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iRobot Unveils Terra, a Roomba Lawn Mower (venturebeat.com)

Krystalo writes: iRobot is best known for making vacuum cleaner robots: the infamous Roomba lineup. But the company also makes mopping robots (Braava lineup), pool cleaning robots (Mirra lineup), a bot to help clean gutters, and even programmable robots (Create lineup). So, what's next for your home? A lawn mower robot. Queue the "get off my lawn" jokes.

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  1. Is this new? by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 5, Informative

    Is this new, I mean, it might be new for iRobot, but haven't lawn mower robots been a thing for a while now? iRobot entering the market place might be a big player coming, probably one that can be marketed towards "common man", but I swear we've had companies with robot lawnmowers for a decade or more now.

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    1. Re:Is this new? by mccalli · · Score: 1

      There has been and the article mentions them, however there are a couple of interesting bits. The first is that most require you to sink wire boundaries all around the lawn whereas apparently this one does not. The second, as you say, is the entry of iRobot into this area.

      I've been watching this area for a while as I'd find one very useful. Be interested in knowing price.

    2. Re:Is this new? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are as lazy as you are stupid. Go hire someone to pick up after your dog and mow your lawn, that brings you much closer to actually getting it done. This shitty gimmick robot is not going to do the job. 1/2 a brain knows that, why don't you?

    3. Re:Is this new? by bgrahambo · · Score: 1

      hey man, you ok? Did the iRobot run over your dogshit? That is a pretty nasty way to be turned off to our young robotic helpers.

    4. Re:Is this new? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are as lazy as you are stupid. Go hire someone to pick up after your dog and mow your lawn, that brings you much closer to actually getting it done. This shitty gimmick robot is not going to do the job. 1/2 a brain knows that, why don't you?

    5. Re:Is this new? by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      Most of them are from home made robotics enthusiast, not a commercial for sell product.
      The biggest hurtle I see is legal vs technological. What happens if this mower mows over your cat, your dogs tail, or your kids favorite toy. Now a company like iRobot we would hope would have enough safety features to prevent harm, and if they did they would have insurance to help compensate for your damage.

      Now if I had one of these things, I would not try to push its safety features to its limits (bring in the pets, make sure the lawn is clear of stuff), but there are a lot of stupid people out there.

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    6. Re:Is this new? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Disclosure: I worked for iRobot for several years fairly high up the management chain and departed in the late aughts.

      iRobot has been looking for an act 2 for more than a decade now. The Roomba was a huge financial success, selling over 32 million units (and my data is from back when I worked there - the actual number is likely higher now), but even almost a decade ago we could see the sell curve falling and many, many competitors entering the market, several with long vacuum cleaner histories (Dyson). We made the Scooba (the mopping robot) - didn't sell very many. The Swiffer (TM) robot - sold even less of those. Branched out into home security and monitoring - went nowhere. Personal persistence robots (those things that are like an iPad on wheels that someone stuck at home can log into and roll around at school or the office like they're really there) - ours was super expensive (our top competitor was actually an iPad on wheels) and we never cracked the market. We spun off the military robot division to reduce distractions. And now there's a lawnmower.

      I didn't see a strategic vision then, and I don't see one now. iRobot - cool name, one lucky product, shortly to be relegated to the dustbin of history.

    7. Re:Is this new? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Completely false. There are numerous manufacturers that have these.

      The blades on most of them are basically light razors - they mow every day per the schedule you set and if the blade hits something it rotates back. The small amount of grass that gets cut apparently is good for the plant and lawns that use these are generally lusher (right word?) than those cut traditionally.

    8. Re:Is this new? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're redefining what it means to "mow a lawn" now, to make this product viable? Wow. I mean, I shouldn't be surprised. Idiocy knows no bounds.

    9. Re:Is this new? by Knuckles · · Score: 1

      I've had a Robomow commercial product for years, Husquarna/Gardena (big garden tool brands in Europe) have mowers as well, as have various other manufacturers

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    10. Re:Is this new? by Knuckles · · Score: 1

      You're redefining what it means to "mow a lawn" now, to make this product viable? Wow. I mean, I shouldn't be surprised. Idiocy knows no bounds.

      He's wrong. There are different methods, but all actually do cut the grass

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    11. Re:Is this new? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wrong. There are and have been quite a few commerical companies making these.

    12. Re:Is this new? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wasn't the iScooba the pool cleaner robot? I forget the name of the mopping one.

    13. Re:Is this new? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know you're trolling, but for the benefit of others, I'll point out how wrong you are. I've been using a RoboMow for years, and it does a superb job, better than most humans. I just pull it out of the storage shed every spring, put it on its base, and turn it on, and my lawn is in perfect golf course condition until it's time to put it away for the next winter. Unbeatable.

