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'This Time It's Russia's Emails Getting Leaked' (thedailybeast.com)
"Russian oligarchs and Kremlin apparatchiks may find the tables turned on them," writes Kevin Poulsen at The Daily Beast, reporting on a new leak site that's unleashed "a compilation of hundreds of thousands of hacked emails and gigabytes of leaked documents."
"Think of it as WikiLeaks, but without Julian Assange's aversion to posting Russian secrets."
Slashdot reader hyades1 shared their report: The site, Distributed Denial of Secrets, was founded last month by transparency activists. Co-founder Emma Best said the Russian leaks, slated for release Friday, will bring into one place dozens of different archives of hacked material that, at best, have been difficult to locate, and in some cases appear to have disappeared entirely from the web. "Stuff from politicians, journalists, bankers, folks in oligarch and religious circles, nationalists, separatists, terrorists operating in Ukraine," said Best, a national-security journalist and transparency activist. "Hundreds of thousands of emails, Skype and Facebook messages, along with lots of docs...."
The site is a kind of academic library or a museum for leak scholars, housing such diverse artifacts as the files North Korea stole from Sony in 2014, and a leak from the Special State Protection Service of Azerbaijan.
The site's Russia section already includes a leak from Russia's Ministry of the Interior, portions of which detailed the deployment of Russian troops to Ukraine at a time when the Kremlin was denying a military presence there. Though some material from that leak was published in 2014, about half of it wasn't, and WikiLeaks reportedly rejected a request to host the files two years later, at a time when Julian Assange was focused on exposing Democratic Party documents passed to WikiLeaks by Kremlin hackers. "A lot of what WikiLeaks will do is organize and re-publish information that's appeared elsewhere," said Nicholas Weaver, a researcher at the University of California at Berkeley's International Computer Science Institute. "They've never done that with anything out of Russia."
The Russian documents were posted simultaneously on the DDoSecrets website and on the Internet Archive, notes the New York Times, adding that the new site has also posted a large archive of internal documents from WikiLeaks itself.
"Personally, I am disappointed by what I see as dishonest and egotistic behavior from Julian Assange and WikiLeaks," Best tells the Times. "But she added that she had made the Russian document collection available to WikiLeaks ahead of its public release on Friday, and had posted material favorable to Mr. Assange leaked from the Ecuadorean Embassy in London, where he has lived for more than six years to avoid arrest."
"Think of it as WikiLeaks, but without Julian Assange's aversion to posting Russian secrets."
Slashdot reader hyades1 shared their report: The site, Distributed Denial of Secrets, was founded last month by transparency activists. Co-founder Emma Best said the Russian leaks, slated for release Friday, will bring into one place dozens of different archives of hacked material that, at best, have been difficult to locate, and in some cases appear to have disappeared entirely from the web. "Stuff from politicians, journalists, bankers, folks in oligarch and religious circles, nationalists, separatists, terrorists operating in Ukraine," said Best, a national-security journalist and transparency activist. "Hundreds of thousands of emails, Skype and Facebook messages, along with lots of docs...."
The site is a kind of academic library or a museum for leak scholars, housing such diverse artifacts as the files North Korea stole from Sony in 2014, and a leak from the Special State Protection Service of Azerbaijan.
The site's Russia section already includes a leak from Russia's Ministry of the Interior, portions of which detailed the deployment of Russian troops to Ukraine at a time when the Kremlin was denying a military presence there. Though some material from that leak was published in 2014, about half of it wasn't, and WikiLeaks reportedly rejected a request to host the files two years later, at a time when Julian Assange was focused on exposing Democratic Party documents passed to WikiLeaks by Kremlin hackers. "A lot of what WikiLeaks will do is organize and re-publish information that's appeared elsewhere," said Nicholas Weaver, a researcher at the University of California at Berkeley's International Computer Science Institute. "They've never done that with anything out of Russia."
The Russian documents were posted simultaneously on the DDoSecrets website and on the Internet Archive, notes the New York Times, adding that the new site has also posted a large archive of internal documents from WikiLeaks itself.
"Personally, I am disappointed by what I see as dishonest and egotistic behavior from Julian Assange and WikiLeaks," Best tells the Times. "But she added that she had made the Russian document collection available to WikiLeaks ahead of its public release on Friday, and had posted material favorable to Mr. Assange leaked from the Ecuadorean Embassy in London, where he has lived for more than six years to avoid arrest."
There's all kinds of PII and PHI in that stolen information.
I'm sure these folks don't care, because, like Assange, they're trolls. When they're helping your side, they're described with superlatives. When they're harming your side, they're described with expletives. They don't care. They just do what they do for their own personal reasons.
