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US Will Seek Extradition of Huawei CFO From Canada (reuters.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Reuters: The U.S. Justice Department said on Tuesday it will pursue the extradition of the chief financial officer of China's Huawei, arrested in Canada in December. The United States has accused Huawei CFO Meng Wanzhou of misrepresenting the company's links to a firm that tried to sell equipment to Iran despite U.S. sanctions. The arrest soured relations between Canada and China, with China subsequently detaining two Canadian citizens and sentencing a third to death. The United States must file a formal request for extradition by Jan. 30. Once a formal request is received, a Canadian court has 30 days to determine whether there is enough evidence to support extradition and the Canadian minister of justice must issue a formal order. Canada has not asked the United States to abandon its bid to have Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou extradited, Canada's Foreign Minister Chrystia Freeland said in an interview with Bloomberg TV. "We will continue to pursue the extradition of defendant Ms. Meng Wanzhou, and will meet all deadlines set by the U.S./Canada Extradition Treaty," Justice Department spokesman Marc Raimondi said in a statement. "We greatly appreciate Canada's continuing support of our mutual efforts to enforce the rule of law."
Slashdot reader AmiMoJo shares a separate report from the BBC: The chairman of Chinese tech giant Huawei has warned his company could shift away from the U.S. and the U.K. if it continues to face restrictions. Huawei has been under scrutiny by Western governments, which fear its products could be used for spying. Speaking at the World Economic Forum, in Davos, Mr Liang Hua said his firm might transfer technology to countries "where we are welcomed." Huawei makes smartphones but is also a world leader in telecoms infrastructure, in particular the next generation of mobile phone networks, known as 5G.
Slashdot reader AmiMoJo shares a separate report from the BBC: The chairman of Chinese tech giant Huawei has warned his company could shift away from the U.S. and the U.K. if it continues to face restrictions. Huawei has been under scrutiny by Western governments, which fear its products could be used for spying. Speaking at the World Economic Forum, in Davos, Mr Liang Hua said his firm might transfer technology to countries "where we are welcomed." Huawei makes smartphones but is also a world leader in telecoms infrastructure, in particular the next generation of mobile phone networks, known as 5G.
If it's not CIA capturing and torturing people, it's the less shadowy part of their government literally keeping people hostage in exchange for beneficial market policies. This is all about Huawei's growth and increasing market share, nothing else.
The U.S. has no credibility and acts without impunity to get what it wants, and it's time the world stands up against them.
No, we never liked you, please go away and shut up until you need somebody to save your dumb ass from invasion, then we'll come back and show you what color freedom bleeds.
After of the extradition, i think that the accused is very rich and could pay a big fine for the American justice: worth several US$ millions.
Huawei leads the world of the mobiles and the American government wants to charge it.
If you mess with a Chinese company and it's executives, you are messing with the CCP and PLA. It's almost as though extradition would be an act of war....
Fuck it, bring it on! Bitch broke the law!
Care to enumerate any of these multiple felonies and lies, jackass? Oh, right, you can't, because every time the fake corporate media drags out another made up pile of crap accusation it is disproven within a day or two. And programmed NPC dumbasses like you just keep eating that up too.
All I can say is feel free to bail the US market and take your (IMHO) crummy servers and network junk with you. I would have a better opinion, but after the complete pogrom on unlocked bootloaders, I lost respect for this company.
Yes, there are a lot of allegations, but where there is smoke, there is fire. Canada isn't a country that buckles to the US unless something is there, and Huawei has had complaints in other areas around the globe as well.
If they only do business in Asia, fine. One less potential security threat I have to worry about.
Don't paint them as some sort of liberal privacy-defending EFF-type company "refusing to play ball" with the NSA lol. They ACTIVELY SPY on their users for the Chinese Communist Party and put tentacles on the ground worldwide.
