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Valve Quietly Discontinues Steam Link Hardware Production (arstechnica.com)

Valve is quietly discontinuing Steam Link, the in-home streaming box it first launched in late 2015. From a report: A low-key announcement on Valve's Steam Link news page suggests that production of new units has ceased and that Valve is currently selling off the rest of its "almost sold out" inventory in the US, after selling out completely in Europe. Valve says it will continue to offer support for existing Steam Link hardware.

The $50 Steam Link was designed for streaming games from a local gaming PC to an HDTV in the same house, a job it did pretty well provided your networking hardware was up to it. In recent months, though, Valve has shifted its focus away from dedicated streaming hardware and toward mobile apps that can provide the same feature.

74 comments

  1. not a bad item by sakono · · Score: 1

    I haven't had many issues. most of the issues I have had are based on my pc having a issue running the game I'm trying or steam not wanting to go into big screen mode. I also make sure the steam link and my pc are hooked up via network cable and not wifi.

    1. Re:not a bad item by GoTeam · · Score: 1

      Thanks for giving us an idea of what your experience has been. I always wondered if that box would really work as expected. I would think switching to mobile device streaming from a PC would be more problematic. I don't get paid to develop these products, so my opinion probably doesn't matter much.

    2. Re:not a bad item by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My PC is fine, my network is very high SNR (I'm in the country and the only device on 5 GHz is my PC - steam link) and Wi-Fi is till terrible. It's what ruined it for me. I'm trying to get away from cables.

    3. Re:not a bad item by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps it would work with 5GHz wifi and H265 codec but there is more potential for issues than a plain CAT5 or 5e cable.
      But "mobile app" reads as "Android app" to me, this doesn't have to be mobile nor wireless.

    4. Re:not a bad item by kobaz · · Score: 2

      Steam link is really cool. It works very well, and it's a nice way to basically remote desktop to your pc and you can watch movies on netflix and stuff like that.

      Soooo with the hardware going away... How will we connect usb controllers to a mobile app?

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    5. Re:not a bad item by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It works pretty much flawlessly with games that are optimized for a gamepad - like platformers, casual "racing" games etc.
      My kids have spent countless hours playing all the Lego games, Ori and the Blind Forest, Rocket League, Cuphead, and various less known games.

      A wired ethernet connection is a must of course.

    6. Re:not a bad item by bgrahambo · · Score: 1

      I can confirm that it works great on 5GHz wifi. Even 2.4GHz works if you're ok with a little more lag and nobody's running the microwave.

    7. Re:not a bad item by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I haven't had many issues. most of the issues I have had are based on my pc having a issue running the game I'm trying or steam not wanting to go into big screen mode. I also make sure the steam link and my pc are hooked up via network cable and not wifi.

      Interesting, I've been trying to figure out how to get one of my PC displays mirrored to my TV so I can sit in my recliner with wireless keyboard and mouse.

      I don't even need game streaming speeds since I don't game.

      Sounds like I'm finding out about this a little too late.

    8. Re:not a bad item by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      USB-C male to USB-A female converter. Works pretty well in my experience.

    9. Re:not a bad item by darkain · · Score: 1

      BlueTooth, like many wireless controllers already are, and that work on mobile devices today.

    10. Re:not a bad item by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I run steam streaming over 5G wifi through a 7 year old macbook. works like a dream.. been playing No Man's Sky, Dead Space and FF XIII at 720p .. Looks glorious, doesn't skip.. Totally awesome! .. Was going to get a steam link until i realized even my crappy old macbook could do it. Love it. Finally playing all the 'sofa/controller' PC games I have been ignoring cuz I don't like playing them at my desk.

    11. Re:not a bad item by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 1

      My problem was that when someone in the house used the steam link, they left it in big picture mode and trying to get it out of big picture mode was always less than obvious.

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    12. Re:not a bad item by tepples · · Score: 1

      BlueTooth, like many wireless controllers already are, and that work on mobile devices today.

      Until Google changes Android's Bluetooth stack, causing it to cease to work with the controllers you own. For example, changes in Android 4.2 made the "Wiimote Controller" app stop working with "No route to host" error.