    14. Re:Is this new? by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 1

      Then they also started to sell off the mapped interior data to third parties to "server the customers better." When they started doing that, and not having a way to turn the "feature" off, is when I decided to stop looking for a robot vacuum as you know the competitors will be doing it too.

  2. Dogs by mccalli · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Would love one but alas - three dogs. Which means manually cleaning up the lawn on a regular basis, for obvious reasons. What I would pay for a robot that would handle that clean up for me...

    1. Re:Dogs by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      Hmmm... that shouldn't be too hard actually. Probably easier than a lawn mowing robot. And I bet there are a lot of people who would pay a few hundred bucks for such a thing.

    2. Re:Dogs by mccalli · · Score: 1

      Start the Kickstarter! You'd make millions. Millions, from time-pressed dog owners such as myself. Oh, and people who just plain don't like the task...also like me.

    3. Re:Dogs by JoshuaHutchinson · · Score: 1

      You may have found the perfect Kickstarter idea! Even my kids would donate their allowance money for that one! (They only get roped into cleanup a couple times a year when a "party" is going to happen at the house, but it's enough for them to hate it!)

    4. Re:Dogs by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      Looks like there are a fair number of them in the works. Here's one from CES:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

      My favourite part of the second video: "Are you interested in joining our mailing list" "um..."

      Should make the thing pick up leaves too.

    5. Re:Dogs by Thud457 · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's not automatically picking up the dog poop that is the problem.

      The problem is limited battery life prevents automatically delivering the dog poop to Washington.

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    6. Re:Dogs by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      Hm... I found a flying poop scooping drone. Would make delivery quicker, but doesn't fix the battery life issue.

    7. Re:Dogs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      Enjoy cleaning it, you lazy idiots deserve that.

    8. Re:Dogs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why don't you get a robot dog? It doesn't shit all over the place.

    9. Re:Dogs by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      Would love one but alas - three dogs. Which means manually cleaning up the lawn on a regular basis, for obvious reasons. What I would pay for a robot that would handle that clean up for me...

      Well, it dries up pretty fast, why not just mow it into the grass as fertilizer?

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    10. Re:Dogs by pr0fessor · · Score: 1

      Doesn't have to go to the vet, take heartworm, flea and tick, go on the carpet, get fur on everything, chew on stuff, get in the trash, wake you up in the middle of the night to go out, and would probably cost a lot less.

    11. Re:Dogs by pr0fessor · · Score: 1

      Gives parasites and harmful bacteria a place to live and thrive which can be very bad if you have young kids and dog waste doesn't make good fertilizer it's too high in nitrogen and phosphorus.

    12. Re:Dogs by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      It's not automatically picking up the dog poop that is the problem.

      Why not just mow the poop into the lawn as fertilizer?

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    13. Re:Dogs by goose-incarnated · · Score: 3, Informative

      It's not automatically picking up the dog poop that is the problem.

      Why not just mow the poop into the lawn as fertilizer?

      Because poop from carnivores makes terrible fertilizer.

      Actual fertilizer is digested grass (comes from herbivores).

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    14. Re:Dogs by rjr162 · · Score: 1

      It's been done! It's call Va-poo-rize!

    15. Re:Dogs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Two words, friend: "Mulch Mower".

    16. Re:Dogs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      thats called a lawnmower - Just run over the poop and grind it up. It fertilizes the grass.

    17. Re:Dogs by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

      I wish iRobot would build a Robot that could also vacuum stairs; I guess I will have to do it myself.

  3. Ass wiping robot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's what I'm waiting for. Here I am, after having a huge shit, having to wipe my OWN ass like a chump.

    1. Re: Ass wiping robot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just fly Taiwan Air

  4. What could possibly go wrong? by jgrimard · · Score: 1

    What could possibly go wrong?

  5. Pet Safety by forkfail · · Score: 1

    Have to wonder how long until we start hearing the horror stories of the neighborhood cat or playful puppy having an unfortunate encounter with these things...

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    1. Re:Pet Safety by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Well, I guess Fluffy now needs a new name...

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    2. Re:Pet Safety by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You really think neighborhood package thieves are going to leave this thing behind? Easiest $200 they ever made. Pets know a waste of time gimmick, they'll stay away from it. This is for lazy assholes without common sense.

    3. Re:Pet Safety by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Modern robomowers at least have some bricking functionality available to make them less desirable to steal.

    4. Re:Pet Safety by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah like that's going to stop the thieves even if it did work, which it doesn't. You can get around it trivially.