Huawei's fraudulent ownership of a shell company they refuse to acknowledge despite ironclad evidence is more proof of what arrogant morons they are, even more than thinking you can fly through Canada with a warrant for your arrest.
They deserved to be caught and Meng deserves to be extradited to face charges like any other fraud. That China is railroading Canadian citizens to use as hostages, like Russia with Whelan, it's just more obvious evidence.
This isn't a legitimate business fighting the good fight for consumers and being screwed by the nutty Trump administration, this is a spy tentacle caught walking through an airport like it's nothing. Arrogant ChiCom princess shit.
China's government is a pack of assholes trying to flex and it's going to end badly for them. Trump is incompetent and self-defeating, this has nothing to do with that racist asshole's issues, this is about rule of law.
Lock her up, Trump will be in there soon enough also.
Disproven like Trump "disproved" that he had multiple business dealings with Russia to the American people, lying to your fat faggot face over and over again, lol? Tell it to the warden faggot, Trump has 20+ open investigations. He's fucked.
You want to get fucked too, I'm sure we can work something out with the inmates at ADX Florence to accommodate your faggot traitor ass as well, Junior.
For fuck's sake, just come out of the closet already. You are absolutely FIXATED on homosexual sex. It's all "faggot" this and "faggot" that... What percentage of your day is spent not thinking about gay sex? 2%? 3%?
Don't deny it.. Your actions speak louder than any possible words of denial... Come out, get a husband, drop the rabid anger, and be happy.
Can't get concessions from trade talk, threaten to kill the hostage [politico.com] (in Guantanamo prison, perhaps.)
USA a mad terrorist state!
China could suspend the silicon's market with Canada for the next decades.
By example,
1. Huawei won't export their Chinese products to Canada for the next decades.
2. China won't import Canadian products for the next decades.
Soon there will be an extradition hearing. The judge will refuse extradition to the U.S. on the base that Trump's comment about using Ms. Meng Wanzhou as a bargaining chip infers the possibility of interference with the judicial process in the United States, therefore denying her the right to a fair trial.
That's what her lawyers will plead, and the judge will agree with them. Extradition will be denied, and Ms. Meng Wanzhou will go free.
Maybe next time the orange dipship will learn to keep his Putin-cock-sucking mouth shut. But I doubt it.
If the judge has strong evidence Ms. Meng is guilty, wouldn't that override Trump's odd statements? Probable guilt level should be the key factor, not what political leaders say.
Table-ized A.I.
Dear Murica... we used to like you. A lot.
...pre-Internet, when we were young and naive, before we discovered that every ideal you pretend to portray is nothing more than a facade which allows you to rape the world for resources so as to allow your bloated population to consume the Earth.
Huawei is not owned by the Chinese govt. Its owner served in the military so did a bunch of founders of American companies including McDonalds, IBM and AT&T.
Huawei has got research grants from the Chinese equivalent of NSF so has Facebook, Google , Cisco and Apple.
Further there have been no cases of Huawei equipment being used to spy whereas we know for a fact that CISCO backdoors have been used to spy on Angela Merkel.
Given these facts it is pretty clear that the opposition to Huawei equipment is not because the Chinese wll use it to spy and rather that it makes it more difficult for the NSA to spy. They may actually have to earn their Govt. salaries and we know that is anathema to Govt. Servants like the NSA and the CIA. They would much rather use backdoors (which CISCO cannot refuse to put in under US law)
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No, because, whether the judge thinks she is guilty or not doesn't matter. What matters if whether the judge thinks, if the defendant is transferred, whether she will get a fair trial. (She isn't on trial in Canada.) A political leader saying he will interfere with the trial to use the defendant as a bargaining chip proves she cannot have a fair trial. Therefore only a seriously defective judge would allow her to be taken to the USA.
No, we won't.
That's why they're so fucking terrified. We're not going to save them a third time.
nazi crybaby jpaine is triggered by homosexuality, news at 11. In other news, the retarded Drumpf administration today admitted they colluded with Russia, but so what right? And in sports...
