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Riot Games Issues New Company Values In Wake of 'Bro' Culture Accusations (venturebeat.com)
An anonymous reader writes: Riot Games, the maker of the enormously popular League of Legends multiplayer online battle arena (MOBA) PC game, has issued a new set of company values on its web site. They're the result of some soul searching after the company was accused by many of its own employees last year of having a sexist "bro" culture. The company said that these new values replace the company's Manifesto from 2012 and reflects conversations with more than 1,700 Rioters about "what we want our company to be."
Anything the SJW's touch turns to poison.
Anytime I read an article like this, I immediately have to go to Sandman's youtube channel to get my daily dose of red pills:
https://www.youtube.com/user/SandmanMGTOW/videos
the MRAs and incels to whine about SJWs taking over the world...
Wokeness signaling is not a no-loss proposition. Any gaming company has to realize that it also brings about:
a. Content censorship. Be prepared to run all your content decisions by an unaccountable "committee" that will issue arbitrary decisions. Unlike law and religion, these people are not sufficiently organized or organizationally mature to have a set of rules or standards to follow.
b. Departure from meritocracy in employment standards. One of the common demands is hiring higher number of minorities and women, while great as a principle without available qualified candidates the only way to meet targets is to hire unqualified candidates.
c. Gamers generally don't appreciate political messaging in games, as these groups repeatedly attacked and abused gamers in the past (i.e. gamergate)
A company should respect old employees (more skills) and not respect women (too interested in "issues") or minorities (quota hires).
Riot: "And as you can see in our company's Manifesto..."
Me: "Goodbye."
So now we simply react to "accusations"...
How soon before Riot goes under because of this poisonous ideology.
Chas - The one, the only.
THANK GOD!!!
It's so strange that a game about forming highly competitive teams to engage in aggressive matches with other teams would foster a culture that is... the same as that.
I'm not much of a fan of "bro" culture myself, but that's the audience of LoL. If you want to foster environments of friendly and inclusive civil discourse, perhaps your product shouldn't be all about cheering and jeering as you stomp the competition into the ground. I get that this is about the company's social atmosphere rather than its consumers, but this is asking for a total tonal disconnect between creators and players. But, I don't play LoL, so what do I care.
Is this another game company going out of business?
Time to grow up.
This company makes games featuring impossibly hot ladies in skintight yoga-pant jumpsuits and thongs swinging glowing swords among other weaponry.
And the bosses had to take a survey to detect scent of a bro?
Fire the management; they have no idea what games they sell, who their market is, or what kind of staff latitude it takes to crank out one more SI Swimsuit model with armored bra and a laser cannon. What do they think keeps the lights on over there?
I buy a game to have to fun. I want to get away from my boring life and get some excitement. Being forced at gunpoint to agree to a hypocritical cancerous political agenda where people can be openly discriminated against, censored, attacked, fired or treated differently because a deranged political cult called SJW likes to ruin the lives or random people who didn't do anything is just EVIL. These people act just like Nazis and will always call their victims 'Nazis." These are professional victims who are in a state of unending outrage 24/7. They always attack relentlessly without empathy. They are sadistic and unforgiving. They are hateful and actively seek new victims to abuse. They ruin anything they take control of.
I'm a liberal and I'll never support this evil cancer. I won't vote the left until they are purged. Even Trump doesn't make me this upset or angry.
There is no such thing as equality, let alone "authentic equality."
You, practicer of Lawlessness!
Harvey Weinstein at this moment is only accused of misconduct, but given the number of accusations, I believe he is guilty of many, if not all, of the accusations.
When you have many accusations, it is very much worth a look as to why. My software company is 10x their size and we don't have many accusations of a sexist culture. I am not aware of a single one. Most women would praise how we treat female employees and especially female engineers. People generally don't make false accusations in the software industry. If you don't like where you are, it's easy to get a new job elsewhere.
Even if 100% of the accusations were false, it would be very much in Riot Games' interest to figure out why so many people are making these accusations? What is their motivation? Even if the allegations were proven to be exaggerated, they're at least unhappy and that is worth investigating why for a software company.
Think of sensitive SJWs as the canary in the coal mine. Even if their tolerance for BS is lower than yours, chances are that things are not too awesome if they're complaining about their job (it's easy as can be to find another job in the software industry). Forcing the company to rethink how they treat their employees is likely to make things better for everyone.
A male-oriented company, a female-oriented company and a SJW company or three SJW companies?
Has management at that company even played their own games? Are they not aware of the content?
Surely they must be aware of what they are selling and to whom...
I don't know why we have so many companies committing corporate suicide by latching on to the SJW movement. We are talking about a tiny minority of very vocal people who have the ear of the media, dictating everyone's lives and ruining those who don't comply with their unreasonable demands.
Illegal undocumented immigrants. Immigrants love sex. They are constantly hitting on women below and above their current socio-economic class. This is a good thing.
It is only self hating politically correct whites who have turned against the so called 'bro' culture
White male liberals who believe in saving the world will happily not talk to a girl if she is above his class, shows hesitation, or in any ways says anything that is not totally encouraging of the relationship.
