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What Happens After Surprising DNA Test Results? (bloombergquint.com)
schwit1 shared an interesting article from Bloomberg:
Though genetic tests are frequently marketed as family-friendly entertainment, they sometimes wind up surfacing life-altering surprises. And when those surprises show up in someone's test results, the first move is often a call to customer service.... At 23andMe, those types of calls are so frequent that preparing for them is integrated into the company's months-long training program.... "We always try to steer the conversation toward the data, tell them that this is science," said Kent Hillyer, head of customer care for the genetic-testing firm 23andMe...
Lindsay Grove, a customer-care representative at 23andMe, still remembers one call in particular years later, a dad who took the test only to find out that his child was not, in fact, his child. At first, like most, he was just trying to figure out whether the results were accurate. So Grove explained the science behind the data. The customer then became somber and quiet. He questioned whether he should talk to his wife, and, if he did, how.... "That process of figuring out what to do next is very difficult for customers...."
Such emotional calls can take a toll on employees, too. That's perhaps inevitable when technology interfaces with such sensitive, personal information.... At 23andMe, Hillyer often encourages representatives to go for a walk after an intense call, or cracks open a bottle of wine to help them decompress. "We kind of do these internal therapy sessions,'' he said. "Here, maybe more so than most places, you have to be really supportive of each other."
Lindsay Grove, a customer-care representative at 23andMe, still remembers one call in particular years later, a dad who took the test only to find out that his child was not, in fact, his child. At first, like most, he was just trying to figure out whether the results were accurate. So Grove explained the science behind the data. The customer then became somber and quiet. He questioned whether he should talk to his wife, and, if he did, how.... "That process of figuring out what to do next is very difficult for customers...."
Such emotional calls can take a toll on employees, too. That's perhaps inevitable when technology interfaces with such sensitive, personal information.... At 23andMe, Hillyer often encourages representatives to go for a walk after an intense call, or cracks open a bottle of wine to help them decompress. "We kind of do these internal therapy sessions,'' he said. "Here, maybe more so than most places, you have to be really supportive of each other."
Do they deal with law enforcement?
Some white supremacists discover they are not quite _that_ white.
are all the white supremacists finding out they're made up of 30-40% some kind of dark skinned folks they've decided to hate. It's been a bit of a problem in their community since a sizable chunk of their leadership's been forced out by it. Gotta love the way science chips away at all the old crap our species has put up with.
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In case you have forgotten, last year there was a big scandal about 23andme employees adding african ancestry to test results to "screw with the racists": http://www.cracked.com/persona...
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If a dad took the test only to find out whether his child was his or not, then it means that he was suspicious to begin with, so why is the DNA test result surprising?
And where did you here that?
Well, there's spam egg sausage and spam, that's not got much spam in it.
My sister had my dad tested since although we're stereotypically Asian, our family's eyes are slightly rounder. She thought we might have a European ancestor somewhere in our genealogy. The test results came back 50% Hungarian, 40% Scandinavian. The biggest Asian component was 0.6% Japanese. Our best guess is the sample was contaminated, or they accidentally swapped with someone else's sample. But the company insisted they were accurate and that they never made mistakes.
I feel really sorry for people whose lives might be turned upside down by an erroneous test result, because they believe a company which is trying to preserve the marketability of their product by insisting they can't make mistakes. Given that 23andMe claims 5 million users, even a 99.99% accuracy rate means 500 customers were given erroneous results.
What if your kid comes to you as a teenager and just really wants to know the their ancestry. Dad says sure. Results come back and gee, looks like mom cheated and got pregnant. If dad doesn't already know about this, that's a HUGE big deal. I mean, if the wife lied about that, who knows WHAT she is capable of.
Has nothing to do with the daughter really and dad doesn't love daughter any less. Obviously the child is innocent. BBC literally just did a long write up on this topic. Was a decent read but don't be surprised if skeletons come out of the closet. People like to mess around.
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Fraud. Exactly the grounds on which he should also be suing her for damages to cover for any legally mandated monetary award against him to pay for the child, plus whatever damages he feels are appropriate.
