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Inside Elizabeth Holmes's Chilling Final Months at Theranos (vanityfair.com)

In the final months of Theranos, before the blood testing start-up was debunked and its founders charged with fraud, then-CEO Elizabeth Holmes brought a puppy, who she insisted was a wolf to others, with a penchant for peeing into the mix, according to Vanity Fair, which has detailed the chaos that ensued in the waning days of the startup, once valued at $9 billion. The 35-year-old Stanford University dropout has also met with filmmakers who she hopes would make a documentary about her "real story," the outlet reported. She also "desperately wants to write a book." An excerpt from the story: Holmes brushed it off when the scientists protested that the dog hair could contaminate samples. But there was another problem with Balto (name of the dog), too. He wasn't potty-trained. Accustomed to the undomesticated life, Balto frequently urinated and defecated at will throughout Theranos headquarters. While Holmes held board meetings, Balto could be found in the corner of the room relieving himself while a frenzied assistant was left to clean up the mess. [...]

By late 2017, however, Holmes had begun to slightly rein in the spending. She agreed to give up her private-jet travel (not a good look) and instead downgraded to first class on commercial airlines. But given that she was flying all over the world trying to obtain more funding for Theranos, she was spending tens of thousands of dollars a month on travel. Theranos was also still paying for her mansion in Los Altos, and her team of personal assistants and drivers, who would become regular dog walkers for Balto. But there were few places she had wasted so much money as the design and monthly cost of the company's main headquarters, which employees simply referred to as "1701," for its street address along Page Mill Road in Palo Alto. 1701, according to two former executives, cost $1 million a month to rent. Holmes had also spent $100,000 on a single conference table. Elsewhere in the building, Holmes had asked for another circular conference room that the former employees said "looked like the war room from Dr. Strangelove," replete with curved glass windows, and screens that would come out of the ceiling so everyone in the room could see a presentation without having to turn their heads.

250 comments

  1. Typical CEO stuff right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I mean, this is my boss right now!

  2. I don't see a problem here... by kelarius · · Score: 2

    next you're going to tell me that sharks with frickin laser beams on their fricken heads is a bad investment.

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  3. 1701 Page Mill Road... Star Trek Referrence... by Crash+Dummy+Redux · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What a coincidence! Wil Wheaton's house number in The Big Bang Theory was 1701.

    1. Re:1701 Page Mill Road... Star Trek Referrence... by denzacar · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Card. Leave. By door. Out.

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    2. Re:1701 Page Mill Road... Star Trek Referrence... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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    3. Re:1701 Page Mill Road... Star Trek Referrence... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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    4. Re:1701 Page Mill Road... Star Trek Referrence... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Will you ever stop shitposting your random, unwanted comments?

      You keep posting random comments about creimer a dozen times a day. When you're not doing that, you're accusing users of being creimer. Buy a clue, get a life.

    5. Re:1701 Page Mill Road... Star Trek Referrence... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cdreimer left /. after 20+ years and posted 100+ videos in 2018. His trolls are still butthurt about this.

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    6. Re:1701 Page Mill Road... Star Trek Referrence... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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    7. Re:1701 Page Mill Road... Star Trek Referrence... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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    8. Re: 1701 Page Mill Road... Star Trek Referrence... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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    9. Re:1701 Page Mill Road... Star Trek Referrence... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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    10. Re:1701 Page Mill Road... Star Trek Referrence... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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    11. Re:1701 Page Mill Road... Star Trek Referrence... by shanen · · Score: 1

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    12. Re:1701 Page Mill Road... Star Trek Referrence... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you fucking kidding or even stupider than creimer?

      jesus fuck

    13. Re:1701 Page Mill Road... Star Trek Referrence... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also the hull number of Captain Kirk's starship. NCC-1701 ring a bell?

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    14. Re:1701 Page Mill Road... Star Trek Referrence... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      NCC-1919 has half a saucer section. O_o

      The Pluto Class Starship is a Long-Range Cruiser which is like a counter-part of the Constitution Class. With the same type of weapons and shields the Pluto Class came in service 2 years after the Launch of the USS Enterprise NCC-1701. She was just a prototype before her service as a Starfleet Vessel constructed in Station Alpha 5. This starship has a hull separation if the engineering section is heavy damaged or a warp core breach is in progress. For this the neck supporting the Saucer section must be separated by blowing the bolts together from the main bridge. If failed the bolts will have to be blown manually in the neck section of the ship, if successful the ship will have to go on impulse power to the nearest starbase. These explosive bolts are located on both support necks near the Engineering deck and Main deflector.

    15. Re:1701 Page Mill Road... Star Trek Referrence... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And creimy's neck as a very large, full saucer section.

  4. What a joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can you imagine a fund in your 401K funding this frivolity, this literal SHIT SHOW - and yes I wrote shit because she would bring in her non-toilet trained dog and allow it to shit in the board room.
    Private jets. Insane spending on rent, office....

    I don't care who you are and how rich you could make my investors be, there have to be limits. This is beyond what is acceptable.
    Insanity.

    1. Re:What a joke by magarity · · Score: 4, Informative

      Can you imagine a fund in your 401K funding this frivolity, this literal SHIT SHOW - and yes I wrote shit because she would bring in her non-toilet trained dog and allow it to shit in the board room.Private jets. Insane spending on rent, office....I don't care who you are and how rich you could make my investors be, there have to be limits. This is beyond what is acceptable.Insanity.

      If you're quite finished with your rant, Theranos was never publicly traded so no 401K fund would have bought it.

    2. Re: What a joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your 401k invests indirectly in tens of thousands of private companies.

      Or did you think Walgreens magicked their Theranos investment cash from the fucking ether, you dumb fuck?

    3. Re: What a joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did none of their funding come from publicly traded companies? If there is one thing I know about economics, it's that nothing happens in a vacuum.

    4. Re:What a joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yes, but plenty of other money losing companies are publicly traded and held by people's 401k's. what's the difference? i dont know, but many people better hope that the market attitude towards these turds don't change ever.

  5. Political correctness caused the damage by onyxruby · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Due diligence and best practices were sacrificed at the alter of political correctness. People were so desperate to have a female CEO and founder of a large company that they disregarded established safeguards. People need to learn that best practices and due diligence are there for good reasons.

    I'm not objecting to having woman starting and running a business (my wife has done this - I think it's a good thing). I'm objecting to people disregarding established standards in the name of political correctness. Let this be a lesson that narrative should never trump best practices.

    1. Re:Political correctness caused the damage by Comrade+Ogilvy · · Score: 1

      When I think Political Correctness, who doesn't think Henry Kissinger as part of the feel good package? After all, no company has ever failed big based on fraud when men were in charge.

      Holmes is the daughter of an Enron executive. Need I say more?

    2. Re:Political correctness caused the damage by Megol · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Bullshit.
      Personal connections with people that should have known better and not believing a CEO for a so highly valued company could be lying were the main problems. If someone lost their money for backing a company with a female CEO I'd simply laugh at them - but that wasn't the case for the majority of backers. They backed an incredible technological advancement that could change medical diagnosis all over the world being faster, cheaper, safer. But it was all a gigantic lie.

    3. Re:Political correctness caused the damage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      They backed an incredible technological advancement that could change medical diagnosis all over the world being faster, cheaper, safer

      ...without a shred of evidence to back up the claim. THAT was the real problem. Serves them right for losing their money.

    4. Re:Political correctness caused the damage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you meant to say something about not hiring any *person* who is unprepared for a technical positions. Lack of a "Y" chromosome does not make a person inherently less able to perform a function, but lack of training/focus/intelligence might.

    5. Re:Political correctness caused the damage by twistedcubic · · Score: 1, Insightful

        People were so desperate to have a female CEO...

      Please. Those old fools made a bad investment because of her looks. This should be obvious to most men.