The female will then hop into bed with the first strong,undocumented,virile male who does not take no for an answer. She will then laugh at the socially correct awkward caring male because he is not showing the required level of manliness and in the next sentence accuse all whites males of being rapist and yet, not see the contradiction. Females love males who can come into a foreign land and take it over; as they should. They do not love sissy males that allow their country to be overrun; as they should.
White males can a learn a lot from the undocumented invaders they are being replaced by.
Hundreds of thousands of years of evolution have created a world where the most confident males gobble up all the females.
Prove me wrong. Show me a world where females are fawning over homeless people. Homeless people are the epitome of the Schopenhaur's self hating world view. they have a minimal carbon footprint and hurt nobody. They are the anti-bro, anti-sexist. Females are not rushing to sleep with homeless people. They are instead gravitating to rich powerful people like Movie Stars and Presidents.
Once they have been impregnated by these powerful types, the powerful types move on, and impregnate other women. If women want to end the 'bro' culture they will just have to sleep with more socially awkward types. This will never happen, nor should it. Evolution depends on males acting like pigs and female jumping in the pig stye.
Support the bro culture.
I love Donald Trump, Weinstein, Clinton, Cosby, Schwarzenegger, and every other male that has been crucified by the media for being a male.
Riot rose to massive success using the golden business model appealing to the sexuality of teenage boys. Then, for some reason, they like many companies before them, think it is wise to switch business models and change to appeal to demographics that have no interest in using their product. The company will decline, and a new company will rise and the cycle will continue.
"Liberalism is a very noble idea, currently controlled by some very bad people. Be sure you do not get the two confused.
Seriously? When you see something you don't like in the world the solution is not simply to kick and scream until you either bend it to your will or burn it to the ground. Sometimes you should just take your ball and go play somewhere else. Build your own world your own way. If it truly is better you will succeed. Seeding such negativity does not make anybody like you or agree with you.
Articles like this one always bring out people complaining about SJWs or ranting about how people are virtue signalling etc. What I don't get about all the complaints, and what nobody seems to explain is that fundamentally it's about asking other people to be 'nice' rather than 'assholes'.
Of course people don't expect to be touched inappropriately, or bellowed about the merit of their race or their gender preference, in the same way you wouldn't want to be about some attribute of yours. I'm not going to go out and call you names like a playground schoolboy just because you're a bit different from me, and I wouldn't expect someone to do it to me. Nor would I think it's acceptable to go around grabbing body parts in the same way I wouldn't expect anyone to do it to me.
We're an incredibly diverse species and I don't have the time or inclination to be permanently infuriated by the next societal change, fashion choice, and I can't see how anyone would want to holler at others online for expressing their differences.
There are limits obviously, so I'm starting from a few basic ground rules like 'my body is mine', and no matter your beliefs you're in the wrong if you try and touch me without permission, but beyond a few of the basic principles about my personal space and private belongings, what else really matters? Just be nice to people and expect the same in return. That is all.
Cue the people saying I'm some beta or a cuck or whatever juvenile insult is popular this week, but man - my life has been full of sex and fun times by simply enjoying it and having good times with anyone and everyone so *shrug*.
So, to the original question: Why's wrong with nice, and further, why when being told 'that is not nice' do people rail against it like it's some form of mass societal decline?
After more than 20 years working in the Silicon Valley tech industry, I still have yet to encounter Bro Culture, whatever the fuck that is... SJWs and lazy tech journalists need a new meme.
Hey, you fucking deplorable, what about the ones that didn't consent to having a creepy orange old man grab them by their pussies? Only one guilty party there.
God, it'll be so fucking awesome when we send him to prison.
I'm dead serious. Who gives a fuck?
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
We are coming for your Pac Man. There is no escape.
First of all being sexist isn't being a 'bro.' Second of all, in case anybody forgot bro just means brother. It doesn't mean you are excluding anyone or treating people poorly. Even most 'nerds' and woman bro fist because it is a short handshake. Why can't people just call out individual sexist things when they happen than blame "culture." Seriously, let people do what they want and when it becomes a problem handle that one person that is being sexist or assaulting you. No matter where you are "culture" doesn't take precedence over the laws and the laws in the U.S. are pretty damn stringent. This just sounds like someone is upset that others are having fun (I assume having fun is what they mean by bro culture). SJWs always use "bro" as a negative. Remember calling people "Bernie Bros" if you were a man and like Bernie Sanders just because Bernie wasn't a woman like his opponent in the 2016 democratic primary. Now that I've beaten the word "bro" to death, how about we talk more about just sexist culture. Please don't tell me any group that consist of more men than women makes it sexist. This is generally what these journalist use to confirm sexism in tech. Just having a majority doesn't make the majority evil. Every single person who went to college in the 2000s can confirm that if you took a computer science class it was going to be 90% men. I'd bet woman are over-represented in tech based on college graduation rates in computer science, although I don't have statistics handy. My point is the reason for a majority has nothing to do with sexism and being a minority doesn't make you oppressed. Lumping people into groups based on sex or race is wrong, even against the majority.
I'll care the instant someone insists Bill Clinton get charged for RAPE. Story
You give yourself away by giving a pass to a rapist, add to that your lack of evidence of Trump actually doing something wrong and you sound like a lunatic.
