiting tables next to your study. So (unless you have a rich parent) your choices as loans or financial aid.

      Of course, what you are paying for is exclusivity, brand name recognition, and an elite network. These might be worth those kinds of sums, especially if you have dreams of grandeur; but if your ambition is a happy middle class life I think going into 6 figure debt is not going to be worth it.

    23. Re:USA your education system is broken by mrvan · · Score: 1

      Quite a number of countries in the world offer university study for low or zero fees. Germany, Sweden, the Netherlands. These countries are of similar levels of wealth to USA.

      Note that for the Netherlands, fees are only "low" (2k a year) for EU students. Non-EU students are not subsidized and pay full fees (determined by the institution rather than the government). This is generally around 10k a year, so still low by US standards, but shockingly high by German standards...

    24. Re: USA your education system is broken by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      Uhh.. He did...

    25. Re:USA your education system is broken by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1

      You're welcome to go work for the college at a reduced rate so that they can lower their costs. I'm guessing that whatever company you work for admits or maintains customers on the basis of their ability to pay.

      Now now, you know that they want someone else to pay for it.

      That's the part that they never get - that goods and services actually have to come from somewhere.

    26. Re: USA your education system is broken by c6gunner · · Score: 1

      Oh, and thanks for calling me a retard. It's good evidence I'm right.

      Yep, retards are always right. Especially when they're arguing that it doesn't really matter what words mean.

    27. Re: USA your education system is broken by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      Hey, at least he's using his money for something good that most people can agree with in the US, rather than trying to force his anti 2A views and try to strip gun rights away from people in states that want to keep them.

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    28. Re:USA your education system is broken by geek · · Score: 1

      Socialism is the economic component of Communism you dumb fuck.

    29. Re: USA your education system is broken by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      No, it's not, but even if it were ... that's not what "socialism" means.

      One of the hallmarks of real-world socialism was full employment (the the attendant criminalization of unemployment), but that often involved something effectively equal to "distributed" public works, in forms of make-work jobs and systemic inefficiencies in state companies.

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  2. Obvious next step? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The school will now probably start charging higher tuition fees.

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  3. That's nice and all by rsilvergun · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Now how about we restore the lost federal and state funding that was cut by this country's right wing politicians (from both parties, Yes, I'm calling out the Clinton Democrats here too)?

    I like my schools to be independent, not begging for scraps from billionaires.

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    1. Re:That's nice and all by gtall · · Score: 1

      While I applaud the sentiment for restoring lost federal and state money, Johns Hopkins is a private institution.

      Just restoring state funding (I don't believe the federal government supports unis directly, just through research grants and such), won't solve the problem that state unis have expanded their bureaucracy. I don't know of any solution to that except whacking the unis and restarting. That can not work either because rebuilding a uni doesn't just happen because you declare it to be so.

      An additional problem is that a fair number of pols don't believe in science, or the humanities, or the arts, or engineering. Different groups in both major parties oppose these for various reasons with the biggest reason "ignorance". They are stupid and do not like smart people telling them to stop talking out of their asses about things they know nothing about.

    2. Re:That's nice and all by alvinrod · · Score: 2

      If the colleges would cut the useless administrative bloat (see The Changing of the Guard: The Political Economy of Administrative Bloat in American Higher Education) that they've acquired, I suspect that government funding could even be decreased further. Tax payers are uninterested in funding the expensive adult daycare that college has become for a large number of students.

      If the government would get out of the student loan business, this problem would likely become self-correcting.

  4. Well I guess we now know who won... by 3seas · · Score: 2

    ...the 1.6 billion $ lottery

  5. Wrong answer by sunking2 · · Score: 1, Troll

    All this does is encourage prices to continue to go up, even more so than student loans.

  6. In usa just about any one can get a student loan by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 2

    In usa just about any one can get a student loan even at schools like trump-u

  7. Re:Need-blind admissions by bug_hunter · · Score: 2

    Do we need admissions to be that blind?

    What about somebody who gets 90% on their tests but their parents fund them and pay for a private tutor vs
    A person who gets 80% on their tests but also works two jobs to cover living expenses and fees?