  6. their only 10 years behind... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I've been using the husquavarna automower for the last year and it works great.

    1. Re:their only 10 years behind... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try 20 years. Friendly Robotics/Robomow. I got one in 2002 from Amazon and they had been available since at least 1999. The newer models of the same product line are still sold today.

  7. Just effing stupid. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's no way this will do as good a job as a person, it will gunk up and fail on any real lawn and you'll have bought some failed gimmick instead of hiring some local kid who could use the work. The whole idea is dumb.

    Of course now we'll hear from all the lazy libertarians who think less physical exertion on their part is the only goal in life, but wait until they realize this doesn't deliver that. Then the real whining begins.

    1. Re:Just effing stupid. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That hasn't been the case with the Robomow I bought 17 years ago. It used to get suck on a rock or something at first, but you just need to adjust things a bit.
      I liked the cool new (at the time) technology, not so much the lack of physical exertion.

  8. I knew I should have been an attorney by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 2

    >> lawn-mowing robot

    So many negligence and injury cases are about to get queued up.

    Think of the difference of a relies-on-smooth-floors, air-sucking machine moving around your locked home when you're not around vs. a powerful-enough-to-push-through-stiff-grass, blade-slashing machine moving around a neighborhood full of other people's kids and dogs.

    Maybe I should go get that law degree after all.

    1. Re:I knew I should have been an attorney by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nothing new, I’ve seen robot mowers in large parks where I live.

      Although who knows when you have hundreds of them going off without supervision

    2. Re:I knew I should have been an attorney by bgrahambo · · Score: 1

      You're not thinking very critically. When designing a robot, you don't start with a current human appropriate standard, strap on autonomy, and hope it doesn't kill anything. There are all kinds of "from-the-ground-up" redesigns that can be done because of the different size and time economies of robots, as well as safety considerations. Think small, light, and uses something more like a weed eater string as a cutting tool.

    3. Re:I knew I should have been an attorney by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 1

      >> weed eater string

      https://kytrial.com/man-who-was-injured-while-using-trimmer-awarded-5-78-million/

    4. Re:I knew I should have been an attorney by dryeo · · Score: 1

      Weed eater string rips rather then cuts, which injures the grass. Ideal would be (safety) scissors or a miniature reel mower. Rather then sharp, two right angle surfaces with about a thou of clearance between them.

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  9. Ho Hum by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    There are several "robot lawn mowers" on the market already, from the likes of Honda, Husqvarna, and Worx. While iRobot brings it's own expertise to the field, it will still have to play "catch up" with the established (and deep-pocketed) vendors. I applaud iRobot for the effort, but I feel that their offering is more of a "we need to at least show our face" effort than a "we are the market leader" face.

    For me, I have little need of a robot lawn mower. It is a pleasure to cut my meager suburban lawn in the summer; warm days with sun and refreshments make cutting the lawn a pleasure.

    What would sell me is a robot snowblower. When the snow comes down in buckets and the cold winds blow, I'd rather be warm and cozy indoors than freezing my nether-regions off while shoveling many metric tons of snow off of my driveway.

  10. Is this a good idea? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1, Funny

    A robot with spinning blades called Terror...

    History will look back on the great Man vs. Machine War that started when lawnmowers demanded suffrage and wonder what iRobot were thinking.

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    1. Re: Is this a good idea? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I literally cant wait to watch my lawn mowing robot. I just got one. I lie in bed at night and whisper I have a lawn mowing robot. Then I feel bad even though the robot is in the other room and obviously out of hearing range and I say a lawn mowing robot has me.

    2. Re:Is this a good idea? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IMO, a lawn mowing robot that operates on the same principal as a weed wacker (eg thin filament, not blades) would be the best way to actually cut the lawn properly. Existing lawn mowing systems require the lawn to be entirely flat, and if there are any bumps (Eg from tree roots) the blades scalp the lawn.

      The problem I see is scaling up. If it's designed to cut and mulch the grass and re-deposit it on the lawn, then I think that will suffice. If it simply sucks it into a grass catcher, then you have a waste item to deal with. On the other hand if you have 4 acres of lawn, I don't think a tiny robot would be able to deal with it. It would need to be a series of robots that communicate with each other and go "ok Alpha do the northeast quadrant, Beta do the northwest quadrant, delta do the southwest quadrant and tango do all the trees and the 3m around the actual house in the southeast quadrant."

      The Roomba is an interesting concept alone, but it's practically useless because of it's size. If most peoples houses are clutter-free, and things like chair and table legs aren't an issue, it can sure enough clean the kitchen and living room. But peoples bedrooms and bathrooms, nope. That's all I need is for the roomba to find a sock or some panties and catch fire when it gets stuck.

