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LG Unveils 88-inch 8K TV That Doubles as a Giant Speaker (tomsguide.com)
Last year LG Display unveiled a rollable OLED TV prototype, which is reportedly becoming a real retail product in 2019. This year they're at it again with a giant 8K OLED set that doubles as a speaker and a weird flower sculpture made entirely of the flexible OLED panels. From a report: As TV's get thinner, it's getting harder and harder to produce audio that isn't thin. Enter LG Display's 88-inch Crystal Sound OLED set. It has a 3..2.2 sound system embedded directly into the display. The sounds emanate from the panel itself. And, thanks to Dolby Atmos support, LG Display says that viewers will be able to hear dynamic sound come from their top, bottom, left and right. Sony introduced similar technology on its A8F OLED TV, but that was a 4K set.
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It's actually a Dolby ATMOS numbering system. The front 3 (3) are left/center/right. The next 2 are the subwoofer channels. The last 2 are overhead/ATMOS channels. So a 3 around/2 sub/2 elevation speaker setup would be 3.2.2. If you pair it with a few surrounds for the rear, you'd have a 5.2.2 system.
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Cool, so if I was an idiot with more money in my pocket than brain cells I'd hop right on an 8k TV when barely anyone makes media for 4k.
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Nevermind the pixel count, where is the 8k content for this?
Panel doubling as a speaker surface? Very "creative". Problem is, a vibrating panel will look unclear. Small details smeared out by vibration.
Oh shit .. the LG engineers designed and built an 88 inch TV that doubles as the speaker surface without considering that a vibrating screen might look fuzzy.
Now that you have pointed out the obvious, I'm sure there will be much gnashing of teeth and wailing coming from Seoul as they realize how stupid their engineers are. After all .. who could have predicted such a thing? /s
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Okay -- I'm trying to picture someone who has the kinda of deep pockets to be able to afford an 88", 8k TV set, but who needs to use the internal speakers because they can't afford a proper surround sound receiver and speakers.
Anyone?
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"If you have a 65" TV sitting 5-6 feet away"
Then you are sitting too close? :)
Maybe not for THX specs or something, but for a normal human being / normal living room it is.
That said, I noticed an immense difference in the readability of text on the HTPC/TV setup I use for gaming, when i went from 48" 1080p to 70" 4k. I used to have to frequently move closer to the TV from the couch to read something. Now its crystal clear from the couch. Obviously the larger size is helping a lot with that, but I do think the 4k is a lot crisper too. For video... meh... a good 1080p stream looks perfectly fine to me, and I rarely notice or care that video content is 4k. At least with a 70" set and ~8-10ft away.
And good grud, people, "4K" UHD is virtually indistinguishable from FHD/1080p from across the living room.
Not everyone uses it from across the room. I use a 43 inch 4K UHD TV as my desktop computer monitor. That doesn't work with 1080.
Check out what soundbars do. Check the ATMOS spec. You can put all the channels in the same physical place as long as you can beam-form and steer sound to where it needs to be. Derp, indeed...
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Yes. And they produce a 3.2.2 ATMOS surround experience. That's why it's called what it is. You get 3 front channels, two subwoofer channels, and two elevation channels. All from the speakers in the unit. Just like ATMOS soundbars.
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Do yourself a favor... the next time you have the house to yourself for a few days, take the TV off the wall or cabinet, and move it to a spot that's 5-6 feet in front of wherever you're sitting. If it feels like it's too low, get a $2 concrete block from Home Depot. Ideally, your natural & comfortable gaze should fall slightly below the top of the screen.
I guarantee that you'll never again be satisfied with having the TV far away or hanging high after experiencing it in that position.
The truth is, 90% of people have their TVs in totally wrong places for viewing comfort. Forty years ago, 25" console TVs put the picture tube a few inches above the floor... because it was the most natural, comfortable place to put it. Then, people started putting smaller 19" TVs in stands to raise them up so their top was approximately where the top of a 25" console TV's display would have been. Sometime in the 90s, console TVs went away, TVs gained another two inches, and... stands remained the same height, because stores didn't feel like stocking two different families of stands. And because stores were able to convince people to spend hundreds of dollars on something that's basically four sheets of laminated particleboard with a pressboard back and doors on the front, they weren't about to let people walk out the door without doing their best to sell them the highest-profit item in the entire store.
Fast forward a few more years. CRT TVs grew to 32", and kept growing towards 40"... and the stands remained the same size. By this point, TVs were uncomfortably high... but because "everyone's" TV was that high, people assumed it was somehow desirable. Perversely, this is ALSO when wall units became really popular... many of which jacked the TV up even higher so they could keep the doors symmetrical with the bottom doors in the adjacent units, themselves tall enough to accommodate two rows of books or VHS tapes. In other words, by this point, viewing ergonomics had TOTALLY gone out the door for the sake of storage space and furniture aesthetics.
Then HDTV and DLP arrived... and stores pushed even HARDER to sell stands that were STILL absurdly tall to people buying them, even though most DLP TVs already had 4-10" of height below the screen occupied by the speakers, light engine, etc. People bought plasma TVs, and blindly put them at the same height as TVs that were on stands. Or worse, stuck them in even worse places, like high on a wall above the fireplace (attempting to get some use out of a wall that builders inevitably present as the focal point of a room that REALLY gets 99% used for "viewing television and playing videogames").
The point is, for the past few decades, people have been putting their TVs in the wrong place, for all the wrong reasons. Try putting the TV back where it belongs -- near the floor -- and you'll see firsthand how much nicer it is to watch in that position.
As TV's get thinner, it's getting harder and harder to produce audio that isn't thin.
No. As it has been forever, you get the best sound by using real hifi speakers, not the toy ones that come with TVs.
There needs to be a point where the screen resolution is high enough where any improvement wouldn't add to the experience. Where then we could use the ever increasing bandwidth for more useful data, vs sending pixels that we will not see.
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'readability of text on the HTPC/TV setup I use for gaming '
Kodi was never a problem.
But for *gaming* the bigger + 4k made a big difference. As I've got my old 660Ti in the PC, I still usually run games at 1920x1080.
I've mostly switched video watching from the HTPC from Kodi to Plex on a Roku. (I got the Roku mostly because I was sick of the shitty Netflix experience on the PC and the netflix app on the smartTV was flaky too. The roku has been virtually perfect.)
"The truth is" people are watching stuff on mobile devices and tablets as much as tv's... they have no concept of audio and video quality.