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  8. True but he's giving up that much cash by rsilvergun · · Score: 1, Interesting

    because he perceives a lack of available education. At least in theory. Restoring the state funding would go a lot further to fixing that.

    Read the article I linked to. Very little of the increased cost of education is because of increased overhead. It's almost all down to decreased funding from the fed/state.

    And there's nothing special about those "pols" (?, do you mean proletariat?). Taken in aggregate poor folks aren't any dumber than rich folks. What you're seeing is people with limited information who are doing bad economically looking for a solution and billionaire's media outlets (Fox News, Sinclair Media, Right wing Talk Radio) pushing a plausitive narrative.

    If you want folks to stop falling for that snake oil the solution is more education. During the 2016 campaign there were interviews with folks making good money off fake news to drive page views and ads. It was almost 100% right wing fake news and when asked the folks running the sites were candid about why: when they tried left wing fake news it got shot down as B.S. in no time. That's not because right wing folks are dumber, it's because left wing folks have generally had more education and education teaches critical thinking.

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    1. Re:True but he's giving up that much cash by alvinrod · · Score: 2, Informative

      The article you linked to makes a terrible mistake in that it looks at funding per student instead of the overall cost. I'd suggest this article in the NY Times which does a good job of explaining the flaws in the reasoning in the article you've presented. I'd link to other articles, but you have a tendency of dismissing the source without bothering to read it so you get the Times, which if you could successfully dismiss as "right wing" would constitute such an amazing display of mental gymnastics that even the fucking Russian judge would have to give you a 10.

  9. Re:Price matters a lot by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

    The problem is that the education bureaucracies are like sponges. Pouring more money in just causes them to spend more on their own purposes. Which often are only tangential to undergrad education.

  10. The left figured that out ages ago by rsilvergun · · Score: 3, Informative

    Clinton Democrats OTOH did not.

    Folks keep mixing up the right wing of the Democratic party with the left. They are not.

    For example, Nancy Pelosi is not a member of the left. The actual left is currently trying to oust her from her speakership, and they tried to primary her but she had so much cash she buried her primary challenger.

    Listen to Bernie. To Liz Warren. To Ro Khanna. They're the left, and they're trying to unite the working class for better pay, universal, guaranteed as a right healthcare, clean air and water and worker's rights.

    You're right about the Clinton Democrats though. They behave like the GOP 90% of the time, so the only thing they've got to run on is phony social issues. Like the actual GOP all they've got is identity politics and fat sacks of cash from their donors. Don't fall for it. There's a real left, and they're the party of the working class.

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  11. You would suspect that by rsilvergun · · Score: 1, Interesting

    but you're suspicions are incorrect. Best case scenario useless bloat drops the price of college 10%, see article I linked to above.

    And tax payers should either start funding it or start supporting Hilary Clinton's open borders. Otherwise we're not going to have the workers needed to keep your 401k solvent in time for you to retire. Like it or not those adults need economic growth in order to maintain their quality of life. Without an educated population we're not gonna have that growth. Say good by to Social Security and Medicare too. And say hello to Purina Brand Dog chow for dinner in your 60s.

    I'm just kidding, you think you'll be able to afford the name brand stuff?

    Oh, and get ready for the Gulags. See, what do you suppose is going to happen when you have tens of millions of unemployable men in their 20s and 30s who can't balance an equation but can hold a rifle?

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  12. Donations as Fuel by SaBumNim · · Score: 2

    What stops Johns Hopkins from raising their tuition on incoming students by the interest on the endowment (or more)? This would leave students exactly where they were, which the market has proven it would bear. After all, they have to maintain their competitive position...

  13. This money would be much better spent by melted · · Score: 1

    This money would be much better spent on bribing politicians in congress to solve this problem legislatively. Same as with healthcare, if there's no upper bound on how much money can be wasted on administration, underwater basketweaving courses that produce solely McDonalds employees, "organic" caffes, facilities, etc, then there will be no upper bound on tuition. Put an upper bound on administrative expenses at the very least in state schools, and possibly in private ones as well. Refocus higher ed on actual education rather than activism. Put structures in place under which companies would find it attractive to fund higher ed for in-demand professions in exchange to access to top talent pool universities produce. Stuff like that. Be creative. Just giving them $1.8B is pointless and temporary.