    3. Re:Is this a good idea? by ClickOnThis · · Score: 3, Funny

      A robot with spinning blades called Terror...

      History will look back on the great Man vs. Machine War that started when lawnmowers demanded suffrage and wonder what iRobot were thinking.

      This.

      Do you want Skynet? Because this is how you get Skynet.

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    4. Re:Is this a good idea? by michelcolman · · Score: 1

      Our Husqvarna mower works with small razor blades that can pivot freely around an axis. Centrifugal force allows them to cut grass without problems, but they rotate away above the protective cover whenever they hit something hard. Keeps the blades from being damaged too easily, and as an added benefit also protects limbs.

      This is our second robot, we bought the first one about 12 years ago so it's hardly a new concept.

  11. This market could use more competition by chrysrobyn · · Score: 2

    I've got a 6 acre plot, 4 of which is mowed. Generally this takes me 3 hours every Saturday during the warm months. I would love a robot mower. So far, they have all been random paths, except for some prototyping in Ardumower. Random paths are great for suburbia but they just can't cover large open spaces.

    This market could really use someone who can handle straight paths. My kind of yard doesn't mind some radio beacons to help with DGPS signals, but fence type transmitters far from the home will be tough. In-ground wires aren't too much of an issue.

    Right now, the only automatic mowers I can find that can handle more than 2 acres are more than my zero turn mower. Not that that's a deal breaker, but I would need to buy two to cover my whole yard -- which is the problem.

    1. Re:This market could use more competition by 110010001000 · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Why do you mow 4 acres?

    2. Re:This market could use more competition by chrysrobyn · · Score: 3, Informative

      Same reason most people mow their yards, whether they know it or not, to keep mice and rats away from the home. I'm in an area with a lot of hay fields, so a lot of unchecked rodents. It's not perfectly effective, but keeping a big buffer from the main home, the detached garage and the pool is important to me and my family.

    3. Re:This market could use more competition by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

      Interesting. I'm glad rodents are too lazy to go the extra acre. All those people with less than 4 acre properties must be absolutely infested.

    4. Re:This market could use more competition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why are you so poor that you can't hire an immigrant to do it for you?

    5. Re:This market could use more competition by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 1

      In his defense, rodents aren’t too keen on big open spaces where they can be picked-off by birds.

    6. Re:This market could use more competition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would love a robot mower. So far, they have all been random paths, except for some prototyping in Ardumower. Random paths are great for suburbia but they just can't cover large open spaces.

      Well, I have owned a Bosch Indego now for three years (actually on 2nd generation now which has a mobile app as remote), and that has had intelligent cutting (mapping the garden and cutting in parallel lines) from the beginning. For more info, see Bosch Indego video on Youtube

    7. Re:This market could use more competition by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      Most people with less than 4 acre properties have neighbours... who mow their lawns. Try not mowing your lawn in suburbia for a while and see how the neighbours react.

    8. Re:This market could use more competition by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 1

      Interesting. I'm glad rodents are too lazy to go the extra acre. All those people with less than 4 acre properties must be absolutely infested.

      To be fair, the OP said they were surrounded by hay fields. So I would guess that they are in a rural area.

      Have you been to Chicago, NYC, LA or DC? I was in Baltimore a couple years ago and rat ran out of an overgrown yard crossed the street and climbed the rain spout of another house. This was in the middle of the day. It looked like it weighed at least 3 lbs.

    9. Re:This market could use more competition by pr0fessor · · Score: 1

      You forgot about all the other wild life and insects that enjoy high grass.

      People don't really think about why we do certain things like mowing the lawn. Usually if you are going to plant any thing that flowers you would place it away from the house I see things like lilacs up against the house attracting bees and ants. I see trees too close to the water pipes, sewer pipes, or power lines. Mulberry trees to close to the house and driveway they clog up the gutters, drop mulberries on the car, the drive, stain everything, attract birds, and insects.

    10. Re:This market could use more competition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In my neighborhood the lots are 5-10 ac, mostly wooded. This doesn't appear to be attractive to rats. There are mice outdoors, and voles, but it is only a problem for gardening. Maybe your environment is different.

    11. Re:This market could use more competition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Interesting. I'm glad rodents are too lazy to go the extra acre. All those people with less than 4 acre properties must be absolutely infested.

      Why are you always such an obtuse jackass? Obviously the 4 acres closest to the house are mowed, leaving the outer 2 acres unmowed. The rodents would have to cross a wide clearing to get to the house, providing an opportunity to be picked off by predators. It is no moat of fire, but it is a deterrent that prevents them from nesting within a convenient distance.