The fact that China is taking hostages is pretty strong proof that Rule of Law in Canada is broken and Canada needs to be reminded that Political hostage taking works both ways. Meng is not even accused of breaking any Canadian law and extradition is for crimes which are crimes in both countries. The sanctions she is accused of violating are illegal as they are against the JCPOA a UN treaty and neither Canada nor China has agreed to those sanctions so holding Meng is a purely political decision. The arrest had to be signed off on by the Canadian justice minister as will any extradition so it is a political arrest. China understands when to play nice and when to show countries that political hostage taking both ways.
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Rants by AC are just that rants.
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Canada holds people wanted for legal holds, she violated US law, our partners in Canada detained her. If Chinese are too dumb to know the US and Canada are allied and have extradition treaties, IT SUCKS TO BE YOU MENG.
I think US owed the French for 1783 and 1812. They repaid in 1914 and 1942.
Also in Vietnam the US screwed up the mess left by the French even worse than the French did.
So neither does France expect US to come to its aid and nor does it have great confidence is USA's ability to do so without screwing things up.
There is a reason French troops are not inside the unified NATO command and why France keeps asking Germany to lets setup an independent European Army.
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Yet again the US is applying it's laws to conduct happening on foreign soil. By this principle Saudi Arabia could extradite me. Further politicians could get laws passed in other countries that would be unconstitutional here. How long before a US citizen is extradited to Germany for selling Nazi antiquities.
I don't see how any other free nation would endorse an extradition like this.
When a ChiCom apologist faggot logs in to lie, it's still just a lie. Face it, the party owns Huawei. There's no denying it any more than denying Meng will face trial for Huawei's frauds. You're not changing anything, sorry.
WRONG, the US and Canada have strong extradition treaties AND the evidence is in hand that Huawei committed massive fraud. She's an officer of that company, fair game. Your crybaby act changes nothing Ghoul.
Trump's weak threats of interfering mean nothing, he can't interfere any more than he can shut down the Mueller investigation. It LOOKS bad, dumb as hell, but legally he's shown zero ability to affect court outcomes despite all efforts.
You can whine, snivel, cry out, lie, but you will not change the fact that the Chinese Communist Party OWNS AND CONTROLS HUAWEI, and Huawei feeds Chinese intel with their spying operations. Huawei = Chinese govt. spyware.
We know you love ramen and anime and all that shit, this has nothing to do with it. Go catch pokemons, nobody cares. This is about Huawei being caught in frauds, and officers of that company facing trial for it. Period.
Doesn't stop Trudeau getting on his knees to please the retard in chief.
Wrong. The political decision Canada made was to make Rule of Law the norm, and we signed an extradition treaty to enact that.
Big Giant Orange Head opened his big mouth and is making Canada reconsider. Seriously, all he had to do was shut his cake-hole, but Oh No! BGOH never shuts his cake-hole, does he?
Extradition based upon laws and evidence is Canada's preferred route. The intervention of the Minister or Prime Minister to block extradition would be political. We'll see if BGOH has poisoned the well so thoroughly as to cause that.
Canada has no extradition treaty with Venezuela, dip-shit. Typical Deplorable logic, tell a lie, use it to support a lie, then use that to justify Deplorable actions.
Sorry but the US came into WW1 in 1917. Late just like they were for WW2.
Hmmmm....that's funny because the last time I checked Canada, the UK, and a bunch of other countries were out in the forefront fighting off the invaders for years while the US sat back and made money off of arms sales...WWI and WWII.
Also, 9/11. The US closed it's airspace and Canada left itself open to attack to land all those planes from Europe that were well past the turn around point. If we didn't they would have all crashed into the Atlantic. How quickly a lot of you south of us seem to forget that.