    13. Re:not a bad item by DamnOregonian · · Score: 1

      It works wonderfully. I've used mine for a little over a year. My game PC sits behind the couch. I will echo what he said about ethernet connectivity, though.
      I can stream games over wifi to my laptop, but the Link doesn't appear good at this. I grabbed a MoCA adapter and attached it that way.
      I'm not holding my breath, but I'm hoping they decide to build another. Steam In-Home streaming is a lot less annoying than nVidia's GameStream.

    14. Re:not a bad item by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No Man's Sky, Dead Space and FF XIII

      Oh wow - someone actually plays these games.

    15. Re:not a bad item by Scarletdown · · Score: 1

      That sounds similar to how I have a pair of Win7 boxes connected to two of my 55" TV's HDMI ports for gaming and watching video (VLC, Netflix, YouTube, and watchcartoononline). Star Trek Online, Champions, and Guild Wars 2 look quite nice on the big screen (though I haven't played any games in months); and City of Titans will be fantastic with this setup.

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    16. Re:not a bad item by dissy · · Score: 2

      Soooo with the hardware going away... How will we connect usb controllers to a mobile app?

      I haven't used the steam link mobile app replacement, however I have used moonlight which works with the NVidia streaming protocol for the same purpose.

      Being at the video card level instead of the steam client level, you can stream anything on your pc to it. It's open source and cross platform as well.

      The linux and windows versions of the client can stream back any input devices you plug into them.
      The Android/iOS clients use a crappy on-screen game pad, but you can turn that off and just pair a game pad directly to the computer you're streaming from, at least in the same home. I never tried using it over the Internet.

      The last time I used it was to play fallout 4 on an ipad with a bluetooth controller from the living room, with my pc in the room almost directly above. ymmv

    17. Re:not a bad item by Archfeld · · Score: 1

      Samsung has an app called SmartView that runs on Android, Windows, and iOS and pipes the contents of that device directly to a Samsung TV. I use it occasionally and it works fine for YouTube and such but I've not tried it with a video game or anything that complex. Of course you have to have a Samsung TV...

      https://www.samsung.com/us/app...

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    18. Re:not a bad item by GoTeam · · Score: 1

      Thanks, that's good to know!

    19. Re:not a bad item by yodleboy · · Score: 2

      Mine works really well, sad to see it discontinued. I got mine for $22 on sale. So long as you have a wired local network connection, it's rock solid, even with newer games. Kind of iffy for me on wi-fi, and my router is only 10 feet away with clear line of sight. Only issue I run into, are games that don't support a controller. I suppose a steam controller would address a lot of those.
       
      My opinion is to buy one if you've been considering it before they disappear.

    20. Re:not a bad item by Gojira+Shipi-Taro · · Score: 1

      Once again, Samsung with a "Me-too" service that nobody asked for.

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    21. Re:not a bad item by Archfeld · · Score: 1

      I use it all the time, though you are correct I did not ask for it. The smart TV in the great room has the Amazon and Netflix apps loaded. On the other hand I just plug my lap top into the HDMI port on the dumb screen in my den and it works the same way so I get my Amazon and Netflix via the in-house network without have to run too many cables into the wall, or needing a separate unit. My house is Yuma is on a slab and has no attic.

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    22. Re:not a bad item by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Moonlight is what I use. I see no reason to try any proprietary, bloatware Steam garbage.

  2. That's a shame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I brought two, both really cheap when on sale. One in the living room and one in the bedroom. It's nice to play from the bed or sofa as I would a console.

  3. Shifted Focus by Luthair · · Score: 1

    seems like dumb editorializing by the author as streaming to a mobile device isn't the same use case, and further Samsung also embeds steam streaming in a number of their televisions.

    It would be more cost effective for Valve to simply have an image for Raspberry Pi, known hardware and cheap. While more technically difficult than a dedicated device we are talking about PC gamers who likely have a bit of aptitude

    1. Re:Shifted Focus by fodder69 · · Score: 1

      Better yet, partner with Roku and/or Plex and let them worry about it. The Roku already does Bluetooth so hardware wise it can do the same thing as the link.

    2. Re:Shifted Focus by DarkRookie2 · · Score: 2

      Ahh. Plex
      The same company that wouldn't let me view my library without creating a Plex account first.
      Also, they release something that they would say would replace WinAMP, which was rightfully completely shitted on since it was everything but.