It's called "Polonium-210"
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You are welcome on my lawn.
Hope the security is strong with you.
Fancy Bear just authorized unlimited overtime.
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Ernest Hemingway
The heck? Citation needed, EditorDavid...
I second this. However I'll wait until Glenn Greenwald checks in on this. If anyone can find a way to excuse Julian Assange he can.
Personally I have become disenchanted with Assange in various ways. He could have contributed so much more than he did but he persisted in making dumb choices, making it hard for the right people to take him seriously.
You moron. "Look over there, they are the bad guys."
There have been numerous leaks exposing Russian misbehavior, all of which are conspicuously absent from Wikileaks. Some of which are discussed in the fucking summary if you want a "citation."
Wikileaks was an awesome idea, and then Assange destroyed it when he let his ego get the best of him and turned it into an anti American disinformation machine.
You said conspiracy theory like it was bullshit, and then deep state like itâ(TM)s real. Convenient. Tool.
It could have been the Russians, who regularly undertake malicious activity. But it could also be China, or a leak from within the DNC, or the Awan spy ring, who had access to DNC chair Debbie Wasserman Schulz's computers and tablets, as well as those of some 40 other House Democrats.
It was Bernie!
He made the DNC "Feel the Bern!"
Schroedinger's Brexit: The UK is both in and out of the EU at the same time!
The reason he did so is because he viewed the US as beholden to powerful international foreign anti-journalist criminal interests like Saudi Arabia and Israel and wanted to expose the worldwide surveillance was being used for evil.
When Snowden leaked that trove and Assange became a pariah-with-teeth, he became an enemy of the state+8. That became a consuming distraction for him as... it probably would for most people. He's very human, flawed.
I do think at one point they could have called him an independent journalist hack who didn't play by any rules but his own, but that's not much of a title or compliment really. Still, wikileaks did both good and bad things.
To assume it's all black or white is to have no idea about how things really are. It's always both.
Guccifer 2.0 is presumed to be the "person" who supplied the DNC emails to wikileaks and, quoting wikipedia, "The U.S. Intelligence Community concluded that some of the genuine leaks that Guccifer 2.0 has said were part of a series of cyberattacks on the DNC were committed by two Russian intelligence groups. This conclusion is based on analyses conducted by various private sector cybersecurity individuals and firms, including CrowdStrike, Fidelis Cybersecurity, Fireeye's Mandiant, SecureWorks, ThreatConnect, Trend Micro, and the security editor for Ars Technica.". Wikipedia provides numerous citations to back that up. idk if the U.S. Intelligence Community conducted analysis above and beyond what the private sector cybersecurity firms did but I think it's a safe assumption that they did.
Of course, I suppose you can always dismiss the U.S. Intelligence Community's analysis if you assume that it's all part of the deep state conspiracy against Trump. And the private sector firms... I guess Trump supporters can just dismiss them as peddlers of fake news too.
The heck? Citation needed, EditorDavid...
Why would he need to post a citation for someone else's statement? You do know what quote markers mean, right?
Black Russian: Kahlua & Vodka.
White Russian: Kahlua & Vodka & Cream.
Dead Russian: Polonium & Novichok.
Garnish with an umbrella swizzle stick laced with Ricin.
Although, considering what Saudi Arabia was allowed to do to Jamal Khashoggi . . . this really isn't something we should be making fun of . . .
Schroedinger's Brexit: The UK is both in and out of the EU at the same time!
We're sorry, but EditorDavid is not the author of TFA.
It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
Pegging is not homosexual. It is a perfectly normal activity between a man and a woman. At least that's what my wife keeps telling me.
You are welcome on my lawn.
They play by different rules, which are closer to mafia tactics. For the folks running the site or stealing the docs nothing is off limits as long as there is no direct link to the top.
You are correct, and there's a little more:
1.) Assange began his high profile association with Wikileaks as a spokesperson, only. That essentially made him immune to legal action because he made it clear he did not have anything to do with the internals of WL.
Later, when pissed off governments wanted his young ass, he changed his job description to, "journalist," in an effort to be immune by way of freedom of the press.
2.) WL itself fell off the radar and had very little in the way of exciting revelations and donations fell dramatically. They stepped back into the news cycle by violating their own strict rules of conduct by creating publicity prior to data releases.
Donors didn't bite and WL went to hell.
I've studied both Wikileaks and Assange for years and I admired their first efforts but that all soured when Assage's ego and WL's financials went in opposite directions.
It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
"Think of it as WikiLeaks, but without Julian Assange's aversion to posting Russian secrets."