  14. Re:Need-blind admissions by AHuxley · · Score: 1

    Having "two jobs" is not an academic skill.
    Why should a person who put in the effort not get a place on merit?
    They sit exams and tests, worked hard and know how to study?
    Should a university fill up with students who get "80%" but get allowed in for reasons other than merit?
    75%? 65%? How low can that academic side slide to cover for a "person" who "works two jobs"?

    What happens when a student who can't/won't study gets into face the tests and exams a year or two into university?
    They cant study, cant pass their exams, take keep up with the students who can study?
    Give them a free pass so they as a "works two jobs" person can stay on campus for free for a few more years to learn how to study?
    What about all the students who did not get accepted but had great study skills? Who had a "private tutor" and would have done really well?
    Attempts like that got made in the US mil under Project 100,000 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... .
    All the US mil had to do was find people to look after the people who would have failed to enter the mil under normal testing.

    Filling up the best US universities with people who cant study will not result in better graduates.
    Keeping people who can study out on the best universities for people who cant study wont improve US wide academic results.

    A skilled person should be ready to study and not be getting 80% after years of education before university.
    A university can only accept so many people on campus every year. Select on merit who are the best in their generation.
    Not the people who cant study after many years of trying.

    Getting 90% shows a bit more ability to study. The ability to study more for years.

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  15. Ways to spend $1.8 on education by myid · · Score: 1

    Here are some other ways to spend $1.8 billion on education:

    1) Set up low-cost schools that teach people basic school skills, such as basic math, science, and grammar. (Don't forget the people who need help in these areas.)

    2) Set up schools that concentrate in one area - for example, music, auto repair, or STEM. One of these STEM schools doesn't teach PE or women's studies. It just teaches STEM classes. These schools wouldn't force you to take classes unrelated to your major.

    3) In these schools, make sure that the teacher does a thorough job of grading your homework. For example if you turn in code, the teacher should check whether your code is efficient, well-structured, etc.

    4) Buy the rights to outstanding educational books, an then distribute the books freely online.

    5) For books with outstanding authors (people who explain things well), if the author is willing to do so, set up a website for each book. Pay the author to answer questions that were sent in by people who read that book. (This is an alternative way to learn.)

    6) Pay researchers to find out how universities have been spending their money for each of the last 25 years (to show the trends), and publicize the findings. Taxpayers might ask, "My tax money has been spent for that?!" That might help bring down the tuition prices.

    7) Pay for this project: Ask thousands of hiring managers to write some questions and answers (which will be peer-reviewed). Ask the manager to categorize the questions (ex: Java / beginning / inheritance). Collect the questions and answers into a database. Then if a company is willing to consider hiring a self-taught entry-level Java programmer employee, the company can use beginning Java questions in the database to test the job applicant. If you're self-taught, then you can prove what you know by the projects that you did, and by passing the test.

    8) To encourage employers to hire student interns, pay part of the interns' salaries. (A student job really helps you see what the "real world" is like. Also, the student and employer get a chance to check each other out.)

    9) Remember, not everyone want to go into IT. Some people prefer to drive trucks, or to be a professional cook. Remember to set up truck-driving schools and cooking schools.

    10) Also remember that the basic goal is not helping the student to go to a particular school. The basic goal is to teach the student. If the student can learn in ways other than by going to the particular school (ex: by individual study), then fine. Let's help the student do individual study.

  16. Re:In usa just about any one can get a student loa by alvinrod · · Score: 1

    That’s exactly the problem. It’s hardly any surprise that predatory organizations like that crop up when there’s easy money on the table.

  17. all of this by sad_ · · Score: 1

    wouldn't it be great this would be available for everybody all the time?

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    On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
  18. You're welcome by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1

    You're welcome :)

    (What's that you say? The posts here are not expressing simple gratitude? ;) )