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    3. Re:Shifted Focus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Plex is great, and you're telling us more about you than about Plex.

  4. Has worked great for me by fodder69 · · Score: 1

    Works really well for me to play console type games on my couch. But the whole Steam Link app seems a bit ridiculous, mobile games are for killing time when out and about, not for playing on my couch (at least not for me...).

    The idea of it running on the Samsung TV is cool but not interested in a new TV and if I did it most likely wouldn't be a Samsung. Wake me up when there is a Roku app.

    1. Re:Has worked great for me by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 2

      Everyone who says it works well for them gets modded down. Weird.

    2. Re:Has worked great for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Everyone who says it works well for them gets modded down. Weird.

      Where? I checked every single post in this story at the time of your post, and none of them have any down mods. Are you perhaps talking about some earlier Steam Link story?

    3. Re:Has worked great for me by Desler · · Score: 1

      No they haven't. Not weird.

    4. Re:Has worked great for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I had one to use over WiFi. I UNDERSTAND LATENCY WON'T BE PERFECT. My steam link was hopelessly unstable. I would constantly (like several times per hour) have to get up and manually unplug it to hard reboot the Link. Everyone (both real life friends and people on forums) just said "use a cable". Well, I bought it to do WiFi! "WiFi sucks for gaming." Ad infinium. I understood that wifi wouldn't perform well. I didn't think it would be hopelessly broken. I imagine I'm not the only one who found this frustrating. If you can just drag a cable, why not just buy a damn video cable and run that directly to the monitor!?

    5. Re:Has worked great for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My Samsung 4K tv is 2 years old and supports steam link.

    6. Re:Has worked great for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your mom's new titties are two years old as well. I fuck the shit out of them.

    7. Re: Has worked great for me by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1

      Yes, they had, at the time I had posted. Each comment that said it wasn't had was at one point, not the two that logged in users normally get. So yes, weird.

    8. Re:Has worked great for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, I've got the app installed, even on 802.11AC it sucks even for games that translate to the small screen, most games however do not translate well to a screen that small. I found more use for the app as a way to pull a remote desktop instance from the phone by launching a game that has a settings window that opens before the game launches, thus allowing you to leave Steam on the app and have full control of the machine from the phone.

  5. Did anyone else get it with ICEY? by DarkRookie2 · · Score: 1

    The Link has been in my closet ever since. Have never used it. TV is to close to the computer, so I ran an HDMI cable.

    They were running a promotion for these with that game.
    Buy the game and get it for $1 plus shipping.
    Honestly bought it for the game. Which turned out to be complete shit. A metroidvania style game that had a great look, great animation, and good audio,
    Too bad it was a shitty narration game with a boring narrator.

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    1. Re:Did anyone else get it with ICEY? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 2

      Axiom Verge is a pretty good metroidvania style game.

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    2. Re:Did anyone else get it with ICEY? by DarkRookie2 · · Score: 1

      Looked into that one.
      I just do not like pixel art games like that.

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    3. Re:Did anyone else get it with ICEY? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      It's not a metroidvania style game, but if you do not like pixel art games, don't even look at Kingdom: New Lands.

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    4. Re:Did anyone else get it with ICEY? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I also won't look at creimer's shit-encrusted asshole.

    5. Re:Did anyone else get it with ICEY? by tepples · · Score: 1

      TV is to close to the computer, so I ran an HDMI cable.

      Not everybody's living quarters are arranged that way. For many, perhaps most, the desktop PC and the television are in separate rooms.

      • "No PC in my living room, thanks" --ratbag
      • "I'm not putting together a living room PC rig just for one game, and I'm not lugging my desktop between rooms or stringing destructive ground-loop-ridden HDMI cables around the house so I can play a game on my PC on my [big TV] in my living room." --adolf
      • "Nobody wants to attach their PC to their TV" --kamapuaa
      • "Who wants a computer in their living room?" --avandesande
    6. Re:Did anyone else get it with ICEY? by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      While I agree that not everyone wants a PC in their living room, it can actually work out of the better. I got a small form factor Dell Optiplex for $150 from ebay and it's now the primary device I use on my TV for everything. It can run Netflix, Youtube, play off any streaming website. I can watch downloaded movies. I have Plex installed so there's a nice interface for all my locally stored content. You can run emulators for old game systems. You can use it for steamlink. You can play DVDs on it. You could upgrade the optical drive and play BluRays if you wanted to. You could basically run all your stuff off a single PC and it doesn't take up any more space than a cable box.

