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Netflix Cancels The Punisher and Jessica Jones, Ending its Marvel Shows (cnet.com)
An anonymous reader shares a report: Netflix is officially no longer producing Marvel's live-action shows. The streaming service has canceled both The Punisher and Jessica Jones, according to Deadline, with the latter's third season set to debut as the last batch of Marvel live-action episodes on Netflix. "We are grateful to Marvel for five years of our fruitful partnership and thank the passionate fans who have followed these series from the beginning," a Netflix representative told Deadline. Netflix didn't immediately respond to a request for comment.
I can see dropping Jessica Jones and Punisher, I'm having trouble even finishing season two of Punisher and JJ was getting a bit repetitive.
What I was more sad to see go, was Luke Cage - that still had some interesting story left to tell. Iron fist I never even watched so I guess I can't be too sad that is gone as well.
I have to say though, that I'm enjoying Netflix's Umbrella Academy more than any new Marvel content, whose world is at this point generally over-worked.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
I mean:
+ Disney owns Marvel Studios.
+ Disney will become a competitor of Netflix launching their own streaming service (Disney+).
+ Disney is retiring a significant chunck of their catalogue from Netflix in preparation for said streaming service.
+ Diseny (due to their Fox Studios Acquisition) owns the majority (60%) of Hulu, another Netflix competitor.
I guess this may have something to do with said cancelations...
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when, just like the zombie craze, all of this super-hero stuff has played out.
We need more space opera and less supernatural ghosty stuff...
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I find all the netflix superhero shoes start really strong and then fizzle out. Watching Titans and it starts very raw and action packed, but four epis in it's a soap opera.
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Would it really matter if they came up with some original IP though? It's still almost certainly going to be the same super hero narratives we've seen time and time again. I think that the real issue is that the market has had too much super hero stuff dumped on it so it doesn't feel nearly as special as it originally did. I wonder if westerns will ever make a comeback.
Their entire Defenders Franchise was a flaming pile of shit. I look forward to a proper reboot on Disney's Streaming service in 2021. Netflix and their thousands of shit-tier "original content" titles can go get good and truly fucked. After what they did to Black Mirror, and giving us that choose your own adventure piece of shit instead of a proper season, they are dead to me
You don't seem to be aware that Disney is launching their own streaming platform later this year and they own the Marvel franchise.
I did know that, but the shows were canceled a bit ahead of when that would have naturally occurred.
Even though these shows are being reported as "canceled", they aren't being terminated. They'll just be moved to new studios and production is going to continue.
That I did not know, where did you read that?
Personally like I said, I felt like most of them were kind of played out and I don't see Disney getting a lot of value out of continuing these. But more power to them if they can wring more value out of the Marvel stone.
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The /. armchair art critics must be falling over themselves in a rush to comment on how happy they that these shows were cancelled because one of the following: a) Netflix originals suck b) they're tired of Marvel/superhero stories c) too mainstream and action oriented; not about an autistic kid sitting in a Eastern European shack doing math on a menstrual-blood soaked bathroom floor.
Honestly, I do think the Marvel shows have been rather crap on Netflix, so not bothered that they're being cancelled personally. However, I wouldn't say I'm "Happy" about it- because it doesn't really impact me. I'm already not watching them after having bailed after a few episodes of each, it's not going to make me watch them less now they're gone.
The only goodside of it will be if the money gets redirected for something I enjoy more.
Not liking the marvel shows does not equate to not liking action btw... it just means liking better written (subjective I know) shows.
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Stop paying to license terrible IP and write something. CGI and bad-dialogue an original plot, rehashing Marvel shit over and over is OVER!
You're obviously a troll, but there's something to be learned here. There was great value with the Netfix Marvel shows for people who aren't comic book devotees.
For us, those shows have been fresh, (mostly) well-done, and most importantly entertaining. They're not the over-the-top comic book material like the movies. They're just accessible, interesting shows about extraordinary people.
I for one would have gladly watched another season or two of "that show with the blind lawyer struggling to reconcile his sense of duty and his sense of morality", or even another season of "that rich guy who was raised by monks and had to learn how to interact with Western adult culture while being a martial arts deity's avatar".
But no. The Mouse needs to be fed.
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It may be more accurate to say Netflix drops content from streaming competitor Disney. Marvel is a subsidiary of Disney.
I'm actually very "meh" about this. On the one hand, I enjoyed the first season of (most) of the Netflix Marvel shows (guess the exception), but on the other hand, while they kept on making it seem like something cool could be just around the corner, they never quite managed to deliver. The Iron Fist was the worst at this. Its final season ended with a setup that seemed like it could potentially be cool, but given that it was the Iron Fist, I kind of don't care that we'll never get to see if they would have managed to capitalize on it.