That might be a good tactic.
I reserve the write to mangle english.
Someone at Slashdot ...
You don't appear to be new here but you sure act like it.
Do you suppose there's any way at all that you can discover who actually authored TFA?
It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
Someone at Slashdot seems to be pushing the "Russia supplied Wikileaks with the DNC hack info" theory as fact when it hasn't been proven.
It hasn't been proven to you. Do not presume to know what intelligence agencies know.
But the Russia theory is pushed above all because that's the one that fuels Democratic activist outrage and the "Russian collusion" fantasy
People aren't being indicted and convicted because it's a fantasy.
Cue up the cries of "Russian bot" in 5...4...3...
I don't think you're a Russian bot but I do think you are useful idiot.
Also noticed that you are just copypastaing your own site and call everything that doesn't agree with you a "hard-left outlet".
Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
Again, pegging is not a "traditionally homosexual fashion". And there's no shame in enjoying being dominated sexually by a woman. You should try it sometime. Trump himself enjoyed being spanked with a rolled up magazine by Stormy Daniels.
You are welcome on my lawn.
Well, you did just fail the Reverse Turing Test...
"I know I will be modded down for this": where's the option '-1, Asking for it'?
Your #2 is rather strange, considering that WL was deplatformed from almost every payment system in existence very rapidly under pressure.
For ages, the Russians attacked the "Western Establishment" (i.e. anybody in government or law enforcement who was capable and not corrupt). Now, it's our time to settle the score, and take the "Russian Establishment" (who are all Chekists and serious organised criminals), down a few pegs.
Well, the Russian "Establishment" don't like it up them, do they? BOO HOO! Sucks to be you, Chekist scum. Turnabout is fair play, and karma is a magnificent righteous, vicious BITCH. Enjoy payback, arseholes.
Hats off to the people brave enough to do this. Stinky Julian Assange, being the Russophile lickspittle he is, never had the cojones to offend his GRU masters.
No commodity of any kind, way, shape or form is unfundable on the Internet. You know that. Look at Silk Road.
The payment methods you mention are outdated. If that were not true, the Dark Web would have no market.
It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
You are a Russia shill.
That's right.
Hybrid warfare is only okay when Russian three-letter agencies do it.
Right, got it ;-)
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"The reason he did so is because he viewed the US as beholden to powerful international foreign anti-journalist criminal interests like Saudi Arabia and Israel and wanted to expose the worldwide surveillance was being used for evil."
Unlike the Russian government which is all teddy bears and moonbeams and under no circumstances would they shut down non governmental media outlets and order the extra judicial murders of journalists or poison former citizens on foreign soil. No no , not at all. Squeaky clean is Putin.
Its fucking incredible that in the 21st century there are still pathetic Russian apologists in the west no matter what the Russians do. Whilst the Russia people are no better or worse than anyone else in the world, their politicians are and have been for at least 100 years, psychopathic scumbags who will literally do anything to gain and keep power.
Squeaky clean is Putin.
"I would have expected better from British boys," said the officer.
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
People aren't being indicted and convicted of collusion with Russia. There's even a handy table that summarizes the charges for you.
Also, I am hard left.
You say that like there isn't an uncollected power establishment composed of corporations and appointed officials. Who votes for positions on the Council on Foreign Relations? Who voted for all the CIA officials who lied to Congress while spying on Congress? The ones that spy on presidential candidates and even elected presidents? These are undisputable facts, not Alex Jones rambling about the Illuminati or the Rothschilds. Fuck, man, it's only within the last week that a deputy director of the FBI admitted on live television that it's their job to suppress the wrong sort of people from getting elected to government.
Total. Shit. For. Brains. You, and your upraters.
News flash: On the west coast, pegging is perfectly normal. Has been for decades.
All manner of sexual appetites between consenting adults are perfectly normal, and you insistence otherwise is simply anti-human.
If you want to discover how intollerant you are, just come out to the west coast and visit an "adult store." And then visit 5 or 10 more just to double-check that you weren't in an unusual one the first time; every neighborhood for 1000 miles sells tools for the mentioned activities, because they are perfectly normal activities that consenting adults engage in.
You mind me of the people in the 1980s who were trying to argue that an accepting attitude towards tattoos is harmful to the people getting tattoos, because you had a fantasy where in the end they regret it. But no, up is not down, tolerance is not oppression.
Trump got pegged by Pelosi because she's an alpha, and he's a beta. And his followers are zetas, that's why they didn't know who was who until they saw the santorum spray. Decent people don't care about either part, it is merely funny. Experiencing revulsion or outrage simply tells you that you have internalized bigotry and stereotypes. Don't project that onto others, just try to find a way to deal with it and be more of the person you wished you were.