    6. Re:Political correctness caused the damage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just because it makes perfect sense within your worldview, it doesn't make it true. Yours is but one of thousands of possible explanations.

    7. Re:Political correctness caused the damage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ahhh, you said Trump! [then the sound of several NPC heads exploding]

    8. Re:Political correctness caused the damage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Those old fools made a bad investment because of her looks" - Moron, the product/company if it worked would have been worth B-TRILLIONS of dollars. IF. It did not. They fudged the data to make it look good. That's gender neutral fraud.

      And the previous CEO was also responsible, a male, who got a ton of funding also. What did he do, free handjobs, in your made-up-everything-was-sex-related-because-I'm-a-virgin-still paradigm?

      Read. Don't go full INCEL GOP. Try to get laid before Trump dies in prison, it may be a race against time, but let's try.

    9. Re:Political correctness caused the damage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      No no, "there was evidence", the problem was it was invented for that purpose, to fool investors and try to skate until the product could live up to the claims. It never made it. If it had worked the fraud might have been sweep-able.

    10. Re:Political correctness caused the damage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's more than political correctness. The Theranos board were spooks and the building had security guards. This was something more than a biotech company.

    11. Re:Political correctness caused the damage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Republican INCEL threatened yet confused by female charms finds solidarity among crybaby inbred retards who whine about women all day online, as if it's their job. Fox News at 11.

    12. Re:Political correctness caused the damage by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

      Ahhh, you said Trump! [then the sound of several NPC heads exploding]

      Why do Non-Player Characters care about Trump?

    13. Re: Political correctness caused the damage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you are wrong. VCs KNEW she was full of poop but didn't care because it didn't matter. After a few years in the biz, you realize the greater fool theory is now more relavant than ever because money is as dumb as it gets today.

    14. Re:Political correctness caused the damage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why would the fact that the US President is a treasonous fraud and coward be relevant to Americans? I dunno. Maybe you live in Russia where it's a local benefit, not a problem?

    15. Re:Political correctness caused the damage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Interesting theory. What do you have to substantiate your claims that it was political correctness run amok that caused the problem? Are you sure you're not a redpill fanboy fighting the good fight against the SJWs and antifa or something retarded like that?

    16. Re:Political correctness caused the damage by prisoner-of-enigma · · Score: 1

      After all, no company has ever failed big based on fraud when men were in charge.

      So your motto is "go with the women, they're just as bad as the men"? That's a helluva thing to use as a yardstick. If you're going to excuse bad behavior by women by saying they're no worse than the men, why bother making the distinction between genders at all anymore?

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      In the end they will lay their freedom at our feet and say to us, Make us your slaves, but feed us. - Fyodor Dostoyevsky
    17. Re: Political correctness caused the damage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you even read the story? He's absolutely correct. They ignored all the safeguards in place because "she was a woman, this time it'll be better"

    18. Re: Political correctness caused the damage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      She let a dog walk around the office pissing and shitting. And everyone was too scared to say anything about it, because if they did, they would be fired for being sexist. That's the problem. She made her assistants walk and take care of the dog. And if that wasn't bad enough, the bitch was spending several million a month on private jets. And if that wasn't enough, the bitch was decking out her board room to look like a movie set, well because why not it's not her money she's blowing.

      And if a lowly worker spoke up about said issues, sexist, you are fired.

    19. Re:Political correctness caused the damage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "why bother making the distinction between genders at all anymore?" - Good question, why do you need to? CEO's commit fraud, why is that gender specific because Theranos did it with both male and female CEO's?

      Why do whiny GOP Incels have to pretend the fraud wasn't the problem, her gender was? Is it because their gender is fraud?

    20. Re:Political correctness caused the damage by slack_justyb · · Score: 1

      Due diligence and best practices were sacrificed at the alter of political correctness. People were so desperate to have a female CEO and founder of a large company that they disregarded established safeguards.

      What the absolute fuck my friend?! Elizabeth Holmes' is a con-artist. They come in both male and female variety. Con-artist get away with a lot of shit because most sane people think other people, especially people in power, are equally sane. This episode isn't a marker of how PC has wronged us all, I mean good grief there's way, way, way better examples of that, but nah my friend this is just shitty people with power. Let's at the very least classify it correctly. Hell, if you want to toss a buzzy word in on it, you can say this is exactly how entitled shit heads run companies. She wasn't CEO because everyone wanted a woman, she was CEO because she had a lawyer team to unleash on anyone who'd challenge her entitled ass.

    21. Re:Political correctness caused the damage by slack_justyb · · Score: 1

      Why do Non-Player Characters care about Trump?

      It's their new buzzword to replace libtard. So when you see them saying NPC you can just replace it 1:1 with libtard to catch what they're trying to say. Clearly, it's the new "cool word" to use to own some group in the ever wonderful world of A vs B politics. [insert audible eye roll]

    22. Re:Political correctness caused the damage by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 5, Informative

      Bullshit. Personal connections with people that should have known better and not believing a CEO for a so highly valued company could be lying were the main problems. If someone lost their money for backing a company with a female CEO I'd simply laugh at them - but that wasn't the case for the majority of backers. They backed an incredible technological advancement that could change medical diagnosis all over the world being faster, cheaper, safer. But it was all a gigantic lie.

      Oh come now.

      It was a huge factor - "she's young! She's a woman CEO in tech!" It was all over the place.

    23. Re:Political correctness caused the damage by Kyr+Arvin · · Score: 1

      So your motto is "go with the women, they're just as bad as the men"?

      I believe in equality, women are just as capable as scamming investors out of capital as men have been.

    24. Re: Political correctness caused the damage by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      And you don't think male CEOs have pulled crap like that?

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      "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
    25. Re:Political correctness caused the damage by onyxruby · · Score: 1

      The issue was political correctness. Frankly it don't care if they are female, black or identify as an Apache attach helicopter. I very pointedly did not object to the fact that she is female. My issue is that people allowed the PC narrative to trump established best practices.

      Theranos is a story I've been following for years. As you can see the concerns with their business practices go back years. Rational review never would have allowed Theranos to survive as it did.

      https://www.darkintelligencegr...
      http://fortune.com/2015/10/27/...
      https://www.washingtonpost.com...
      http://fortune.com/2015/10/27/...
      https://finance.yahoo.com/news...

    26. Re:Political correctness caused the damage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      How about this - the fraud and the investments themselves were gender neutral, but the underlying/contributing hype and the specific CEO's charm were gender centric.

      Everybody happy?

    27. Re:Political correctness caused the damage by onyxruby · · Score: 2

      People were starting to raise concerns in 2014 and by 2015 concerns were becoming much more vocal. There was no rational reason to ignore these concerns especially when you are talking about billions in dollars of valuation.

      While they had lawyers on call, I can't believe that was enough to dissuade sincere concerns when billions of dollars were at stake. Therefore an irrational reason must have driven this, and the only thing I've seen that is powerful enough to do that is political correctness. The fact that she was female is not the issue, the fact that political correctness trumped sanity when billions of dollars at stake is.

    28. Re:Political correctness caused the damage by Gavagai80 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Being a pretty young woman has always been a great marketing tactic. If people start invested in companies run by hideous 70 year old women, then it'll either be progress or political correctness.

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    29. Re:Political correctness caused the damage by bigdavex · · Score: 2

      I think greed and optimism make a plausible explanation as well.

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    30. Re: Political correctness caused the damage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes.

      That said it's based on the idea that SJWs (if you will) just spout off 'preprogrammed lines' regardless of whether they make sense or not. If you paid attention to some of the conversations that really have taken place, you would see why it has caught on.

      For example, the recent Star Wars movies. If you dare to say that Rey's story arc just doesn't seem interesting, automatic response... 'You must be sexist!'. Even if you were looking forward to a female Jedi, you still get slapped with the label. Simple really. And yes, this would happen all the time.