In the 20th century, that colour was Soviet red and yellow. The USSR did the vast majority of the bleeding, at the direct exhortation of the UK and USA. Per capita you could make an argument for Poland, the Baltic countries and some of the rest of eastern Europe to join the club.
Yes, it's ironic that the USSR is responsible for the preservation of the free world from the only serious threat it faced in living memory.
Incorrect little frenchboy. If it wasn't for the U.S. the french would be speaking german. The greatest achievement of the french during WWI and WWII was to be the first in line to surrender to the germans. Hell, the greatest military victory of the french in the last 300 years was when they sank that green peace ship that was moored up in that harbor. Twenty adequately trained "commands" heavily armed with superior made British and Israeli automatic weapons managed to take out a unarmed ship, in a harbor, defended only by a dozen or so stoned ass hippies in the middle of the night. Yee Ha. Go french military.
But don't worry french boy, if you got your ass in trouble again and quickly surrendered to what ever pack of boy scouts landed on your shore. Uncle Sam will show up and bail your ass out, again. It is what friends are for.
Venezuela and Canada do not have an extradition treaty. Canada and the US does have an extradition treaty.
That's the difference.
You don't know its from it's
His name is BlueCoder not BlueWriter. Frankly, I wouldn't trust a coder that did know its from it's.
Shush with your reality checks. Red blooded Americans won WW1, WW2, and all the other wars too. There isnâ(TM)t anything worth thinking about beyond our borders. MAGA!
Post a video of Trump using the words "bargaining chip" or "pawn" when directly referring to Wanzhou. There isn't one. Journalists made it up. Easy to prove me wrong. Find it. Post a link.
You were played like a puppet on a string.
Look at how well you dance.
Why did the Orange Turd lie about all throughout the campaign if it is legitimate business.
In no way is Drumpf a leader of anything except perhaps conmen.
numbnuts
Is this "we don't partner with businesses that are active in Iran and you lied to us" or the USA selfishly claiming jurisdiction like it did over the internet, Cuban cigars and New Zealand houses?
^^ Mod up factual.
The US basically was on the Nazi side and a Nazi country themselves until nearly the very end, when they noticed that not only the French resistance and British bombers were winning, but the Soviets were overrunning Germany.
So they quickly stormed to the front, kicked over the last bucket, and acted like they did it all-anone, so everybody would forget what side they had actually supported.
Then they promplty went on to hire as many Nazi scientists and concentration camp human experiment doctors as they could, renamed their own concentration camps into "black sites", acted like their Ãoebermensch propaganda was " just superhero comics", told everyone how they are the world's saviors,
and went on to wage imperialist wars against literally ALL the countries in one uninterrupted stream since 1945.
That is the hard reality that you US-Americans never get told in your history "education".
Just like North Koreans believe Kim-Yong Il is God, you believe this.
canada is not yet a US state/colony
No, it's not us: it's you. Really, it is.
It must be so ronery to be trolling from your moms basement.
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I just saw my teenagers High school syllabus. There is no Geography subject!!!! And this is one of the best school districts in the country. No wonder Americans think Canada is part of US ;)
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I think the judge would have to do more explain why he thinks she won't get a fair trial in rational terms. Trumps rants aren't relevant because he doesn't control the prosecution or the judicial system she will be tried in. There are laws, procedures and treaties involved as well as the risk of precedent -- it's not a cocktail party where you can simply say "but omg, Trump, it's so unfair". If she can claim the judicial system won't give her a fair trial, couldn't most any extradition defendant in Canada, especially if they're poor or a minority, make the same claim and with better evidence that it is unfair to those people?
I seriously doubt a judge in Canada can get away with simply repudiating the US judicial system as unfair. There's no doubt it has unfair qualities in terms of access for poor people, but that's not what's in question. Trump has had ample opportunities to interfere with the Mueller investigation LEGALLY by pardoning Manafort, et al but hasn't done it, and he has a personal stake in all of these people getting off the hook.
