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China and India Lead the Way in Greening (nasa.gov)

hackingbear writes: The world is literally a greener place than it was twenty years ago, and data from NASA satellites has revealed a counterintuitive source for much of this new foliage. A new study shows that China and India -- the world's most populous countries -- are leading the increase in greening on land. The effect comes mostly from ambitious tree-planting programs in China and intensive agriculture in both countries. Ranga Myneni of Boston University and colleagues first detected the greening phenomenon in satellite data from the mid-1990s, but they did not know whether human activity was a chief cause. The research team found that global green leaf area has increased by 5 percent since the early 2000s, an area equivalent to all of the Amazon rainforests. At least 25 percent of that gain came in China. "China and India account for one-third of the greening, but contain only 9 percent of the planet's land area covered in vegetation," said lead author Chi Chen of Boston University. "That is a surprising finding, considering the general notion of land degradation in populous countries from overexploitation." China's outsized contribution to the global greening trend comes in large part from its programs to conserve and expand forests (about 42 percent of the greening contribution). These programs were developed in an effort to reduce the effects of soil erosion, air pollution, and climate change.

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  1. Meh, big deal... by pablo_max · · Score: 5, Funny

    USA leads in climate change denial. Take that, nature!

    1. Re:Meh, big deal... by ron_ivi · · Score: 4, Funny
      "Greening" by creating forests where previously there were none counts as a form of climate change too.

      While green forests are cool, are there concerns for the previous non-forest ecosystems that were there?

    2. Re:Meh, big deal... by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 2, Interesting

      USA leads in climate change denial.

      Maybe instead of building a wall along the border with Mexico, we should be planting trees along it?

      I mean, not normal trees, but Normandy-like hedgerows that were impassable by the US troops in WWII. They needed to mount tusk-like diggers on Sherman tanks to get through.

      It would keep folks from sneaking across the border illegally, and be Green, as well.

      . . . unless the border crashers get their hands on some Sherman tanks.

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  2. The US is way behind .. by satsuke · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's like everywhere else has recognized that the cost of deploying renewables are now cheaper than their equivalent fossil fuels counterparts.

    It makes more economic sense to be green than it does to be dirty...

    The article is about literal greening of areas of course, but the underlying reason is similar.

    1. Re:The US is way behind .. by dryeo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Sure, we reached peak per capita CO2 production with nowhere to go but down while China and especially India are still relatively low per capita.
      The real problem is how much CO2 we produce compared to the Vatican if we're going to compare countries without considering size or population.

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  3. high by zlives · · Score: 3

    high co2 content good for trees...

  4. China is reclaiming desert by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    China is reclaiming desert with grid plantings.

    My understanding is that the USA has at least as many forested acres as ever, but a lot less biomass, and a lot of dead trees. Old growth is taller so it slows wind down more, and it's also more massive so it fixes more carbon. (Trees only grow from a thin layer beneath the bark, and the rate of growth is limited by photosynthesis, with larger trees able to do more of it because they have more leaf area with which to receive insolation.)

    Is there a biomass index?

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    1. Re:China is reclaiming desert by Krishnoid · · Score: 2

      I thought they'd be against the sietch way of life, but since the government's doing it, it's obvious -- they're trying to corral, herd, and finally control Shai-Hulud. I guess when they think about extending lifespans via socialized medicine, they think *big*.

  5. This is why change needn't be doom and gloom by Dasher42 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    We have absolutely got to do something about climate change. Most of what we've got to do would also make the world a lot better in sundry other ways.

    If we helped the landscape keep multiple stories of vegetation, and worked out ways to scale orchards designed the same way, it would make for great resistance to drought and a stable food supply, and over time, correct for this spike in greenhouse gasses.

    Entire horticultural and early agriculture civilizations have been founded not on controlling the landscape's entire harvest, but on enriching it and reaping the surplus. In this way of life, economy and environment are not at all at odds. In fact, they are interdependent. You can look at terra preta and its history in the Amazon basin for an example of a long-term, large-scale win-win scenario. http://news.cornell.edu/storie...

    If you want to see what is happening in China, watch this video, "The Lessons of the Loess Plateau": https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    Even if you don't exactly agree with *how* they got it done, the results for the landscape and the prosperity of the people there speak for themselves. Start asking how your local economic and political systems can start to do right by the soil too.

  6. Hari Seldon, where are you? by Jogar+the+Barbarian · · Score: 4, Funny

    If we're serious about building Trantor, this is exactly the WRONG WAY to go.

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  7. that is good to see by WindBourne · · Score: 3, Insightful

    We have Brazil clear cutting their forest so as to supply Europe with Beef, and CHina with exotic woods.
    Then we have the west which has already done a number on our forest and are not replanting fast enough.
    So, it is good to actually see both China and India showing the rest of the world what needs to happen.
    It will not help that much with the CO2, but it will help absorb pollution, etc.

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  8. Re:China's dependent on the US for their food supp by mpercy · · Score: 2

    I'll be kind and assume this is a genuine question and not sarcasm.

    It is not a possessive apostrophe-s, it is a contraction of "China is".

    In English you can use contractions to shorten a word by removing one letter or more and substituting an apostrophe in the same spot. For example, chop wi out of "I will", throw in an apostrophe, and you have I’ll. The resulting word is shorter and faster to say, with only one syllable (sound) instead of two. Similarly, she would becomes she’d and he is becomes he's.

  9. Re:China's dependent on the US for their food supp by WindBourne · · Score: 2

    uh, you really should be paying attention to our food. Have you wondered why our Apple Juice, honey, V8 juice now contains high levels of Lead, Mercury, Pesticides (even in ones that are marked organic ), fungicides, herbicides, etc, amongst other pollutants? Yeah. Got news for you. THis is the FASTEST way to figure out where our food is coming from.
    Have you looked at our fish? It is not only mislabeled, but also loaded with all sorts of items that are not found in Alaska. That Salmon and 'Alaskan Cod' is showing up with a lot more mercury, and other pollutants than what the American ships pull in.
    How about Dog/Cat food? Have you wondered why dogs are dying and it is being blamed on the food? It is because far too many ingredients come from CHina. We buy Merick since they promise to NEVER allow ingredients from China into their food.
    DO NOT get me started on the FUCKING CHICKEN that KFC and Chick-fil-a sell. Yeah. These dirt bags are buying it processed in China while lying about it. So does Safeway. And that is just the ones that some of my microbio old classmates told me about.

    Our food chain used to the the gem of the world back in the 40-70s. Come reagan, it started downwards because he gutted the inspectors, and with W and O, it went down even further . Our food chain has become a joke. It is above CHina's, but increasingly, not by much.
    At least over there, they still shoot ppl for putting in poisons into their foods. In America, we call it entrepreneurial.
    Fuck, Blue Buffalo still is adding ingredients from China, while lying through their fucking teeth.

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  10. This guy's doing his part. And so is India. by smooth+wombat · · Score: 3, Informative

    The man single-handedly planted a 550 hectare forest over a period of 30 years which, oddly enough, brought back animals and even a stream to the barren land.

    He has gone on to plant another 150 hectares of land nearby.

    In 2016, India planted 50 million trees (saplings of various types) as part of its deal with the Paris Climate Accord.

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