      The label 'NPC' actually makes more sense than shrieking 'Russian Trolls' every five minutes. That said they're both very degrading and don't actually further the conversation at all. So I don't particularly like any of these labels.

    31. Re: Political correctness caused the damage by Kyr+Arvin · · Score: 2

      She let a dog walk around the office pissing and shitting. And everyone was too scared to say anything about it, because if they did, they would be fired for being sexist. That's the problem. She made her assistants walk and take care of the dog. And if that wasn't bad enough, the bitch was spending several million a month on private jets. And if that wasn't enough, the bitch was decking out her board room to look like a movie set, well because why not it's not her money she's blowing.

      And if a lowly worker spoke up about said issues, sexist, you are fired.

      I'm sorry you love playing the sexist card, but I've worked at companies where this nonsense happens (not necessarily with a dog, though) where the rank and file DOES NOT SPEAK UP, regardless of the gender of the CEO, because they are afraid of being fired, because you don't call out the CEO, because you have people way above your pay grade to do that.

    32. Re: Political correctness caused the damage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What do you have to substantiate your claims that male CEO's have pulled crap like this and not been called out on it?

      Come on, put in some effort. There's plenty of crazy-pants CEOs out there. Some of them have to like dogs. Go find an example of a male CEO pulling this level of bullshit, and everyone just accepting it while the company goes down in flames.

    33. Re:Political correctness caused the damage by yodleboy · · Score: 1

      Not just that, she tried to look like a female Steve Jobs in public and to cultivate the notion that she WAS a female Steve Jobs...

    34. Re:Political correctness caused the damage by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      So your motto is "go with the women, they're just as bad as the men"?

      I believe in equality, women are just as capable as scamming investors out of capital as men have been.

      True. Reading the article, what she did was manage to convince people that the basis of success was not ability, but eccentricity. She also had an ability to schmooze people. That is not a genitals specific thing.

      It is true, that she is quite physically attractive. This cannot be totally disregarded. https://www.psychologytoday.co...

      But probably a detail that is a telling thing is that her father was an executive at Enron. So she is no stranger to corruption in business.

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      The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
    35. Re:Political correctness caused the damage by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      People were so desperate to have a female CEO...

      Please. Those old fools made a bad investment because of her looks. This should be obvious to most men.

      She did have more than looks. She had a con man's ability to bullshit people and make up stuff. She is at least a sociopath, or just as likely a non-violent psychopath.

      But make no mistake, men can become remarkably stupid around an attractive woman, so it would be very unlikely that she didn't use her sex as another tool in the toolbox.

      And yes, there is political pressure to increase the number of women CEOs to a bit over half - at least. It would be naive to think otherwise.

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      The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
    36. Re:Political correctness caused the damage by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      I think greed and optimism make a plausible explanation as well.

      Many factors are involved. Where we run into trouble is the large number of people who become angry and go into denial when the slightest suggestion is made that there is no sexual aspect involved.

      She's an attractive woman with conman abilities. It would be pretty naive to think that she wouldn't use every tool at her disposal.

      The major operating factor is indeed greed and avarice, and misplaced optimism. But her ability to make men stupid and the political incorrectness that would dare say that a woman was anything but much better at being a CEO than any man - Google women make better CEOs than men and enjoy the evening's reading. Apparently everyone but "A Voice for Men" believes that women are simply and inarguably better, even just being a mom makes you better qualified than any male.

      So here we have Thanos. Or would it be better named Thanatos?

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      The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
    37. Re: Political correctness caused the damage by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      And you don't think male CEOs have pulled crap like that?

      They surely have pulled crap like that.

      The fun is when people go into denial that it is even possible for a woman to pull crap like that. In fact, a large number of people believe and claim that Elizabeth holmes is the victim in all of this. https://www.businessinsider.co... I wonder what he thinks today? Anyhow, we have been force fed the concept that women are not only capable of being CEOs - of course they are - but that they are remarkably better than men. Even just being a mother makes you a better CEO http://fortune.com/2015/05/07/...

      So while in an equality based system - yes women can be just as qualified to run a company as men - we aren't in an equality based system, we are in one that states that men are inferior to woman in the matter of leading companies .

      And that is simply bullshit. But we can look forward to more women grifters taking advantage of the political climate.

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      The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
    38. Re: Political correctness caused the damage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not true. They were mostly white people, not spooks.

    39. Re:Political correctness caused the damage by iMadeGhostzilla · · Score: 1

      It might also be the investors thought the public would be desperate for a female CEO of such a company. If so they were trying to cash in on the general trend of the political correctness. Luckily that trend seems to have been trumped by the trend to return to common sense, at least in parts of the society.

    40. Re:Political correctness caused the damage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "why bother making the distinction between genders at all anymore?" - Good question, why do you need to? CEO's commit fraud, why is that gender specific because Theranos did it with both male and female CEO's?

      Why do whiny GOP Incels have to pretend the fraud wasn't the problem, her gender was? Is it because their gender is fraud?

      It's simple. Anybody that has ever been in a relationship with a female knows that bitches be crazy. From the sound of it, this bitch was an outlier even then.

    41. Re: Political correctness caused the damage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The label 'NPC' actually makes more sense than shrieking 'Russian Trolls' every five minutes. That said they're both very degrading and don't actually further the conversation at all. So I don't particularly like any of these labels.

      Here on Slashdot, we obviously have an interesting phenomenon with one or more shitposters who take this behavior to the extreme. The usual repetitious commenter tries to link Trump to an unrelated subject and then makes some suggestive connection to prison/gallows or the like. Either we have people with no life at all who exist solely to sow discord, we have 4Chan types who are posting for the lulz or we have some seriously crazy ranting Antifa types who in decades past would have been institutionalized in a nice padded room. My money is on the latter. It's hard to pick who is the biggest asshole: APK, creimer troll, or the Anti-Trumper.

    42. Re: Political correctness caused the damage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your script needs to be updated soon to "DEPRESSEDSUICIDE=1;"

    43. Re: Political correctness caused the damage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They're woke Google / Amazon / ms employees. SV is loaded with beta fags endlessly spouting this shit because they think it will get them pussy.

      Little secret: Nobody wants to fuck thoughtful skinny-jeaned leftists. My feminist girlfriend gets wet as fuck when I yell at her and slap her face during sex.

    44. Re: Political correctness caused the damage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Name one female ceo who has generated 1/100th of the success of Apple, or any other white male domination?

    45. Re:Political correctness caused the damage by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 1

      That was an interesting thing from one of her interviews, she mentioned that some publication had written an article critical of their tech, based on interviews with industry experts, and had in response offered to go to their offices to demonstrate that it worked. So she was going to send a carefully orchestrated dog-and-pony show to overwhelm some journalists with gee-whiz, using Theranos gear run by Theranos techs and results interpreted by Theranos, in other words where Theranos could produce any result they wanted. Needless to say, the publication turned down the generous offer.

    46. Re:Political correctness caused the damage by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 1

      INCEL. You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

      Mind you I have no idea what it means either, but I'm guessing it's "the person who repeatedly uses this term in posts is posting while sitting in his mother's basement with his underpants on his head".

    47. Re: Political correctness caused the damage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is sexist to expect a female to be held to the same standard as a male.

    48. Re:Political correctness caused the damage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      christ, back off the misogyny bullshit.

      she is a crafty individual and took a lot of people for a big ride. and also, apparantly insane.

      (love the "I'm not anti-women I let my wife have her own business." wake the fuck up and just stop.)

    49. Re:Political correctness caused the damage by Comrade+Ogilvy · · Score: 1

      But probably a detail that is a telling thing is that her father was an executive at Enron. So she is no stranger to corruption in business.

