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Google Demanded T-Mobile, Sprint To Not Sell Google Fi Customers' Location Data (vice.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report: On Thursday, AT&T announced it was stopping the sale of its customers' real-time location data to all third parties, in response to a Motherboard investigation showing how data from AT&T, T-Mobile, and Sprint trickled down through a complex network of companies until eventually landing the hands of bounty hunters and people unauthorized to handle it. To verify the existence of this trade, Motherboard paid $300 on the black market to successfully locate a phone.

Google, whose Google Fi program offers phone, text, and data services that use T-Mobile and Sprint network infrastructure in the United States, told Motherboard that it asked those companies to not share its customers' location data with third parties. "We have never sold Fi subscribers' location information," a Google spokesperson told Motherboard in a statement late on Thursday. "Google Fi is an MVNO (mobile virtual network operator) and not a carrier, but as soon as we heard about this practice, we required our network partners to shut it down as soon as possible." Google did not say when it made this a requirement.

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  1. Demanded they stop until Google gets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Their cut of the proceeds.

    1. Re:Demanded they stop until Google gets by jellomizer · · Score: 2

      Or until they can rebuild their reputation.

      Google is like Microsoft 20 years ago. It is popular, however its reputation is getting further tainted, mostly due to aggressive business decisions that negatively affect its customers.

      This bad reputation is strongly the reason why Apple had such growth the past decade+. As demand for mobile devices increased, we no longer could make x86 compatible devices that were mobile. So the huge MS Software library would be unavailable. So people switch to Apple Devices iPods, iPhone, realizing if they are going to get new software anyways, they might as well go with a company who at the time was known for its quality and reliability. Also for those who didn't like Apple, Google was the next best thing.

      Now Microsoft while still a huge company, is no longer the darling tech company, it is more like boring old IBM now, where they are now working hard to regain trust with customers again. While Google, and Apple running high on its success, started cutting corners that are pissing people off now.

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      If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
    2. Re:Demanded they stop until Google gets by fafalone · · Score: 2

      Microsoft [...], where they are now working hard to regain trust with customers again.

      LOL what!?!?!? They force installed an OS that is both adware and spyware with no way to permanently disable either of those behaviors, and they won't even sell the little people the version that lets you only get advertised to and spied on a little. Windows 10 is by a wide margin the greatest violation of trust they've EVER pulled, and good god is there heavy competition.

  2. "Black market" implies it is illegal by bigpat · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Unfortunately it probably isn't illegal for companies to sell customer data like this... but it should be illegal to sell intimate customer data without explicit consent and ongoing updates about specifically which companies are being given access to the data and in turn which other companies are getting access to the data further down the line.

    Maybe I would be ok with specific reputable ad companies using this data for specific advertising services, but not so ok if anyone can pay $300 and track my location.

  3. Business by Kohath · · Score: 4, Informative

    Because if that data is available from carriers, Google won't be able to monetize it exclusively themselves. They don't want any competition.

  4. If it isn't illegal it should be by sjbe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Maybe I would be ok with specific reputable ad companies using this data for specific advertising services, but not so ok if anyone can pay $300 and track my location.

    Why should ad companies get special privileges? I'm not ok with them using this data without my consent and frankly I think the term "reputable ad company" is something of an oxymoron. I certainly do not trust ANY of them including Google and especially Facebook. At minimum there should be a firewall so that third parties have no means of learning specific details about the individual being tracked without explicit consent from that individual. It should absolutely be illegal to sell identifiable tracking data to third parties without explicit written (and revocable) consent.

  5. Isn't it a bit early for April Fools Day? by TuballoyThunder · · Score: 5, Interesting
    At first I thought I accidentally went to The Onion when I saw the headline, but it really is Slashdot.

    As other have pointed out, I guess Google doesn't like the competition.

  6. "Don't sell our customer's data... by Aspasia13 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ... that's our job!"

  7. Why collect it then? by Murdoch5 · · Score: 2

    They intentionally collected mass amounts of data, for the sole purpose of tracking and distributing that data to other companies. If they didn't want the data shared they would of either not collected it, or made the data functionally useless to the other parties, through encryption, hashing or other means of obfuscation.

  8. Awww, Google has competition for evil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Feel sorry for Google.

    They have the SADZ because others are being evil with their surreptitious data collection.

  9. Re:THIS IS A JOKE by beanpoppa · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No, Google does not sell customer data. Google sells access to eyeballs. They will deliver ads to eyeballs that fit the metrics that an advertiser specifies, but the advertiser isn't provided with the details of who is behind that eyeball.