You just want to gargle his balls, you sick pervert!
https://www.reuters.com/articl...
Trump clearly said that he would intervene if he tought this was good for the country. That's the President of the United States, clearly and unambiguously claiming that he would interfere with the judicial process.In any Rule of Law country (which Canada is), it would be more than enough evidence to get any legal case thrown out of court, including cases like murder.
But I'm sure you'll just claim again that Reuters, one of the most well established and professional news organizations on the planet, just made that all up, actually never showed up in the white house, never conducted this interview with the president himself, and just published a completely made-up fake-news to the entire planet, that curiously, Trump himself never denied publicly.
God you rabid, blind, fanatical Trump worshipers are pathetic. Now go ahead, little Trump troll army, hurry-up and burry this post with troll or flamebait downmodding before someone else can read it, just like you did with my OP. For a bunch that keep bitching and whining about the fact that the evil liberals and "SJWs" keep suppressing your viewpoint and things they disagree with, you all seem exceedingly good at it yourselves fucking hypocrits.
The U.S. and Canada have an extradition treaty. Under that treaty, If any country emits an international arrest warrant, the other country must honor it. This is followed by a judicial hearing, where a judge will decide whether extradition to the country that emitted the warrant will be granted or not. Counsel of both parties (the country that emitted the warrant, and the defendant) will plead their cases during that hearing.
The prosecution must tell the court what accusations they intend to bring against the defendant, and the evidence they have gathered so far. Among other things, they must provide evidence that the crime the defendant is accused of is also a crime in the country where the arrest was made. They must also assure the court that if found guilty, the defendant will not be sentenced to the death penalty, if the deaf penalty doesn't exist in the country where the arrest happened. And finally, they must assure the court that the trial in the country asking for extradition will be fair, independant, and follow the Rule of Law.
On their side, the defense must cast doubt on any of the points above. If they succeed, then the judge will not grant extradition, and the defendant will be set free.
That's how extradition treaties work. That's how international law works. As others have mentionned, Venezuela and Canada don't have an extradition treaty.
Next time, I would advise you to take a few minutes to educate yourself about international law before plastering your ignorance all over the Internet, for everyone to see and wonder at.
"but omg, Trump, it's so unfair".
Sadly, this has been argued in court to injoin vactions of the Federal government.
"Well, it's legal for a president to do that but it's illegal for this president to do it.
I wish I were kidding.
The US wants to bust an exec from a company for violating US law.
I love that. So, next time there's another incident like where Wells Fargo had people creating millions of fake accounts, and charging fees to the people who had no idea what it was, we can JAIL THE CEOs, right? Or another oil spill, we get to JAIL THE CEOs?
This will go over well, once "real" people (i.e., CEOs) think about the impact....
How can the US have been "late" for WWII? Are you suggesting somebody was already defeating the Germans, and my grandparents just showed up to stand around?
Without the Americans, Europeans would have been speaking either German or Russian, not their native tongues.
They didn't just surrender, they made a tactical decision to go underground and wait for foreign allies to show up before fighting, in order to save Paris from being destroyed. And it worked.
It was a good call, the Americans were better prepared, constitutionally, to fight and win. For the same reasons that during WWI France and Germany built a bunch of opposing trenches and killed each other by the millions, but the Americans showed up and fought with a different attitude and finished the war quickly. Paris would have been utterly destroyed, with lots of dead soldiers, and nothing to show for it.
Russia's flag is red, white, and blue. Or if you want an easy way to remember it in the field, "mostly cloudy over a sea of blood." (white-blue-red)
Don't listen to so much propaganda; Freedom bleeds red. Scots Wah Hae, you could always ask them if you get confused about Uncle Sam.
The Soviet flag is red with a yellow hammer and sickle. Russia was part of the political entity The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics when the vast majority of the bleeding happened. A majority of bleeders (both by absolute number and, by a lesser margin, per capita) were ethnic Russian.
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