      My guess is that she is a disciple of the "fake it until to make it" school of success, in an extreme form. I think it is telling that she thought indefatigable chirpiness is a necessary ingredient to visionary success, especially when faced with bad news.

      A number of Enron executives seem to believe that their shenanigans were merely technically illegal, and that if only their gambits had succeeded in keeping the stock price rising, all would have been forgiven.

      I think that Holmes here thought a little fudging of the truth was okay, because a few hundred million thrown at the problem would make the lies true enough eventually, and all would have been forgiven. Of course, a little fudging of the truth set her up to need to fudge more and more extravagantly to maintain the aura of success. We know where that usually ends up.

  6. This is so depressing. by DidgetMaster · · Score: 1

    Foolish startups that have people throwing millions (or billions) of dollars at them while other good startups can't get the funding they need. I have a startup that has built a new kind of data management system. It is twice as fast as the big database management systems and does things thousands of times faster than file systems. It is the kind of thing that can radically change how data is managed on a global scale; yet I can't seem to attract even a few $100K from investors even though I have a working system with a few customers already. It's all 'who you know' instead of 'what you know'.

    1. Re:This is so depressing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please send the link to your company's page so I can take a look.

    2. Re:This is so depressing. by DidgetMaster · · Score: 1

      www.Didgets.io is the company web page (first cut). Latest demo video (4 min) is at https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    3. Re:This is so depressing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You obviously need to wear shorter skirts when soliciting for venture capital.

    4. Re:This is so depressing. by liquid_schwartz · · Score: 1

      Foolish startups that have people throwing millions (or billions) of dollars at them while other good startups can't get the funding they need. I have a startup that has built a new kind of data management system. It is twice as fast as the big database management systems and does things thousands of times faster than file systems. It is the kind of thing that can radically change how data is managed on a global scale; yet I can't seem to attract even a few $100K from investors even though I have a working system with a few customers already. It's all 'who you know' instead of 'what you know'.

      Perhaps it's because people are addicted to the phrase order of magnitude. 2x just isn't enough. If you had 10x then you'd be in. Citation: https://www.forbes.com/sites/g...

    5. Re:This is so depressing. by DidgetMaster · · Score: 2

      It definitely does some things 10x better/faster than existing systems (I guess I should have lead with that), but for a well established market like RDBMS where products like Postgres or SQL Server have been around for decades; I thought 2x in the general case was a pretty high bar to clear.

    6. Re:This is so depressing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Foolish startups that have people throwing millions (or billions) of dollars at them while other good startups can't get the funding they need. I have a startup that has built a new kind of data management system. It is twice as fast as the big database management systems and does things thousands of times faster than file systems. It is the kind of thing that can radically change how data is managed on a global scale; yet I can't seem to attract even a few $100K from investors even though I have a working system with a few customers already. It's all 'who you know' instead of 'what you know'.

      Bullshit, you just don't know what's on the market if you think that. Measure your system against the speed of something like Amazon Kensis's SQL interface aka SQLStream Blaze. Hint, Spark isn't considered fast, systems like Blaze or big datawarehouses move at 10x the speed Spark does. You just don't know the market into which you are selling and investors can see that. That's why you can't raise money. Until you can process 16MB/s/core (ie 1m events/core) be quiet.

    7. Re:This is so depressing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It definitely does some things 10x better/faster than existing systems (I guess I should have lead with that), but for a well established market like RDBMS where products like Postgres or SQL Server have been around for decades; I thought 2x in the general case was a pretty high bar to clear.

      And that's your problem. You don't even know who your competitors are. Oracle, Terradata, Blaze, any real datawarehouse, Redshift, etc...

    8. Re:This is so depressing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess that must be why no one buys or uses stuff like Oracle, Postgres, SQL Server, Sqlite, MySQL, etc. anymore (rolls eyes).

    9. Re:This is so depressing. by DidgetMaster · · Score: 1

      Rrrriiiiiiiight. After all, if your data set is not big and complicated enough to require a cluster of servers in the cloud and a dozen 'data scientists' from MIT to set up and process; then it can't be worth worrying about. There is simply no market for a product that will take a moderately sized table (e.g. 10 million rows, 50 columns) and let someone without a ton of database expertise do some simple analytics on it, right?

    10. Re:This is so depressing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can't get interest because you don't look professional. Your website has no content of value on it and is riddled with spelling and grammatical errors.

      And with regards to your video, I didn't even bother watching all of it because I didn't see anything impressive - I just saw a crappy Windows app that was trying to replicate Apple's Spotlight & NSPredicate+CoreData, which sit on top of SQLite.

    11. Re:This is so depressing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Time to learn how to lie and bullshit, its the only way to thrive among liars and bullshitters? Then you can make other naive fools depressed and yourself happy, its the cycle of life.

      "Learn about the enviroment you live in"

    12. Re:This is so depressing. by virtualXTC · · Score: 1
      LOL with Theranos in the ring one couldn't even secure academic funding.

      I was working directly in the medical diagnostics space and Theranos (and Calico) made it impossible to get grant funding for electrochemical bioassays for newly discovered targets despite the path to development being extremely straight forward and unlikely to fail (even from our own institution who had money allocated for this but never dolled it out), let alone get a nibble of interest from an outside investor. It's sad, because by now there'd be an at-home test for cancer recurrence if it wasn't for the inflated press that came with these guys getting their $.

    13. Re:This is so depressing. by DidgetMaster · · Score: 1

      So unless a company has already received enough funding to have all the bells and whistles implemented and a professional website that caters to your every whim; then you can't be bothered for longer than 30 seconds to figure out if it truly does something novel or not? Thank you for proving my point.

    14. Re:This is so depressing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think I see why your product isn't being well received. If it isn't obvious to you after this thread, then it will never be. :(

  7. ONYXRUBY DO YOU KNOW NOTHING OR WHAT? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramesh_Balwani - "onyxruby" what's your excuse for your blathering illiteracy?

    1. Re:ONYXRUBY DO YOU KNOW NOTHING OR WHAT? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He knows how to use capital letters correctly. But I'm sure that you believe that grammar is a tool of the patriarchy.

  8. Old men fall for pitches by younger females. by couchslug · · Score: 1

    Former SecDef Mattis was also taken in by Theranos.

    If it's not YOUR PERSONAL specialty and you don't know as much or more about the subject than the people trying to sell you, leave it the fuck alone.

    --
    "This post is an artistic work of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact."
    1. Re:Old men fall for pitches by younger females. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have no idea what you're talking about. Theranos' TECHNOLOGY was the fraud, Holmes was just the latest CEO tripped up trying to make it legit. People invested because of promises of instant medical testing, which would be a Billions-Trillions boon if it worked. The problem was they didn't get it to work, tried to fake it until they made it, cut corners, lied, and like anyone deeply invested in a project that is failing regardless of gender, they tried to make it work anyway.

      Did the Goldman Sachs tainted assets have shit to do with gender? No? Why not? You imply this fraud does based on NOTHING, why not that too?

    2. Re: Old men fall for pitches by younger females. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Buying a $100k table and paying $1M in rent is not a responsible thing to do when you're still just trying to build a working product, it shortened their runway. Lying to their investors and to their customers was also not a responsible thing to do and that ended their runway.

    3. Re: Old men fall for pitches by younger females. by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Lying to investors and customers lengthened their runway. Not actually having a product is what ended it.

      --
      "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
  9. Stopped reading at WASP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I stopped reading the article the moment they called her a WASP. As soon as they break out the racist terms, I know they are not going to unbiased.
    Why is it ok to call a white person from an upper middle class background a WASP, but it's not ok to call a black person the nword or a person of jewish descent a Jew. Seriously WTF does her race or upbringing have to do with any of this?

    1. Re: Stopped reading at WASP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I missed that memo. When was it declared wrong to call a black person 'black' or a Jewish person a 'jew'? Or are you just making shit up?