    12. Re:This market could use more competition by rjr162 · · Score: 1

      Yup, damn ticks.

    13. Re:This market could use more competition by dryeo · · Score: 1

      It can be for fire suppression too. Short dry grass doesn't burn the same as long dry grass. Helps if you're somewhere where you can't water in the middle/end of summer.

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  12. I, for one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...welcome our new robot overlords.

  13. just leave it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Picking up dog shit is for losers. I just leave it where it falls as free fertilizer. Sometimes home owners try to make an issue out of it, but a quick flash of my sig p220 shuts them right up.

    1. Re:just leave it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah, that lovely word that saves us all so much time by flagging that the rest of the post is an utter waste of time to even read.

  14. Old tech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Robomow

  15. This is Awesome! The Next-Gen Lawnmower by crow · · Score: 1

    There are several posts about how this is about time. If you read the article, you'll see that this is a huge step above anything out there now. All existing robotic lawnmowers require you to bury a wire around the perimeter of your lawn. It's essentially the same technology as the invisible fence that many dog owners use to keep pets in their yards. This is fine if you have a nice contiguous lawn, but if you have sidewalks and driveways breaking up your grass, it can be a huge pain. The Roomba system uses beacon transmitters to give it precise location information. This makes setting it up for your lawn much simpler, especially if you have weird geometries to deal with.

    I'm excited.

    If it goes well and they do a full roll-out, I'll likely buy one next spring.

    For people who pay for a landscaping service, this would likely pay for itself the first year, two tops (well, unless the prices are insane; we'll see).

    1. Re: This is Awesome! The Next-Gen Lawnmower by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just hate that my stupid robot wants me to sit on the porch in a see through sun dress with a pitcher of spiked lemonade and come out and kiss it and tell it how horny it makes me. I keep thinking it will get bored but it never does. I am so bored. All I do is bounce the baby and say look at the robot and the perfect ninety degree angle it is turning

  16. CUE the jokes motherfuckers!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    English, motherfucker, do you speak it?

    1. Re:CUE the jokes motherfuckers!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      they can ask that at the wall too

    2. Re: CUE the jokes motherfuckers!!! by houghi · · Score: 1

      Only as third language.

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    3. Re: CUE the jokes motherfuckers!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Que?

    4. Re:CUE the jokes motherfuckers!!! by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      Goodness....will someone PLEASE think of all the poor displaced illegal immigrants that will be out of work by these new and improved lawn robots?!!??

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    5. Re: CUE the jokes motherfuckers!!! by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 1

      Que?

      Quebec?

    6. Re: CUE the jokes motherfuckers!!! by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      Que?

      Quebec?

      Sorry, I don't speak Canadian.

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    7. Re:CUE the jokes motherfuckers!!! by GLMDesigns · · Score: 1

      Maybe that's why we need to rethink our immigration policy. This isn't the 1880s. We don't need millions of strong backs and a willingness to work. These jobs, taxi drivers, truck drivers, warehouse workers, maintenance jobs (cleaning) are going to employ an ever dwindling amount of people. One person will be able to supervise numerous robots.

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    8. Re: CUE the jokes motherfuckers!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think we'll need to change a thing. Supply and demand. Immigrants need jobs. If there are no more jobs for them here, they will no longer give a shit about coming here. Of course, we will probably automate existing Americans out of work too, and nobody seems to want to address that, so we will have a class of ultra-rich with jobs and ultra poor with no purpose. Sounds like we may need an emmigration policy instead.

  17. YOU ARE AN UTTER AND COMPLETE MORON by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow, I wondered who would be ABSOLUTELY STUPID enough to buy into this, and now we know. You truly must be one of the dumbest people online at this hour.

    1. Re:YOU ARE AN UTTER AND COMPLETE MORON by bgrahambo · · Score: 1

      You truly must be one of the dumbest people online at this hour.

      It sounds like you're giving out memberships to the club

  18. Why... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why queue the jokes when we can just cue them?

    1. Re:Why... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You queue the jokes so you have them ready ahead of time, then you cue them when they become relevant. You should always keep a few queues of jokes ready to be cued, it makes you seem wittier than you actually are.

  19. iRobot. Pfth. Aren’t they falling behind? by ruddk · · Score: 1

    Seems like Neato is more clever. I like the capability to mark areas as off limits in a map.