Beyond that, all the shows were getting kind of stale. Luke Cage's second season seemed to be a large bit of padding to set up for a third season that may have been interesting, one we didn't get to see. Jessica Jones's second season set up for maybe having an interesting new character while otherwise being pretty dull - dull enough that I managed to forget a large bit of the plot involving a fairly major character! Jessica Jones is getting a third season (the one they just finished before being canceled), so maybe the third season will manage to capitalize on the hooks the second one set up, but - well - I'm not counting on it.
Ultimately I think they all fell to something I remember reading about, how super hero origin stories are easier to write than stories where they've already been established. Origin stories are inherently the Hero's Journey, something that's very well defined and understood. The first seasons were all origin stories, and then once they were defined characters - the show writers didn't know how to continue. This meant that pretty much every "next season" of these shows ended up effectively being the origin stories of other characters beyond the "main characters." Which almost worked.
So I'm left with a mixed feeling that while the shows may have been able to move the characters in interesting directions and show us neat new things, it was probably time to cancel them. Leaving me feeling basically unable to care either way. Had they continued, that might have been interesting. Or not. So it doesn't really matter that they won't.
And, yes, I know this is a lot of text to say "I don't care" but it's this weird thing where I wish I could be invested in the characters because the shows seemed promising at first, but ultimately, I'm just ... not.
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After what they did to Black Mirror
I personally liked the Black Mirror interactive episode better than every single other Black Mirror episode combined.
Their entire Defenders Franchise was a flaming pile of shit. I look forward to a proper reboot on Disney's Streaming service in 2021.
I don't agree with that, and I don't think a lot of other people do as well. In particular, the first seasons of Jessica Jones, and Daredevil were great. I also liked Luke Cage fairly well.
Or maybe you specifically meant just the Defenders show where they all came together, there I would have to agree I didn't really care for it at all and didn't want to see more of it. I find the Black Hand to be a pretty uninteresting villainous force.
I'm not sure what gives you hope that a Disney reboot of any of those characters will yield improvement though. I think they should let them sit for at least 18 months before another reboot, like Spider Man.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Love them or hate them this isn't about ratings. This is about Disney rolling out their own streaming service.
CGI
If you're gonna troll, at least know the material you're working with, since you're clearly outing yourself with a comment about CGI (and your other complaints are similarly off-base). Unlike the Marvel films, the Netflix/Marvel shows are remarkably light-handed in their use of CGI. About the most notable instance of it between Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, The Defenders, and Punisher is that Iron Fist's fist glows occasionally.
That's really about it. No super metal suits. No big green monsters. No gods of thunder. No wizards. No flying aircraft carriers. No aliens. Just five people, some with modest powers, none who want to be called "hero", all with serious personal issues that get explored, each entirely different in tone and style from the other, but every one of them engaged in street-level vigilantism set in a universe where the civilization-ending events of the movies are off-handedly mentioned about once a season so that you know those events are part of the fabric of the world in which these people live and operate.
They should invent Netflix-Man and not pay a licensing fee. Genius!
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There have been a few decent ones recently. The Ballad of Buster Scruggs by the Cohen bros. was pretty good, and there have been some recent Quentin Tarantino western-esque movies lately that were arguably decent.
And then there were some westerns in disguise, like Star Trek TOS and that whole Star Wars Ep. IV thing. They never really went away, they just morphed into one branch of Sci-Fi.
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Westerns popular during the 1950's while had some fad revivals. I feel more or less not relatable to most people. Back in the 1950's it covered a simpler time 100 years ago. 100 years from 2019 is 1919 (World War I has ended, Automobiles, Radio, Electric Lights) in Short we have a new world that is relatable to. I can probably see Gangster movies being popular instead of Westerns. This can open the door to some interesting stories. Because a lot of the 1920's there was a lot of interesting Gray areas America wants to celibate after WWI, Prohibition is in effect, creating an interesting black market with a variety of people engaged in it. Politically things are building up to the Great Depression and WWII.
To those in the 1950's the 1920's were much of this was too soon for them, however Westerns in a world where there was the ideal freedom, even though it seemed that something was always trying to kill them. The lone Sharif in a lawless town, a simpler time with simpler solutions.
Today I think such simple solutions to problems will not last long, we need a more complex story.
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I can hardly believe I watched it until the end.
1) Get rid of all the shows people would actually watch and replace them with cheaply made true-crime documentaries and bad stand up comedy specials.
2) Assume people are too lazy to cancel their monthly subscriptions.
3)...
Seriously, Netflix has gotten rid of their once-impressive back catalog of classic movies, bought a bunch of cookie-cutter European copies of American cop-shows, and has been sucking increasing ass.
But I'm part of the problem I guess. I'm too lazy to cancel my monthly subscription and even though I keep telling myself it's time to cut them loose, I keep thinking they've got to improve sometime but they never do.
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There will be a big hole in Netflix without their hit-or-miss superhero lineup. Who the hell wants to stream only Disney content though, they must be mad to think people want yet another outlay. Netflix and one other (for GoT) hits the sweet spot!