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President Trump Wants US To Win 5G Through Real Competition (bbc.com)
hackingbear writes: In a tweet, President Trump said he wanted "5G, and even 6G, technology in the United States as soon as possible. I want the United States to win through competition, not by blocking out currently more advanced technologies. American companies must step up their efforts, or get left behind." While he did not specifically mention China's Huawei, many interpreted the comments as Mr Trump taking a softer stance on the firm. The U.S. has been pressuring allies to block out the Chinese telecom giant from their future 5G mobile networks, but the tactic meets considerable resistance. "Mr. President. I cannot agree with you more. Our company is always ready to help build the real 5G network in the U.S., through competition," Huawei President Ken Hu replied in a tweet, mocking Trump's frequent usages of the word "real." Huawei is the second biggest holder of 5G patents after Samsung and the top contributor to the 5G standard, and is setting its sight on 6G.
I thought 5G was just a software update. This is just fake news because everyone is jealous that AT&T are the only people investing in making 5G a reality and were the first to do so.
Oh great, phonetards are getting high-speed conduits to share their retardation even faster than usual.
We need phone/desktop apartheid, segregate the phonetards from the enlightened desktop master race.
Only 6G? fuck it, let's do 7G
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I'm a peripheral visionary.
Does he even understand what that word means?
Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
As though Trump would know anything about competition.
He only won his "competition" with Russians stepping up their social engineering techniques on a gullible public, and the GOP blocking votes from being being counted in congressional races.
It was Chinese shill hackingbear did you expect any less?
A real competition where he picks who gets to play is not a real competition.
Laws are rules for the court, but merely a bottom bar to hit for life. Think beyond laws in your actions always.
You canâ(TM)t tell the useful idiots that theyâ(TM)re idiots if you need them. And she needed some of them.
She couldnâ(TM)t smile and nod, and let these people believe theyâ(TM)re important. She was a terrible candidate.
For now, you can use 802.11g. The 802 are extra.
"mocking Trump's frequent usages of the word "real."
Does anyone in their right mind believe the president of Huawei was somehow "mocking" president Trump's apparent overture to free trade? That has to be the stupidest most lying propagandist comment I have ever read.
If anything Huawei's president was insinuating that because Huawei holds the most 5G patents that it was in the best position to build "real" 5G networks. Not everything is about making Trump look bad.
These are serious geopolitical and world trade issues that the world's number 1 economy (China) and the US are trying to work out for mutual benefit.
Getting in a jab at president Trump, especially a false one that if misinterpreted could sour relations and eventually lead to war if the war hawks prevail in their insane quest to kill us all... is irresponsible.
American delusion. China used to be a purely copy-paste tech nation, but if you hadn't noticed, they've been producing more and more original tech over the past years.
And before that it was Japan, who shamelessly copied western goods and sold them cheaper. Until eventually they made better cameras and cars.
Before that it was the US, ignoring copyright and patents until they became leaders instead of followers.
China's caught up with us.
Meh ... getting there. A way to go yet. Taiwan and Korea are more caught up.
4 years ago we got on a contract with AT&T for 10mbps fiber at 3 locations.
They oversold the product and couldn't give us SIP Trunks for older POTS PBX's. Literally told the rep "sell me a phone system, give me a number", he didn't want to. Not that it wasn't time to change them out but hey. Found an ISP who could who snagged the business.
Doing the work to get us right with them before going to another vendor, I discovered our project manager was out in the phillipines, and they were sending CCNA certified contractors (really just kids) to do wiring jobs because union labor was just too expensive. I got 9, Cisco 10,000 series routers, $10k a pop, shipped to me because the order got re-entered several times. After we moved to a new ISP it took them a full year for the "asset recovey team" to give me a call and send labels. There's a reason nobody likes doing business with AT&T or any of the large carriers; they don't care because they don't have to.
Right now we're working against a telecom oligopoly that needs to be broken up; Huawei are a bunch of bastards just like any US corporation with the distinct difference being that US Corps know not to taunt ant government openly. Do that first.
Also, really great idea. If your company is caught shipping devices that have backdoors for your governement in them into the US for the purpose of engaging in espionage, not only do your products get banned from being imported into the US permanently, but your companies patents get invalided as well and the tech goes public. We need to learn not to engage in warfare via economics and that's the only way how, make the cost of doing that astronomically high.
I wonder what 6G and 7G are. X-Rays and Gamma rays so everyone can get cancer?
Per country, China is #1 in Co2 emissions. Almost twice the US.
Per capita, China is #3.
1.5 billion chinamen can't be wrong!
SO 6G==?????
Optical?
One commonality I have found with Trump, and Chinese culture, is the need to "Win". I found the need to Win, to be inevitably counter productive. To Win at something you have a clear single objective, you work to get that objective better or faster then someone else, then you win. However what you do to get to that objective may sabotage other objectives you may want to peruse later on.
That kid who cheated to win the game. Is no longer invited to pay again.
A country who has wasted all their resources to become a more powerful economy, will struggle in the future, because there are no more resources to work off of.
While in college, they were Chinese national students, they were the test curve breakers, always getting A's on all the test, however in the practical assignments they really struggled, as they studied to pass the test, but not understand the material.
In Work, when we have a Chinese national new hire, there always seems to be some work involved to get them to work with the rest of the team, ask questions, don't be afraid to make mistakes, but learn from them.
The Chinese people are smart, creative and innovative. They need to recognize the flaws in their culture, to help them grow. As do Americans, as we have different traits that make us shoot ourselves in the foot. Often our Bully attitude, and often seat of the pants approaches to problems, which causes us to come up with stupid ideas, and keep going with them.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
Or 100G for that matter? This guy really has no clue, clearly.
Do you have some citation for China's per capita CO2 emissions?
While your right about all those Chinese adding up to number 1 in total, the figures I find put the US about #12 with twice the per capita emissions of China. Places like Qatar, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia are top per capita producers.
Most of what I find is a bit old, such as Wiki, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... only going to 2011 though I don't think the US has dropped much since. This, https://knoema.com/atlas/China... claims 7.45 tonnes per capita for China while the latest for the US from Wiki, says about 16 tonnes per capita for the US
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_totalitarianism
Why not go to 7G or even 8G?
There's plenty positive integers left.
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Since some telecoms are slapping 5G on their 4G LTE networks this year they might as well complete the farce and slap on 6G tags next year!
Per capita countries like Qatar, Kuwait, UAE, SA kind of don't count, due to the nebulous and small population count. If 3/4 of the people there are not citizens but rather immigrants (read slave labor), the numbers might be a bit skewed.
By country, Union of Concerned Scientists puts China at #1. https://www.ucsusa.org/global-...
Leaving out the Araby, USA comes in #2 per capita for CO2, behind Australia, according to Wiki. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
So is T-mint on or off? Arguable more competitors better except the top two have extensive size advantages. As explain by others, likewise for standards. Then there is Huawei , from one perspective they help competition but given their state backing, is it in interests of democracies to cede so much power ? Multiple vendors are usually good for competition and spreading risk. Keep debating since important like democracies despite their flaws, the alternative so far worse.
It makes sense to deploy 5G in very densely populated areas. Big city centers etc. Much like it makes sense to deploy high quality 4G/LTE where there is sufficient customer base etc.