President Trump Wants US To Win 5G Through Real Competition (bbc.com)

hackingbear writes: In a tweet, President Trump said he wanted "5G, and even 6G, technology in the United States as soon as possible. I want the United States to win through competition, not by blocking out currently more advanced technologies. American companies must step up their efforts, or get left behind." While he did not specifically mention China's Huawei, many interpreted the comments as Mr Trump taking a softer stance on the firm. The U.S. has been pressuring allies to block out the Chinese telecom giant from their future 5G mobile networks, but the tactic meets considerable resistance. "Mr. President. I cannot agree with you more. Our company is always ready to help build the real 5G network in the U.S., through competition," Huawei President Ken Hu replied in a tweet, mocking Trump's frequent usages of the word "real." Huawei is the second biggest holder of 5G patents after Samsung and the top contributor to the 5G standard, and is setting its sight on 6G.

Comments

Fix it in software

[thegarbz]

I thought 5G was just a software update. This is just fake news because everyone is jealous that AT&T are the only people investing in making 5G a reality and were the first to do so.

Re:Fix it in software

[michelcolman]

Fuck everything, we're doing 7G.

does this one go to 11G?

[nadaou]

Only 6G? fuck it, let's do 7G

Real competition? Trump?

[gweihir]

Does he even understand what that word means?

Re:Real competition? Trump?

[Joce640k]

Nope, he thinks it means borrowing a whole lot of money to try and crush the competition then declaring bankruptcy and not paying the contractors what you owe when you finally figure out that it's not sustainable because you're not "competing", you're "subsidizing".

Leave other people to pay the bills and pick up the pieces.

Re: Real competition? Trump?

[Anonymous Coward]

It's not progressives who are at fault for the hypocrisy, corruption, and fraud of the blatantly selfish right-wing fools.

Re:Real competition? Trump?

[jellomizer]

Remember the adage of the broken clock. "Even a broken clock is right two times a day". I am by no means a Trump Supporter, I find this man to be to be the embodiment of evil, as his views and actions tend goes against everything that I have learned to be right and moral. However to stop myself from being angry and bitter all the time, I will have to ask myself what is my view on this particular issue, and how would I solve it, with the information I currently have at hand about it... And sometimes Trumps approach would match mine, So, I have to give him a point on that particular area.

Now that said, I agree We need strong Competion in the wireless speed race, so the standard isn't controlled by the Big boys in the Room such as American Telephone and Telegraph, there is a complication with Competition and Deploying Standards, which they are often trade-offs in each design. Method 1 may have greater range but slower speed, while method 2 has a Faster Speed but less of a range, They are methods that are in the middle. Some may have smaller range and slower speed, but is more easier managed, and components for receivers are cheaper. Some methods way work better in Rural areas with less volume, while others may work better in a crowded area. With True Competition, we are not going to have 5G, but a dozen of 5G's all incompatible with each other.
Often when standards are applied, they are rarely the best option out there, but the most balanced good enough out there.
 

Re: Real competition? Trump?

[gweihir]

I find it fascinating that you Trump-fanatics never have any good arguments _for_ your choices, only the usual, invalid "the others are worse".

That's rich.

[SeaFox]

As though Trump would know anything about competition.

He only won his "competition" with Russians stepping up their social engineering techniques on a gullible public, and the GOP blocking votes from being being counted in congressional races.

Re:That's rich.

[Anonymous Coward]

That's competition!

Just like marks are "citizens", respect for the rule of law is "the unhinged, violent left", lining up to apply for asylum is "illegal rapists and murderers", Nazis is "good people", and tax cuts for the top one percent are "for the middle class".

That's GOP cant.

Re:That's rich.

[Ol Olsoc]

Again with the Hillary issues...you do realize the election was two years ago but you still seem intent on reliving it. Move on, come up to speed, cook with gas. "Sure my guy is a dolt, but that Hillary...whoa!!".

Hey - they are still pissed off about Franklin D Roosevelt. So my guess is they'll be able to to raise their blood pressure about ol' Hellery for another 50 years or so.

It's just what they do as opposed to solutions.

Re:That's rich.

[DNS-and-BIND]

The topic is the "blame the dirty foreigners" narrative, which is always bullshit. You can tell it's bullshit because people blame the foreigners for their own faults.

Re:China cant invent anything

[jellomizer]

One commonality I have found with Trump, and Chinese culture, is the need to "Win". I found the need to Win, to be inevitably counter productive. To Win at something you have a clear single objective, you work to get that objective better or faster then someone else, then you win. However what you do to get to that objective may sabotage other objectives you may want to peruse later on.
That kid who cheated to win the game. Is no longer invited to pay again.
A country who has wasted all their resources to become a more powerful economy, will struggle in the future, because there are no more resources to work off of.

While in college, they were Chinese national students, they were the test curve breakers, always getting A's on all the test, however in the practical assignments they really struggled, as they studied to pass the test, but not understand the material.
In Work, when we have a Chinese national new hire, there always seems to be some work involved to get them to work with the rest of the team, ask questions, don't be afraid to make mistakes, but learn from them.

The Chinese people are smart, creative and innovative. They need to recognize the flaws in their culture, to help them grow. As do Americans, as we have different traits that make us shoot ourselves in the foot. Often our Bully attitude, and often seat of the pants approaches to problems, which causes us to come up with stupid ideas, and keep going with them.