    1. Re:iRobot. Pfth. Aren’t they falling behind? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unless Neato has made massive improvements in their algorithm in the past couple years, Neato may have more features but they're pretty stupid as far as the actual navigation goes. My two Neatos (XV-21 and D80) that I keep at the office constantly get stuck under the couch, (they're not smart enough to realize their lidar sensor is too tall, even though the rest of them isn't) around swivel chairs, (the D-shape means they can wedge themselves between the chair wheels and can't turn away from the chair or back up to get out of it. They could turn towards the chair and back up, but they don't usually try that before giving up) and have, on several occasions, decided their home base was outside in the parking lot somewhere and smacked against the outside wall a few times before demanding that I clear their path. My Roomba 980 has never had any of these problems, and demonstrates its navigation proficiency by taking a clear, direct path back home from anywhere in the office without stopping, as opposed to the Neatos' slow, meandering path.

      iRobot may be slow with the flashy features, but they're much better at implementing them in my experience.

      And also in my experience, the Xiaomi mapping robot does everything the Neato does but better for cheaper. It's probably the best value for money, as long as you trust Xiaomi.

      Also my Neatos tend to chime every 5 minutes demanding that you clean their filter "if necessary" even if they're still in the middle of the cleaning cycle that dirtied it. The message will pop up over anything else on the robot's screen, including the menu you were currently interacting with. I check the filter, but it's barely dusty and the dust bin is mostly empty. Sometimes I'll take a brush and sweep the dust off the filter, at which point the robot gets annoyed that I'm taking so long and starts chiming with the demand that I put the dustbin back in. The Roomba, on the other hand, has a red trash-can-shaped indicator that it turns on when it thinks the dustbin is full or missing, and doesn't nag you about the filter at all. I hope Neato changed their behavior for the Wi-Fi based ones. If my phone gave me alerts to check the robot's filter every 5 minutes after every cleaning job, I think I'd pull the robot's battery out.

  20. Look out, Stephen King by biggaijin · · Score: 2

    This sounds like the basis for a great new Stephen King book...

  21. High value theft target by atrex · · Score: 2

    So, they expect you to just leave this probably $1000+ robot and charging station sitting outside your house so someone can walk up and steal it while you're at work?

    1. Re:High value theft target by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So the car manufacturers expect you to leave a 20000$ piece of equipment outside your hose so someone can walk up and conveniently drive it away while you're at work?

      The Husqvarna lawn mower bot is geo-fenced and won't work outside your own backyard. There'll be similar theft protection measures for other mowing bots, I'd guess.

  22. TRY *20 YEARS* ago. Seriously 1999 (and earlier) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously, even I bought a Toro-branded Friendly Robotics/Robomow model (Toro iMow 30050) in 2002 from Amazon and still have it today. I think it was under $300 at the time (refurb). The company has been selling similar models continuously since then.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robomow

  23. Get off my lawn bot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get off my lawn robot

  24. Re:Is this new? In the US. by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 1

    For what ever reason robotic vacuums are more popular in Europe.

    Husqvarna has had multiple models available for a while.

  25. Queue the jokes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bwahahaha. Stupid slash dot editors.
    It's _CUE_. Cue the jokes.
    Next they'll be telling you "they could care less."

    1. Re: Queue the jokes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Those who donâ(TM)t study grammar...

  26. About your sig... (OT) by mark-t · · Score: 0

    const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)

    While at first glance, this appears absurd, the bit pattern that corresponds to 65536 is actually the same bit pattern as that needed for the value 1.0, when using fixed point precision with 16 bits to the right of the binary point.

    I do not know for sure if that's really what is going on with that line of code... I am unfamiliar with that codebase, and this is just my first impression, but taken by itself, it's actually not really that crazy a thing to see. In C++, one would probably hide that behind a typedef for an int so that it was more obvious that it wasn't just an integer.

    It may have also helped somewhat if that is the purpose behind this, for the number to have been expressed in some other base than decimal, so that it was clear that it is the bit pattern and not the value that is significant, and doing that might help prevent the initial absurd sense one might get from seeing a line of code like that.

    1. Re:About your sig... (OT) by AmiMoJo · · Score: 0

      C# doesn't let you simply reinterpret binary as different types like that.

      The person who wrote it was trying to avoid using floating point by multiplying everything by 65536. Windows CE doesn't require an FPU so it might have helped on some low end ARM systems, but in practice I really doubt it as by far the biggest bottleneck was the rendering on the GPU.

      In any case, the name "one" is... Not great. Also the code didn't actually work properly anyway, so it's a case of premature optimization.

      One day I'll find a better one and change it. Some of the old STM32 library code came close.