Probably the same kind of weird events that happened with Clayton Bigsby.
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She claimed to be native American, and specifically Cherokee.
The test results show that over 99% of her DNA is European. In other words, she's about as white as they come. Very close to the average UK citizen.
The results further indicate that most likely, she had a single great-great-great-great-great-great-grandparent from South America, Central America, or North America.
So 6-10 generations back, one Mexican or whatever. That hardly supports her long-held claim "I'm Cherokee". Notably, after the results, the tribe made it a point to come out and say that as far as they are concerned, she's definitely not Cherokee.
Apparently, more relevantly, she is NOT capable of using a condom.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
Maybe people don't like being lied to. It's not necessarily about the child. Having a child is a big step, and a responsibility that most men take seriously. Is it too much to ask that one doesn't lie to a man about the paternity of their child?
If you really think an error, submit another sample, under a false name if you have to. I saw a journalist submit 2 doggy DAN samples to the same company, along with the (required) photo of the animal. The results for second sample he submitted (with the false photo) came back totally different, and matching the photo, not the original DNA "results." $180 bucks for the two samples gave him a notable news story.
The article you linked to says that in two instances, when those people stated they wanted to make sure they didn't have any "n*gger* blood", 23andme truthfully told them that their level of African ancestory was âless than 1%".
They said they did it to those two racists, and their statement was true.
So your theory proves it. Chelsea Clinton's father really is Webster Hubbell.
I think it's a pretty big assumption to assume we actually like our side's politicians. We just hate/fear theirs even more. (feel free to assume/assign whichever side you prefer to there, it works either way)
Think of it like one of those torture porn Saw type movies. You're being forced to make a choice between having your genitals ripped off with a rusty wire wheel, or your teeth ground out on a stone mill wheel. Or you can vote third party and drill your kneecaps, then get one of the first two options chosen for you anyway.
Do you have a link for this? Google turns up nothing about 23andMe distorting their results in this manner.
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Ah, never mind. I found it. It's an alt-right conspiracy theory, to explain why some people who thought they were Arian turned out not to be.
const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
You fail.
The reference DNA they used for American native is people from Mexico, Peru and Colombia. That's native to the Americas (Western hemisphere), not Native American.
The test shows that most likely, one of her 256 great^8 grandparents were from the Western Hemisphere.
She then said she was Cherokee when applying to things. Do you not see how that is a problem?
In France paternity tests are illegal, so apparently not.
Maybe people don't like being lied to. It's not necessarily about the child. Having a child is a big step, and a responsibility that most men take seriously.
And in some cases, very begrudgingly. Like if you felt this was a colossal fuck-up, but it's your kid so suck it up and be a dad, completely rewrite your plan for life... only to learn you're not actually the dad. Yeah, I can see how that would send someone in a 11/10 rage. I mean it's different if you were totally okay with starting a family and it's the child you wanted but turned out not to be yours. I'd really like to know if there are some statistics on that, like in what percentage of pregnancies was the man expecting a child. Of course sometimes the woman is surprised too and if she doesn't want an abortion it can happen out of the blue, but usually it's just the man "stuck" with an unexpected child. Just because it's something of a surprise pregnancy is not reason to assume your girlfriend is cheating on you.
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Determining your own blood type used to be a standard lab exercise in high school biology classes, 30+ years ago. The biggest reason it isn't any longer is, of course, fear of blood borne infections. A secondary consideration was that a lot of students found out via this exercise that it was impossible for them to have been their parents' biological child. This sometimes caused family drama when the child found out this information and brought it home to his or her parents. The kid was adopted and had never been told, their mother had had an affair, the mother had been pregnant when she got married or gave birth before marriage but the groom wasn't the father, there had been divorce and remarriage before the kid was old enough to remember, etc., etc. All sorts of situations. Years ago I remember casually reading somewhere that the biological father of 1/5 of USAn children was someone other than the person the child called "Dad".
Source, and prisonplanet doesn't count.
So far, not a single person has offered a credible link to that claim, and you've offered no link at all.
Urban legands and conspiracy theories don't qualify as proof.