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    7. Re:Did anyone else get it with ICEY? by DarkRookie2 · · Score: 1

      I know.
      I was pointing out that I bought it (for really no reason beyond I wanted it), and have left it in my closet for at least a year I think.

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    8. Re:Did anyone else get it with ICEY? by Chrontius · · Score: 1

      You're not playing it right - the narrator is utterly hilarious when you start to piss him off.

  6. Works well for gaming and RDC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It has always worked well for me. I notice when playing graphic intense games such as Destiny 2 or anything like that there is a slight lag you can tell even when running off Ethernet cable. The 2D and indie games usually all work well unless it is a platformer that requires precise input timing like Celeste.

    Gaming is only half of what I use it for, the other half I use it as a cheap way to use my T.V. in the living room to RDC into my computer. The Steam Link has a few USB slots that can be used for a keyboard/mouse combo and I can use my PC from the living room to do anything not just play games.

    I picked it up when it was on sale for $19.99 and at that price point I've gotten more than my money's worth out of it.

  7. We use Steam Link frequently by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We use the Steam Link frequently. It works great for getting games like JackBox 2, JackBox 3, etc. from a PC upstairs to the big TV connected to the stereo speakers downstairs in front of the couches. With a game like JackBox you often have 6 or 8 people playing and more watching so it would be ridiculous to just stand in front of a PC. But with Steam Link connected to our 65" main TV and just a USB based controller plugged into the Steam Link - woohoo! I guess they just didn't sell enough of them to keep the company interested in it. From the posts here most people who use them are happy with them.

    1. Re:We use Steam Link frequently by mccalli · · Score: 1

      Another happy voice - used it for years without issue, connecting to a dual-booted Mac (yep...) running Windows for gaming in the study down through an old HomePlug connection.

      Had very few issues - the main one I noticed is that often you'd want to make sure the game had been run at least once, or you could get into odd resolution-switching scenarios when various component installers popped up out of nowhere. But yep - worked fine and paired with a Steam Controller I got a lot of use out of that box.

  8. It's a nice product by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

    I got one for free when I bought a Steam controller. I'm not so impressed with the controller, but I use the Link all the time and it works a treat.

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    1. Re:It's a nice product by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Damn shame about the Steam controller. It's so comfortable to hold, even better than the 360/One controllers, but those trackpads, yuck. I've tried it with about every genre and nothing really clicked for me.

  9. I got one when they were under $10. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's pretty good, but I rarely use it, because I have a PC in the same room.

  10. Quietly Discontinues by Dan+East · · Score: 4

    "Quietly Discontinues"? What were they supposed to do, spend a quarter million on a full page ad in the New York Times announcing it? They announced it through their normal channels. What more were they supposed to do exactly?

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    1. Re:Quietly Discontinues by complete+loony · · Score: 1

      Moving from one project to another, without bothering with support & maintenance, is exactly what valve have always done.

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  11. linux fails again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    nuff said

  12. Own both steam link and steam controllers by kaoshin · · Score: 2

    I bought the Steam link for two reasons. First, I have multiple people in my home who stream games. Given that requirement and how inexpensive the Steam link was, I would have otherwise needed to spend money on a Nvidia shield, or on HDMI/USB extenders, or on a crappy PC to do Steam in-home streaming to, etc. Second, it has first class support for the Steam controller which we prefer for playing games which don't have proper controller support. We are planning to use ours until they break, and when they do will probably go with one of the other alternatives I just mentioned, depending on what looks to be the best option when that time comes. The steam link is easily replaceable. I will on the other hand, be really sad when I can't find a replacement for my Steam controller. And as an off-topic thought this also reminds me of, I still haven't forgiven Logitech for discontinuing the G400/MX518.

    1. Re:Own both steam link and steam controllers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I still haven't forgiven Logitech for discontinuing the G400/MX518.

      Maybe you can forgive them now: https://www.logitechg.com/zh-hk/products/gaming-mice/mx518-gaming-mouse.html

      It's coming back as MX 518 Legendary

    2. Re:Own both steam link and steam controllers by kaoshin · · Score: 1

      I'll forgive them when they release the legendary so I can actually order it, and if it turns out not to be a piece of garbage. To be fair, it looks really nice though.