      Is she not a white anglo-saxon protestant?

    2. Re: Stopped reading at WASP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Her race isn't relevant. But hack journalists drag race into everything because they don't know what else to write about.

    3. Re: Stopped reading at WASP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Nazi cries about race and journalism at the same time, finds solace at the bottom of society."

    4. Re:Stopped reading at WASP by Cajun+Hell · · Score: 1

      it's not ok to call .. a person of jewish descent a Jew.

      WTF? I know it was ok to do that in 2018. Who changed the rules and why wasn't anyone notifed?

      --
      "Believe me!" -- Donald Trump
    5. Re: Stopped reading at WASP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL. Spot on.

    6. Re: Stopped reading at WASP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is he not a N*****? Is she not a Kike? C'mon man, be honest at least. You know some terms are not necessary.
      Ironically, the filter kicked on the N word, but not kike.

    7. Re:Stopped reading at WASP by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1
      .

      WASP means old-money. I mean, literally it doesn't. But it's used to connote a very specific type of person. If you didn't grow up with a trust fund or around people who did, you're not a WASP, regardless of your religion, ethnicity or ancestry.

      --
      Your ad here. Ask me how!
    8. Re:Stopped reading at WASP by trytoguess · · Score: 1

      What exactly is racist about calling someone a White Anglo-Saxon Protestant?

    9. Re:Stopped reading at WASP by Kyr+Arvin · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure why it would be brought up, but WASP is hardly a pejorative.
      It's too much of a colloquial to be used in serious journalism, however.

    10. Re:Stopped reading at WASP by Kyr+Arvin · · Score: 2

      it's not ok to call .. a person of jewish descent a Jew.

      WTF? I know it was ok to do that in 2018. Who changed the rules and why wasn't anyone notifed?

      I've got the feeling there's more to the grandparent poster's story. Because saying "Steve is Jewish" is fine and always has been fine.
      But shouting "Give me my money back, you fucking JEW!" is not fine. If you call them out they act like they're the victim, making like you're not allowed to refer to a Jewish person as a Jew anymore.

    11. Re:Stopped reading at WASP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It was around 2016 when you could be labelled a terrorist by your tone and people started attacking fundamental rights as Free Speech. You didn't get the memo because this shit is subtle and everyone's having a generally hard to time coming to terms with the change.

    12. Re:Stopped reading at WASP by blind+biker · · Score: 1

      or a person of jewish descent a Jew.

      Huh? Jews never had any problem being called Jews. Not one of them. Not even israeli Haredim.

      --
      "The agriculture ministry is not in charge of Gundam" - Japanese ministry official.
    13. Re:Stopped reading at WASP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      WASP has been a common term for White Anglo-Saxon Protestant forever. Jeez. Get over yourself. As another commenter said, calling someone black who is black, or Hispanic is Hispanic isn't racist. The fact that she is an attractive WASP female is pertinent to the story. Comments like yours just make me feel so damn tired.

    14. Re:Stopped reading at WASP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As a former serious journalist, no it isn't.

    15. Re:Stopped reading at WASP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's too much of a colloquial to be used in serious journalism, however.

      What? There are no rules that serious journalism cannot use colloquial terms. Besides, the term WASP has been around for decades and is hardly some slang term.

    16. Re:Stopped reading at WASP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The left (journalists)

      ONLY see race and gender. ONLY.

      Because they're all racist bigots.

    17. Re:Stopped reading at WASP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I FOUND THE RUSSIAN BOT

  10. Elizabeth Holmes should be in prison by WCMI92 · · Score: 5, Informative

    She is an instrument of fraud. And she risked people's lives with piss poor testing.

    --
    Corporatism != Free Market
    1. Re:Elizabeth Holmes should be in prison by Nidi62 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      People's lives were not actually at risk as a result of testing their product, that's false.

      Receiving false or inaccurate results from a blood test could lead to people not getting necessary treatment or undergoing unnecessary treatment. If no one was physically harmed she was certainly paving the way to make it possible.

      --
      The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for it to be pitted against a slightly greater evil
    2. Re:Elizabeth Holmes should be in prison by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This product was never used as a stand-alone single blood test to make critical medical decisions, it was being EVALUATED for that feasibility. Huge difference.

      I agree if it replaced standard blood tests that would have been a major problem. Saying that happened already is the stretch of facts.

    3. Re:Elizabeth Holmes should be in prison by DickBreath · · Score: 1

      > she risked people's lives with piss poor testing.

      I think it was piss rich testing. The samples were contaminated. Or the word rich could refer to ridiculous extravagance.

      --

      I'll see your senator, and I'll raise you two judges.
    4. Re:Elizabeth Holmes should be in prison by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Republican INCEL threatened yet confused by female charms finds solidarity among crybaby inbred retards who whine about women all day online, as if it's their job. Fox News at 11.

    5. Re:Elizabeth Holmes should be in prison by anaplastic · · Score: 1

      Elizabeth Holmes knew nothing of how laboratory medicine works and how to bring up a lab assay. Worse, she didn't come from a medical background, and probably thought she could get by with, I don't know -- making nice to her board of directors? Bravado? She's the best example of the Kruger-Dunning Effect I've ever seen.

    6. Re:Elizabeth Holmes should be in prison by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      CEO != CTO. Learn the difference. CEO is a fundraiser. Expecting her to be the brains behind the technology belies ignorance of how corporations work on YOUR part.

    7. Re:Elizabeth Holmes should be in prison by Nidi62 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      CEO != CTO. Learn the difference. CEO is a fundraiser. Expecting her to be the brains behind the technology belies ignorance of how corporations work on YOUR part.

      One would hope the founder of a medical technology company would have a fundamental understanding of the technology and science behind their primary product, especially if they were touting it as a revolutionary breakthrough.

      --
      The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for it to be pitted against a slightly greater evil
    8. Re:Elizabeth Holmes should be in prison by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It would have been a real breakthrough if it worked. It does work on some level, but not as advertised. She does understand how it works. She's not the reason it doesn't work. She's the reason it got so big without working.

      Because she did her job as CEO fundraiser pretty well, if you separate the fact that she was selling snake oil. She was successful in selling it. She was unscrupulous in her methods which caught up to her.

      I don't see how that's a rare problem in CEO's, male or female, or rare in the pharmaceutical/med supply field generally.

    9. Re:Elizabeth Holmes should be in prison by Nidi62 · · Score: 1

      It would have been a real breakthrough if it worked. It does work on some level, but not as advertised. She does understand how it works. She's not the reason it doesn't work. She's the reason it got so big without working.

      It didn't work. There was no way they could do the amount of tests they claimed or intended with the amount of blood provided per sample.

      --
      The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for it to be pitted against a slightly greater evil
    10. Re:Elizabeth Holmes should be in prison by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh, I'm not saying they didn't commit fraud. They lied and tried to make it work as advertised in the meantime, and were unsuccessful in fixing it. The product did function on some level however below advertised promises.

      They were able to sell it to investors and tried to make it viable. But the fact that they failed doesn't actually discredit the underlying technological paradigm of nano-samples that can be "near instantly" analyzed. That's still possible.

      No doubt a company in the next 10 years will accomplish that, and there will be a lot of scrutiny along their path to that viable product because of Theranos.

    11. Re: Elizabeth Holmes should be in prison by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Citation needed. I thought Walgreens used this exclusively?

    12. Re: Elizabeth Holmes should be in prison by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. They had ~40 Walgreens testing centers total, out of x,xxx,xxx Walgreens pharmacies. They were evaluating the product and there is definitely liability there.

      Regardless of what WG offered or how re: theranos, it was not medically sound (legally) to rely on those for medical decisions without a doctor, as the fine print stated.

      That's why they're only paying $30 million, instead of 3 Billion.