It is OK if you accidentally had that fantasy while she was pegging you. It probably doesn't mean you're gay, but only you can answer that.
Either way, it is OK. Accept your feelings, they are yours alone, and they're potentially your most valuable possession. That's up to you, though.
If you want people to celebrate him, you're going to have to shoot him, because alive he's a participant in events, not some sort of "messenger."
You might want to visit the library and open a newspaper, those conspiracy videos are getting to you.
You seem about 2 years behind on current events. I guess that is the last time you made it to the surface.
>I wonder if we'll end up with an online version of Spy vs. Spy
All the better, says I. I'd rather have both sides' secrets public, than either only one's, or, even worse, none at all. Quoting Erasmus: Give light, and the darkness will disappear of itself.
Watmonger: noun
1) A tour guide specializing in Buddhist religious sites
2) An incense peddler
Far too many of my fellow Democrats seem to have come down with TDS lately. The reality is that Pelosi and Schumer did nothing but block everything while the President at least tried to negotiate with them. Now the situation we have is the government is temporarily open until Feb. 15th. where it might get shut down again because of Pelosi and Schumer's hated of Trump. 2008, Pelosi stated she wanted a wall, 2009 Schumer did the same, and of course in 2014 Hillary stated that she wanted to build a wall while on the campaign trail. With a budget of 4.whatever trillion dollars, 5.7 billion is a burp and we need to improve security on the southern border. Anyone saying otherwise is just plan ignorant, a liar, or both. Constantly posting the same anti trump rhetoric has become meaningless on slashdot. You keep doing a copy paste job with zero insight. Trump will not be impeached snd Pelosi has said as much. Rodger Stone is being charged with lying to Congress and has no connection to trump beyond that no matter how much you wish.
What is the portion of people out of all users of internet that know how to pay on dark web sites?
It works for determined people buying illegal shit and willing to jump through a lot of hoops and pay a lot for processing their payment. It doesn't work for everyone else.
Bitchute is a site aimed at "everyone else". Ergo, the problem.
The US documents got walked out by a human.
Like the Pentagon papers. A domestic political release to the media.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
Anything of any interest in Russia is
In the minds of a small group of people doing something interesting.
On a paper in a safe in a walk in vault in a secure mil/science city.
On paper in a safe in a secure building.
Should Russia need a "Super Computer" such work is done on site with a computer. No networks outside needed.
One task gets one super computer on site.
The exception would be university science, academic networks to gather real time data from all over Russia/globally.
Russia is well networked but not in a way the NSA and GCHQ expects.
Want great Russia secrets? Have the MI6/CIA recruit a real Russia worker with access to a building/site/mil and have them "photograph" the papers of interest.
Offer the person in Russia a deal and ask them collect the data.
Use internet to send data sets back to West.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
The subject is Wikileaks.
Die-hard fans were able to donate plenty post-mainstream payment ban. Not enough people wanted to.
Why should they? You know as well as I do that people's attention span lasts only as long as the lightning strike.
It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
Russia and the Soviet union did not grow up with digital data in the same way as USA.
Under Soviet Union a super computer with network was something very special and something to wait for.
Requests for such fully imported or a domestically produced copy of a western computer system was not easy to make.
Getting such a system was a real effort. The real work done on such a computer had to be approved and tracked.
Home computers played copies of games, allowed people to learn code. To understand hardware and software to write better games.
To repair hardware and fix home computers so they could be used again.
To play and share western games. To translate. To work on a way to get every extra amount of computing power out of 8 bit home computers.
The 1990's saw a flood of consumer and new US imports. US OS, hardware and networks. Some attempts by Russia to make its own OS, own CPU.
Did Russia trust all the low cost US consumer computers they could now import and network? No.
NSA, CIA and GCHQ altered shipments of powerful new computer parts exported at "cost" to Russians who get a market opening deal/discount.
Russia new most of its new networks that "had" to be connected to do business would be the start of projects like FAIRVIEW, STORMBREW, GERONTIC.
To place large amounts of secret data onto a network was not an option as it was not something people did over the decades in academic/science/mil work.
A super computer existed to work on a complex problem in a set time.
A different culture to database and networking use.
The fully networked computer system is in a secure building. No networks exist outside the building, into the city, to the internet.
With guards, a strong esprit de corps and real security clearances. Staff have full background investigations and don't get to wonder in and out of "work" with their smart phones. Staff at that level of security are politically reliable.
Lots of home computers are connected globally but that is for domestic/fun/consumer/business use.