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If they're faking, damn they're good. Identical results on all markers checked by more than one group.
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I said, "white supremacist". OTOH it says something about the alt-right that when you mention white supremacists folks think of the two together...
What does it says? Except that oft-repeat slurs stick.
My sister had my dad tested since although we're stereotypically Asian, our family's eyes are slightly rounder. She thought we might have a European ancestor somewhere in our genealogy. The test results came back 50% Hungarian, 40% Scandinavian. The biggest Asian component was 0.6% Japanese. Our best guess is the sample was contaminated, or they accidentally swapped with someone else's sample. But the company insisted they were accurate and that they never made mistakes.
You ever heard of Chang and Eng Bunker? They died in 1874. They are where the term "Siamese twins" comes from. Look them up on Wikipedia if you don't know about them. They lived in North Carolina and married a couple of white ladies. Some of their descendants still look Asian almost 150 years later. Most don't. But some do look very Asian. And that's despite years of breeding with white people. I suppose it could really be true what the genetic test said based on that.
Nice ad for 23andme - not sure what else it is.
The only DNA I want to be reading about is Douglas Adams.
Which would give us 42andme - much better.
I know someone who found out their "sister" was actually their mother. It took some time to work out what was going on, but it turned out her biological father raped his daughter long ago, got her pregnant and made her agree to hide it. The victim admitted to this when confronted by her sister/daughter with the genetic test results.
The family is quite freaked out. The old guy is dead but everyone is kind of wrecked right now. There's worse things than finding out your spouse cheated on you. Much worse things.
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Maybe those places should've hired on merit. They can't lie about their race if you don't ask!
She claimed to be native American, and specifically Cherokee.
Incorrect. Elizabeth Warren said that according to family lore, she has a Cherokee ancestor.
The test results show that over 99% of her DNA is European. In other words, she's about as white as they come.
Actually, no it proved that the family lore was legit and she is part Cherokee. Not a lot but some which was the claim all along.
Notably, after the results, the tribe made it a point to come out and say that as far as they are concerned, she's definitely not Cherokee.
She didn't claim to be part of the tribe. Also, they only seemed to be upset after the results were in, not when Individual-1 was making a big deal about it.
Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
It'a obvious from the face Chelsea is Bill's daughter. The real question is does Hillary know Chelsea is not her daughter?
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Right, and no-one thought to screenshot or archive the page, no news articles were written about it, all evidence was effectively and completely scrubbed from the internet.
const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
I've tested with all the major systems (genetic Nerd here) and the results are absolutely compatible ('export' to GEDmatch to compare detail). 23&Me seems to be choosing the 'health' speciality, Ancestry guards its proprietary earnings, FTDNA seems fully professional (and willingly re-tested/confirmed, when I had a query). My surname back to 1700s never matches, and we must accept that 10% of births are 'non-paternity events'. In the old days, that included informal adoption by maternal uncles when genetic parents had both died of the ususal smallpox or TB. Are we so generous now?
Citation needed.
So where are the statements? If you know where they are why not post a link to them, or are we to go to stormfront.org to see an "archived" statement?
Very close to the average UK citizen.
Isn't the average UK citizen nowadays 7% Asian or something like that?
Isn't more like 30% Pakistani? That's what I've heard from some *white* friends
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In many places a cheating woman is killed or at least a pariah while a cheating man is celebrated. In many other places a man can have as many wives as he want, including temporary wives for some sex, while a woman walking outside by herself (even if not exposing any skin which of course is a great crime) can be killed. :(
Yes women have it easy and the poor men takes all the blame.
But then she wouldn't be an idiot, and we would be living in a different reality.
It's all Warren's fault we're living in a reality where Trump has shown us for decades exactly the kind of person he is and still became President
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Then how in the fuck do you know about it?
I have a thing that I believe most people call "memory" and I read a lot of shit on biotech.
Why would anyone expect a company to make a statement, news articles to be written about that statement, then all of the articles and statements to be pulled?
The fact you would assume my sources come from a website like that shows a lot more about your credibility than mine.
How about a totally anonymous test?