      "Theranos is telling its investors that the company finally reached an agreement to settle a lawsuit by Walgreens Boots Alliance, people familiar with the matter have told The Wall Street Journal. The suit argued that the struggling laboratory start-up had breached the companies' contract.

      The Journal reported Wednesday morning that the feud between drugstore chain Walgreens and health tech company Theranos is nearing an end.

      Walgreens had, at one point, hosted about 40 Theranos blood-testing centers.

      In the suit, Walgreens was seeking to recover the $140 million that the retailer says it put into its partnership with Theranos, including a $40 million convertible-debt note and a separate payment as part of an effort to grow that relationship, the Journal said.

      The tentative agreement, as reported by the Journal Wednesday, calls for Theranos to pay Walgreens less than $30 million, people familiar with the matter told the publication. The pact hadn't been completed as of late Tuesday and terms could change, the people also said."

    13. Re:Elizabeth Holmes should be in prison by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      There was a theory, very popular among MBAs for a while, that a good manager could just manage without knowing anything about what the managees were doing. I think that led to a whole raft of problems, myself.

      --
      "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
    14. Re: Elizabeth Holmes should be in prison by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is this no longer the popular thought? It seems to me that most director types seem to think that if everything is great now, throwing an MBA in the mix can only make things better.

      Not cranking out code fast enough? Fuck hiring more developers, just hire an MBA! He'll figure out how to get productivity up.

      Tired of paying those pesky expensive sysadmins to run your in-house infrastructure? Hire an MBA! She'll figure out how to move everything to the cloud or offshore and then we won't need any sysadmins.... Won't we?

    15. Re:Elizabeth Holmes should be in prison by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, a good manager CAN manage people without having a detailed understanding of their jobs. I've had good managers myself who've done that - not many, but some.

      The problem is that "being a good manager" is easy to bullshit and hard to measure.

      So yes, it's very popular among MBAs.

    16. Re:Elizabeth Holmes should be in prison by jma05 · · Score: 1

      > The product did function on some level however below advertised promises.

      Pardon my ignorance, I did not read anywhere that the product worked at ANY level.
      Please tell me a single innovation that Theranos produced that could be scientifically verified.
      I was under the impression that it was all hush-hush, smoke and mirrors.

      > They were able to sell it to investors

      Investors are not scientists. Did they manage to convince scientists that they had ANY breakthrough, even one.. lets completely ignore profitability of this supposed breakthrough and viability. What exactly did Elizabeth Holmes discover or invent?

      All I saw was this argument: These investors were rich and must therefore know what they were doing. They must have checked the science behind it.

  11. "Chilling" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    What is chilling about this? Silicon valley culture is horse shit, everyone knows that by now. None of this surprises me.

    1. Re:"Chilling" by DickBreath · · Score: 2

      That is not entirely correct. Some of Silicon Valley culture is made up of bovine digestive product, and some smaller percentages are from other species. The exact formulation is a closely held secret. Kept in a bank in Atlanta GA next to the coke formula.

      --

      I'll see your senator, and I'll raise you two judges.
    2. Re:"Chilling" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try scrolling down in the article next time, instead of looking for all the answers in the first paragraph.

      You missed the part where her pack of wolf-dogs were chasing employees across the parking lot last winter. They killed three people in one month, and two of the bodies weren't even recovered until the wolf-dogs "deposited" them in the board room. Another person was found dead behind the building, their body mysteriously drained of all morale. Holmes thought the business manufacturerd thermoses, and it turned out Holmes was pouring customers' samples into a thermos she kept on her desk which she would occasionally drink from, to gain peoples' "life essence." (And everybody who worked there developed a mysterious "stain" on their resume, looking suspiciously like a ring left from bottom of a wet thermos.) She wore a turtle-neck only to hide her gills. She fed a former lover into a wood chipper, or "chirpy" as she liked to call it. One of her body guards looked like Lurch and the other looked like John Wayne Gacy. She lived in a haunted mansion (site of an infamous 1929 family massacre) and slept in--no, not a coffin, just RTFA--forget it, I won't tell you what she slept in. Jesus Christ, just RTFA!

  12. "peeing into the mix" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "peeing into the mix" - peeing into the mix of WHAT? such a weirdly worded phrase - sounds like a bootleg GG Alli recording...

    1. Re:"peeing into the mix" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah I read that and I was glad they don't make margaritas or something. Not that most Jimmy Buffet fans would know the difference, mind you...

    2. Re:"peeing into the mix" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hint: Don't eat the cakes!

    3. Re:"peeing into the mix" by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

      "peeing into the mix" - peeing into the mix of WHAT? such a weirdly worded phrase - sounds like a bootleg GG Alli recording...

      I imagine there's a comma missing. This would be better:

      Elizabeth Holmes brought a puppy, who she insisted was a wolf to others, with a penchant for peeing, into the mix, ...

      --
      It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
  13. Oh come on... by denzacar · · Score: 1

    Betsy "Let's arm teachers to protect schools from grizzly bears" DeVos also coughed up $100 mill for Balto to poop on.

    It's the black turtleneck.
    Steve Jobs discovered that people with more money than sense get easily hypnotized by black turtlenecks.

    --
    Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens
    1. Re: Oh come on... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People who oppose teachers being able to defend themselves are breathtakingly retarded.

      You probably think that you are intelligent, interesting, wise, and thoughtful.

      You are not. You're literally a complete fucking imbecile.

    2. Re: Oh come on... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have you ever thought about lubing up one of your metal penis extensions barrels and working it up inside your ass during one of your Soldier of Fortune masturbation sessions ?

      I think you'd like it.

  14. Psycopath by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    This cunt is a psycopath

    1. Re:Psycopath by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Note to VC's - never stick your dime in crazy.

    2. Re:Psycopath by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      So how do you tell the difference between visionary and crazy? VCs will often invest in some crazy, because it doesn't take all that many visionaries in the pool to more than make up for the crazies.

      --
      "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
    3. Re:Psycopath by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Visionary IS crazy. A visionary sees things that aren't really there. Venture capitalists are essentially lost in the desert and running out of water, and when they see some heat addled brain wander by they say "which way should we walk?" 9 times out of 10 the crazy guy points to a bad direction to go, but that one time it just happens by chance to be correct. The VCs walk out of the desert, just barely, and proclaim the peyote imbibing loon a visionary.

      The only difference between Theranos and the typical dot-com startup was the degree of insanity.

  15. College Dropout by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    One thing I've learnt with some college dropouts is that they quit because they generally take shortcuts for most things in life. My ex team-lead was the same thing, crazy shortcuts/hacks he would do in his code because he couldn't be bothered to take the time to finish it properly.

    1. Re:College Dropout by Headw1nd · · Score: 1

      This is an interesting observation.

    2. Re:College Dropout by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      [Cough]Bill Gates. [Cough]Windows.

    3. Re:College Dropout by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Interesting indeed; my ex-wife took shortcuts to good credit by remarrying. Exhibit B, your Honor.

    4. Re:College Dropout by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or MAYBE some of them are not prepared to be constrained by traditional thinking or approaches and prefer the JFDI approach. I can't comment about the people you've come across but I'm a college dropout myself. I didn't see the point in learning for the sake of learning. There was about 60% of the course I was doing that was, and has been, utterly irrelevant to anything I've ever done in my life or likely ever will (being in my late 40's now). I'd rather not easte 2 years of my life on learning stuff which has been a waste of time. I would suggest MOST people who do university degrees and look back on them 30 years later would feel similarly.

      I'm not knocking college/university life for those who get something out of it at all. But to make broad sweeping statements based on your tiny anecdotal sample size is just silly.