What is online in Russia as gov datas sets is honeypot/bait/trap. A lot of powerful looking information left around to see if anyone is spying, what makes to West.
Fictional projects, code words, funding that is "easy" to spy out on an open network that connects direct into Russia.
Want data on Russia? Make a human spy and have them copy and walk data out for CIA/MI6.
CIA/MI6 would never allow such datasets to be published in real time, 10-20 years later.
In 70 to 100 years some approved historian might get to hint at what the NSA/CIA/GCQH/MI6 did in Russia in 2019 in a book chapter that was cleared for publication.
That some Russian walked out of work with a large data set they copied.
That an aircraft, ferry/truck route was used to transport Russian mil equipment out on bulk.
No western security service would ever publish material found, methods decades after such methods got used.
So what is found in Russia that can be publish in the West on real time?
If it was real data from Russia, it would be in the hands of Western security services and never to be talked about.
Want to know about Western spying in Russia in 2019? Read a history book that was approved for publication about what was done before 1950.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
A quick glance through wikileaks shows quite a lot of russian secrets. EditorDavid seems to have drank the koolaid.
That's my porn name. Don't wear it out.
You are welcome on my lawn.
You've confused me with someone else.
You are welcome on my lawn.
The reason he did so is because he viewed the US as beholden to powerful international foreign anti-journalist criminal interests like Saudi Arabia and Israel and wanted to expose the worldwide surveillance was being used for evil.
Yah, no, Assange has no beliefs. He's just an attention whole who needs a transfusion of capital from time to time.
When all you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a thumb.
That you would conflate life and death information about US empire (as are readily found in WikiLeaks publications) with personal peccadilloes about Assange speaks very badly about you and your priorities, and says nothing about Assange or WikiLeaks. Greenwald has made an impressive reputation for keeping his comments on very important matters of state and not letting personal trifles steer him from informing us about what we ought to consider. So much of this ad job promoting these leaks reads the opposite way: Emma Best's own words, the coverage of Emma Best's work here come off as vague attempts at trying to downplay the importance of WikiLeaks and distract away from the content of the leaks via vastly overstated claims about Assange's ego. I don't care how big his ego is; given the importance of the leaks WikiLeaks and Greenwald have published I say they're both incredibly important to the public. And guilt by association with parties (it's assumed) we're not supposed to like (oh no -- Russians!) is remarkably clueless (such as the recent New York Times article about Emma Best) given that the NYT was fine to base articles on WikiLeaks leaks not that long ago.
Digital Citizen
Yeah, the conspicuous absence of any U.S. intelligence (or anything else embarrassing to the U.S,) on this "leaks" site screams CIA/NSA operation to me. They had may as well put their logos on the home page.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
So you think russia has decommisioned its nuclear arsenal? You're a fucking clown.
My affiliations are hugging the goddam Internet since its birth.
You're what I call a linksta. You throw a lot of links you know I won't read because I've been studying this since it surfaced.
Your links aren't going to add value to my real-time follow.
And, I already answered your redundant question.
Stop popping and start hopping.
It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
The reality is that Pelosi and Schumer did nothing but block everything while the President at least tried to negotiate with them.
The situation was:
* Democrats, Republicans, and the White house negotiated a deal in December where $1.6B was put in the budget to improve border security. This was to cover a bunch of things that would actually make the border more secure, but would not cover a wall. Note also that this was when Republicans controlled the house.
* The senate passed this budget deal with a total of 94-6 or so.
* Some right wing pundits complained that Trump was backing away from his promise.
* Trump reneged on the budget deal and decided he would accept nothing but $5.7B for the wall, no other options, no negotiating.
* Paul Ryan refused to bring the budget deal it to a vote in the House.
* The shutdown started.
Honest question: do you disagree with these facts? If so, what did I get wrong? And if not, how does this involve Pelosi blocking and Trump negotiating?
Because non-diehard fans are likely the bulk of donors, and their activity would drive a lot of people interested in seeing the curated English leaks that wikileaks specializes in. Which in turn would have prevented the current insane narrative of them being an agent of Russian government. The only reason that stuck to some extent, is because there aren't enough people invested in wikileaks to debunk the narrative to their friends when US propaganda machine spun on to do its thing.
Deplatforming ensured that this amount of people would not be allowed to get invested into wikileaks, and support would be limited to die-hard fans only.
You don't even sound progressive to me. Is this what the AM radio told you progressives think, or did you learn about it at the bar?
To go back to the good old days when 75% of Americans thought Saddam had WMD's and was involved in 911.
To repeat for the indoctrinated...how do you think that happened, exactly?
You wanna try that again while sober?