Fantasize much?
So, does this mean Riot Games is finally going to release a League of Legends client for Linux soon? No? Well, fukdat! You kids need to quit sitting around farting in each others' faces and playing grabass/grabballz. Do some real work for a change, you lazy bastards.
Never. Your piece of shit is going to jail.
I'll care the instant someone insists Bill Clinton get charged for RAPE.
You give yourself away by giving a pass to a rapist, . . .
Go ahead and bring charges against him. Until then STFU. Aren't you the one's usually crying, "Innocent, until proven guilty"? When was he convicted? Oh, wait. Nevermind. I see your using your double-standard.
. . .add to that your lack of evidence of Trump actually doing something wrong and you sound like a lunatic.
Trump admitted to and apologized for it before he realized that he forgot to stick by his mantra, "Deny. Deny. Deny." Now why would he ever do that? Do you mean that lack of evidence?
I expected nothing less from the comments on this post: a total dumpster fire.
Past that. It's 'investigate the coverup' time.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
... One of the common demands is hiring higher number of minorities and women, while great as a principle without available qualified candidates the only way to meet targets is to hire unqualified candidates.
Actually, there's a lot to be said for gaming companies to hire both women and minorities; these are both groups that it would be valuable to have as customers, but which aren't very well served.
The problem is a mismatch between expectations and reality. SJWs believe without qualifications that men and women are equal. But it's been empirically proven that they're wrong - men and women prefer different types of games.
You just made my point.
If men and women prefer different kinds of games, a gaming company that hires almost entirely men is missing half the market
Nobody is doing what you are saying though. That's the problem. Show us one game where the developers said "fuck women, we hate em, so we are going to make our game men only."
If you have only men in the company, you'll never know if your game is driving away women.
(Actually, the evidence is pretty clear that games are driving away women. I should have written "If you have only men in the company, you'll never know why your game is driving away women.)
IIRC 'Custer's Last Stand', on the Atari 2600 involved a rapey lowres 'cutscene' between levels.
That was more a troll than a game.
'Duke Nukem' required a sense of humor, hence it was clearly a 'no feminists' game.
You have it exactly. If you never hire women, you don't even know that gang rape seems aren't funny to women. Or that trolls stop being funny when they're saying "I'm going to stick a knife up your cunt, you bitch". You'll think "oh, it's only people with no humor that have problems with this."
When did even "SJW" become an accepted term?
As far as I have noticed, it's used derogatory about people that in many cases actually raise valid concerns about intentional and unintentional mistreatment of women (or - in many cases - other people of various sorts), derogatory language against HBTQ people, and how hard privilege can be to spot when you are the one enjoying privilege (a trap many of us can fall in) ...
You never played duke nukem, it's just obvious.
'Picture Bugs Bunny anally raping Elmer Fudd. It's funny.' Para G. Carlin.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
Bro?
In 3... 2... 1...
You are 100% right, if the initial logic of diversity hiring was remotely followed. Originally, it said that companies could increase their markets by having people with different backgrounds adding input to create new things. What doesn't work is hiring people with different backgrounds to fuck up something people not of their background enjoy.
"Liberalism is a very noble idea, currently controlled by some very bad people. Be sure you do not get the two confused.
You have it exactly. If you never hire women, you don't even know that gang rape seems aren't funny to women.
If you make a game that is funny to women, but not funny to men, is that ok ? No ?
At some point, you guys just have to accept the obvious : Guys and gals just don't enjoy the same kind of stuff. Sure there's overlap sometimes, but some games are simply a better fit to either gender's characteristics.
It's ok that not every game ends up catering to everyone poorly, but caters to specific niches well, at the cost of maybe being "offensive" to other people. The option is simple :
Don't like it, don't buy it.
"Not to mention all the idiots who use words like boxen."
Anonymous Coward on Monday August 04, @06:49PM
At some point, you guys just have to accept the obvious : Guys and gals just don't enjoy the same kind of stuff.
And that, in a nutshell, is why you want to have both men and women work at your game company.
Gamer culture is garbage, all gamers are garbage, and should be persecuted as hard as possible by all decent people.
Anything that upsets garbage people is a valuable thing and inherently worth doing for its own reasons.
However, because this is a website for garbage people you could easily be convinced that some other view exists and is valid. That's what makes this website so dangerous to the feeble minded.
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Well, deplorable, you've only had the past 20-25 years to do it. What's taking you so fucking long?
I'm not defending anything about Bill. I didn't even mention his name, some typical, Trump-supporting apologist did. You know the kind I mean. The kind that tries to deflect all they shitgibbonry Trump is guilty of, by pointing to a conservative op-ed that is using "facts" taken from the Clinton Body Count to try to justify the opinion they're being force fed by their conservative-biased media. Yeah, that kind;. The deplorable kind.
You know all that Body Count shit has been debunked, don't you? Well, don't you?
The only bad thing ive read in the news was jessica price going into overdrive with her social justice cult lunacy. I believe shes still posting nasty things aboutbher former employer. So youre telling me a woman acting like a victim for attacking community members is bro culture?