      I've also changed myself in the past 10 years or so. I used to think as you did (do everything "properly" and to standard) but you know what I'm realising? It doesn't matter. It REALLY doesn't matter. Documenting systems or code is done all the time. But the reality is 99% of it is never ever read again. I've seen system procedures which describe the whole system is great detail - exactly what you'd need to rebuild the system. In 30 years of being in the IT business as an architect, implementer, manager and just about every job in between they are *NEVER* read. People don't have the time, the company don't give you the time to read them, you only ever go to them for the same information which is spread over 3 pages in a 100 page manual. The 100 page manual that took 10's if not 100's of hours to write, review, correct, issue and only 3 pages are ever really useful. So why write it at all?

    5. Re: College Dropout by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's only in the US, because your undergraduate degrees are bullshit and padded out with too much irrelevant content.

      Most other countries (Uk, NZ, AUS etc) can offer three year bachelor degrees with more content in them than US four year degrees.

      Americans catch up by the PhD level, but even their Masters degrees are mostly coursework.

      Weird.

  16. Re: Let this be a cautionary tale by DickBreath · · Score: 3, Funny

    That's V Pee!

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  17. Mansion? by Solandri · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Theranos was also still paying for her mansion in Los Altos,

    The other stuff is the normal corporate stupidity of giving executives too many privileges. But this is fraud. It could be her mansion, and she was paying for it from her personal funds. Or it could be Theranos' mansion, and she was paying the company rent to live in it. But having the company pay for "her" house is fraud (it's not a legitimate business expense, so she's essentially stealing money from the shareholders), and probably tax evasion (company gets to write it off as a tax-free expense, she doesn't have to pay income taxes on the benefit received).

    1. Re:Mansion? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The truth hurts (you), doesn't it?

      Fraud is fraud no matter the gender.

    2. Re:Mansion? by PPH · · Score: 1

      I worked with a guy who our company was sending to visit a remote site. Company policy was to buy economy class airline tickets for employees' business travel. His response: "Get me a first class ticket or I'm not going. Don't like it? Then fire me." He flew first class. And guess what. It was a legitimate business expense.

      When you deal with people at executive levels, they often have personal services contracts. And if part of that contract says you scoop up my dog's shit or you pick all the brown M&Ms out of the bowl, then you do it. As far as the tax evasion part: As long as the pop-scooping and M&M sorting is reported as income and that exec pays taxes on it, there is no evasion.

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    3. Re:Mansion? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, that was my point. Theranos had both male and female leadership that committed fraud. Focusing on her gender = GOP Incel focus, not fraud focus.

      So you're agreeing with me but not realizing it.

    4. Re:Mansion? by jeff4747 · · Score: 1

      It's just another form of compensation. If a company car is legal, so's this.

      And as an added benefit, the company probably turned a profit due to appreciation.

    5. Re:Mansion? by ISoldat53 · · Score: 1

      Call it the Executive Briefing Center and have a few President stay there and the IRS never takes a second look.

    6. Re:Mansion? by Shikaku · · Score: 1

      The AC parent only brought up gender to set up a strawman. Which means this is just terrible syntax and gerrymandering.

  18. Re:Clearly a right-wing plot to discredit feminism by DickBreath · · Score: 3, Funny

    > Misogynistic male pigs can't stand to see women succeed, so they make up lies about them.

    No need to lie when the truth is so bad.

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  19. Sounds like an interesting place to work. by mark_reh · · Score: 1

    Really.

    1. Re:Sounds like an interesting place to work. by hraponssi · · Score: 1

      Well at least one would have some real stories to tell. About crazy spending, peeing dogs, nice things, boss stereotypes, scams, gullible people, etc. Don't know what it was like for the common worker there. Maybe they still had Bob in the basement cubicle grunting about Jenkins to everyone who happens to come too close. But sounds interesting.

  20. Why is that criminal still free? by gweihir · · Score: 1

    Hyped wunderkind, complete fraud, and now she gets to walk away? That is not right.

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    1. Re:Why is that criminal still free? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wait till the movie comes out, featuring someone in need of a comeback role.

    2. Re:Why is that criminal still free? by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      If it was Jim Carey in drag playing Holmes I'd go watch it.

    3. Re:Why is that criminal still free? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      See this is what geniuses like you don't get it and you think you are so smart. Society is actually ruled by idiots but they found out they can :

      1. manipulate and fool everyone else into submissive state
      2. they connect and they over each others asses and problem solved. Nobody will question them cause nobody simply cares - see how this works?
      2. use divide and conquer on everyone else so they won't organize and remove your ass

      How do you solve this? Open your eyes and stop being naive.

    4. Re:Why is that criminal still free? by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Learn to read. I do quite well understand how this works. I am just complaining about the situation.

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    5. Re:Why is that criminal still free? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just answering "Why is that criminal still free?" question.

      Complaining to idiots or their followers will only cause them to say 'you are crazy' and attempt to silence you. Then you will have to become the follower and nothing changes. Only way is to get followers on your side, but 'cool sounding' 'ambitious' 'argument' will always beat reasonable argument in today's society and they win. Everyone gets to pay the price after that.

      Yes/No?

    6. Re:Why is that criminal still free? by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Yes, indeed. That is right on the mark.

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    7. Re:Why is that criminal still free? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hate to say it but with some of her biggest victims being large republican donors such as Rupert Murdoch ($1 Billion invested, maybe a bit more), and Betsy DeVos ($140 Million) there might be a certain amount of lets just say, willingness for the wheels of justice to turn slowly.

  21. In an alternate universe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oddly enough this same article appeared in an alternate universe, but in the Wall Street Journal instead of Vanity Fair, and where Theranos somehow magically succeeded.

    It's a glowing article showing the odd eccentricities of this brilliant young CEO. The "Wof" is just a funny eccentricity, and she's of course joking about it but plays it like she isn't. Potty training isn't mentioned. Instead of downgrading to First Class, the company upgrades her to personally buying a private Jet.

    The point being, the same crazy assholes that get painted as the criminals they are when they fail... get painted as incredible geniuses when they succeed. If you don't believe me, see Steve Jobs or Larry Ellison.

  22. What's the problem with this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Obviously, she was just putting together a resume for an eventual cabinet post.

  23. Re:Let this be a cautionary tale by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Phebe Novakovic? Cathy Engelbert? Marillyn Hewson?

    Who? Never heard of any of these people...

  24. Their anus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    n/t

  25. When jackasses become 'successful' by Dega704 · · Score: 1

    She's increasingly looking like some kind of failed Steve Jobs clone. Some of his charm and bravado, all of his asshole douchebaggery, and none of his vision or attention to detail. She got so wrapped up in her delusions that she fooled herself into ignoring the trainwreck she created and the lives she ruined in the process. She's a walking catastrophe and should be locked up before she can turn anything else to sh*t.

  26. She's a member of the ruling class by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    I forgot who but she's somebody's God daughter or something. As long as we continue to pretend our ruling class doesn't exist they're untouchable.

    Warren Buffet nailed it. (apologies for the WaPo link, open it in incognito/private mode).

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    1. Re:She's a member of the ruling class by Nidi62 · · Score: 5, Informative

      I forgot who but she's somebody's God daughter or something. As long as we continue to pretend our ruling class doesn't exist they're untouchable. Warren Buffet nailed it. (apologies for the WaPo link, open it in incognito/private mode).

      Her father was a VP at Enron(!) then worked at government agencies and her mother was a Congressional staffer. Explains why almost all of her board members were former government officials (none of the board members had experience with biomedical technology-how that didn't raise red flags with investors I don't know; they were probably too busy seeing green)

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    2. Re:She's a member of the ruling class by Kyr+Arvin · · Score: 1

      Her father was a VP at Enron(!)

      Sounds like the fraud apple doesn't fall too far from the tree. She learned from "The smartest guys in the room."

