Slashdot Mirror


Windows 10 Will Reserve 7GB of Your Computer's Storage in its Next Major Release So That Big Updates Don't Fail (zdnet.com)

In the next major release of Windows 10, Microsoft will reserve 7GB of your device's storage to resolve a Windows 10 bug thrown up by Windows Update not checking whether a PC has enough storage space before launching after big updates. From a report: As Microsoft warned ahead of the Windows 10 October 2018 Update, systems that don't have enough space to install Microsoft's 'quality updates' or new versions of the OS will see an error message explaining there is insufficient storage space. That happens because Windows doesn't check if a device has enough space before initializing. Microsoft's current solution is for users to manually delete unnecessary temporary files and temporarily move important files like photos and videos to external storage devices to make enough space for the update. This problem is more acute for devices with little storage capacity, such as many of the cheap 32GB flash-drive PCs on the market today.

17 of 368 comments (clear)

  1. Re:No they won't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I spend 30% of my time maintaining Windows machines.

  2. Trying to create a more stupid user by brxndxn · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As a computer enthusiast since the DOS days, I so much hate Microsoft's Windows 10 philosophy. Every move they make is one where Microsoft attempts to chip away at a user's ownership of his or her computer. Microsoft creates a new problem by taking away a user setting - like deciding exactly when he or she has the time to update the computer or their work is sufficiently at a stopping point to risk an update. In doing so, Microsoft introduces a whole host of new issues such as temporarily bricking users' devices, rebooting in the middle of their work, running the hard disk full, or causing updates to run when a user really needs to get out of the office. Then, in order to fix the problem they created, they take more control away from the user and allocate unusable user space just for Microsoft to have extra space for more bloated updates.

    The paranoid part of me doesn't believe Microsoft is doing this to fix the update problem at all. Instead, they're allocating 'hidden space' on the drive to capture user sensitive data and store it for later uploads to Microsoft when the laptop/desktop is connected to the Internet.

    --
    --- We need more Ron Paul!
  3. Re:No they won't by 110010001000 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Data collection. Spying. Owning you.

  4. ms incompetence by NikeHerc · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is a perfect example of why I have been ms-free since July 4th, 2018, and a big shout-out to Ubuntu for helping me be ms-free.

    If a company as big as ms can't check for free space prior to an o.s. update, they don't deserve to be in the business of providing operating systems.

    --
    Circle the wagons and fire inward. Entropy increases without bounds.
  5. Re:No they won't by jellomizer · · Score: 3, Insightful

    True you are not paying attention, because things actually work so smoothly in Windows 10, that you don't need to focus on keeping your OS running.

    Ok, I am being a bit sarcastic here. But Windows 10, doesn't suck that much, and Linux isn't that much better of an OS. I have a system with rather new hardware (With hardware designed for Linux, from System 76), and it duel boots Windows and Linux. And oddly enough windows runs faster and smoother for most application then Linux does.

    No Linux runs well on the system, and Windows 10 has its issues too. But it isn't like a Windows 10 user is so far behind in 2019 a Linux user.

    --
    If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
  6. Re:No they won't by ArchieBunker · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Can you point me towards the Linux builds for SolidWorks and Altium Designer as I need to get some work done. Also video editing is a hobby so how about Adobe Premiere?

    --
    Only the State obtains its revenue by coercion. - Murray Rothbard
  7. Re:No they won't by demon+driver · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There are valid reasons against Linux, but more maintenance time or hassle isn't one of them. On the contrary, with any popular distribution all of which employ mature, well-engineered package management tools, Linux system and application maintenance is at least by one order of magnitude easier and significantly less time-consuming to boot (pun not intended)...

  8. Re: No they won't by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    We get it. You've never used Linux and you like to parrot talking points from last century. Kindly do it somewhere else where you have a chance of not being recognized case a complete idiot though. Here most of us know how truly ridiculous your claims are.

    --
    Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
  9. Re:No they won't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I spend 30% of my time maintaining Windows machines.

    So do I. And by "maintaining" I mean continually uninstalling stupid crap (especially troubling is how much of it is 3rd party software like Candy Crush) that windows keeps installing on my user's machines, despite being told not to in Group Policy. Or re-assigning the default browser away from Edge, and back to IE. (I know IE sucks, but the primary software that is used by nearly every employee for 80+% of their job requires IE to be the default browser), or continually turning off all of the data collection because it all gets turned on after every software update...

    Windows 10 is the biggest piece of malware I deal with on a day to day basis.

  10. Re:No they won't by BringsApples · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Microsoft model:
    buy the (correct) OS
    buy the user licenses
    buy the access licenses
    buy the software
    buy the user rights to use software
    find ways to get what you need done, done.

    Linux model:
    download the OS
    install/setup/configure the OS
    find ways to get what you need done, done.

    Functionality of each is irrefutable, but one is a real pain in the ass, the other is just irritating at times.

    --
    Politics; n. : A religion whereby man is god.
  11. Re: No they won't by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Really? Have you missed the numerous stories of Windows 10 updates doing truly horrendous things to people's systems, including but not limited to losing data and causing them to fail to boot at all? How about having your system's settings reset so that you are never truly sure that it is set up the way you thought it was? It is absurd to suggest that Windows 10 is easier to maintain then Windows, since you literally have no control over it, having relinquished all control to Microsoft.

    --
    Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
  12. Re:Not such a terrible concept .... by willaien · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That ignores that cheap, budget devices are sold with 32GB or 64GB of storage. They aren't expandable. Remember that Windows 10 is _supposed_ to run on more than just high end desktops.

  13. Re:No they won't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In the "near future", huh? Only been hearing that for almost 20 years.

  14. MIKKKRO$OFT?!?! by Merk42 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    M$ BAD! I didn't RTFA or RTFS, BUT, BAD M$ BAD!! Now to wait and get +5 insightful!!

  15. Re:No they won't by Immerman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And so it has been. The Linux desktop has been thriving, it just hasn't gained dramatic market share, persistently hovering around the same tiny fraction as MacOS, for reasons that have very little to do with the Linux desktop itself.

    --
    --- Most topics have many sides worth arguing, allow me to take one opposite you.
  16. Re:No they won't by 110010001000 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You don't know what they are sending! The system, the source code, is CLOSED. It could be sending a log of every website you ever visited, every keystroke, every document you have. You have no idea. And the data they collect can change at any time.

  17. Re:No they won't by harperska · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Linux model:
    download the OS
    install/setup/configure the OS
    Configure the OS
    Configure the OS again
    Break something
    Google which config file might control the weird behavior you are seeing.
    Search message boards for a possible solution
    Wade through countless 'me too' posts to see if anybody actually has a fix
    Try a solution someone gave for a problem that looks like it might be similar to yours
    Try a different proposed solution because the first one only made things worse
    Break something else
    Give up
    Reinstall the OS
    Repeat