  13. Quick! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Buy up the rest and then resell them at a much higher price.

    Now's your chance!

  14. Starting to think by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Valve is a company that struck accidental gold with it's distribution platform, but otherwise is totally rudderless and unfocused.

    They seem to love to embrace new ideas, push it to production, and just as rapidly drop idea entirely in favor of the next pet project.

  15. new revision by halofan_sd · · Score: 1

    could it be a new revision is coming? 4k support for one

  16. Shame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's a bad move. It's a great bit of kit, easy to use, literally got up and running in minutes and playing with a controller on a big TV downstairs (connected via Ethernet and TPLink Powerline Networking at about 800Mbps)

    Well worth the investment - unless there's a real motivator, I won't get a console. PC is a Ryzen 2600 with 16GB and 1070 run everything in my Steam library (300+ activated games) , I have a boatload I have not even activated - thanks Humble Bundle!

    Unless there's a real motivator, my console gaming stopped at X360.

  17. Maybe they could open-source it? by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 1

    If they don't want to build it, maybe they might chose to open-source the hardware?

    Does anyone know: Are there any ASICs in it, or is it stock hardware parts and a firmware load?

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    1. Re:Maybe they could open-source it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      +1 this!

      High-performance video streaming device that hooks up to a TV with a game controller attached to it? I'm in!

    2. Re:Maybe they could open-source it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does anyone know: Are there any ASICs in it, or is it stock hardware parts and a firmware load?

      Or better yet, release an app or an image for Raspberry Pi...

    3. Re:Maybe they could open-source it? by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 1

      Does anyone know: Are there any ASICs in it, or is it stock hardware parts and a firmware load?

      Or better yet, release an app or an image for Raspberry Pi...

      Or BOTH! B-)

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  18. It is $2.50 Again by hirschma · · Score: 1

    Just for fun, clicked on an old link... and it's on super clearance again.

    https://store.steampowered.com...

    Beat the rush!

    1. Re:It is $2.50 Again by yodleboy · · Score: 1

      I just ordered one as a spare. For $2.50, why not? Sucks about the $7.99 shipping...

  19. No stream for you by DigiShaman · · Score: 0

    FU Steam, for not letting me stream between subnets. You won't LET ME SPECIFY an IP address. FUCK YOU, I should be allowed to to setup my LAN and subnet route it all I want. Fuckers! You and your proprietary auto-discovery bullshit can shove it!

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  20. Valve, watta company they are! by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

    A company that started out as a game developer, then put DRM on it, then switched to being a pure DRM distributor.

    I'm so glad there are alternatives.

  21. you guys serious? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow, are all those positive opinions posted by some marketing bots? There is a lot of issues with that box. I stopped using mine because it was not reliable at all and if it happen to work from time to time it, eventually, stoped during gameplay and spoiled all the fun. I was playing a lot with the network settings but without success. I've accepted slight lag and compromised video quality but if transmission just freezes - sometimes after 2 minutes, sometimes after 30 it is super frustrating. There is a lot of evidence on forums, e,g, on Steam forum, proving that people have a lot of problems with it. One might think that this is wifi issues, but it appears that a lot of people suffer from the same on the cable.

    1. Re: you guys serious? by LubosD · · Score: 1

      I second this. My experience with Steam Link has been nothing but a nightmare. Maybe it was caused by me running Steam on Linux or by using 2160p as the desktop resolution, but it has always required me getting up from the couch and sorting things out at the desktop. And the problems didn't get solved. Last time I tried it with games that used to work well in the past, it failed horribly. So thumbs down to Valve for selling me a broken product.

    2. Re: you guys serious? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I second this. My experience with Steam Link has been nothing but a nightmare.

      Maybe it was caused by me running Steam on Linux or by using 2160p as the desktop resolution, but it has always required me getting up from the couch and sorting things out at the desktop.

      And the problems didn't get solved. Last time I tried it with games that used to work well in the past, it failed horribly.

      So thumbs down to Valve for selling me a broken product.

      It is the 2160p and possibly if you are running it over wifi, I am running it on Linux only and never have an issue with it streaming over GBit over Cat-6 cables has no latency issues at all.