    3. Re: She's a member of the ruling class by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      She was also blowing a Paki millionaire who made his fortune by cashing out of a company which shortly went bankrupt. I'm thinking his money and influence may have had something to do with it, especially since he ended up running Theranos.

    4. Re:She's a member of the ruling class by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      She didn't have proper connections so she got burned. Remember kids, if you cheat and lie, always create a safety network of 'friends' first - then you will be invincible. Friends will take care of any problems resulting from your lie - but it will cost you and obviously naive suckers will pay the biggest price, buy who cares right?

      go go 'democracy'

  27. '1701' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "But there were few places she had wasted so much money as the design and monthly cost of the company's main headquarters, which employees simply referred to as "1701," for its street address along Page Mill Road in Palo Alto."

    HOLMS: Computer. This is founder and CEO Elizabeth Holmes, requesting security access. Computer. Destruct Sequence One, code one, one-A.
    Would that be NCC

    PRES: Computer. This is Pres. and COO, . Destruct sequence two, code one one-A, two-B.

    BOARD: Computer. This is the Board Of Directors. Destruct sequence three, code one-B, two-B, three.

    COMPUTER VOICE: Destruct sequence completed and engaged. Awaiting final code for one-minute countdown.

    HOLMS: Code zero, zero, zero, ...destruct zero.

    COMPUTER VOICE: Destruct Sequence is activated.

    (-NOT Start Trek The search for Spock)

    https://www.quora.com/How-many-times-has-the-Enterprise-been-destroyed-in-Star-Trek

  28. STOP GIVING HER ATTENTION by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    She is a fraud and should be left to history as the reject she is.

  29. sheesh. get an ADE 651. by Thud457 · · Score: 0

    We've known from since the time of Royal Rife that to build real Star Trek tricorders, you need to resonantly stimulate and sense the characteristic frequency of the testing material. This mucking around with nano blood samples is still messy biology. Also once you can determine the resonant frequency, it's a simple matter to destructively overdrive pathogens to blast them to bits. This has been settled super-science since the late 1920's.

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  30. Honestly... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This would make for a very good and interesting book, provided, of course, that she's not the author (and if she were, all proceeds should go to those who were scammed by her). The book could start with a bit her background, how she got the idea for Theranos, raised funding, got it going, through its deminse up until after the trial ended. Ideally going into how she got away with it. A prologue could talk about how she rubs elbows with high profile politicians to raise money for another endeavour (that's what I recall, anyway, it's been a while since I followed this).

    I'm particularly curious as to when she turned to the dark side. Did she always have a scheming mind that has displayed itself from infancy? Did the money and fame get to her head and she decided to "fake it till you make it"? Was there a mastermind behind all this who controlled her?

    Also, I'm really wondering what the hell her parents and family think about this....

  31. Re: Right-wing faggots will always fear women, rea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Citation needed.

  32. Re:Stopped crying, cut my balls off, joined GOP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Have you considered getting a username, perhaps "faggot"? it appears in every AC comment you make.

  33. Crybaby INCELs will always be crybaby INCELs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Denoting she was a woman CEO was all over the place, so what? What difference does it make if a woman CEO or male CEO commits fraud? You're just an INCEL crybaby threatened by women, that's all. Tissue?

    1. Re: Crybaby INCELs will always be crybaby INCELs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because nobody invests in a company because the ceo is a diverse white male?

      How fucking retarded are you?

  34. New venture coming up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I recently read a story about her and to my dismay she will start a new company soon. People have short memories and I'm sure there will be enough suckers to allow her to rise again.

  35. She should be POTUS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    She reminds me of Trumposka.

  36. or by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Poor Piss testing

    either/or I suppose

  37. Awesome Stanford U alumnus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Connections in all the right places, wolf pup saved from the wild peeing in our pool, where are the reality TV cameras? Mansion? The Kardashians are going to have to up their A- game.

  38. actress hopped up on coke... by js290 · · Score: 1

    "One day in late December 2017, Holmes showed up at the Newark building and held an all-hands meeting. She appeared excited beyond restraint. Brimming with enthusiasm..."

    Elizabeth Holmes, if that's even her real name, is not a real person. She's an actress put in place by the Theranos board to front this ponzi scheme of a company.

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  39. Her voice gives me the creeps by Rick+Zeman · · Score: 1

    Every time I saw her speak I'd look to see if she had a visible adam's apple. /me shivers

    1. Re:Her voice gives me the creeps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Keep getting concentrated of appearances and please don't focus on what someone actually does. Thanks.

  40. Old Yeller by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Old Yeller the both of 'em

  41. Re: Clearly a right-wing plot to discredit feminis by c6gunner · · Score: 1

    There was no CEO before her; she founded the company. What retard nodded this shit up?

  42. There's a term "cash cow"... by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

    Usually this refers to a successful product. Apparently at Theranos it applied to the CEO herself.

  43. Re: Let this be a cautionary tale by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Cant you take a joke you liberal snowflake.

  44. Re: Let this be a cautionary tale by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lite

  45. Re: Right-wing faggots will always fear women, rea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Amazon, Google, Microsoft, Twitter, Apple, Samsung, Huawei, HP, IBM, Intel, Cisco, Xerox, etc, etc.

    White and Asian men. Literally every single one. Created, built, invented. Empires.

    Not a single one created by women, black people, trans queer folk, or any of your other misfit retard squad.

    You are welcome.

  46. Re: Right-wing faggots will always fear women, rea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, what did you make, pathetic little man? Which one is your empire? What are your achievements that make you proud, or at least rich?

    Yeah, nothing. I thought so.

  47. No problem, but the moral of her story is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that what media maketh, media taketh. I remember when Theranos was hot even here, on, and, like for other vaporware manufacturers, questioning them brought downmods.

    Theranos would not have happened at all if the "tech media" circus wasn't a sensationalist, hype-it-up-all-you-can, eyeball-counts-driven fakery written by incompetent dimwits whose job is only to produce hyperbolic "content" with bombastic headlines.

  48. Re:Stopped crying, cut my balls off, joined GOP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you mad, WASP boy?

  49. stupid sub by mapkinase · · Score: 1

    > and screens that would come out of the ceiling

    This phrase betrays the commie motivation behind this vitriolic attack.

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  50. Space cadet is out there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And managed to teleport millions with her; leaves them the dog in wolf's clothing

  51. Re:Let this be a cautionary tale by Joce640k · · Score: 1

    I offered them $100 for that table but they turned me down.

    Their loss.

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  52. Re: Let this be a cautionary tale by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Jokes are for chumps. Petty humor is for the unsophisticated and uncouth. You don't have much laughing left, as we automate the low-end jobs that you depend on, condemning your whole class of deplorables to extinction. Humanity will be better off without the intellectually inferior.

  53. Re: Let this be a cautionary tale by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Literally made up names. Who are they?

  54. Re: Let this be a cautionary tale by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Remember Golgafrincham from Hichicker guide to the galaxy.

  55. Re: Let this be a cautionary tale by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Only extremists lack a sense of humor, and are unable to laugh at themselves.

    Is your name Ahmed or Muhammad, by chance?

  56. Re: Right-wing faggots will always fear women, re by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Other than a $24 million dollar start up that I sold, then retired at 36?

    Nothing I guess.

  57. Re: Let this be a cautionary tale by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What about Betty Sue Rottencrotch?

  58. A belief in totems by shm · · Score: 1

    It seems she might actually believe in the efficacy of totems.

    Or maybe it's cargo cult behaviour.

    The black turtle neck from Jobs? "Maybe if I wear this, I'll be as good as him."

    The dog. The various little foibles.

  59. just Gen-X by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Self-Respect Uber Alles mentality that's lead that and following generations to think confidence and competence are the same thing.

  60. Re: Let this be a cautionary tale by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Soros-funded Corporate Progressive nazi trolls sure do resemble the old school Nazis with whom Soros collaborated.