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    2. Re:About your sig... (OT) by mark-t · · Score: 1

      The person who wrote it was trying to avoid using floating point by multiplying everything by 65536

      That's what fixed-point is... it happens to be the case multiplication by some 65536 is equivalent to everything being shifted left by 16 bits, and is how the bit pattern similarity between the integer 65536 and a a representation of 1.0 with 16 bits of precision is relevant. Obviously, the optimization is only practical on systems that do not have efficient floating point.

      In the early 1990's, I remember working on C code containing a similar concept, although we hid the details of it behind macros and typedefs so that the code was more clear, eg: fixed_t one = FIXED_POINT(1.0). To the best of my knowledge, this kind of thing is not typically done in the industry anymore, except perhaps in embedded programming where no FPU is available, but I wonder if it's only because I had worked on similar code in the past before that I recognized so quickly what they were likely trying to do.

    3. Re:About your sig... (OT) by AmiMoJo · · Score: 0

      Sure, but the other thing about C# is that bit shifting is quite slow too. It really really isn't built for doing bitwise operations. And also there are fixed point maths libraries for this kind of stuff, although I suppose to be fair they might not have been available at the time they wrote it or available for the .NET Compact framework.

      If I were doing it in C# I'd probably create a class, or if it was C I'd have INT16_TO_FIXED() and FIXED_TO_INT16() macros.

      Still, that library saved our bacon when it turned out that Microsoft lied about Silverlight actually working on Windows Embedded Compact 7.

      I was thinking of doing one of those one liner C progs that prints a logo or something, but never got around to it.

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    4. Re: About your sig... (OT) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Honest question.. wtf is C# doing that makes bitwise operations slow, or and different than vanilla C?

  27. Nothing new, I've had one for 15 years by kalpol · · Score: 1

    I've got one of the Friendly Robotics/Toro iMow robotic mowers. It's actually pretty awesome once set up correctly, and you're not sending into waist-high grass. After all this time it's got a high battery draw problem I need to figure out but it has lasted considerably longer than I thought it would.

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    1. Re: Nothing new, I've had one for 15 years by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If it comes with AI it will get more efficient. Anyway you want something to do your chores for you sometimes so you can go on vacation to the ends of the earth you will want someone to look in on your robot

    2. Re: Nothing new, I've had one for 15 years by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Plus if you add new modules that are self-updating your robot can just float around magically cutting strand after strand of grass

    3. Re:Nothing new, I've had one for 15 years by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same, got an iMow 17 years ago refurbished for (I think) under $300.

  28. A bit lax on any real details by sunking2 · · Score: 2

    It looks small, whats the hp/kw rating? Run time per charge, max height of grass it can handle, and scores of other things. Looking at it it doesn't seem like it'll handle more than about a .5" of cut depth so you would have to set it to run every other day, if not every day depending on the weather. Which would be fine for it head out every day when I'm at work except that now you're talking a ton of hours wear and tear on it. My roomba vacuum runs most days and after a year or so it's definitely showing the mileage. And that's nothing like cutting a lawn.

    1. Re:A bit lax on any real details by dryeo · · Score: 1

      I wonder how it deals with mole hills, and tunnels. Moles have been doing very well around here.

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    2. Re:A bit lax on any real details by cerberusss · · Score: 1

      I expect an arms race between the robots and the moles.

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    3. Re:A bit lax on any real details by dryeo · · Score: 2

      And the moles will win. Our new underlords.

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    4. Re:A bit lax on any real details by cerberusss · · Score: 1

      I, for one, welcome them.

      They will make mountains out of mole hills!

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  29. Here come the lawsuits from morons by TomGreenhaw · · Score: 1

    Reminds me of the following story: True Value was sued because some idiot picked up his running lawn mower to trim his bushes. After chopping off fingers he decided to sue. Now there are insane disclaimers on lawn mower boxes and documentation.

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    1. Re:Here come the lawsuits from morons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not a story, that's a fairytale anecdote told by a probable liar without a link. FTFY

  30. Re:This is Awesome! The Next-Gen Lawnmower by Ogive17 · · Score: 1

    Hope it lasts longer than their roomba vacuums. After 3 years of use, the sensors no longer work so it does not slow down when approaching obstacles. It also get "stuck" on dark carpet.

    My brother researched previous robot mowers, they were designed for shorter grasses like bermuda. Where we live, tall fescue is the top choice as it is heat tolerance, drought tolerant.. but it's recommended to keep between 3.5" and 4" tall. The existing mowers cut to a maximum of 2.5" if I remember correctly, probably a safety issue.

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  31. Can't shake the feeling by AcidTag · · Score: 1

    This seems more like an Ad than a news post.

  32. Infamous? by JBMcB · · Score: 2

    One clickbait-y article means they are "infamous?"

    Wirecutter seems to like them:
    https://thewirecutter.com/revi...

    Not a "best" recommendation, but a runner-up nod.

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    1. Re:Infamous? by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      Kind of a stupid article too. Somebody who won't leave the Roomba unattended, even though they also admit that it's never broken anything, including itself.

  33. lawnba by trb · · Score: 1

    I guess the name lawnba was already taken.

  34. Re:Is this new? In the US. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We have them also. They just don't cover a large enough area yet for those of us that can afford them.

  35. Snowblower robot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They need to make a snowblower robot! It would be worth it not to go outside in this freezing weather and shovel heavy snow.

  36. What I learned from the promotional video by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Remove lawn furniture.
    Remove all sticks
    Complete all edging around the garden bed
    Mow lawn
    Clean up lawn clippings.
    Put back lawn furniture
    Then run iRobot

  37. I would prefer an RC one with tracks... by Faw · · Score: 1

    like this one just a residential version (not costing over 2K). Don't think the iRobot one would climb a slope.

  38. 1, 2, 3, TOMMY! TOMMY! by tepples · · Score: 1

    Spinning blades of a robotic lawn mower... Terror... It reminds me of a scene late in Disney's Honey, I Shrunk the Kids where the neighbor kid Tommy was running Nick's radio control lawn mower, and the kids were in danger of getting sliced up.

  39. Safe from Thieves? by SunReyE · · Score: 1

    So how would we ensure that these robots don't get stolen?

    1. Re:Safe from Thieves? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Easy. Build a wall!

      (The old school ones like iMow/Robomow would make a loud noise when picked up, but not sure if I'd really call it an "alarm" or not. These days, it seems like it would be easy to geofence the thing and send a departure notification and location updates via the Internet, blacklist the serial number, etc, of if you're feeling particularly nasty, include a self-destruct feature).

  40. That was a bit mean... by ishmaelflood · · Score: 1

    That was a bit mean, but pretty funny.

  41. Re:This is Awesome! The Next-Gen Lawnmower by crow · · Score: 1

    That's a fair point. We had an early Roomba vacuum, and it didn't last long.

  42. CUE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    FFS. Cue.

  43. Cats will love this Roomba too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Until their tails get caught.

  44. "Infamous"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ladies and gentlemen, "journalism".

    Uneducated hacks with a thesaurus and low skills in comprehension.

  45. Plow my driveway please... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I actually *like* to sit on a riding mower and mow the lawn with my headset and few beers on a nice warm weekend afternoon, even if it's something that takes 3 hours.

    I'd much rather have something that can clear the snow/ice off of my driveway in winter while I stay indoors.

  46. Re:Is this new? In the US. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This.

    By the time they would get done with the last section pass, the first would be rather grown in compared to it.

  47. Grass Technology by mentil · · Score: 1

    Instead of mowing your lawn every week or so to cut it to a preferred length, why not use a GM grass seed that only grows to your preferred height, and then stays there? It can be modified to require less water, as well. Imagine how much money that'd save golfing institutions. It could even be made Roundup-ready to make it easier to kill weeds. Seems Scotts DID test a Roundup-ready grass for golf courses, but the USDA refused to allow its sale; European/Asian customers scoffed at the idea and they decided to kill it. A discovery suggests that set-height grass is possible, but apparently noone has gone forward with making it.

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  48. How 'bout a... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Snowblower robot! Gee, that'd be swell! (or somethin' like that)
        Colder than snakeshit outside, and my old ass ain't hattin'/glovin'/etc. up to go clear the walks and driveway. I feel guilty(wife helps) not doin' it myself, but my self would rather pay my neighbor's kids for the job.
        I need a robot snowblower. If nuffin else, maybe one I can run RC. Hmm, that'd let me chase the kids w/shovels when they get slow too. THAT oughtabe fun, yes?
        Well, anywho, stay warm knowing that the coming summer's gonnabe HAWT, y'all. Woohoo!

  49. Re:This is Awesome! The Next-Gen Lawnmower by dryeo · · Score: 1

    Yea, where I am, 3-4 inches is recommended but a lot of people struggle to have a golf green length lawn. Another reason for longish grass is weed suppression, weed seeds and seedlings need light so if you shade them out...

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  50. Re:This is Awesome! The Next-Gen Lawnmower by cerberusss · · Score: 1

    The great thing about Roombas though, is that there's a fantastic community around it. Very easy to order third-party replacement stuff, and even 3D printed parts for cheap.

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  51. Not a good idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This robot cuts the lawn EVERY day. It has to keep the glass short, so it doesn't choke on weeds.
    Which means, you will not be able to actually use your lawn for whatever activities. The robot will always be cutting it.